Forge of Empires II - AH RP [OOC/Open!]

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Not if the Hispanic fleets are smashed by the Alaskan-Scots forces in a war for Mexico's "independence", then it's a decent opportunity for La Plata to show up, but why they would wants lands in the Caribbean is kinda weird.

Oh; also, when considering Spain, remember their baby really did get smashed by the Mughals, and they paid a heavy indemnity to random their captured invasion force. Looking at the old IC, Spain threw almost all of their eastern fleet into the effort, and a large force from Spain itself.

Spain also appears to have had a civil war judging from Waz's last IC post in FoE1.

He gave Mexico independence (which is back with Spain, so that had to happen via a civil war in Mexico) and then couped the monarchy and installed a republic I believe. That's the more wounding thing for Spain at least imo.

[New Neros]

Oh! You're gonna be them

Yeah La Plata and Alsaka have agreements (that were made in the last RP) regarding spheres within the Americas. Not sure how relevant they are now that you kind of fell from grace, but yeah. Basically it was that you get the Southern Pacific and if you're gonna gun for Tasmania then go for it. Taking anything in the Caribbean is an absolute no. Besides, the Hispanic Navy would be too strong in the region for you to launch any successful campaign that you'd be able to consolidate any gains.

I somehow feel that you had La Plata fall from grace so that Alaska could be the unquestioned dominant power in the Americas...
Anyhow, La Plata is probably too weak to take anything from Spain before there's a major war.

He did, which is shit. La Plata would have been a major hemispheric rival had Buj not decided to gut it. That's why I'm Scandinavia now.

[Lunas Legion]

So, does anyone have a list of who is backing who in the Balkans?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Um excuse me La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire.

That was established long before in the last edition of FoE.

Pretty sure it was supposed to collapse while invading Nova Roma and San Martin died. Empires like that are hard to keep alive after its leader/founder is out of the question.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

So, does anyone have a list of who is backing who in the Balkans?

Buj made one, just search up like "Pro-Russia" or "Pro-Anglios" should come up.

[Epraria]

Hmm maybe i could buy Tasmania from Spain.

[Aldelxane]

Not if the Hispanic fleets are smashed by the Alaskan-Scots forces in a war for Mexico's "independence", then it's a decent opportunity for La Plata to show up, but why they would wants lands in the Caribbean is kinda weird.

Oh; also, when considering Spain, remember their baby really did get smashed by the Mughals, and they paid a heavy indemnity to random their captured invasion force. Looking at the old IC, Spain threw almost all of their eastern fleet into the effort, and a large force from Spain itself.

Spain also appears to have had a civil war judging from Waz's last IC post in FoE1.

He gave Mexico independence (which is back with Spain, so that had to happen via a civil war in Mexico) and then couped the monarchy and installed a republic I believe. That's the more wounding thing for Spain at least imo.

It wouldn't, the Caribbean isn't exactly part of my sphere of influence.

[Aldelxane]

Anyhow, La Plata's population: How much can am I allowed to mess with immigration numbers to increase it?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Anyhow, La Plata's population: How much can am I allowed to mess with immigration numbers to increase it?

Did you take, Argentina, Chile, and Uragay and add them together? You might also have Paragay too idk.

Either way, San Martin let people migrate in and immigration was a thing, so maybe add 500k to 750k extra pop at most? That might be too generous or too little idk.

[New Neros]

Um excuse me La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire.

That was established long before in the last edition of FoE.

Pretty sure it was supposed to collapse while invading Nova Roma and San Martin died. Empires like that are hard to keep alive after its leader/founder is out of the question.

You're excused, because it had the immigrant population and technological infrastructure to rebuild it's economy and war machine despite collapsing during the Nova Roman War. It's like how France recovered from the brink after the Napoleonic Wars.

Anyhow, La Plata's population: How much can am I allowed to mess with immigration numbers to increase it?

Pretty decent, actually. Couple of million at least.

[Bujahla]

Not if the Hispanic fleets are smashed by the Alaskan-Scots forces in a war for Mexico's "independence", then it's a decent opportunity for La Plata to show up, but why they would wants lands in the Caribbean is kinda weird.



Spain also appears to have had a civil war judging from Waz's last IC post in FoE1.

He gave Mexico independence (which is back with Spain, so that had to happen via a civil war in Mexico) and then couped the monarchy and installed a republic I believe. That's the more wounding thing for Spain at least imo.

It wouldn't, the Caribbean isn't exactly part of my sphere of influence.

Lol good. Sorry if that was off topic. Im multitasking and am confused about everything lol.

Um excuse me La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire.

That was established long before in the last edition of FoE.

Pretty sure it was supposed to collapse while invading Nova Roma and San Martin died. Empires like that are hard to keep alive after its leader/founder is out of the question.

It was actually supposed to die within the time of the last RP but that never happened. We knew from the start the Andeans were supposed to go down. You agreed to it and if I had the unlimited inbox thingy I'd whip those things out and drop a mic lol.

[Aldelxane]

Anyhow, La Plata's population: How much can am I allowed to mess with immigration numbers to increase it?

Did you take, Argentina, Chile, and Uragay and add them together? You might also have Paragay too idk.

Either way, San Martin let people migrate in and immigration was a thing, so maybe add 500k to 750k extra pop at most? That might be too generous or too little idk.

After adding them together, I got approx. 11 million (or not enough to compete with much).

[Lunas Legion]

So, does anyone have a list of who is backing who in the Balkans?

Buj made one, just search up like "Pro-Russia" or "Pro-Anglios" should come up.

This?

- Serbia - Pro-Russia
- Romania - Pro-UK
- Bulgaria - Pro-UK
- Macedonia - Pro-Italy
- Albania - neutral
- Macedonia - Pro-Russia
- Greece - Pro-Anglois

Can I have an answer on Macedonia? They can't have both Russian and Italian support... Right? Right? If yes, shouldn't Serbia have German backing in that list too (I think)?

[New Neros]

Anyhow, La Plata's population: How much can am I allowed to mess with immigration numbers to increase it?

Did you take, Argentina, Chile, and Uragay and add them together? You might also have Paragay too idk.

Either way, San Martin let people migrate in and immigration was a thing, so maybe add 500k to 750k extra pop at most? That might be too generous or too little idk.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Argentina

La Plata took the place of the US for immigration.

[Bujahla]

Um excuse me La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire.

That was established long before in the last edition of FoE.

Pretty sure it was supposed to collapse while invading Nova Roma and San Martin died. Empires like that are hard to keep alive after its leader/founder is out of the question.

You're excused, because it had the immigrant population and technological infrastructure to rebuild it's economy and war machine despite collapsing during the Nova Roman War. It's like how France recovered from the brink after the Napoleonic Wars.

Anyhow, La Plata's population: How much can am I allowed to mess with immigration numbers to increase it?

Pretty decent, actually. Couple of million at least.

Yeah you could increase it by 2-3 million and I'd be fine with that.
The idea was the Nova Roma didn't want to see another Andean Empire, and the successor states after the fall didn't either, so they joined together and nomed and parts of it, leaving it still twice as large as La Plata was in its original state in 1836.

[Bujahla]

Did you take, Argentina, Chile, and Uragay and add them together? You might also have Paragay too idk.

Either way, San Martin let people migrate in and immigration was a thing, so maybe add 500k to 750k extra pop at most? That might be too generous or too little idk.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Argentina

La Plata took the place of the US for immigration.

Not entirely. It was split between Alaska and the Andeans.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Um excuse me La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire.

That was established long before in the last edition of FoE.

Pretty sure it was supposed to collapse while invading Nova Roma and San Martin died. Empires like that are hard to keep alive after its leader/founder is out of the question.

You're excused, because it had the immigrant population and technological infrastructure to rebuild it's economy and war machine despite collapsing during the Nova Roman War. It's like how France recovered from the brink after the Napoleonic Wars.

Okay and? Napoleon's France collapsed and lost his conquests, so did San Martin's. What any of that has to do with what I said I do not know. Notice I said "La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire".

Buj made one, just search up like "Pro-Russia" or "Pro-Anglios" should come up.

This?

- Serbia - Pro-Russia
- Romania - Pro-UK
- Bulgaria - Pro-UK
- Macedonia - Pro-Italy
- Albania - neutral
- Macedonia - Pro-Russia
- Greece - Pro-Anglois

Can I have an answer on Macedonia? They can't have both Russian and Italian support... Right? Right? If yes, shouldn't Serbia have German backing in that list too (I think)?

I dunno that's Buj's department. On his list Macedonia is pro-Russia not pro-Italy.

[Epraria]

So who is interested in being friends with Daksina?

[Terminus Alpha]

You're excused, because it had the immigrant population and technological infrastructure to rebuild it's economy and war machine despite collapsing during the Nova Roman War. It's like how France recovered from the brink after the Napoleonic Wars.

Okay and? Napoleon's France collapsed and lost his conquests, so did San Martin's. What any of that has to do with what I said I do not know. Notice I said "La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire".

This?

- Serbia - Pro-Russia
- Romania - Pro-UK
- Bulgaria - Pro-UK
- Macedonia - Pro-Italy
- Albania - neutral
- Macedonia - Pro-Russia
- Greece - Pro-Anglois

Can I have an answer on Macedonia? They can't have both Russian and Italian support... Right? Right? If yes, shouldn't Serbia have German backing in that list too (I think)?

I dunno that's Buj's department. On his list Macedonia is pro-Russia not pro-Italy.

Well, Italy outright stated that he was my ally in his history/goals, and I'm fine with that. I'm not looking to start fighting Serbia.

[Bujahla]

You're excused, because it had the immigrant population and technological infrastructure to rebuild it's economy and war machine despite collapsing during the Nova Roman War. It's like how France recovered from the brink after the Napoleonic Wars.

Okay and? Napoleon's France collapsed and lost his conquests, so did San Martin's. What any of that has to do with what I said I do not know. Notice I said "La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire".

This?

- Serbia - Pro-Russia
- Romania - Pro-UK
- Bulgaria - Pro-UK
- Macedonia - Pro-Italy
- Albania - neutral
- Macedonia - Pro-Russia
- Greece - Pro-Anglois

Can I have an answer on Macedonia? They can't have both Russian and Italian support... Right? Right? If yes, shouldn't Serbia have German backing in that list too (I think)?

I dunno that's Buj's department. On his list Macedonia is pro-Russia not pro-Italy.

Macedonia is friends with both and Alpha can decide what he wants to do with that.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Well, Italy outright stated that he was my ally in his history/goals, and I'm fine with that. I'm not looking to start fighting Serbia.

Ah well I had no idea about that.

Interesting choice for the Italians with that. I assumed they'd go more coastal.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Don't worry Buj, when the Balkan War(s) come, I have allies in Italy and Serbia. I also have a mutual dislike of Greece that I share with the Latins, so I hopefully I can ally with them.

We hate Slavs just as much as non-Roman freelance actually.

[New Neros]

You're excused, because it had the immigrant population and technological infrastructure to rebuild it's economy and war machine despite collapsing during the Nova Roman War. It's like how France recovered from the brink after the Napoleonic Wars.



Pretty decent, actually. Couple of million at least.

Yeah you could increase it by 2-3 million and I'd be fine with that.
The idea was the Nova Roma didn't want to see another Andean Empire, and the successor states after the fall didn't either, so they joined together and nomed and parts of it, leaving it still twice as large as La Plata was in its original state in 1836.

Yep, sounds about right.

You're excused, because it had the immigrant population and technological infrastructure to rebuild it's economy and war machine despite collapsing during the Nova Roman War. It's like how France recovered from the brink after the Napoleonic Wars.

Okay and? Napoleon's France collapsed and lost his conquests, so did San Martin's. What any of that has to do with what I said I do not know. Notice I said "La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire".

This?

- Serbia - Pro-Russia
- Romania - Pro-UK
- Bulgaria - Pro-UK
- Macedonia - Pro-Italy
- Albania - neutral
- Macedonia - Pro-Russia
- Greece - Pro-Anglois

Can I have an answer on Macedonia? They can't have both Russian and Italian support... Right? Right? If yes, shouldn't Serbia have German backing in that list too (I think)?

I dunno that's Buj's department. On his list Macedonia is pro-Russia not pro-Italy.

Here's what out has to do with it: You implied that La Plata was a compete shit hole after the war, when it got better, much line France. Pick up a dictionary, and look up what an "analogy" is.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Argentina

La Plata took the place of the US for immigration.

Not entirely. It was split between Alaska and the Andeans.

That's true, roughly even split.

[Terminus Alpha]

Okay and? Napoleon's France collapsed and lost his conquests, so did San Martin's. What any of that has to do with what I said I do not know. Notice I said "La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire".

I dunno that's Buj's department. On his list Macedonia is pro-Russia not pro-Italy.

Macedonia is friends with both and Alpha can decide what he wants to do with that.

Sweet. Maybe I can get some concessions out Greece without having to go to war.

Albania, however, will die.

[Bujahla]

Yeah you could increase it by 2-3 million and I'd be fine with that.
The idea was the Nova Roma didn't want to see another Andean Empire, and the successor states after the fall didn't either, so they joined together and nomed and parts of it, leaving it still twice as large as La Plata was in its original state in 1836.

Yep, sounds about right.

Okay and? Napoleon's France collapsed and lost his conquests, so did San Martin's. What any of that has to do with what I said I do not know. Notice I said "La Plata was never supposed to survive as the Andean Empire".

I dunno that's Buj's department. On his list Macedonia is pro-Russia not pro-Italy.

Here's what out has to do with it: You implied that La Plata was a compete shit hole after the war, when it got better, much line France. Pick up a dictionary, and look up what an "analogy" is.

Not entirely. It was split between Alaska and the Andeans.

That's true, roughly even split.

Yeah okay good. Now that's that all good lets just like all (all parties included) just chill out and drop it (like its hot). No need to get that angry. It's been 75 years, La Plata is fine now.

Macedonia is friends with both and Alpha can decide what he wants to do with that.

Sweet. Maybe I can get some concessions out Greece without having to go to war.

Albania, however, will die.

Well gl w/ that.