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by Greater Mobile » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:05 pm


by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:18 pm
Greater Mobile wrote:What's the situation in central America? I think I'd like to join

by The imperial canadian dutchy » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:38 pm
Aldelxane wrote:The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:All PNORN does is agitate non-Roman greeks, we have not called for the destruction of greece
Right...
"Another clear motive the party laid out for was the destruction of the neighbouring Greek state for denying 'The Legitimacy of Rome's Sons'"
-Your application.

by Greater Mobile » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:08 pm

by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:09 pm


by Greater Mobile » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:15 pm
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Greater Mobile wrote:
On second thought, maybe I won't do central America.
Are there any vacant nations that need to be RPd? Or does someone have a suggestion?
Need? The Mamelukes. They're a prominent Muslim power with inactive enough of a RPer that they probably deserve a kick, and I have negotiating to do with them


by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:19 pm
Greater Mobile wrote:G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Need? The Mamelukes. They're a prominent Muslim power with inactive enough of a RPer that they probably deserve a kick, and I have negotiating to do with them
Well, I'll consider it if/when it becomes open.
I'm trying to go through all the history, but (as is the problem with joining any RP mid game) it's kinda complex at this point. Everything seems tangled up

by Bujahla » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:51 pm
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Greater Mobile wrote:
On second thought, maybe I won't do central America.
Are there any vacant nations that need to be RPd? Or does someone have a suggestion?
Need? The Mamelukes. They're a prominent Muslim power with inactive enough of a RPer that they probably deserve a kick, and I have negotiating to do with them
*Huzzah he lives!*
Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."

by The Vaktovian Empire » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:56 pm

by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:10 pm
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:IC Post of my most recent aptitude includes telegrams sent to Mughals, Scandinavia, and the Alaskan Federation, or New Neros, Bujahla, and G-Tech

by Altito Asmoro » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:12 pm

by The Vaktovian Empire » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:17 pm

by Bujahla » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:30 pm
*Huzzah he lives!*
Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:37 pm
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Interesting. I'm curious- what do you expect the Mughals to do to contain Japan?
Well, Nicholas isn't asking for direct military involvement or assistance. Basically, he's trying to say that the more Regional subcontinent powers that are flaunting their military and superior prowess in response to this Japanese aggressive foreign policy, the less chance Japan has of winning over any chance of getting public support from a war with any nation, including Russia or the Mughals, because they realize that said other nations are just as ready and willing to fight to the death as they are. We've already tried talks with Japan and when we offer them a fourth of the cookie, they want to take the whole thing, and then have a glass of milk to go on the side too.

by Kisinger » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:45 pm
G-Tech Corporation wrote:The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Well, Nicholas isn't asking for direct military involvement or assistance. Basically, he's trying to say that the more Regional subcontinent powers that are flaunting their military and superior prowess in response to this Japanese aggressive foreign policy, the less chance Japan has of winning over any chance of getting public support from a war with any nation, including Russia or the Mughals, because they realize that said other nations are just as ready and willing to fight to the death as they are. We've already tried talks with Japan and when we offer them a fourth of the cookie, they want to take the whole thing, and then have a glass of milk to go on the side too.
Fair enough. Not a bad tactic, but realistically, if the Japanese aren't swayed by the growing might of the Mughal navy and our maneuvers near Siam, I doubt they'll care about anything more. If their military government wants to drive the car off the cliff, they won't stop for warning signs about a twisting road.
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Don't you dare take my other 75% orgasm. I'm a greedy womyn, influenced by the cold hard erection of the patriarchy.

by The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:47 pm

by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:49 pm
Kisinger wrote:G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Fair enough. Not a bad tactic, but realistically, if the Japanese aren't swayed by the growing might of the Mughal navy and our maneuvers near Siam, I doubt they'll care about anything more. If their military government wants to drive the car off the cliff, they won't stop for warning signs about a twisting road.
Yeah being quite honest, the only threat I see to me is Alaska... The Mughals don't worry me to much and no offense Russia but your Military in the East is really only scary because of Manchuria...

by Kisinger » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:50 pm
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Kisinger wrote:Yeah being quite honest, the only threat I see to me is Alaska... The Mughals don't worry me to much and no offense Russia but your Military in the East is really only scary because of Manchuria...
I mean, I could do some naval work, but I see little reason to. It would cost too much to fight in eastern Russia, and unless you stray into south China we have no clashing interests.
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Don't you dare take my other 75% orgasm. I'm a greedy womyn, influenced by the cold hard erection of the patriarchy.

by Greater Istanistan » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:51 pm


by The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:51 pm

by Greater Istanistan » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:52 pm

by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:54 pm

by The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:56 pm
Greater Istanistan wrote:Generic Info
Nation Name: Republic of Greece
Symbols: Orthodox Cross, Double-Headed Eagle, Dolphin,
Homeland Population: 3.4 Million (including Thrace, Ionian islands)
Imperial Population: 0 - no colonies
Location/Claims: Location: 39 - harbors semi-serious territorial aspirations towards portions of Western Anatolia and Macedonia which are unlikely to be acted on due to sheer impracticality
Capital City: Athens
Government Info
Government Type: Unitary Presidential Republic
Brief Explanation of Government: The government is relatively simple, with most power being centralized in the state apparatus. The franchise has been extended to all citizens of the Republic, leaving its politics dominated by the peasant masses that populate it. A Hellenic Assembly elected through proportional representation theoretically has legislative power, but the tendency for the President to be a military-backed populist strongman leaves them a paper tiger unwilling to contradict his will. The court system is relatively independent, however, as the legal profession is a firm bastion of liberalism and is more than willing to duke it out with the President in the political arena if he oversteps his bounds. Most of the population lives in agrarian communities which are typically run in all but name by the Orthodox Church, where locals elect leadership but the priesthood forms the decision-making upper crust.
Both governments and the extremely powerful Church tend towards pro-peasant politics, running large welfare programs and seeking to improve infrastructure and industry in order to benefit the peasants. The landowning elite which dominates so much of the normal Balkan political order was mostly Italian and was wiped out in the revolution and succeeding social chaos, leaving Radical politics the order of the day.
Ideology: Pan-Hellenism, Populism, Nationalism, Radicalism, Liberalism
Leader/s: Major-General Sotiris Michelakos, President of the Republic of Greece, Representative of the Hellenes, and Protector of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchy
Population Info
Brief Description of your people: The population of the Republic of Greece is mostly composed of ethnic Greeks who typically worship at Greek Orthodox churces. The majority (roughly 65%) are farmers who eke out a living within Greece's limited arable land growing corn and wheat. In the last few decades, the government has made a serious effort to promote the growing of cash crops (growing the export sector and bringing money to the peasants), subsidize collective farms (in order to consolidate unproductive microfundi into more viable and economically useful large structures), and aggressively modernize agricultural techniques in order to aid the peasants. As a result, the average Greek farmer is relatively well-off, but constantly wary that something will come to drag them back to the 1840s. The rural citizens are typically social conservatives, wary of violent change or the return of more foreign overlords. As such, when conditions become dissatisfying they have a tendency to pick up their rifles and shoot at the nearest government officials until their fears are assuaged. By contrast, the steadily growing urban population, particularly in the North and along the coasts, is extremely cosmopolitan. Aragonese sailors mingle with Anglois vacationers and Malmuk merchants, bringing diverse cultural viewpoints to the urban areas that were once the birthplace of Western civilization and culture. City-dwellers tend to be far more liberal than their rural cousins, having been exposed to a far wider view of the world. They form the educated elite of the nation, and while the peasants dominate national discourse and culture it is the urbanites who get elected and make up the well-publicized outwards face of the nation.
Religion: The dominant religion is Greek Orthodoxy, as almost all citizens are adherents to it. The Greek Patriarchate is an integral part of the national identity, with the government using it as a bludgeon to whip the population into a nationalist fervour whenever any one of the nation's hostile neighbors commences saber-rattling and seeks to annex Greek land. The Orthodox Church also plays a huge role in civil society, forming a huge pressure network aimed at removing oppression of the common folk and channeling wealth into the hands of the poorest so as to retain its social relevance and popularity in a generally Liberal state. There are pockets of Bulgarian Orthodoxy and Catholicism in Thrace, where the Latins and Bulgarians are more influential, and in the South and Northwest several Sunni Islamic communities exist, mostly made up of Mameluke and Albanian expats and immigrants. Finally, the cities have a decently-sized Jewish minority.
Ethnicity: As a Greek ethnic nationalist state, it makes sense that the vast majority of the country is made up of Greeks. However, a wide variety of groups including Turks, Bulgars, Roma, Jews, Albanians, Arabs, Italians, and a smattering of assorted Western European philhellenes also populate the country.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Greeks
Other Cultures: See above list of minorities under ethnicity - note, however, that with the exception of Italians, who were left behind by the colonial government, most of these groups are not actively hated. Some, such as Bulgarians, are suppressed to a greater extent because of the ambitions of their respective governments in regards to Greek territory.
Military Info
Army:
Hellenic Army
The Hellenic Army is the primary military force of the nation and receives extremely high levels of investment from the government due to the recent Thracian insurgency and the ever-present threat of mass foreign invasion. It is designed to be a blunt force weapon, deployed en masse. In peacetime, it is also used to construct infrastructure and build the nation up. This dual use allows an unusually large force to be deployed.
Total troops: 140,000
1st Division (Eastern Thrace): 20,000
2nd Division (Western Thrace): 15,000
3rd Division (Thessaloniki, Western Macedonia Region): 20,000
4th Division (Eastern Macedonia Region): 15,000
5th Division (North Thessalia): 12,000
6th Division (South Thessalia): 10,000
7th Division (Arcadia): 10,000
8th Division (East Peloponnesia): 12,000
9th Division (Epirus): 16,000
Aegean Provisional Division (2000 troops each for the Cyclades, N. East Aegean, Sporades, Dodecannese, and Argo-Saronic Gulf island chains)
Republican Guard:
A special unit of 30,000 elite troops tasked with defending the capitol and the nearby areas. Sworn solely to the President, it serves as a counterweight to all other power blocs within the nation and is charged with holding to the last the cradle of Greek democracy. This force is recruited solely from volunteers and undergoes brutal training. Its discipline is all but unbreakable, and its equipment is the finest money can buy. The only weakness it has is a tendency towards political meddling which is tolerated by the peasantry as the cost of having a secure Greece.
1st Special Division (Attica): 14,000
2nd Special Division (South Evia): 10,000
Periclean Guard (Athens): 6,000
Klephts:
In times of trouble and occupation, the peasants of Greece tend to engage in patriotic banditry, preying on foreign troops and collaborators thereof in order to save their homeland and Church while enriching themselves along the way. Rather than discourage this, the Greek government has actively attempted to encourage peasants to hone their shooting skills and learn the land features better. They know that some day a fair bit of Greece may be occupied again, at which point it is only prudent to have a pre-built insurgent army in place. This also leaves the army with a sizable force of reservists capable of bolstering its ranks in case of combat loss.
Navy: (branches, number of troops, quality of navy, etc,)
Although Greece is currently too poor a nation to construct a massive fleet, its navy is still a respectable force capable of trouncing any one of its regional foes. Its sailors are experienced and hardy, often drawn from the merchant marine.
Sailors: 50,000
Pre-Dreadnought Battleships: 1
Armoured Cruisers: 2
Destroyers: 15
Submarines: 2
Transports: 12
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Greek economy is quite bipolar. Within the cities, a thriving trade sector based on Mediterranean commerce and export fuels a steady industrial boom and growing lower/middle classes. Cities such as Athens and Corinth resemble any Western European metropolises. Within the countryside, however, peasants work to produce cash crops and feed their families within collective farms or their own smallholdings. They live as they have for centuries. Their conditions are far better than they ever have been before and continue to further improve, but at the same time nobody can be sure if they are improving fast enough.
Goals: Continue industrialization/urbanization, maintain Greek cultural stability, construct Thracian canal, deflect foreign territorial ambitions, build military up, naturalize and integrate minorities within the nation in order to prevent repeat of Thracian revolt
History:
1840s - In response to increased taxation and oppression by its foreign occupiers (spurred on, of course, by the massive German armies pounding at their borders), Greek peasants begin their old habit of forming roving bands and shooting at foreigners. As this happens every couple decades, it goes unremarked.
1853 - The peasant insurgency turns from a small problem to a major mess as a new element comes into play. Referring to itself as the Filiki Eteria, a secretive Greek nationalist society based in Odessa begins using its extensive contacts among the Greek diaspora and the global philhellene population to finance revolts in the cities and organize the peasant population. The foreigners, exhausted by their wars against the Germans, are ill prepared to resist or stop the problems caused by the Filiki.
1854 - By the time the colonialists are able to begin organizing a resistance, it is too late. The population of Thessaloniki rises up, armed citizens engaging in gun battles with Genoan troops in the streets. Meanwhile, the entirety of Greek Macedonia rumbles with unrest as the peasants put down their plows and pick up their rifles. The economy begins a sharp decline as banditry and food hoarding spread across the nation.
1855 - The colonial governor of Athens is blown up using a powder-keg, along with a fair bit of the governor's palace and several key officials. Revolver-toting assassins roam the streets of the cities shooting down soldiers and occupation officials wherever they are found, spurred on by strong alcohol and stronger national pride. Outright warfare rages on in the North. Thessaloniki has been captured entirely by insurgents and a provisional government has been set up. A Greek Army of Liberation, composed of both local patriots and international volunteers fighting in the name of Slavic freedom or Hellenic independence, commences combat operations and begins bludgeoning its way into the Kingdom of Thrace and Westwards into the Albanian-claimed areas.
1856 - In a surprising coup de main, the Army of Liberation liberates several Genoan naval ships and begins systematically annihilating the Genoan colonies of the Aegean Sea. The Kingdom of Thrace collapses and is declared part of the burgeoning Republic of Greece. The Albanian rule doesn't last much longer, with Greek armies and opportunistic Aragonese colonial forces moving into their territory and grabbing all the land they can. Using the bombing in Athens as a prime example, Greek patriots all over the nation proceed to burn down or blow up as many administrative buildings as possible. Grenades tossed into cafes full of colonial bureaucrats are a new favourite.
1857 - A massive revolt in the Peloponnese Peninsula involving hundreds of thousands of enraged peasants breaks out. The Venetian government is almost powerless to stop the explosion of the people's will - or, for that matter, the explosion of a fire ship within the harbour of Kalamata that knocks most of their in-area naval units out. After several ferocious naval engagements, Greek ships force the Piraeus and land thousands of troops a few miles from Athens, which they immediately march for. Genoese resistance crumbles. Riots break out in Trikala, with city-dwellers hanging as many Aragonese as they can find from lamp-posts or shooting them in the streets. The Army of Liberation's march Southwards is brought to a halt at Larissa, where the majority of the in-area Aragonese units are fortified. After a nearly three-month siege, a combination of military action from without and a revolt organised by the local Filiki Eteria chapter break the Aragonese lines and the triumphant Greek forces enter the city. Peasants across Greece rise against their colonial landlords and butcher them.
1858 - Athens falls to the nationalist Greeks as the main mass of the Army of Liberation moves further South and revolutionaries in the Peloponnese complete their conquest of the peninsula. By July, all organized resistance has vanished. Greece is once again free. Pockets of colonial resistance remain, but they are crushed wherever they are found. Several major naval raids are also repelled.
1859 - Greece recognized.
1860-1864 - Over the four years after the revolution, a new national government based on democracy for all and a strong central state is constructed. Italians and Aragonese are systematically rounded up and exchanged with their home governments for pillaged cultural treasures. If their governments fail to play ball, their expats are hanged in public.
1866 - The government begins aggressively promoting Greek culture, spending immense sums and whipping up large international charitable donations to help recover the lost glories of the nation from its golden age. The Acropolis is restored to its former glory, the Oracle of Delphi is turned into a tourist site, and dozens of museums showcasing local and national archaeological finds are opened across the nation. Large sums are also spent on restoring the Orthodox Church, which has suffered after decades of abuse by foreign Catholics.
1880 - The government, after threat of another peasant revolt, begins actively building better lives for peasants through a variety of economic policies. Equipment is sold at cheap prices, low-interest microloans are tendered by the government, and new soil is sought for constantly. Trainers are sent into the countryside to help the peasants learn better agricultural techniques and as such improve their lives.
1887 - Construction on a canal connecting the Aegean to the Ionian via the Isthmus of Corinth begins.
1890 - The Isthmian Canal is finished, drastically increasing ease of access for populations on both sides of the new waterway.
1892 - Border clashes with the Latins over the Aegean isles and Thrace set the population on edge, kicking off a major round of military spending and resulting in the construction of new naval assets and an impressive trench line across the border with Latin Thracia. Fortifications are also built on the border with Bulgaria.
1895 - Renegade military elements attempt a coup d'etat in order to install a Catholic monarchy. This is crushed after several hours of fighting in Athens, but leads to the creation of the Republican Guard and a closer union between Orthodox Church and Greek Republic.
1896 - Policy of Reconciliation instituted, in which Greece begins to try and woo Aragon and the Anglois in order to gain access to their markets and military hardware. An apology for the mass slaughter of innocent Aragonese during the revolution is issued.
1899 - The idea of a Thracian canal at the territory's narrowest point in order to bypass Constantinople and gain unfettered access to the Black Sea is floated and is approved in a national referendum.
1900 - An insurgency in Thrace begins, aimed at recreating the defunct Kingdom and from there unifying with Bulgaria. The military is deployed in large numbers. Unfortunately, the plans to construct the Canal are put on hold due to the continuing violence and lack of security in the area.
1901-1905 - The guerrilla warfare rages on in Thrace, with brutal conflicts between Greek nationalists and separatist forces tearing each other apart.
1906 - After a long and bitter campaign, the Greek army emerges triumphant in Thrace. The insurgency is decisively broken, leaving the Greek army hardened and battle-ready. The general consensus among the population is to blame Bulgaria for everything. Border defenses within the mountains of the North are hardened and the army is drastically expanded.
Special Factors:
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RP Sample:“Attention, labourers!”, the tannoy blasted downwards into the massive blanket of workers as they slogged into the Angelus Factory Complex, Subsector 37. “Attention, labourers! For the seventy-sixth consecutive month, the Breean Board of Directors announced an average corporate profit rating of over 90%, with overheads and wages making up less than 10% of total expenses. Average wealth has grown by 70%. Of this growth, 90% is concentrated in the entrepreneurial classes. Work hard, and you may one day join them!”
Not a single worker, man or woman, looked upwards at the loudspeakers as they blasted their message down to the masses.
“Basic exports of goods such as refrigerators, rifles, cars, and medical equipment to Vanparia have tripled. Our ore processing has doubled. Glass made of the great deserts which surround the city pulls in an annual profit of almost one trillion dollars for corporations such as the Gemini Conglomerate, run from our glorious brother-state of Kaarethiel, and the Vanparian Imperial Investment Corporation, a state-owned enterprise from across the border. Every hour, six hundred billion dollars worth of trade goods flow through our port, either upriver and out to Istanistan and Pandora or inwards to Vanparia, Stadt, and Recheve.”
Within the shuffling masses, an old man, frail and starved, ceased shuffling for a moment and toppled to the ground. Nobody stopped to help him. They simply flowed around him, wary of the whips and guns of the corporate security guards and National Police in the watchtowers above them.
“Ours is a city of great justice and great splendour. Our militia, staffed by the common man and led by the daring and the rich, is the shield of the city. Our National Police, hardened and dutiful, is the bulwark of the State. And Corporate Security, loyal and true, is the bulwark of capital, greatest of all virtues of this city. Together these forces defend us from all enemies – be they exterior foes, such as Telemarcian statist-imperialists and Greater Istanistani Socialist provocateurs, or internal subversives, such as trade unionists and wreckers. They defend, together, YOUR freedoms, YOUR liberties.”
With a tortured howl, a whistle sounded its dreary call to arms. The forty-meter gates of the Inner Complex groaned open, admitting the tide of life-weary workers and their rifle-toting chaperones.
“Be proud, labourers, to be the productive base of the greatest city in the East and the world’s busiest seaport. You stand, here, at the junction of Pandora, Tuvhalia, and Favoria, sustaining them all. Breeans started with nothing, but now they are the greatest people on Earth. Guided in a meritocratic fashion by the most intelligent, the hardest working, and the most ruthless, our city will some day, through the ties of commerce and banking, be foremost in the entire world. Feel proud, workers – nay, feel privileged – to bend your backs to such a magnificent task.
Remember our credo as you bend your backs to your own advancement. Remember our nation’s motto, and let it echo through your soul.
For the Corporate Board! For prosperity! For Bree!”
Nobody had paid any attention. They simply shuffled, looked down, and boiled in their own hatred for their masters, most of which were foreigners, and their enforcers, many of them Vanparian ex-Legionaries recruited out of Stadt.
They did nothing today. No one person would stand up. Fear, for now, outweighed hatred.
But tomorrow?
Maybe someone would light a spark. Maybe someone would take a stand. Maybe someone would rise up through the dreary smogs and the grime-choked world they lived and face down the ravages of unrestrained capitalism, absolute inequality, and the dictatorship of the city’s foreign overlords. Maybe a ray of light would cut through the wall of smog and fire which forever veiled the sun and created an eternal half-night.
Maybe there would be a change.
Maybe there would be a revolution.
Maybe.
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by Altito Asmoro » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:58 pm
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