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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:37 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Yup, like I said it is heavily balanced against the Anglios due to their shit allies, but England + France can surely handle themselves for a fairly long time.

Perhaps Japan might helpful? Also, where do the Scots stand?


Japan will be useful in the sense that is will open a second front for Russia and harass any Pacific holdings of the Triple Alliance.

We ain't getting involved in no Great War.

Besides, Alaska and the Scots are gonna go party with Spain, a separate war.

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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:58 pm

Would it be possible to pick a second nation?
I'm the only country in South America with a player, there isn't much to do :-/

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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:01 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:Would it be possible to pick a second nation?
I'm the only country in South America with a player, there isn't much to do :-/


I am waiting for Buj to go o'er my app, as I needeth moi airships, zen ve can begin ze dance >:D
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Postby Bujahla » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:27 pm

The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
Baja California y Sonora wrote:Would it be possible to pick a second nation?
I'm the only country in South America with a player, there isn't much to do :-/


I am waiting for Buj to go o'er my app, as I needeth moi airships, zen ve can begin ze dance >:D


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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:41 pm

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I'll make a post tomorrow after school, since I was too busy to tonight.


Also you win for closest. We were at 80/82 depending on the timing of that day.

*pops champagne poppers with confetti going nowhere* woo

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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:46 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Perhaps Japan might helpful? Also, where do the Scots stand?


Japan will be useful in the sense that is will open a second front for Russia and harass any Pacific holdings of the Triple Alliance.

We ain't getting involved in no Great War.

Besides, Alaska and the Scots are gonna go party with Spain, a separate war.


Russia is going to try to avoid Russo-Japanese War, if at all possible.

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Postby Kisinger » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:55 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Japan will be useful in the sense that is will open a second front for Russia and harass any Pacific holdings of the Triple Alliance.

We ain't getting involved in no Great War.

Besides, Alaska and the Scots are gonna go party with Spain, a separate war.


Russia is going to try to avoid Russo-Japanese War, if at all possible.

>Totally doesn't desire Port Arthur or Vladivostok
>Controls Japanese Islands
>Controls Manchuria as puppet
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:59 pm

Kisinger wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Russia is going to try to avoid Russo-Japanese War, if at all possible.

>Totally doesn't desire Port Arthur or Vladivostok
>Controls Japanese Islands
>Controls Manchuria as puppet


So if we meant you halfway and gave you your Japanese Islands, would you back off us and stop trying to send shit down our throats? At this point, Russia wants to try and resolve the problem as diplomatically savvy as possible. However, Manchuria is an independent nation (HUEHUEHUE) and cannot be considered owned, ruled, or otherwise operated by the Imperial Russian Government. Port Arthur is also an agreed territory we control because the Manchurians were kind enough to gift us the land in exchange for humanitarian aid in several occasions, and other favors we've done for them. So....

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Postby Kisinger » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:06 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Kisinger wrote:>Totally doesn't desire Port Arthur or Vladivostok
>Controls Japanese Islands
>Controls Manchuria as puppet


So if we meant you halfway and gave you your Japanese Islands, would you back off us and stop trying to send shit down our throats? At this point, Russia wants to try and resolve the problem as diplomatically savvy as possible. However, Manchuria is an independent nation (HUEHUEHUE) and cannot be considered owned, ruled, or otherwise operated by the Imperial Russian Government. Port Arthur is also an agreed territory we control because the Manchurians were kind enough to gift us the land in exchange for humanitarian aid in several occasions, and other favors we've done for them. So....

We'd still end up in a war if something blew up in Europe... Us being Allied to Anglois and Manchuria being your Sphereling... But we don't necessarily view Russia as strong compared to us... I mean, your Pacific Fleet is only 35 Ships. And your power in the East doesn't seem all that large(Unless you have stacked a large portion of your Army. But, realistically you'd probably back up Manchuria if they were invaded because of spheres...
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The Vaktovian Empire
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:15 pm

Kisinger wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
So if we meant you halfway and gave you your Japanese Islands, would you back off us and stop trying to send shit down our throats? At this point, Russia wants to try and resolve the problem as diplomatically savvy as possible. However, Manchuria is an independent nation (HUEHUEHUE) and cannot be considered owned, ruled, or otherwise operated by the Imperial Russian Government. Port Arthur is also an agreed territory we control because the Manchurians were kind enough to gift us the land in exchange for humanitarian aid in several occasions, and other favors we've done for them. So....

We'd still end up in a war if something blew up in Europe... Us being Allied to Anglois and Manchuria being your Sphereling... But we don't necessarily view Russia as strong compared to us... I mean, your Pacific Fleet is only 35 Ships. And your power in the East doesn't seem all that large(Unless you have stacked a large portion of your Army. But, realistically you'd probably back up Manchuria if they were invaded because of spheres...


Well yes, and Machuria is somewhat of a puppet (I'll tell you that OOCly) But they also are self-sufficient in many regards and don't need Russia's help necessarily. They have a sizable and semi-well maintained and disciplined Arms Forces Branch, their Naval power in the Pacific is far better than that of Russia's (Although since they're my semi-puppet, I have yet to crunch the numbers for their Navy and Army) but they also don't want to get into Japan's sphere and would far rather support Japan in its efforts to remain independent of Anglois influence. The same goes for Russia. They actually far prefer and independent Japan. If possible, the Tsar is hoping to cut the line of the "sphere" you speak of at the Sea of Japan, with any islands we control given to your control now that you're independent. That is, of course for Port Arthur, Vladivistok and Manchuria. The Sakhalin Division is another problem.

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Postby Super-Llamaland » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:22 pm

Honestly I was tempted to say "stop trading with the Mughals and we'll throw weaponry at you" to Tibet, but that's like the easiest way to get rejected.
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Generic Info
Nation Name: Republic of Greece
Symbols: Orthodox Cross, Double-Headed Eagle, Dolphin,
Homeland Population: 3.4 Million (including Thrace, Ionian islands)
Imperial Population: 0 - no colonies
Location/Claims: Location: 39 - harbors semi-serious territorial aspirations towards portions of Western Anatolia and Macedonia which are unlikely to be acted on due to sheer impracticality
Capital City: Athens

Government Info
Government Type: Unitary Presidential Republic
Brief Explanation of Government: The government is relatively simple, with most power being centralized in the state apparatus. The franchise has been extended to all citizens of the Republic, leaving its politics dominated by the peasant masses that populate it. A Hellenic Assembly elected through proportional representation theoretically has legislative power, but the tendency for the President to be a military-backed populist strongman leaves them a paper tiger unwilling to contradict his will. The court system is relatively independent, however, as the legal profession is a firm bastion of liberalism and is more than willing to duke it out with the President in the political arena if he oversteps his bounds. Most of the population lives in agrarian communities which are typically run in all but name by the Orthodox Church, where locals elect leadership but the priesthood forms the decision-making upper crust.

Both governments and the extremely powerful Church tend towards pro-peasant politics, running large welfare programs and seeking to improve infrastructure and industry in order to benefit the peasants. The landowning elite which dominates so much of the normal Balkan political order was mostly Italian and was wiped out in the revolution and succeeding social chaos, leaving Radical politics the order of the day.
Ideology: Pan-Hellenism, Populism, Nationalism, Radicalism, Liberalism
Leader/s: Major-General Sotiris Michelakos, President of the Republic of Greece, Representative of the Hellenes, and Protector of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchy

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: The population of the Republic of Greece is mostly composed of ethnic Greeks who typically worship at Greek Orthodox churces. The majority (roughly 65%) are farmers who eke out a living within Greece's limited arable land growing corn and wheat. In the last few decades, the government has made a serious effort to promote the growing of cash crops (growing the export sector and bringing money to the peasants), subsidize collective farms (in order to consolidate unproductive microfundi into more viable and economically useful large structures), and aggressively modernize agricultural techniques in order to aid the peasants. As a result, the average Greek farmer is relatively well-off, but constantly wary that something will come to drag them back to the 1840s. The rural citizens are typically social conservatives, wary of violent change or the return of more foreign overlords. As such, when conditions become dissatisfying they have a tendency to pick up their rifles and shoot at the nearest government officials until their fears are assuaged. By contrast, the steadily growing urban population, particularly in the North and along the coasts, is extremely cosmopolitan. Aragonese sailors mingle with Anglois vacationers and Malmuk merchants, bringing diverse cultural viewpoints to the urban areas that were once the birthplace of Western civilization and culture. City-dwellers tend to be far more liberal than their rural cousins, having been exposed to a far wider view of the world. They form the educated elite of the nation, and while the peasants dominate national discourse and culture it is the urbanites who get elected and make up the well-publicized outwards face of the nation.
Religion: The dominant religion is Greek Orthodoxy, as almost all citizens are adherents to it. The Greek Patriarchate is an integral part of the national identity, with the government using it as a bludgeon to whip the population into a nationalist fervour whenever any one of the nation's hostile neighbors commences saber-rattling and seeks to annex Greek land. The Orthodox Church also plays a huge role in civil society, forming a huge pressure network aimed at removing oppression of the common folk and channeling wealth into the hands of the poorest so as to retain its social relevance and popularity in a generally Liberal state. There are pockets of Bulgarian Orthodoxy and Catholicism in Thrace, where the Latins and Bulgarians are more influential, and in the South and Northwest several Sunni Islamic communities exist, mostly made up of Mameluke and Albanian expats and immigrants. Finally, the cities have a decently-sized Jewish minority.
Ethnicity: As a Greek ethnic nationalist state, it makes sense that the vast majority of the country is made up of Greeks. However, a wide variety of groups including Turks, Bulgars, Roma, Jews, Albanians, Arabs, Italians, and a smattering of assorted Western European philhellenes also populate the country.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Greeks
Other Cultures: See above list of minorities under ethnicity - note, however, that with the exception of Italians, who were left behind by the colonial government, most of these groups are not actively hated. Some, such as Bulgarians, are suppressed to a greater extent because of the ambitions of their respective governments in regards to Greek territory.

Military Info
Army:

Hellenic Army

The Hellenic Army is the primary military force of the nation and receives extremely high levels of investment from the government due to the recent Thracian insurgency and the ever-present threat of mass foreign invasion. It is designed to be a blunt force weapon, deployed en masse. In peacetime, it is also used to construct infrastructure and build the nation up. This dual use allows an unusually large force to be deployed.

Total troops: 140,000

1st Division (Eastern Thrace): 20,000
2nd Division (Western Thrace): 15,000
3rd Division (Thessaloniki, Western Macedonia Region): 20,000
4th Division (Eastern Macedonia Region): 15,000
5th Division (North Thessalia): 12,000
6th Division (South Thessalia): 10,000
7th Division (Arcadia): 10,000
8th Division (East Peloponnesia): 12,000
9th Division (Epirus): 16,000
Aegean Provisional Division (2000 troops each for the Cyclades, N. East Aegean, Sporades, Dodecannese, and Argo-Saronic Gulf island chains)

Republican Guard:

A special unit of 30,000 elite troops tasked with defending the capitol and the nearby areas. Sworn solely to the President, it serves as a counterweight to all other power blocs within the nation and is charged with holding to the last the cradle of Greek democracy. This force is recruited solely from volunteers and undergoes brutal training. Its discipline is all but unbreakable, and its equipment is the finest money can buy. The only weakness it has is a tendency towards political meddling which is tolerated by the peasantry as the cost of having a secure Greece.

1st Special Division (Attica): 14,000
2nd Special Division (South Evia): 10,000
Periclean Guard (Athens): 6,000

Klephts:

In times of trouble and occupation, the peasants of Greece tend to engage in patriotic banditry, preying on foreign troops and collaborators thereof in order to save their homeland and Church while enriching themselves along the way. Rather than discourage this, the Greek government has actively attempted to encourage peasants to hone their shooting skills and learn the land features better. They know that some day a fair bit of Greece may be occupied again, at which point it is only prudent to have a pre-built insurgent army in place. This also leaves the army with a sizable force of reservists capable of bolstering its ranks in case of combat loss.

Navy: (branches, number of troops, quality of navy, etc,)

Although Greece is currently too poor a nation to construct a massive fleet, its navy is still a respectable force capable of trouncing any one of its regional foes. Its sailors are experienced and hardy, often drawn from the merchant marine.

Sailors: 50,000

Pre-Dreadnought Battleships: 1
Armoured Cruisers: 2
Destroyers: 15
Submarines: 2
Transports: 12

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Greek economy is quite bipolar. Within the cities, a thriving trade sector based on Mediterranean commerce and export fuels a steady industrial boom and growing lower/middle classes. Cities such as Athens and Corinth resemble any Western European metropolises. Within the countryside, however, peasants work to produce cash crops and feed their families within collective farms or their own smallholdings. They live as they have for centuries. Their conditions are far better than they ever have been before and continue to further improve, but at the same time nobody can be sure if they are improving fast enough.
Goals: Continue industrialization/urbanization, maintain Greek cultural stability, construct Thracian canal, deflect foreign territorial ambitions, build military up, naturalize and integrate minorities within the nation in order to prevent repeat of Thracian revolt
History:

1840s - In response to increased taxation and oppression by its foreign occupiers (spurred on, of course, by the massive German armies pounding at their borders), Greek peasants begin their old habit of forming roving bands and shooting at foreigners. As this happens every couple decades, it goes unremarked.
1853 - The peasant insurgency turns from a small problem to a major mess as a new element comes into play. Referring to itself as the Filiki Eteria, a secretive Greek nationalist society based in Odessa begins using its extensive contacts among the Greek diaspora and the global philhellene population to finance revolts in the cities and organize the peasant population. The foreigners, exhausted by their wars against the Germans, are ill prepared to resist or stop the problems caused by the Filiki.
1854 - By the time the colonialists are able to begin organizing a resistance, it is too late. The population of Thessaloniki rises up, armed citizens engaging in gun battles with Genoan troops in the streets. Meanwhile, the entirety of Greek Macedonia rumbles with unrest as the peasants put down their plows and pick up their rifles. The economy begins a sharp decline as banditry and food hoarding spread across the nation.
1855 - The colonial governor of Athens is blown up using a powder-keg, along with a fair bit of the governor's palace and several key officials. Revolver-toting assassins roam the streets of the cities shooting down soldiers and occupation officials wherever they are found, spurred on by strong alcohol and stronger national pride. Outright warfare rages on in the North. Thessaloniki has been captured entirely by insurgents and a provisional government has been set up. A Greek Army of Liberation, composed of both local patriots and international volunteers fighting in the name of Slavic freedom or Hellenic independence, commences combat operations and begins bludgeoning its way into the Kingdom of Thrace and Westwards into the Albanian-claimed areas.
1856 - In a surprising coup de main, the Army of Liberation liberates several Genoan naval ships and begins systematically annihilating the Genoan colonies of the Aegean Sea. The Kingdom of Thrace collapses and is declared part of the burgeoning Republic of Greece. The Albanian rule doesn't last much longer, with Greek armies and opportunistic Aragonese colonial forces moving into their territory and grabbing all the land they can. Using the bombing in Athens as a prime example, Greek patriots all over the nation proceed to burn down or blow up as many administrative buildings as possible. Grenades tossed into cafes full of colonial bureaucrats are a new favourite.
1857 - A massive revolt in the Peloponnese Peninsula involving hundreds of thousands of enraged peasants breaks out. The Venetian government is almost powerless to stop the explosion of the people's will - or, for that matter, the explosion of a fire ship within the harbour of Kalamata that knocks most of their in-area naval units out. After several ferocious naval engagements, Greek ships force the Piraeus and land thousands of troops a few miles from Athens, which they immediately march for. Genoese resistance crumbles. Riots break out in Trikala, with city-dwellers hanging as many Aragonese as they can find from lamp-posts or shooting them in the streets. The Army of Liberation's march Southwards is brought to a halt at Larissa, where the majority of the in-area Aragonese units are fortified. After a nearly three-month siege, a combination of military action from without and a revolt organised by the local Filiki Eteria chapter break the Aragonese lines and the triumphant Greek forces enter the city. Peasants across Greece rise against their colonial landlords and butcher them.
1858 - Athens falls to the nationalist Greeks as the main mass of the Army of Liberation moves further South and revolutionaries in the Peloponnese complete their conquest of the peninsula. By July, all organized resistance has vanished. Greece is once again free. Pockets of colonial resistance remain, but they are crushed wherever they are found. Several major naval raids are also repelled.
1859 - Greece recognized.
1860-1864 - Over the four years after the revolution, a new national government based on democracy for all and a strong central state is constructed. Italians and Aragonese are systematically rounded up and exchanged with their home governments for pillaged cultural treasures. If their governments fail to play ball, their expats are hanged in public.
1866 - The government begins aggressively promoting Greek culture, spending immense sums and whipping up large international charitable donations to help recover the lost glories of the nation from its golden age. The Acropolis is restored to its former glory, the Oracle of Delphi is turned into a tourist site, and dozens of museums showcasing local and national archaeological finds are opened across the nation. Large sums are also spent on restoring the Orthodox Church, which has suffered after decades of abuse by foreign Catholics.
1880 - The government, after threat of another peasant revolt, begins actively building better lives for peasants through a variety of economic policies. Equipment is sold at cheap prices, low-interest microloans are tendered by the government, and new soil is sought for constantly. Trainers are sent into the countryside to help the peasants learn better agricultural techniques and as such improve their lives.
1887 - Construction on a canal connecting the Aegean to the Ionian via the Isthmus of Corinth begins.
1890 - The Isthmian Canal is finished, drastically increasing ease of access for populations on both sides of the new waterway.
1892 - Border clashes with the Latins over the Aegean isles and Thrace set the population on edge, kicking off a major round of military spending and resulting in the construction of new naval assets and an impressive trench line across the border with Latin Thracia. Fortifications are also built on the border with Bulgaria.
1895 - Renegade military elements attempt a coup d'etat in order to install a Catholic monarchy. This is crushed after several hours of fighting in Athens, but leads to the creation of the Republican Guard and a closer union between Orthodox Church and Greek Republic.
1896 - Policy of Reconciliation instituted, in which Greece begins to try and woo Aragon and the Anglois in order to gain access to their markets and military hardware. An apology for the mass slaughter of innocent Aragonese during the revolution is issued.
1899 - The idea of a Thracian canal at the territory's narrowest point in order to bypass Constantinople and gain unfettered access to the Black Sea is floated and is approved in a national referendum.
1900 - An insurgency in Thrace begins, aimed at recreating the defunct Kingdom and from there unifying with Bulgaria. The military is deployed in large numbers. Unfortunately, the plans to construct the Canal are put on hold due to the continuing violence and lack of security in the area.
1901-1905 - The guerrilla warfare rages on in Thrace, with brutal conflicts between Greek nationalists and separatist forces tearing each other apart.
1906 - After a long and bitter campaign, the Greek army emerges triumphant in Thrace. The insurgency is decisively broken, leaving the Greek army hardened and battle-ready. The general consensus among the population is to blame Bulgaria for everything. Border defenses within the mountains of the North are hardened and the army is drastically expanded.


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RP Sample:
“Attention, labourers!”, the tannoy blasted downwards into the massive blanket of workers as they slogged into the Angelus Factory Complex, Subsector 37. “Attention, labourers! For the seventy-sixth consecutive month, the Breean Board of Directors announced an average corporate profit rating of over 90%, with overheads and wages making up less than 10% of total expenses. Average wealth has grown by 70%. Of this growth, 90% is concentrated in the entrepreneurial classes. Work hard, and you may one day join them!”

Not a single worker, man or woman, looked upwards at the loudspeakers as they blasted their message down to the masses.

“Basic exports of goods such as refrigerators, rifles, cars, and medical equipment to Vanparia have tripled. Our ore processing has doubled. Glass made of the great deserts which surround the city pulls in an annual profit of almost one trillion dollars for corporations such as the Gemini Conglomerate, run from our glorious brother-state of Kaarethiel, and the Vanparian Imperial Investment Corporation, a state-owned enterprise from across the border. Every hour, six hundred billion dollars worth of trade goods flow through our port, either upriver and out to Istanistan and Pandora or inwards to Vanparia, Stadt, and Recheve.”

Within the shuffling masses, an old man, frail and starved, ceased shuffling for a moment and toppled to the ground. Nobody stopped to help him. They simply flowed around him, wary of the whips and guns of the corporate security guards and National Police in the watchtowers above them.

“Ours is a city of great justice and great splendour. Our militia, staffed by the common man and led by the daring and the rich, is the shield of the city. Our National Police, hardened and dutiful, is the bulwark of the State. And Corporate Security, loyal and true, is the bulwark of capital, greatest of all virtues of this city. Together these forces defend us from all enemies – be they exterior foes, such as Telemarcian statist-imperialists and Greater Istanistani Socialist provocateurs, or internal subversives, such as trade unionists and wreckers. They defend, together, YOUR freedoms, YOUR liberties.”

With a tortured howl, a whistle sounded its dreary call to arms. The forty-meter gates of the Inner Complex groaned open, admitting the tide of life-weary workers and their rifle-toting chaperones.

“Be proud, labourers, to be the productive base of the greatest city in the East and the world’s busiest seaport. You stand, here, at the junction of Pandora, Tuvhalia, and Favoria, sustaining them all. Breeans started with nothing, but now they are the greatest people on Earth. Guided in a meritocratic fashion by the most intelligent, the hardest working, and the most ruthless, our city will some day, through the ties of commerce and banking, be foremost in the entire world. Feel proud, workers – nay, feel privileged – to bend your backs to such a magnificent task.

Remember our credo as you bend your backs to your own advancement. Remember our nation’s motto, and let it echo through your soul.

For the Corporate Board! For prosperity! For Bree!”

Nobody had paid any attention. They simply shuffled, looked down, and boiled in their own hatred for their masters, most of which were foreigners, and their enforcers, many of them Vanparian ex-Legionaries recruited out of Stadt.

They did nothing today. No one person would stand up. Fear, for now, outweighed hatred.

But tomorrow?

Maybe someone would light a spark. Maybe someone would take a stand. Maybe someone would rise up through the dreary smogs and the grime-choked world they lived and face down the ravages of unrestrained capitalism, absolute inequality, and the dictatorship of the city’s foreign overlords. Maybe a ray of light would cut through the wall of smog and fire which forever veiled the sun and created an eternal half-night.

Maybe there would be a change.

Maybe there would be a revolution.

Maybe.

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:14 pm

Greater Istanistan wrote:
Generic Info
Nation Name: Republic of Greece
Symbols: Orthodox Cross, Double-Headed Eagle, Dolphin,
Homeland Population: 3.4 Million (including Thrace, Ionian islands)
Imperial Population: 0 - no colonies
Location/Claims: Location: 39 - harbors semi-serious territorial aspirations towards portions of Western Anatolia and Macedonia which are unlikely to be acted on due to sheer impracticality
Capital City: Athens

Government Info
Government Type: Unitary Presidential Republic
Brief Explanation of Government: The government is relatively simple, with most power being centralized in the state apparatus. The franchise has been extended to all citizens of the Republic, leaving its politics dominated by the peasant masses that populate it. A Hellenic Assembly elected through proportional representation theoretically has legislative power, but the tendency for the President to be a military-backed populist strongman leaves them a paper tiger unwilling to contradict his will. The court system is relatively independent, however, as the legal profession is a firm bastion of liberalism and is more than willing to duke it out with the President in the political arena if he oversteps his bounds. Most of the population lives in agrarian communities which are typically run in all but name by the Orthodox Church, where locals elect leadership but the priesthood forms the decision-making upper crust.

Both governments and the extremely powerful Church tend towards pro-peasant politics, running large welfare programs and seeking to improve infrastructure and industry in order to benefit the peasants. The landowning elite which dominates so much of the normal Balkan political order was mostly Italian and was wiped out in the revolution and succeeding social chaos, leaving Radical politics the order of the day.
Ideology: Pan-Hellenism, Populism, Nationalism, Radicalism, Liberalism
Leader/s: Major-General Sotiris Michelakos, President of the Republic of Greece, Representative of the Hellenes, and Protector of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchy

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: The population of the Republic of Greece is mostly composed of ethnic Greeks who typically worship at Greek Orthodox churces. The majority (roughly 65%) are farmers who eke out a living within Greece's limited arable land growing corn and wheat. In the last few decades, the government has made a serious effort to promote the growing of cash crops (growing the export sector and bringing money to the peasants), subsidize collective farms (in order to consolidate unproductive microfundi into more viable and economically useful large structures), and aggressively modernize agricultural techniques in order to aid the peasants. As a result, the average Greek farmer is relatively well-off, but constantly wary that something will come to drag them back to the 1840s. The rural citizens are typically social conservatives, wary of violent change or the return of more foreign overlords. As such, when conditions become dissatisfying they have a tendency to pick up their rifles and shoot at the nearest government officials until their fears are assuaged. By contrast, the steadily growing urban population, particularly in the North and along the coasts, is extremely cosmopolitan. Aragonese sailors mingle with Anglois vacationers and Malmuk merchants, bringing diverse cultural viewpoints to the urban areas that were once the birthplace of Western civilization and culture. City-dwellers tend to be far more liberal than their rural cousins, having been exposed to a far wider view of the world. They form the educated elite of the nation, and while the peasants dominate national discourse and culture it is the urbanites who get elected and make up the well-publicized outwards face of the nation.
Religion: The dominant religion is Greek Orthodoxy, as almost all citizens are adherents to it. The Greek Patriarchate is an integral part of the national identity, with the government using it as a bludgeon to whip the population into a nationalist fervour whenever any one of the nation's hostile neighbors commences saber-rattling and seeks to annex Greek land. The Orthodox Church also plays a huge role in civil society, forming a huge pressure network aimed at removing oppression of the common folk and channeling wealth into the hands of the poorest so as to retain its social relevance and popularity in a generally Liberal state. There are pockets of Bulgarian Orthodoxy and Catholicism in Thrace, where the Latins and Bulgarians are more influential, and in the South and Northwest several Sunni Islamic communities exist, mostly made up of Mameluke and Albanian expats and immigrants. Finally, the cities have a decently-sized Jewish minority.
Ethnicity: As a Greek ethnic nationalist state, it makes sense that the vast majority of the country is made up of Greeks. However, a wide variety of groups including Turks, Bulgars, Roma, Jews, Albanians, Arabs, Italians, and a smattering of assorted Western European philhellenes also populate the country.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Greeks
Other Cultures: See above list of minorities under ethnicity - note, however, that with the exception of Italians, who were left behind by the colonial government, most of these groups are not actively hated. Some, such as Bulgarians, are suppressed to a greater extent because of the ambitions of their respective governments in regards to Greek territory.

Military Info
Army:

Hellenic Army

The Hellenic Army is the primary military force of the nation and receives extremely high levels of investment from the government due to the recent Thracian insurgency and the ever-present threat of mass foreign invasion. It is designed to be a blunt force weapon, deployed en masse. In peacetime, it is also used to construct infrastructure and build the nation up. This dual use allows an unusually large force to be deployed.

Total troops: 140,000

1st Division (Eastern Thrace): 20,000
2nd Division (Western Thrace): 15,000
3rd Division (Thessaloniki, Western Macedonia Region): 20,000
4th Division (Eastern Macedonia Region): 15,000
5th Division (North Thessalia): 12,000
6th Division (South Thessalia): 10,000
7th Division (Arcadia): 10,000
8th Division (East Peloponnesia): 12,000
9th Division (Epirus): 16,000
Aegean Provisional Division (2000 troops each for the Cyclades, N. East Aegean, Sporades, Dodecannese, and Argo-Saronic Gulf island chains)

Republican Guard:

A special unit of 30,000 elite troops tasked with defending the capitol and the nearby areas. Sworn solely to the President, it serves as a counterweight to all other power blocs within the nation and is charged with holding to the last the cradle of Greek democracy. This force is recruited solely from volunteers and undergoes brutal training. Its discipline is all but unbreakable, and its equipment is the finest money can buy. The only weakness it has is a tendency towards political meddling which is tolerated by the peasantry as the cost of having a secure Greece.

1st Special Division (Attica): 14,000
2nd Special Division (South Evia): 10,000
Periclean Guard (Athens): 6,000

Klephts:

In times of trouble and occupation, the peasants of Greece tend to engage in patriotic banditry, preying on foreign troops and collaborators thereof in order to save their homeland and Church while enriching themselves along the way. Rather than discourage this, the Greek government has actively attempted to encourage peasants to hone their shooting skills and learn the land features better. They know that some day a fair bit of Greece may be occupied again, at which point it is only prudent to have a pre-built insurgent army in place. This also leaves the army with a sizable force of reservists capable of bolstering its ranks in case of combat loss.

Navy: (branches, number of troops, quality of navy, etc,)

Although Greece is currently too poor a nation to construct a massive fleet, its navy is still a respectable force capable of trouncing any one of its regional foes. Its sailors are experienced and hardy, often drawn from the merchant marine.

Sailors: 50,000

Pre-Dreadnought Battleships: 1
Armoured Cruisers: 2
Destroyers: 15
Submarines: 2
Transports: 12

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Greek economy is quite bipolar. Within the cities, a thriving trade sector based on Mediterranean commerce and export fuels a steady industrial boom and growing lower/middle classes. Cities such as Athens and Corinth resemble any Western European metropolises. Within the countryside, however, peasants work to produce cash crops and feed their families within collective farms or their own smallholdings. They live as they have for centuries. Their conditions are far better than they ever have been before and continue to further improve, but at the same time nobody can be sure if they are improving fast enough.
Goals: Continue industrialization/urbanization, maintain Greek cultural stability, construct Thracian canal, deflect foreign territorial ambitions, build military up, naturalize and integrate minorities within the nation in order to prevent repeat of Thracian revolt
History:

1840s - In response to increased taxation and oppression by its foreign occupiers (spurred on, of course, by the massive German armies pounding at their borders), Greek peasants begin their old habit of forming roving bands and shooting at foreigners. As this happens every couple decades, it goes unremarked.
1853 - The peasant insurgency turns from a small problem to a major mess as a new element comes into play. Referring to itself as the Filiki Eteria, a secretive Greek nationalist society based in Odessa begins using its extensive contacts among the Greek diaspora and the global philhellene population to finance revolts in the cities and organize the peasant population. The foreigners, exhausted by their wars against the Germans, are ill prepared to resist or stop the problems caused by the Filiki.
1854 - By the time the colonialists are able to begin organizing a resistance, it is too late. The population of Thessaloniki rises up, armed citizens engaging in gun battles with Genoan troops in the streets. Meanwhile, the entirety of Greek Macedonia rumbles with unrest as the peasants put down their plows and pick up their rifles. The economy begins a sharp decline as banditry and food hoarding spread across the nation.
1855 - The colonial governor of Athens is blown up using a powder-keg, along with a fair bit of the governor's palace and several key officials. Revolver-toting assassins roam the streets of the cities shooting down soldiers and occupation officials wherever they are found, spurred on by strong alcohol and stronger national pride. Outright warfare rages on in the North. Thessaloniki has been captured entirely by insurgents and a provisional government has been set up. A Greek Army of Liberation, composed of both local patriots and international volunteers fighting in the name of Slavic freedom or Hellenic independence, commences combat operations and begins bludgeoning its way into the Kingdom of Thrace and Westwards into the Albanian-claimed areas.
1856 - In a surprising coup de main, the Army of Liberation liberates several Genoan naval ships and begins systematically annihilating the Genoan colonies of the Aegean Sea. The Kingdom of Thrace collapses and is declared part of the burgeoning Republic of Greece. The Albanian rule doesn't last much longer, with Greek armies and opportunistic Aragonese colonial forces moving into their territory and grabbing all the land they can. Using the bombing in Athens as a prime example, Greek patriots all over the nation proceed to burn down or blow up as many administrative buildings as possible. Grenades tossed into cafes full of colonial bureaucrats are a new favourite.
1857 - A massive revolt in the Peloponnese Peninsula involving hundreds of thousands of enraged peasants breaks out. The Venetian government is almost powerless to stop the explosion of the people's will - or, for that matter, the explosion of a fire ship within the harbour of Kalamata that knocks most of their in-area naval units out. After several ferocious naval engagements, Greek ships force the Piraeus and land thousands of troops a few miles from Athens, which they immediately march for. Genoese resistance crumbles. Riots break out in Trikala, with city-dwellers hanging as many Aragonese as they can find from lamp-posts or shooting them in the streets. The Army of Liberation's march Southwards is brought to a halt at Larissa, where the majority of the in-area Aragonese units are fortified. After a nearly three-month siege, a combination of military action from without and a revolt organised by the local Filiki Eteria chapter break the Aragonese lines and the triumphant Greek forces enter the city. Peasants across Greece rise against their colonial landlords and butcher them.
1858 - Athens falls to the nationalist Greeks as the main mass of the Army of Liberation moves further South and revolutionaries in the Peloponnese complete their conquest of the peninsula. By July, all organized resistance has vanished. Greece is once again free. Pockets of colonial resistance remain, but they are crushed wherever they are found. Several major naval raids are also repelled.
1859 - Greece recognized.
1860-1864 - Over the four years after the revolution, a new national government based on democracy for all and a strong central state is constructed. Italians and Aragonese are systematically rounded up and exchanged with their home governments for pillaged cultural treasures. If their governments fail to play ball, their expats are hanged in public.
1866 - The government begins aggressively promoting Greek culture, spending immense sums and whipping up large international charitable donations to help recover the lost glories of the nation from its golden age. The Acropolis is restored to its former glory, the Oracle of Delphi is turned into a tourist site, and dozens of museums showcasing local and national archaeological finds are opened across the nation. Large sums are also spent on restoring the Orthodox Church, which has suffered after decades of abuse by foreign Catholics.
1880 - The government, after threat of another peasant revolt, begins actively building better lives for peasants through a variety of economic policies. Equipment is sold at cheap prices, low-interest microloans are tendered by the government, and new soil is sought for constantly. Trainers are sent into the countryside to help the peasants learn better agricultural techniques and as such improve their lives.
1887 - Construction on a canal connecting the Aegean to the Ionian via the Isthmus of Corinth begins.
1890 - The Isthmian Canal is finished, drastically increasing ease of access for populations on both sides of the new waterway.
1892 - Border clashes with the Latins over the Aegean isles and Thrace set the population on edge, kicking off a major round of military spending and resulting in the construction of new naval assets and an impressive trench line across the border with Latin Thracia. Fortifications are also built on the border with Bulgaria.
1895 - Renegade military elements attempt a coup d'etat in order to install a Catholic monarchy. This is crushed after several hours of fighting in Athens, but leads to the creation of the Republican Guard and a closer union between Orthodox Church and Greek Republic.
1896 - Policy of Reconciliation instituted, in which Greece begins to try and woo Aragon and the Anglois in order to gain access to their markets and military hardware. An apology for the mass slaughter of innocent Aragonese during the revolution is issued.
1899 - The idea of a Thracian canal at the territory's narrowest point in order to bypass Constantinople and gain unfettered access to the Black Sea is floated and is approved in a national referendum.
1900 - An insurgency in Thrace begins, aimed at recreating the defunct Kingdom and from there unifying with Bulgaria. The military is deployed in large numbers. Unfortunately, the plans to construct the Canal are put on hold due to the continuing violence and lack of security in the area.
1901-1905 - The guerrilla warfare rages on in Thrace, with brutal conflicts between Greek nationalists and separatist forces tearing each other apart.
1906 - After a long and bitter campaign, the Greek army emerges triumphant in Thrace. The insurgency is decisively broken, leaving the Greek army hardened and battle-ready. The general consensus among the population is to blame Bulgaria for everything. Border defenses within the mountains of the North are hardened and the army is drastically expanded.


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RP Sample:
“Attention, labourers!”, the tannoy blasted downwards into the massive blanket of workers as they slogged into the Angelus Factory Complex, Subsector 37. “Attention, labourers! For the seventy-sixth consecutive month, the Breean Board of Directors announced an average corporate profit rating of over 90%, with overheads and wages making up less than 10% of total expenses. Average wealth has grown by 70%. Of this growth, 90% is concentrated in the entrepreneurial classes. Work hard, and you may one day join them!”

Not a single worker, man or woman, looked upwards at the loudspeakers as they blasted their message down to the masses.

“Basic exports of goods such as refrigerators, rifles, cars, and medical equipment to Vanparia have tripled. Our ore processing has doubled. Glass made of the great deserts which surround the city pulls in an annual profit of almost one trillion dollars for corporations such as the Gemini Conglomerate, run from our glorious brother-state of Kaarethiel, and the Vanparian Imperial Investment Corporation, a state-owned enterprise from across the border. Every hour, six hundred billion dollars worth of trade goods flow through our port, either upriver and out to Istanistan and Pandora or inwards to Vanparia, Stadt, and Recheve.”

Within the shuffling masses, an old man, frail and starved, ceased shuffling for a moment and toppled to the ground. Nobody stopped to help him. They simply flowed around him, wary of the whips and guns of the corporate security guards and National Police in the watchtowers above them.

“Ours is a city of great justice and great splendour. Our militia, staffed by the common man and led by the daring and the rich, is the shield of the city. Our National Police, hardened and dutiful, is the bulwark of the State. And Corporate Security, loyal and true, is the bulwark of capital, greatest of all virtues of this city. Together these forces defend us from all enemies – be they exterior foes, such as Telemarcian statist-imperialists and Greater Istanistani Socialist provocateurs, or internal subversives, such as trade unionists and wreckers. They defend, together, YOUR freedoms, YOUR liberties.”

With a tortured howl, a whistle sounded its dreary call to arms. The forty-meter gates of the Inner Complex groaned open, admitting the tide of life-weary workers and their rifle-toting chaperones.

“Be proud, labourers, to be the productive base of the greatest city in the East and the world’s busiest seaport. You stand, here, at the junction of Pandora, Tuvhalia, and Favoria, sustaining them all. Breeans started with nothing, but now they are the greatest people on Earth. Guided in a meritocratic fashion by the most intelligent, the hardest working, and the most ruthless, our city will some day, through the ties of commerce and banking, be foremost in the entire world. Feel proud, workers – nay, feel privileged – to bend your backs to such a magnificent task.

Remember our credo as you bend your backs to your own advancement. Remember our nation’s motto, and let it echo through your soul.

For the Corporate Board! For prosperity! For Bree!”

Nobody had paid any attention. They simply shuffled, looked down, and boiled in their own hatred for their masters, most of which were foreigners, and their enforcers, many of them Vanparian ex-Legionaries recruited out of Stadt.

They did nothing today. No one person would stand up. Fear, for now, outweighed hatred.

But tomorrow?

Maybe someone would light a spark. Maybe someone would take a stand. Maybe someone would rise up through the dreary smogs and the grime-choked world they lived and face down the ravages of unrestrained capitalism, absolute inequality, and the dictatorship of the city’s foreign overlords. Maybe a ray of light would cut through the wall of smog and fire which forever veiled the sun and created an eternal half-night.

Maybe there would be a change.

Maybe there would be a revolution.

Maybe.

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Wow, I'm strangely 100% larger in the way of population...
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:17 pm

I used the historic Greek population as of 1908, then tacked on another 700k for additional territories held and fewer occupations by decaying bureaucratic theocracies.

I think your pop might be a bit high, considering that you only have half of Anatolia and none of the Rumelian lands or Arabian territories the Ottomans actually had as of this time.

That being said, I could also easily buff harder because I've instituted a sane agricultural policy and have had less time with random gunmen wandering the country side and starving cities out.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:25 pm

Greater Istanistan wrote:I used the historic Greek population as of 1908, then tacked on another 700k for additional territories held and fewer occupations by decaying bureaucratic theocracies.

I think your pop might be a bit high, considering that you only have half of Anatolia and none of the Rumelian lands or Arabian territories the Ottomans actually had as of this time.

That being said, I could also easily buff harder because I've instituted a sane agricultural policy and have had less time with random gunmen wandering the country side and starving cities out.

I only used Western Anatolias population.
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:31 pm

Where'd you get your info?
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:32 pm

Greater Istanistan wrote:I used the historic Greek population as of 1908, then tacked on another 700k for additional territories held and fewer occupations by decaying bureaucratic theocracies.

I think your pop might be a bit high, considering that you only have half of Anatolia and none of the Rumelian lands or Arabian territories the Ottomans actually had as of this time.

That being said, I could also easily buff harder because I've instituted a sane agricultural policy and have had less time with random gunmen wandering the country side and starving cities out.


Hello Greece, can we sway you away from Anglois influence, and persuade you to see the Slavs can have your back in every regard??

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Postby Greater Istanistan » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:35 pm

Easy. Get Bulgaria off my back and I'm in. If I can have that set of opponents calmed down, then I'd be more than happy to declare for you and against the Anglois and their pack of power-seeking allies, one of which militarily and politically supports the nation that wants to exterminate mine.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:37 pm

Greater Istanistan wrote:Where'd you get your info?

Ottoman censuses prior to WW1
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:39 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi ... man_Empire

These ones?

I assume you located all the vilayets of Western Anatolia and added the populations?

It should also be noted that the population would be smaller due to the lack of mass Islamic/Turkic movement into to the area which happened under the Ottomans.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:43 pm

Greater Istanistan wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

These ones?

I assume you located all the vilayets of Western Anatolia and added the populations?

It should also be noted that the population would be smaller due to the lack of mass Islamic/Turkic movement into to the area which happened under the Ottomans.

Replaced by Italians and Catholics respectivly
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:46 pm

Super-Llamaland wrote:Honestly I was tempted to say "stop trading with the Mughals and we'll throw weaponry at you" to Tibet, but that's like the easiest way to get rejected.

We are taking into consideration of the need to keep up with other millitary as well. Mughal to us is more advanced than Siam, so sorry.
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Postby Bujahla » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:49 pm

If y'all don't start using the fact that you have large pro-war parties in your government to your advantage/disadvantage, my special event (post-ponned till tomorrow cause making a resume that's fire when u have no experience takes longer than I thought) will be all y'all people doing things they shouldn't rather than massive nationalist riots in certain cities in a uber-nationalistic region.
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Postby Super-Llamaland » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:50 pm

I just got rejected by frigging Tibet.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:52 pm

Super-Llamaland wrote:I just got rejected by frigging Tibet.

Roasteeeeed


Well, Siam can't eat Tibet. The Mughals could, not that we'd want to.
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