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So, what do you think about the monsterous rulebook.

Perfect! Lets get started with it ASAP!
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It could use some editing.
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Postby Jute » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:59 am

Harkback Union wrote:So, does everyone like the way this alien planet looks like?

Yes, definitely, but maybe make the two greens more easily distinguishable, I couldn't make out any differences... sorry
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Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:59 am

Harkback Union wrote:So, does everyone like the way this alien planet looks like?


I really like the fog of war stuff going on. It helps with exploration and going for the new world stuff.




Looked up sonic resonance... ... ... yeah.

If scientific stuff is REALLY so important... I am going to make a new race. It really isn't worth it to go against the flow to create something of that sort. The effort I feel can be better used to make a entirely new species instead of trying to fiddle with race that really doesn't work without gellar field

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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:00 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:So, does everyone like the way this alien planet looks like?


I really like the fog of war stuff going on. It helps with exploration and going for the new world stuff.




Looked up sonic resonance... ... ... yeah.

If scientific stuff is REALLY so important... I am going to make a new race. It really isn't worth it to go against the flow to create something of that sort. The effort I feel can be better used to make a entirely new species instead of trying to fiddle with race that really doesn't work without gellar field


Yes, the eastern half is hidden... for now.

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Postby In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:03 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:So, does everyone like the way this alien planet looks like?


I really like the fog of war stuff going on. It helps with exploration and going for the new world stuff.




Looked up sonic resonance... ... ... yeah.

If scientific stuff is REALLY so important... I am going to make a new race. It really isn't worth it to go against the flow to create something of that sort. The effort I feel can be better used to make a entirely new species instead of trying to fiddle with race that really doesn't work without gellar field

dude. You don't need to change anything
I mean it's pretty ridiculous that we have walking trees....
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:04 am

In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
I really like the fog of war stuff going on. It helps with exploration and going for the new world stuff.




Looked up sonic resonance... ... ... yeah.

If scientific stuff is REALLY so important... I am going to make a new race. It really isn't worth it to go against the flow to create something of that sort. The effort I feel can be better used to make a entirely new species instead of trying to fiddle with race that really doesn't work without gellar field

dude. You don't need to change anything
I mean it's pretty ridiculous that we have walking trees....


Didn't you decide not to make them walk because it didn't make sense?
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Postby In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:05 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam wrote:dude. You don't need to change anything
I mean it's pretty ridiculous that we have walking trees....


Didn't you decide not to make them walk because it didn't make sense?

No they walk
My tree is incredibly symbiotic
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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:05 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam wrote:dude. You don't need to change anything
I mean it's pretty ridiculous that we have walking trees....


Didn't you decide not to make them walk because it didn't make sense?


Personally, G... we are walking on fine grounds when you are questioning Ents, of all things, for walking. That part of lore you should really let it slide.

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Postby In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:06 am

sooooo
Will the official IC be up soon?
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Postby In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:06 am

Oscalantine wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Didn't you decide not to make them walk because it didn't make sense?


Personally, G... we are walking on fine grounds when you are questioning Ents, of all things, for walking. That part of lore you should really let it slide.

thanx
i think
I'm not really sure....
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Postby Jute » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:06 am

In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Didn't you decide not to make them walk because it didn't make sense?

No they walk
My tree is incredibly symbiotic

They just walk slowly. But create a small earthquake each time they do a move...
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Ralnis » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:09 am

I am guessing that the Myr Xan are in the ice sheets?
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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:10 am

Jute wrote:
In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam wrote:No they walk
My tree is incredibly symbiotic

They just walk slowly. But create a small earthquake each time they do a move...


Probably.

The point is that if you are going TOO scientific, none of our apps makes sense. And if THAT's the case, I just want to make an executive decision based on authority invested in me by Hark to simply ignore some parts of science for the great flexibility and fun of the RP. Because... seriously, fiddling with legitimacy and creating plausible races are higher-tier stuff. I may like it, and I am sure others do as well. But ENFORCING others to abide by them just because we like them... that is something that kills activities in an RP more than anything.

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Postby Jute » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:12 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Jute wrote:They just walk slowly. But create a small earthquake each time they do a move...


Probably.

The point is that if you are going TOO scientific, none of our apps makes sense. And if THAT's the case, I just want to make an executive decision based on authority invested in me by Hark to simply ignore some parts of science for the great flexibility and fun of the RP. Because... seriously, fiddling with legitimacy and creating plausible races are higher-tier stuff. I may like it, and I am sure others do as well. But ENFORCING others to abide by them just because we like them... that is something that kills activities in an RP more than anything.

Yeah, like I said, I'm sure you could argue that mine are unrealistic or even impossible, too :P
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:13 am

Oscalantine wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Didn't you decide not to make them walk because it didn't make sense?


Personally, G... we are walking on fine grounds when you are questioning Ents, of all things, for walking. That part of lore you should really let it slide.


They aren't Ents though; they're trees that spew neurotoxins.

And Ents are from, yknow, a fantasy setting. So there is that. If anyone can give a plausible explanation for how trees walk (no biology degree, just a guess), I'd love to hear it.
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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:15 am

Ralnis wrote:I am guessing that the Myr Xan are in the ice sheets?

You'll be playing with special rules. You'll start with Cold blooded trait and your starting region will have +3 Food and +1 Raw materials. You cannot build gardens in ice sheet regions. Each piece of ice sheet south of a Coldlands or Treelands region counts as a separate region. You should choose one region to be south of.

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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:17 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
Personally, G... we are walking on fine grounds when you are questioning Ents, of all things, for walking. That part of lore you should really let it slide.


They aren't Ents though; they're trees that spew neurotoxins.

And Ents are from, yknow, a fantasy setting. So there is that. If anyone can give a plausible explanation for how trees walk (no biology degree, just a guess), I'd love to hear it.


Come'on, G. I like matching science, but it is really going far if you are asking for reasoning behind Ents walking. It doesn't conflict with godmode (unless Sci brings that to happen... in which case I am sorry and I was wrong and I should chastise myself and Sci for such a irresponsibility) and it makes enough remote sense in logic (we have species that has evolved from plants that lives in frigid icelands) in the flow of things in the RP.

I just feel like we are going into endless loop of science that we really don't need for the flow of RP. Sure, it is awesome to be logical. But... I just feel that it is counterproductive and contributes to lack of activity if it takes an entire thesis paper to explain why your race moves and or behaves a certain way.

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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:20 am

FYI:
Everyone starts with Repro I. Constitution I. Cognition I., Free special trait, Free survival trait. At the end of each era, Everyone gets 3 evo points to upgrade their species! (except for autotrophs, they get only 2 each era.) Evolution will stop at the end of the 4th Era but may resume later.

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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:20 am

Actually... Hark, since you are here, could you make this clear so that we don't have conflicts with this?

Just how "realistic" does a app have to be? Can there be a margin of fantasy to some of our apps (species biology) that, as long as it isn't game-breaking, can be accepted as Deus-Ex-Machina? On the same note, how much scientific logic would you like for our apps, both in biology itself as well as reasoning behind its evolution to sentient species in your world?
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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:22 am

Oscalantine wrote:Actually... Hark, since you are here, could you make this clear so that we don't have conflicts with this?

Just how "realistic" does a app have to be? Can there be a margin of fantasy to some of our apps (species biology) that, as long as it isn't game-breaking, can be accepted as Deus-Ex-Machina? On the same note, how much scientific logic would you like for our apps, both in biology itself as well as reasoning behind its evolution to sentient species in your world?


Fantasy... would be... Well, If there is a sci-fi way to explain it, it can be accepted.

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Postby Ralnis » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:23 am

Oscalantine wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
They aren't Ents though; they're trees that spew neurotoxins.

And Ents are from, yknow, a fantasy setting. So there is that. If anyone can give a plausible explanation for how trees walk (no biology degree, just a guess), I'd love to hear it.


Come'on, G. I like matching science, but it is really going far if you are asking for reasoning behind Ents walking. It doesn't conflict with godmode (unless Sci brings that to happen... in which case I am sorry and I was wrong and I should chastise myself and Sci for such a irresponsibility) and it makes enough remote sense in logic (we have species that has evolved from plants that lives in frigid icelands) in the flow of things in the RP.

I just feel like we are going into endless loop of science that we really don't need for the flow of RP. Sure, it is awesome to be logical. But... I just feel that it is counterproductive and contributes to lack of activity if it takes an entire thesis paper to explain why your race moves and or behaves a certain way.

*ahem* I am a hybrid race of a animal and a parasite plant in the icelands.
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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:23 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:Actually... Hark, since you are here, could you make this clear so that we don't have conflicts with this?

Just how "realistic" does a app have to be? Can there be a margin of fantasy to some of our apps (species biology) that, as long as it isn't game-breaking, can be accepted as Deus-Ex-Machina? On the same note, how much scientific logic would you like for our apps, both in biology itself as well as reasoning behind its evolution to sentient species in your world?


Fantasy... would be... Well, If there is a sci-fi way to explain it, it can be accepted.


Scifi as in ALL scifi, including well-established franchises like Startrek, Starwars, Warhammer 40k, Halo, etc?

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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:26 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
Fantasy... would be... Well, If there is a sci-fi way to explain it, it can be accepted.


Scifi as in ALL scifi, including well-established franchises like Startrek, Starwars, Warhammer 40k, Halo, etc?


Sci-fi including everything Sci-fi. Just keep in mind one important thing:
Your species Evolved ON THE PLANET!

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:26 am

Oscalantine wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
They aren't Ents though; they're trees that spew neurotoxins.

And Ents are from, yknow, a fantasy setting. So there is that. If anyone can give a plausible explanation for how trees walk (no biology degree, just a guess), I'd love to hear it.


Come'on, G. I like matching science, but it is really going far if you are asking for reasoning behind Ents walking. It doesn't conflict with godmode (unless Sci brings that to happen... in which case I am sorry and I was wrong and I should chastise myself and Sci for such a irresponsibility) and it makes enough remote sense in logic (we have species that has evolved from plants that lives in frigid icelands) in the flow of things in the RP.

I just feel like we are going into endless loop of science that we really don't need for the flow of RP. Sure, it is awesome to be logical. But... I just feel that it is counterproductive and contributes to lack of activity if it takes an entire thesis paper to explain why your race moves and or behaves a certain way.


Haha I'm hardly talking thesis paper. Just a bit of logic; if we have races using tachyon interactions to pull giant limbs around, we might as well just go full fantasy- but that doesn't seem to be the point of this RP. We're going to have these arguments later when someone fights a battle against Ents and they sprint at 7 miles per hour, so we might as well smooth out any kinks that we can now, if possible.

There are plenty of unrealistic points in our apps; we've all made races that didn't exist, and don't. Everything we write up has to be unrealistic from that standpoint. But there are simple matters of common sense that should be thought about; should Ents be able to move quickly, or only as slowly as their turgor pressure? Should dark energy fields protect armies? Should there be immortal biological races?

Things like that will be points of contention later- getting them out of the way while we can will make things easier later.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:27 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
Fantasy... would be... Well, If there is a sci-fi way to explain it, it can be accepted.


Scifi as in ALL scifi, including well-established franchises like Startrek, Starwars, Warhammer 40k, Halo, etc?


Heh. Calling the Force scifi is like calling Tolkien historical fiction.
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Postby Oscalantine » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:31 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
Scifi as in ALL scifi, including well-established franchises like Startrek, Starwars, Warhammer 40k, Halo, etc?


Heh. Calling the Force scifi is like calling Tolkien historical fiction.


You and me both. That is not what I am saying. I was just making a reference so that it looks like a complete list instead of something offscope... plus, if George Lucas comes here, I don't want to be force-choked from comfort of my own home.

About your other post... yes, you do have a point. But does one REALLY have to explain that in science? I feel like that is where I would leave things there. Personally, I like approaching the RPCs with a grain of salt that they won't abuse the flexibility that is allowed. If they do, I will personally take responsibility as co-OP who actually allowed this to happen and annoy the said perpetrator to the ends of the Earth to fix this said wrongs. Unless that happens, though... I feel like asking why Ents walk is too much science... no offense.

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