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Paketo
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Postby Paketo » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:12 pm

Senator Free would be glad to help swing North Carolina his way. he is the popular up and coming senator with most of his support coming from the middle class families
I'm a Pinarchist, sue me North Carolina is best Carolina States rights is best rights
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Oh god, the universe will explode, everyone to your bunkers

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:12 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Ok who is McCall, and who is Buswell.

I am McCall, Republican Texas Senator.

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:13 pm

Vermont is basically Washington DC no.2 right now for the Democrats

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Brutii Rebels
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Postby Brutii Rebels » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:15 pm

Buswell is moderate/liberal
Hes anti gun control. Supports deregulation for small businesses. But hes pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, etc. He gots enough qualities to swing some conservative independents towards him, and with the support of Munsen hes got the liberal vote

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Brutii Rebels
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Postby Brutii Rebels » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:15 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Vermont is basically Washington DC no.2 right now for the Democrats

Vermonts never flipping from blue. Well honestly if Bernie ran in real life Im almost certain he would win the state, even as an independent

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:17 pm

Brutii Rebels wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Vermont is basically Washington DC no.2 right now for the Democrats

Vermonts never flipping from blue. Well honestly if Bernie ran in real life Im almost certain he would win the state, even as an independent

Yes! I wish Bernie would run, though for an entirely different reason than his liberal supporters.

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:17 pm

My character is former Democrat now independent. His ratings are through the roof, he is aggressively anti Republican though.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:51 pm

I can see McCall doing something like this. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4pyOM7vdU

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Pantorrum
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Postby Pantorrum » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:51 pm

http://s4.postimg.org/lliaswo8d/Map_Political_1.png

This is my prediction for the Presidential Election.
I expect to pass through this world but once. Any good, therefore, that I can do or any kindness I can show to any fellow creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer or neglect it for I shall not pass this way again- Etienne de Grellet du Mabillier
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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:52 pm

You guys don't give Revan enough credit in Florida.

He was a longtime State-House Representative and for a few years, the Florida House of Reps Speaker of the House. He's a Cuban-American, so he'll have access to the crucial hispanic vote.
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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:52 pm

Who, if anyone, is Buswell running with?
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:53 pm

What about the federalist party?

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Pantorrum
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Postby Pantorrum » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:55 pm

Even if your candidate beats McCall (Cough cough...not happening...cough cough), you will lose any hope of taking any swing states like Ohio (because Ulmen won't support you, it looks bad for his re-election as a representative) and Virginia.
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I expect to pass through this world but once. Any good, therefore, that I can do or any kindness I can show to any fellow creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer or neglect it for I shall not pass this way again- Etienne de Grellet du Mabillier
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If you support Capitalism put this in your Sig.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:55 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:What about the federalist party?



People aren't taking into account the Federalist voters. It's been a faction IC for about 10 years, and we're known as the most successful third party in history ( we've elected around 5 Senators during one session).

The Federalist Party is good at coalescing the moderates to elect a Presidential ticket, it completely sucks at House elections, but does good in Senatorial elections. We've been looking to elect a Federalist governor in one of our bigger support states, like Florida.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:56 pm

I am currently thinking about which Democrat I should officially endorse Buswell or Clark.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:57 pm

Pantorrum wrote:Even if your candidate beats McCall in the primaries (Cough cough...not happening...cough cough), you will lose any hope of taking any swing states like Ohio (because Ulmen won't support you, it looks bad for his re-election as a representative) and Virginia.


I'm quite aware of that. Revan is going to use this as a stepping stone. Forcing a House vote would be groundbreaking historically. Alot of people would re-think their alignments if they saw what a third party could do. It's like the Tea Party, but instead of going batshit insanely conservative, we appeal to the moderates and successful for more then one election.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:58 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I am currently thinking about which Democrat I should officially endorse Buswell or Clark.


Buswell seems good.

Who is he running with?
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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The Starlight
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Postby The Starlight » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:00 pm

May I suggest that all presidential hopefuls and candidates post their platforms here, in the OOC, so we all don't have to ask questions? Make sure you include all the controversial topics, like the environment, foreign policy, immigration, gay marriage, abortion, healthcare and such.
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Call me Star
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"Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination"
"Strength does not make one capable of rule. It makes one capable of service"
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world"
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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:01 pm

My character is not running so not my problem.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:01 pm

The Starlight wrote:May I suggest that all presidential hopefuls and candidates post their platforms here, in the OOC, so we all don't have to ask questions? Make sure you include all the controversial topics, like the environment, foreign policy, immigration, gay marriage, abortion, healthcare and such.

Yes, I would though in IC McCall hasn't announced yet.

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:03 pm

My character is strong in New England, whatever Democrat he endorses will almost be guaranteed Vermont, and be at a significant advantage in the rest of New England, seeing as no other New England governors are players.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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The Starlight
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Postby The Starlight » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:05 pm

Arlenton wrote:
The Starlight wrote:May I suggest that all presidential hopefuls and candidates post their platforms here, in the OOC, so we all don't have to ask questions? Make sure you include all the controversial topics, like the environment, foreign policy, immigration, gay marriage, abortion, healthcare and such.

Yes, I would though in IC McCall hasn't announced yet.

Still, it's only a matter of time. So if you're planning on doing it, please do.
Call me Star
Best High Fantasy RPer of '14 and '15
"Life before Death. Strength before Weakness. Journey before Destination"
"Strength does not make one capable of rule. It makes one capable of service"
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world"
Tri: NS's Tolkien incarnate
Lith: Twinky-toes, Lord of Elves, and the only man to enter Tolkien's Holy of Holies
Neros: A Star Among Men and a Tolkien force of nature in relation to Elves and Asgardians.
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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:08 pm

It should also be noted the Federalist platform really appeals to Moderate Christian Denominations. I'd say about half of the listed would be likely Federalists.

Mainline/Moderate denominations

The Association of Religion Data Archives considers these denominations to be mainline/moderate:

American Baptist Churches in the USA 1,442,824 members (2001)

Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) 804,842 members (2001)

Congregational Christian Churches, (not part of any national CCC body)

Episcopal Church in the United States of America 2,369,477 members

Estonian Evangelical Lutheran Church

Evangelical Lutheran Church in America 4,850,000 members (2007)

International Council of Community Churches 200,263 members (2000)

Latvian Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches 44,000 members (1998)

Moravian Church in America, Alaska Province

Moravian Church in America, Northern Province 24,650 members (2003)

Moravian Church in America, Southern Province 21,513 members (1991)

National Association of Congregational Christian Churches 65,569 members (2000)

North American Baptist Conference Presbyterian Church (USA) 2,300,000 members (2007)

Reformed Church in America 285,453 members (2001)

Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)

United Church of Christ 1,359,105 members (2001)

United Methodist Church 8,070,000 members (2006)

Half of those numbers divided by 4 = 12,394,955 votes. That's the best in history. That's not even counting Quakers, United Methodist Church & United Church of Christ.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:08 pm

The Starlight wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Yes, I would though in IC McCall hasn't announced yet.

Still, it's only a matter of time. So if you're planning on doing it, please do.

Alright, i'll get something set up.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:09 pm

Arlenton wrote:
The Starlight wrote:Still, it's only a matter of time. So if you're planning on doing it, please do.

Alright, i'll get something set up.



I'll try m8
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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