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Winnistan
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Postby Winnistan » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:38 pm

My plan is just to talk to Midwest farmers and other blue collar workers, like Virginian coal miners. I think I could secure some Midwest votes.

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:38 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Well, looks like the House of Representatives is going to pick the president for this election. That's a shame.

It depends on whether or not Revan can take Florida. But given that he's a strong third party candidate the odds of him taking any state is slim, though Florida is his best shot, though still the odds are against him there.

Even of Revan takes Florida, this vote will still turn into a tied race in the Electoral College. If that happens, the House gets to pick their guy (a Republican, going by the state divide in the graphs) and the senate will pick their guy (also a Republican).
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:39 pm

Anarchist States Of America wrote:Now I'm tempted to run for president lol

You said your character is a deist. That would really hurt your chances. A lot.

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:40 pm

Winnistan wrote:My plan is just to talk to Midwest farmers and other blue collar workers, like Virginian coal miners. I think I could secure some Midwest votes.

Both those groups are die-hard Republican in Presidential Elections.

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Postby Anarchist States Of America » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:40 pm

It depends How it is used. If I ran to get the Republican and Libertarian young votes I could have a shot. I could aslo press the fact the founding fathers were deists.
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Postby Anarchist States Of America » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:41 pm

Not to mention if I ran, as President or as a Vice Presidential Running Mate, Pennsylvania would be in the bag.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:42 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Arlenton wrote:It depends on whether or not Revan can take Florida. But given that he's a strong third party candidate the odds of him taking any state is slim, though Florida is his best shot, though still the odds are against him there.

Even of Revan takes Florida, this vote will still turn into a tied race in the Electoral College. If that happens, the House gets to pick their guy (a Republican, going by the state divide in the graphs) and the senate will pick their guy (also a Republican).

Oh yea you are right, but in this RP do the Republicans have enough house members in the enough of the states?

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Winnistan
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Postby Winnistan » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:44 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Winnistan wrote:My plan is just to talk to Midwest farmers and other blue collar workers, like Virginian coal miners. I think I could secure some Midwest votes.

Both those groups are die-hard Republican in Presidential Elections.

I know, but I'm going to try and appeal to them. I want the government to start supporting farmers financially, and help miners secure their rights.

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:44 pm

Anarchist States Of America wrote:Not to mention if I ran, as President or as a Vice Presidential Running Mate, Pennsylvania would be in the bag.

Not with your deism it wouldn't. And even excluding that, it would be far from it. Being from a swing state helps a bit, but it will never guarantee a win. Same goes for the Ohio Democrat.

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:45 pm

Winnistan wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Both those groups are die-hard Republican in Presidential Elections.

I know, but I'm going to try and appeal to them. I want the government to start supporting farmers financially, and help miners secure their rights.

So you are going to target Republicans and guarantee a Democrat win?

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:46 pm

Trying to get the federalists out of New Hampshire, and help the Democrats in the New England region.

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Postby Pantorrum » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:49 pm

Well, my candidate is very popular in Ohio, especially in the Cincinnati area. If he did some campaigning for McCall in Cincinnati and his district, he could probably swing the state for McCall in exchange for some favors. His district has 731,181 people. If enough of them are convinced to vote McCall by their trusted Representative, I think it might turn out that way.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:50 pm

Pantorrum wrote:Well, my candidate is very popular in Ohio, especially in the Cincinnati area. If he did some campaigning for McCall in Cincinnati and his district, he could probably swing the state for McCall in exchange for some favors. His district has 731,181 people. If enough of them are convinced to vote McCall by their trusted Representative, I think it might turn out that way.

Thank you.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:55 pm

Ok who is McCall, and who is Buswell.
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"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:56 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Even of Revan takes Florida, this vote will still turn into a tied race in the Electoral College. If that happens, the House gets to pick their guy (a Republican, going by the state divide in the graphs) and the senate will pick their guy (also a Republican).

Oh yea you are right, but in this RP do the Republicans have enough house members in the enough of the states?

That was what I was wondering. But going by ordinary elections and the current division, the Republicans have a great advantage. They appeal to the smaller states, and they generally win more of them. Seeing how the senate is Republican, the majority of states in the House is probably Republican as well.

But this whole process is going to turn the political scene really ugly. People are going to hate what happened there. People are going to despise the system for it, and they are going to complain. And complain is the weakest term I could find for it. It's going to suck. Balls.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:57 pm

Maybe promise electoral reform as one of your platforms.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:00 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Maybe promise electoral reform as one of your platforms.

Really, if I was made dictator of the US, that was what I would do. Reform the electoral system to something workable, put a maximum on the amount candidates could spend on their campaigns and abolish the elected judiciary. Then, I would retire to a farming estate outside Washington D.C. and watch the magic.
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Postby Alouite » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:02 pm

Brutii Rebels wrote:I like buswells chances, hes got decent support and with a conservative/moderate VP he might pick up a few tossup states

My Governor is a bit Moderate for a Democrat. He is anti-gun control.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:02 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Arlenton my character wants to help yours in your campaign he is better than the alternative of McCall.

Don't worry, if McCarthy Jr. runs, I should be able to crush him in the primaries no problem.

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Winnistan
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Postby Winnistan » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:03 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Winnistan wrote:I know, but I'm going to try and appeal to them. I want the government to start supporting farmers financially, and help miners secure their rights.

So you are going to target Republicans and guarantee a Democrat win?

No. I'm going to target blue collar workers and try to guarantee a Federalist win.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:05 pm

I am debating with McCarthy Jr.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Postby Pantorrum » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:05 pm

My representative would probably ask for two favors in return-
1. Help in his own election in 2016 as the 1st Districts representative.
2. McCall meeting with the Speaker of the House after the election to discuss giving Ulmen a position on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

Two small things for one big favor. :)
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:08 pm

Winnistan wrote:
Arlenton wrote:So you are going to target Republicans and guarantee a Democrat win?

No. I'm going to target blue collar workers and try to guarantee a Federalist win.

As in farmers and coal miners who vote Republican, with the latter voting GOP because their way of life is literally dependent on it? Unless you want to help out the Democrats you would need to balance that out with trying to appeal to urban industrial workers who vote Democrat.

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Postby Alouite » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:11 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Winnistan wrote:No. I'm going to target blue collar workers and try to guarantee a Federalist win.

As in farmers and coal miners who vote Republican, with the latter voting GOP because their way of life is literally dependent on it? Unless you want to help out the Democrats you would need to balance that out with trying to appeal to urban industrial workers who vote Democrat.

They are also considered blue collar.
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Postby Acro » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:11 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Ok who is McCall, and who is Buswell.

Buswell is a liberal/Moderate Democrat from Washington, who has the support of your Senator (Me :D)
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