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Bolovia
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Postby Bolovia » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:55 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Epraria wrote:

Ok first of how did this Napoleon figure manage to reunite Italy without getting crushed by a coalition of France, Italian States and Austria who really don't want their play ground ruined? How would neo-classicism revive a dead language? How would the Italians conquer their way to own half of the freaking Mediterranean without a massive coalition standing in the way? How would the Italians change the fact that the Copts are not a majority in Egypt or that while the Balkan peopl's hate Kebab they don't like other people either and with the age of nationalism comming that would leave the question of how they did not gain independence by 1991.

1: The Papal States (Where this Napoleone figure would come from has been historically allied to France, I see not why this would change with no threat to France, Austria was simply fought back with funding to other enemies of it, There have been more surprising victories than that in History.
-Neo-Classicalism: In this case it elevated to a Romanesque Nationalism that Deifies the Latin Culture, In the ways to Napoleon only with Latin instead of France, Where latin would be advanced as the natural language of the Italians, against the various dialects it would be used as a unifying force.
-The Copts are however a Huge Minority, and if other Christians came I would not doubt they would support them an topple their oppressors
-Same way the Occitans went in regards to the Balkans, The Promotion of Latin as the sole language of Empire, and Assimilating them or deporting some, The Balkans have historically been rather small in regards to the Population, and the Greeks would have a damned well near Deification in the new "Neo-Classicalism" so they would not be a problem especially in teh fight for Anatolia and their lost brethren.
-As well Egypt will be an Autonomous province governed by the Copts, while the rest of the Empire is ruled by the Graeco-Roman Elite (Roman meaning Romanized Italians who still embody the Italian culture but speak Latin. due to mass Literacy following the Industrial revolution.[/quote]
I've made a decision upon these controversial times, your idea of a new Rome is a go, however I ask for great reductions in your territory. You shall have Italy, dalmatia,coast of Yugoslavia leading to Albania,Cyprus, Crete, and Tunisia maybe I emphesize maybe Libya.

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Postby Epraria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:00 pm

Bolovia wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Ok first of how did this Napoleon figure manage to reunite Italy without getting crushed by a coalition of France, Italian States and Austria who really don't want their play ground ruined? How would neo-classicism revive a dead language? How would the Italians conquer their way to own half of the freaking Mediterranean without a massive coalition standing in the way? How would the Italians change the fact that the Copts are not a majority in Egypt or that while the Balkan peopl's hate Kebab they don't like other people either and with the age of nationalism comming that would leave the question of how they did not gain independence by 1991.

1: The Papal States (Where this Napoleone figure would come from has been historically allied to France, I see not why this would change with no threat to France, Austria was simply fought back with funding to other enemies of it, There have been more surprising victories than that in History.
-Neo-Classicalism: In this case it elevated to a Romanesque Nationalism that Deifies the Latin Culture, In the ways to Napoleon only with Latin instead of France, Where latin would be advanced as the natural language of the Italians, against the various dialects it would be used as a unifying force.
-The Copts are however a Huge Minority, and if other Christians came I would not doubt they would support them an topple their oppressors
-Same way the Occitans went in regards to the Balkans, The Promotion of Latin as the sole language of Empire, and Assimilating them or deporting some, The Balkans have historically been rather small in regards to the Population, and the Greeks would have a damned well near Deification in the new "Neo-Classicalism" so they would not be a problem especially in teh fight for Anatolia and their lost brethren.
-As well Egypt will be an Autonomous province governed by the Copts, while the rest of the Empire is ruled by the Graeco-Roman Elite (Roman meaning Romanized Italians who still embody the Italian culture but speak Latin. due to mass Literacy following the Industrial revolution.

I've made a decision upon these controversial times, your idea of a new Rome is a go, however I ask for great reductions in your territory. You shall have Italy, dalmatia,coast of Yugoslavia leading to Albania,Cyprus, Crete, and Tunisia maybe I emphesize maybe Libya.[/quote]
:meh: why did you have to feed the beast boss?
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:01 pm

Epraria wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Ok first of how did this Napoleon figure manage to reunite Italy without getting crushed by a coalition of France, Italian States and Austria who really don't want their play ground ruined? How would neo-classicism revive a dead language? How would the Italians conquer their way to own half of the freaking Mediterranean without a massive coalition standing in the way? How would the Italians change the fact that the Copts are not a majority in Egypt or that while the Balkan peopl's hate Kebab they don't like other people either and with the age of nationalism comming that would leave the question of how they did not gain independence by 1991.

1: The Papal States (Where this Napoleone figure would come from has been historically allied to France, I see not why this would change with no threat to France, Austria was simply fought back with funding to other enemies of it, There have been more surprising victories than that in History.
-Neo-Classicalism: In this case it elevated to a Romanesque Nationalism that Deifies the Latin Culture, In the ways to Napoleon only with Latin instead of France, Where latin would be advanced as the natural language of the Italians, against the various dialects it would be used as a unifying force.
-The Copts are however a Huge Minority, and if other Christians came I would not doubt they would support them an topple their oppressors
-Same way the Occitans went in regards to the Balkans, The Promotion of Latin as the sole language of Empire, and Assimilating them or deporting some, The Balkans have historically been rather small in regards to the Population, and the Greeks would have a damned well near Deification in the new "Neo-Classicalism" so they would not be a problem especially in teh fight for Anatolia and their lost brethren.
-As well Egypt will be an Autonomous province governed by the Copts, while the rest of the Empire is ruled by the Graeco-Roman Elite (Roman meaning Romanized Italians who still embody the Italian culture but speak Latin. due to mass Literacy following the Industrial revolution.

-Except France in this RP is Protestant and really doesn't like the Pope leading to them not liking the idea of a Papal States trying to unite Italy.
-I also see it hard for Latin just replace a language that had already replaced Latin everywhere in Italy. Just because it was the language of Rome didn't mean it would be seen as the true Italian language. It's harder than you think to replace languages.
-The Copts didn't rise up when Napoleon arrived, the copts didn't rise up when any major Christian power came. Why would the arrival of Italy-wank change anything?
-and of course that neglects that people are furiously stubborn to retain their own language. The Balkan people would not just stand there and have their language and culture taken from them without a bloody fight. The Greeks I also see would rather be independent and fight to unite all Greeks instead of being part of another Roman Empire.
-As the age of nationalism comes and colonialism falls those Arab territories including Egypt and Anatolia with it's Muslim majority would have revolted and gained independence a long time ago.[/quote]
Hoping the Quote works this time...
-Then accept a Secular leader who had no qualms with France, I don't see why they would be sl;ighted by that? The Austrians they didn't like, The Moslems people generally don't like, So a Country that is merely doing what the French people want without Frenchmen having to die.
-It is not when mass Literacy comes around and Latin is the only legal Language taught at schools.
-Napoleon like Muslims and was not a Catholic Liberator for Religion, but for French Interests.
-Did I say no fighting would occur? no there will have been plenty of insurgencies and rebellions, However this is what I call a balancing effect, And if the Roman Empire IS uniting all the Greeks then why should they have qualms, not only are they united with their brothers, They are part of Italian leadership...
-Anatolia and the Balkans are where the vast majourity of the Legions are located, Crushing revolts and Deporting turks to Kazakhstan is a prime priority of the Legions, Accept Romanization by the Muslims or be forced into Exile.
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The imperial canadian dutchy
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:02 pm

Epraria wrote:
Bolovia wrote:1: The Papal States (Where this Napoleone figure would come from has been historically allied to France, I see not why this would change with no threat to France, Austria was simply fought back with funding to other enemies of it, There have been more surprising victories than that in History.
-Neo-Classicalism: In this case it elevated to a Romanesque Nationalism that Deifies the Latin Culture, In the ways to Napoleon only with Latin instead of France, Where latin would be advanced as the natural language of the Italians, against the various dialects it would be used as a unifying force.
-The Copts are however a Huge Minority, and if other Christians came I would not doubt they would support them an topple their oppressors
-Same way the Occitans went in regards to the Balkans, The Promotion of Latin as the sole language of Empire, and Assimilating them or deporting some, The Balkans have historically been rather small in regards to the Population, and the Greeks would have a damned well near Deification in the new "Neo-Classicalism" so they would not be a problem especially in teh fight for Anatolia and their lost brethren.
-As well Egypt will be an Autonomous province governed by the Copts, while the rest of the Empire is ruled by the Graeco-Roman Elite (Roman meaning Romanized Italians who still embody the Italian culture but speak Latin. due to mass Literacy following the Industrial revolution.

I've made a decision upon these controversial times, your idea of a new Rome is a go, however I ask for great reductions in your territory. You shall have Italy, dalmatia,coast of Yugoslavia leading to Albania,Cyprus, Crete, and Tunisia maybe I emphesize maybe Libya.

:meh: why did you have to feed the beast boss?[/quote]
Greece and Libya...are kinda like Mega important...
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Postby Epraria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:07 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Epraria wrote:I've made a decision upon these controversial times, your idea of a new Rome is a go, however I ask for great reductions in your territory. You shall have Italy, dalmatia,coast of Yugoslavia leading to Albania,Cyprus, Crete, and Tunisia maybe I emphesize maybe Libya.

:meh: why did you have to feed the beast boss?

Greece and Libya...are kinda like Mega important...[/quote]
He gave you a final deal. Accept it or leave...
-As for the Papal States taking a secular leader is kind of silly by the fact it's the Papal States and even if they are secular France would not like the idea of a uniting Italy.
-Guerilla warfare and hate from the population would have lead to the Romans being thrown out of the Middle East by the 1960's-1970's. You can't hold territory if the populace hates you with all their guys especially if you try to destroy their religion and culture...
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:08 pm

Epraria wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote: :meh: why did you have to feed the beast boss?

Greece and Libya...are kinda like Mega important...

He gave you a final deal. Accept it or leave...
-As for the Papal States taking a secular leader is kind of silly by the fact it's the Papal States and even if they are secular France would not like the idea of a uniting Italy.
-Guerilla warfare and hate from the population would have lead to the Romans being thrown out of the Middle East by the 1960's-1970's. You can't hold territory if the populace hates you with all their guys especially if you try to destroy their religion and culture...[/quote]
Why are you so immensely Hostile? What the Fuck did I do to you?
And I'm discussing with him, regardless of if you viewed it as a final deal I am willing to trade land.
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Postby Epraria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:17 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Epraria wrote:Greece and Libya...are kinda like Mega important...

He gave you a final deal. Accept it or leave...
-As for the Papal States taking a secular leader is kind of silly by the fact it's the Papal States and even if they are secular France would not like the idea of a uniting Italy.
-Guerilla warfare and hate from the population would have lead to the Romans being thrown out of the Middle East by the 1960's-1970's. You can't hold territory if the populace hates you with all their guys especially if you try to destroy their religion and culture...

Why are you so immensely Hostile? What the Fuck did I do to you?
And I'm discussing with him, regardless of if you viewed it as a final deal I am willing to trade land.[/quote]
Yes I'm hostile. Might be because I've had a bad day but that's is beside the point is to have nothing to do with this. As for why i dislike your idea. You want to own half the Mediterranean as a reformed Roman Empire that uses Latin in 1991. Not only that but it's a massive wank... Now the OP's app is also a wank in many respects but he's the op... Now back to your wank. Not only is your Roman empire somehow created without any great powers trying to stop it but no one seems to care that it conquers half the Mediterranean and become a great power. Not only does it have perfect relations with the Greeks but the Evul muslums are being romanized without a problem in the world. Heck the Ottoman Empire was not even a match because Rome Strink. You even ignore the rest of the players apps.
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Postby Epraria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:21 pm

I might also be tired of you ELing the same thing every time.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Bolovia » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:24 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Epraria wrote:Greece and Libya...are kinda like Mega important...

He gave you a final deal. Accept it or leave...
-As for the Papal States taking a secular leader is kind of silly by the fact it's the Papal States and even if they are secular France would not like the idea of a uniting Italy.
-Guerilla warfare and hate from the population would have lead to the Romans being thrown out of the Middle East by the 1960's-1970's. You can't hold territory if the populace hates you with all their guys especially if you try to destroy their religion and culture...

Why are you so immensely Hostile? What the Fuck did I do to you?
And I'm discussing with him, regardless of if you viewed it as a final deal I am willing to trade land.[/quote]
My final deal:
1. Latin revival is limited to school teachings and mass.
2. Your territory is Italy, Coast of Yugoslavia and Albania, I will let you have Greece but there is an independence movement and constant insurgency that will put a strain on your economy and increasing war weariness. Plus you can have Tunisia thats it.
3. Epraria will direct you in your history to make it plausible for a revival of a Roman state.
4. In regards to economy once more efforts in Greece are tremendously hampering your growth,therefore your GDP cannot exceed 2.5 trillion dollars.
5. Your people will increasingly demand you abandon Greece altogether due too war weariness
Deal?

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Postby Epraria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:26 pm

Bolovia wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:He gave you a final deal. Accept it or leave...
-As for the Papal States taking a secular leader is kind of silly by the fact it's the Papal States and even if they are secular France would not like the idea of a uniting Italy.
-Guerilla warfare and hate from the population would have lead to the Romans being thrown out of the Middle East by the 1960's-1970's. You can't hold territory if the populace hates you with all their guys especially if you try to destroy their religion and culture...

Why are you so immensely Hostile? What the Fuck did I do to you?
And I'm discussing with him, regardless of if you viewed it as a final deal I am willing to trade land.

My final deal:
1. Latin revival is limited to school teachings and mass.
2. Your territory is Italy, Coast of Yugoslavia and Albania, I will let you have Greece but there is an independence movement and constant insurgency that will put a strain on your economy and increasing war weariness. Plus you can have Tunisia thats it.
3. Epraria will direct you in your history to make it plausible for a revival of a Roman state.
4. In regards to economy once more efforts in Greece are tremendously hampering your growth,therefore your GDP cannot exceed 2.5 trillion dollars.
5. Your people will increasingly demand you abandon Greece altogether due too war weariness
Deal?[/quote]
Thank you OP.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:28 pm

Bolovia wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:He gave you a final deal. Accept it or leave...
-As for the Papal States taking a secular leader is kind of silly by the fact it's the Papal States and even if they are secular France would not like the idea of a uniting Italy.
-Guerilla warfare and hate from the population would have lead to the Romans being thrown out of the Middle East by the 1960's-1970's. You can't hold territory if the populace hates you with all their guys especially if you try to destroy their religion and culture...

Why are you so immensely Hostile? What the Fuck did I do to you?
And I'm discussing with him, regardless of if you viewed it as a final deal I am willing to trade land.

My final deal:
1. Latin revival is limited to school teachings and mass.
2. Your territory is Italy, Coast of Yugoslavia and Albania, I will let you have Greece but there is an independence movement and constant insurgency that will put a strain on your economy and increasing war weariness. Plus you can have Tunisia thats it.
3. Epraria will direct you in your history to make it plausible for a revival of a Roman state.
4. In regards to economy once more efforts in Greece are tremendously hampering your growth,therefore your GDP cannot exceed 2.5 trillion dollars.
5. Your people will increasingly demand you abandon Greece altogether due too war weariness
Deal?[/quote]
5.) I cannot agree with due to the Mass Nationalistic Propaganda, similar to France during the Algerian war, and Can I just trade Albania for Libya? I mean similar population and I need something to feed my people, and most of my land is rocky and infertile
And Latin is an official Language.
-Also Can you make Like...The Arabs have an Independence movement as it made more sense then the traditionally friendly Italians and Greeks? Even Communists are more likely.
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Postby Epraria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:32 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Bolovia wrote:Why are you so immensely Hostile? What the Fuck did I do to you?
And I'm discussing with him, regardless of if you viewed it as a final deal I am willing to trade land.

My final deal:
1. Latin revival is limited to school teachings and mass.
2. Your territory is Italy, Coast of Yugoslavia and Albania, I will let you have Greece but there is an independence movement and constant insurgency that will put a strain on your economy and increasing war weariness. Plus you can have Tunisia thats it.
3. Epraria will direct you in your history to make it plausible for a revival of a Roman state.
4. In regards to economy once more efforts in Greece are tremendously hampering your growth,therefore your GDP cannot exceed 2.5 trillion dollars.
5. Your people will increasingly demand you abandon Greece altogether due too war weariness
Deal?

5.) I cannot agree with due to the Mass Nationalistic Propaganda, similar to France during the Algerian war, and Can I just trade Albania for Libya? I mean similar population and I need something to feed my people, and most of my land is rocky and infertile
And Latin is an official Language.
-Also Can you make Like...The Arabs have an Independence movement as it made more sense then the traditionally friendly Italians and Greeks? Even Communists are more likely.[/quote]
The mass propaganda in the Algerian war didn't really work now did it? And nationalistic movements can do wonders in agitation by the people in revolt. As for Libya feeding Italy... Are you serious? Albania is more fertile than libya which is a large desert.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:33 pm

Epraria wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:My final deal:
1. Latin revival is limited to school teachings and mass.
2. Your territory is Italy, Coast of Yugoslavia and Albania, I will let you have Greece but there is an independence movement and constant insurgency that will put a strain on your economy and increasing war weariness. Plus you can have Tunisia thats it.
3. Epraria will direct you in your history to make it plausible for a revival of a Roman state.
4. In regards to economy once more efforts in Greece are tremendously hampering your growth,therefore your GDP cannot exceed 2.5 trillion dollars.
5. Your people will increasingly demand you abandon Greece altogether due too war weariness
Deal?

5.) I cannot agree with due to the Mass Nationalistic Propaganda, similar to France during the Algerian war, and Can I just trade Albania for Libya? I mean similar population and I need something to feed my people, and most of my land is rocky and infertile
And Latin is an official Language.
-Also Can you make Like...The Arabs have an Independence movement as it made more sense then the traditionally friendly Italians and Greeks? Even Communists are more likely.

The mass propaganda in the Algerian war didn't really work now did it? And nationalistic movements can do wonders in agitation by the people in revolt. As for Libya feeding Italy... Are you serious? Albania is more fertile than libya which is a large desert.[/quote]

Libya was the Breadbasket of Rome, Due to irrigation and Supply and demand, The quality of the soil has not changed, nor has anything else but the need.
It damn well near did and in a REPUBLICAN and LIBERAL state, Not in a Fascist monarchy
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Postby Bolovia » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:34 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Bolovia wrote:Why are you so immensely Hostile? What the Fuck did I do to you?
And I'm discussing with him, regardless of if you viewed it as a final deal I am willing to trade land.

My final deal:
1. Latin revival is limited to school teachings and mass.
2. Your territory is Italy, Coast of Yugoslavia and Albania, I will let you have Greece but there is an independence movement and constant insurgency that will put a strain on your economy and increasing war weariness. Plus you can have Tunisia thats it.
3. Epraria will direct you in your history to make it plausible for a revival of a Roman state.
4. In regards to economy once more efforts in Greece are tremendously hampering your growth,therefore your GDP cannot exceed 2.5 trillion dollars.
5. Your people will increasingly demand you abandon Greece altogether due too war weariness
Deal?

5.) I cannot agree with due to the Mass Nationalistic Propaganda, similar to France during the Algerian war, and Can I just trade Albania for Libya? I mean similar population and I need something to feed my people, and most of my land is rocky and infertile
And Latin is an official Language.
-Also Can you make Like...The Arabs have an Independence movement as it made more sense then the traditionally friendly Italians and Greeks? Even Communists are more likely.[/quote]
As much as I like compromise I will not budge, however I will concede and allow Latin be an officia language or I give you Libya and take away Tunisia and Albania? Your choice.

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:36 pm

Bolovia wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:My final deal:
1. Latin revival is limited to school teachings and mass.
2. Your territory is Italy, Coast of Yugoslavia and Albania, I will let you have Greece but there is an independence movement and constant insurgency that will put a strain on your economy and increasing war weariness. Plus you can have Tunisia thats it.
3. Epraria will direct you in your history to make it plausible for a revival of a Roman state.
4. In regards to economy once more efforts in Greece are tremendously hampering your growth,therefore your GDP cannot exceed 2.5 trillion dollars.
5. Your people will increasingly demand you abandon Greece altogether due too war weariness
Deal?

5.) I cannot agree with due to the Mass Nationalistic Propaganda, similar to France during the Algerian war, and Can I just trade Albania for Libya? I mean similar population and I need something to feed my people, and most of my land is rocky and infertile
And Latin is an official Language.
-Also Can you make Like...The Arabs have an Independence movement as it made more sense then the traditionally friendly Italians and Greeks? Even Communists are more likely.

As much as I like compromise I will not budge, however I will concede and allow Latin be an officia language or I give you Libya and take away Tunisia and Albania? Your choice.[/quote]

Why is Latin as an Offical language such a big deal? it's one of the European union..and is pretty ceremonial...
I'd certainly like that Land trade.
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Postby Bolovia » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:39 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Bolovia wrote:5.) I cannot agree with due to the Mass Nationalistic Propaganda, similar to France during the Algerian war, and Can I just trade Albania for Libya? I mean similar population and I need something to feed my people, and most of my land is rocky and infertile
And Latin is an official Language.
-Also Can you make Like...The Arabs have an Independence movement as it made more sense then the traditionally friendly Italians and Greeks? Even Communists are more likely.

As much as I like compromise I will not budge, however I will concede and allow Latin be an officia language or I give you Libya and take away Tunisia and Albania? Your choice.


Why is Latin as an Offical language such a big deal? it's one of the European union..and is pretty ceremonial...
I'd certainly like that Land trade.[/quote]
So Libya in exchange for Latin language Tunisia and Albania it is.

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Postby Epraria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:39 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Epraria wrote:5.) I cannot agree with due to the Mass Nationalistic Propaganda, similar to France during the Algerian war, and Can I just trade Albania for Libya? I mean similar population and I need something to feed my people, and most of my land is rocky and infertile
And Latin is an official Language.
-Also Can you make Like...The Arabs have an Independence movement as it made more sense then the traditionally friendly Italians and Greeks? Even Communists are more likely.

The mass propaganda in the Algerian war didn't really work now did it? And nationalistic movements can do wonders in agitation by the people in revolt. As for Libya feeding Italy... Are you serious? Albania is more fertile than libya which is a large desert.


Libya was the Breadbasket of Rome, Due to irrigation and Supply and demand, The quality of the soil has not changed, nor has anything else but the need.
It damn well near did and in a REPUBLICAN and LIBERAL state, Not in a Fascist monarchy[/quote]
Being a fascist monarchy does not equal being more efficient. Fascist Italy was a mess and let's not get started on Nazi Germany. As for Libya now feeding several times millions of more people is ridiculous.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:40 pm

Bolovia wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:As much as I like compromise I will not budge, however I will concede and allow Latin be an officia language or I give you Libya and take away Tunisia and Albania? Your choice.


Why is Latin as an Offical language such a big deal? it's one of the European union..and is pretty ceremonial...
I'd certainly like that Land trade.

So Libya in exchange for Latin language Tunisia and Albania it is.[/quote]
Wait I'm confused, What do you mean by this, I understood the Libya and T.A thing, But what about Latin?
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:40 pm

Epraria wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:The mass propaganda in the Algerian war didn't really work now did it? And nationalistic movements can do wonders in agitation by the people in revolt. As for Libya feeding Italy... Are you serious? Albania is more fertile than libya which is a large desert.


Libya was the Breadbasket of Rome, Due to irrigation and Supply and demand, The quality of the soil has not changed, nor has anything else but the need.
It damn well near did and in a REPUBLICAN and LIBERAL state, Not in a Fascist monarchy

Being a fascist monarchy does not equal being more efficient. Fascist Italy was a mess and let's not get started on Nazi Germany. As for Libya now feeding several times millions of more people is ridiculous.[/quote]
It damn well helps the strain on italy however which is the Main agricultural zone.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:41 pm

We need to fix these quotes....
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:41 pm

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Nation Name: Federation of the Americas
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Unrecongnized claims to the French Guiana
Argentina(unrecognized claims to the Malvinas)
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Ecuador
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Paraguay
Peru
Suriname
Urguguay
Venezuela
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Postby Marsisian » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:43 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Reservations app:
NS Name:Pimps Inc
Nation Name: Federation of the Americas
Land Claim(be reasonable):
Unrecongnized claims to the French Guiana
Argentina(unrecognized claims to the Malvinas)
Bolivia
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
Guyana
Paraguay
Peru
Suriname
Urguguay
Venezuela

Hmmph. I have Bolivia and Argentina and Uruguay and Antofagasta.
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Postby Bolovia » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:44 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Bolovia wrote:
Why is Latin as an Offical language such a big deal? it's one of the European union..and is pretty ceremonial...
I'd certainly like that Land trade.

So Libya in exchange for Latin language Tunisia and Albania it is.

Wait I'm confused, What do you mean by this, I understood the Libya and T.A thing, But what about Latin?[/quote]
My deal was either Libya or Latin, Tunisia and Albania.

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Postby Bolovia » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:46 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Reservations app:
NS Name:Pimps Inc
Nation Name: Federation of the Americas
Land Claim(be reasonable):
Unrecongnized claims to the French Guiana
Argentina(unrecognized claims to the Malvinas)
Bolivia
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
Guyana
Paraguay
Peru
Suriname
Urguguay
Venezuela

Reservation for Columbia, Venezuela,Ecuador,Chile, Paraguay , Guyana, Peru and Suriname noted.

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:46 pm

Bolovia wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:So Libya in exchange for Latin language Tunisia and Albania it is.

Wait I'm confused, What do you mean by this, I understood the Libya and T.A thing, But what about Latin?

My deal was either Libya or Latin, Tunisia and Albania.[/quote]
Why the Latin thing? I don't see peoples fixation on it being an Official Language, Considering the Roman Church is located inside of Italy it would HAVE to be an Offcial Language I don't see how this unrealistic or a benefit for me and seems only as a thing to make my app worse honestly.
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