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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:35 pm

Settlement Name: The Survivalists

Settlement Government Description: Little to no government. The Survivalists roam around Mayfield, scavenging and doing jobs that other settlements cant or wont. The leader is named Ryan.

Settlement Population: 54

Settlement Location: The Survivalists don't have a specific locale, but they tend to stay on the east side of the river.

Settlement Society: The survivalists do jobs for the larger settlements that cant or wont do the jobs themselves. Such as escorting trade caravans, wiping out ferals, etcetera.

Settlement History: The Survivalists were formed 15 years ago by a band of odd-balls, since then it's grown to a healthy number of people and is respected throughout Mayfield for being willing and able to do almost any job.

Settlement Goal: Garner enough wealth to make their own proper settlement.

Settlement Description: Completely void on Infastructure, as we dont have buildings since we are almost always on the move. Good militarily from experience, able to construct their own guns and ammunition. Have used books and knowledge as compensation for services

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Infrastructure: 2/10
Military: 9/10
Agriculture: 5/10
Manufacturing: 6/10
Health/Education: 6/10
Scavenging/Trading: 8/10
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:37 pm

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
Well its not so much the technical know-how (which is a major issue) but having the machinery to create the proper parts needed to convert it to automatic fire.


Imperial, what US military firearm do you suggest I use then? I'm fresh outta ideas


M1 garands would be possible so would M1903s and old winchesters.
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:38 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
Imperial, what US military firearm do you suggest I use then? I'm fresh outta ideas


M1 garands would be possible so would M1903s and old winchesters.


Imma use the Assault Rifle from Fallout 3 :p Basically a basic G3 :p
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Postby The Tophat Empire » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:39 pm

Badafar wrote:Anyone else planning on posting on the IC? waiting on Tophat atm.

sorry, was of RP IRL :p
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:39 pm

Of The Rnclave wrote:Or I could sue the assault rifle from Fallout 3, that's easy to produce, considering it was made using tech from around the 50's



1950's doesn't make it easier to produce.

The FN FAL is from the 50's

AK series rifles are from the 50's (base design)

M-14 from the 50's.

There's nothing 'easy' about producing the a post Apoc situation.

R91 (FO3 Assault Rifle) Or really the G3 is going to be a' Professional' weapon, require constant care, proper ammunition (wrong ammo will dmg the weapon) and lots of parts.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:40 pm

When in doubt, go with what everyone else has. Makes logistical life a fuckton easier.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:41 pm

Of The Rnclave wrote:Or I could sue the assault rifle from Fallout 3, that's easy to produce, considering it was made using tech from around the 50's

No it wasnt it was made using tech from the mid to late 2000s. The world before fallout's apocalypse was to a degree based of the 1950s but it diverges from are timeline completely with the USA becoming a severely Anti-Communist, authoritarian society based off of what people from the 1950s in are timeline thought the future would be like.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:41 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:When in doubt, go with what everyone else has. Makes logistical life a fuckton easier.


Yup. Why anything firing .22, .357 or .44 is normally a good choice, especally since I believe one of those calibers, I fail to remember which one, also takes shotgun shells.
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:42 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:When in doubt, go with what everyone else has. Makes logistical life a fuckton easier.


So Civilian M16's? That's an idea, so many would make it easier to map out production
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:43 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:When in doubt, go with what everyone else has. Makes logistical life a fuckton easier.


Yup. Why anything firing .22, .357 or .44 is normally a good choice, especally since I believe one of those calibers, I fail to remember which one, also takes shotgun shells.


Well .357 can also fire .38 Special. And i think you can get bird shot rounds for both the .44 and .357.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:45 pm

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:When in doubt, go with what everyone else has. Makes logistical life a fuckton easier.


So Civilian M16's? That's an idea, so many would make it easier to map out production


AR-15's would be the technical name.

Get anything Polymer out of your head. Plastics being used in construction is a thing of the past.

the 'standard' is likely going to be the AK as that's my main export and i have a feeling people would rather go with 'ease of use' rather than using an odd ball thing (G3) unless they have a special reason. (NG Armory). Yes i'm a little biased because that's what i sell but really it's a smarter move to go with what's most readily available.
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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:46 pm

How complicated is it to change a gun from semi automatic to automatic ?
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:46 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:Infrastructure: 2/10
Military: 9/10
Agriculture: 3/10
Manufacturing: 8/10
Health/Education: 8/10
Scavenging/Trading: 6/10


You have no infrastructure and yet have excellent manufacturing?

Yeah, no.
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:47 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
So Civilian M16's? That's an idea, so many would make it easier to map out production


AR-15's would be the technical name.

Get anything Polymer out of your head. Plastics being used in construction is a thing of the past.

the 'standard' is likely going to be the AK as that's my main export and i have a feeling people would rather go with 'ease of use' rather than using an odd ball thing (G3) unless they have a special reason. (NG Armory). Yes i'm a little biased because that's what i sell but really it's a smarter move to go with what's most readily available.


So either the M14 due to its availability, like an EBR M14, or AK-47
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:47 pm

Prusslandia wrote:How complicated is it to change a gun from semi automatic to automatic ?



Well if you know what you're doing it's really not that difficult (varies from weapon to weapon). The hard part is having the proper know-how, parts and experience. If you fuck up it can kill the next person firing.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:47 pm

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
AR-15's would be the technical name.

Get anything Polymer out of your head. Plastics being used in construction is a thing of the past.

the 'standard' is likely going to be the AK as that's my main export and i have a feeling people would rather go with 'ease of use' rather than using an odd ball thing (G3) unless they have a special reason. (NG Armory). Yes i'm a little biased because that's what i sell but really it's a smarter move to go with what's most readily available.


So either the M14 due to its availability, like an EBR M14, or AK-47

M-14 is not a bad choice.
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/nations.php?nation=Imperial+City-States
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:48 pm

tophat and monastery both ignored me :o
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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:49 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
So either the M14 due to its availability, like an EBR M14, or AK-47

M-14 is not a bad choice.


I do produce plenty of steel, so an M14 EBR would be okay I guess, guess that's my choice :p
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Postby The Tophat Empire » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:50 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
So Civilian M16's? That's an idea, so many would make it easier to map out production


AR-15's would be the technical name.

Get anything Polymer out of your head. Plastics being used in construction is a thing of the past.

the 'standard' is likely going to be the AK as that's my main export and i have a feeling people would rather go with 'ease of use' rather than using an odd ball thing (G3) unless they have a special reason. (NG Armory). Yes i'm a little biased because that's what i sell but really it's a smarter move to go with what's most readily available.


Imperial, don't you dare insult the G3, and on a more general note, I think you are acing more and more of a CO-OP, and correct me if i am wrong, but i do not think you are one. to me is looks like you are ordering around others.

just saying my opinion, i mean no insult, nor harm
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:50 pm

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:M-14 is not a bad choice.


I do produce plenty of steel, so an M14 EBR would be okay I guess, guess that's my choice :p



'Produce' doesn't mean you can 'waste' on a useless design.
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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
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Postby The Tophat Empire » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:50 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:tophat and monastery both ignored me :o


missed it before
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:52 pm

The Tophat Empire wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
AR-15's would be the technical name.

Get anything Polymer out of your head. Plastics being used in construction is a thing of the past.

the 'standard' is likely going to be the AK as that's my main export and i have a feeling people would rather go with 'ease of use' rather than using an odd ball thing (G3) unless they have a special reason. (NG Armory). Yes i'm a little biased because that's what i sell but really it's a smarter move to go with what's most readily available.


Imperial, don't you dare insult the G3, and on a more general note, I think you are acing more and more of a CO-OP, and correct me if i am wrong, but i do not think you are one. to me is looks like you are ordering around others.

just saying my opinion, i mean no insult, not harm



You are correct in that i am not one, The original point was R trying to use Vietnam Era M-16's (an impossibility) I'm just providing suggestions on what it wouldn't work in a realistic sense.

As far as the G3.....

Well...

Silly Germans.
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"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
George Orwell

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Postby Badafar » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:52 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:tophat and monastery both ignored me :o


Sorry, I didn't catch you. What is it you posted?

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