Ashes [Closed-OOC]

[Kentsland]

@Kaz: You are accepted! Very good app.

@NewSea: Yes you can make new drugs, just write up a description like is in the Apocalapedia. Anyone can submit anything; creatures too.

[Heraklea-]

Dude, we use poptabs, not caps.

And we use old Poker chips lol.

Well, majority of the wasteland is using poptabs, per OP.

[Imperial City-States]

And we use old Poker chips lol.

Well, majority of the wasteland is using poptabs, per OP.

Or you could be like me and only recognize material goods ;D

[The New Sea Territory]

Seeing as I have a bunch of random, rare medicine in the hospital, can I invent new drugs? Stardust and Fireball seem too easy to manufacture, and I wanted something that could bring in more caps.

Dude, we use poptabs, not caps.

Grr. Fallout tendencies.

@Kaz: You are accepted! Very good app.

@NewSea: Yes you can make new drugs, just write up a description like is in the Apocalapedia. Anyone can submit anything; creatures too.

Cool. I'll start making some.

[Kazarogkai]

To be fair 150 years after the apocalypse do you think that would be really that uncommon? Consider the fact that black powder is rather easy and simple to make in contrast Smokeless powder is worlds apart and would be very difficult to manufacture unless you had a good deal of knowledge in chemistry. Not only that but Firearms not taken care of like most things degrade over time so as such guns produced 150 years ago would be pretty much falling apart except in some rare occasions.

The main weapon of the Patriots are M16A1's from the Vietnam era, easier to produce and not as advanced

They still require considerable tech to make, some mechanic in a garage wouldn't be able to make one. Requires special tools and equipment, something the armory has since they control the factory locations. Plus Vietnam era M16 would be very old and would of suffered degradation over time just like any other weapon. Point still stands.

[Prusslandia]

Somebody should raid the mall for all of the poptabs. There is bound to be hundreds.

[Of The Rnclave]

The main weapon of the Patriots are M16A1's from the Vietnam era, easier to produce and not as advanced

They still require considerable tech to make, some mechanic in a garage wouldn't be able to make one. Requires special tools and equipment, something the armory has since they control the factory locations. Plus Vietnam era M16 would be very old and would of suffered degradation over time just like any other weapon. Point still stands.

The Patriots have access to loads if military tech and blue prints, they sued steel and such meant for helicopters and planes, to build small arms and battlements

[The Tophat Empire]

To be fair 150 years after the apocalypse do you think that would be really that uncommon? Consider the fact that black powder is rather easy and simple to make in contrast Smokeless powder is worlds apart and would be very difficult to manufacture unless you had a good deal of knowledge in chemistry. Not only that but Firearms not taken care of like most things degrade over time so as such guns produced 150 years ago would be pretty much falling apart except in some rare occasions.

The main weapon of the Patriots are M16A1's from the Vietnam era, easier to produce and not as advanced

M16´s.... easy to make.... no,no a AK-47 is "easy"(rather wage term, as a breach lock can be considered easy, making a ak-47 advanced) when the m16 was created is was Space Age as fuck. using plastics and similar synthetic and composite materials. How do you make that is a world where electricity is relatively rare

[Imperial City-States]

The main weapon of the Patriots are M16A1's from the Vietnam era, easier to produce and not as advanced

They still require considerable tech to make, some mechanic in a garage wouldn't be able to make one. Requires special tools and equipment, something the armory has since they control the factory locations. Plus Vietnam era M16 would be very old and would of suffered degradation over time just like any other weapon. Point still stands.

Honestly the concept of Black Powder rifles being in common use makes the most sense.

As far as M16's go...

The plastic in them would have degraded into nothing, it would be so fragile that it would literally crumble in your hands when you tried to pick it up, you're more likely to have it detonate in your hands trying to fire the damn thing.

And M-16's are anything BUT easy to make even by modern standards, they're a very mechanically intensive weapon and require alot of fine made parts in order to work properly. You would need very special equipment and tools to machine the parts and even more to make the molds for the polymer body's. Not to mention that with the way M-16 parts fit together any sort of grit would render your weapon inoperable.

That's not even going into Ammunition.

You're trying to hard too make a Mary Sue faction like the Enclave.

[Kazarogkai]

And we use old Poker chips lol.

Well, majority of the wasteland is using poptabs, per OP.

We do actually use poptabs alongside basic barter when we trade with foreign groups it's just for internal commerce we use are own currency known as Polis Sovereigns.

[Badafar]

The main weapon of the Patriots are M16A1's from the Vietnam era, easier to produce and not as advanced

M16´s.... easy to make.... no,no a AK-47 is "easy"(rather wage term, as a breach lock can be considered easy, making a ak-47 advanced) when the m16 was created is was Space Age as fuck. using plastics and similar synthetic and composite materials. How do you make that is a world where electricity is relatively rare

Just as a reference.

[Prusslandia]

Imperial, if the guy who has reserved the power plant doesn't post, then I'll be owning it.

Seeing as how you will probably need the power plant to run your production lines, lets be friends.

[Of The Rnclave]

The main weapon of the Patriots are M16A1's from the Vietnam era, easier to produce and not as advanced

M16´s.... easy to make.... no,no a AK-47 is "easy"(rather wage term, as a breach lock can be considered easy, making a ak-47 advanced) when the m16 was created is was Space Age as fuck. using plastics and similar synthetic and composite materials. How do you make that is a world where electricity is relatively rare

Well we are the US military in form and function, it's either the M16 or Trapdoor Springfield

[Kentsland]

The guns that are used would be whatever is most common in the US. AR-15s and M16s from police, army and civilian users, different hunting rifles and shotguns from countryside.

9 or 10mm handguns as well as .22 rifles would be most common, I'd imagine.

Sorry if my lack of gun knowledge is showing.

[Imperial City-States]

Imperial, if the guy who has reserved the power plant doesn't post, then I'll be owning it.

Seeing as how you will probably need the power plant to run your production lines, lets be friends.

I'd be game for that.

Currently i have enough power to run my factories but linking up with your (alleged) group would allow me to really ramp up production

[Badafar]

M16´s.... easy to make.... no,no a AK-47 is "easy"(rather wage term, as a breach lock can be considered easy, making a ak-47 advanced) when the m16 was created is was Space Age as fuck. using plastics and similar synthetic and composite materials. How do you make that is a world where electricity is relatively rare

Well we are the US military in form and function, it's either the M16 or Trapdoor Springfield

While you do you have high Military points, you have less than average manufacturing and only average health/education, weapons as complex as an M16 would need someone skilled to make them, unless you come up with a reason with how you managed to find functioning, non rusted, non corroded M16's 150 years after a nuclear holocaust.

[Imperial City-States]

The guns that are used would be whatever is most common in the US. AR-15s and M16s from police, army and civilian users, different hunting rifles and shotguns from countryside.

9 or 10mm handguns as well as .22 rifles would be most common, I'd imagine.

Sorry if my lack of gun knowledge is showing.

AR-15's are certainly very common with your AK platforms, M-14's and L1A1/FN FAL's falling close behind.

Handguns you'd really have lot of .45, 9mm and .40.

[Kazarogkai]

The guns that are used would be whatever is most common in the US. AR-15s and M16s from police, army and civilian users, different hunting rifles and shotguns from countryside.

9 or 10mm handguns as well as .22 rifles would be most common, I'd imagine.

Sorry if my lack of gun knowledge is showing.

AR-15's are certainly very common with your AK platforms, M-14's and L1A1/FN FAL's falling close behind.

Handguns you'd really have lot of .45, 9mm and .40.

When it comes to assault rifles, yes, but overall assault rifles are not really that common among the public contrary to popular belief. The vast bulk of personal fire arms in the US are pistols followed very closely by various shotguns and the occasional hunting rifle.

[Imperial City-States]

AR-15's are certainly very common with your AK platforms, M-14's and L1A1/FN FAL's falling close behind.

Handguns you'd really have lot of .45, 9mm and .40.

When it comes to assault rifles, yes, but overall assault rifles are not really that common among the public contrary to popular belief. The vast bulk of personal fire arms in the US are pistols followed very closely by various shotguns and the occasional hunting rifle.

Why does everyone call them 'Assault Rifles', such an ugly term, and an inaccurate one.

[Kazarogkai]

M16´s.... easy to make.... no,no a AK-47 is "easy"(rather wage term, as a breach lock can be considered easy, making a ak-47 advanced) when the m16 was created is was Space Age as fuck. using plastics and similar synthetic and composite materials. How do you make that is a world where electricity is relatively rare

Well we are the US military in form and function, it's either the M16 or Trapdoor Springfield

Sten guns wouldn't be too difficult to make, the originals were made in a bike shop for petes sake and they were a common platform to use for underground resistance factories in occupied Europe.

[Badafar]

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[Of The Rnclave]

Well we are the US military in form and function, it's either the M16 or Trapdoor Springfield

Sten guns wouldn't be too difficult to make, the originals were made in a bike shop for petes sake and they were a common platform to use for underground resistance factories in occupied Europe.

I believe I'm going to do a 1950's sorta USA in form and function, but with modernist politics, so a mix of M14's and M1 Garands taken from surplus caches and reproduced overtime or maybe AK's because they are so easy to make and reproduce

[Imperial City-States]

Sten guns wouldn't be too difficult to make, the originals were made in a bike shop for petes sake and they were a common platform to use for underground resistance factories in occupied Europe.

I believe I'm going to do a 1950's sorta USA in form and function, but with modernist politics, so a mix of M14's and M1 Garands taken from surplus caches and reproduced overtime or maybe AK's because they are so easy to make and reproduce

Well AK's are still difficult to manufacture (partially why i have the monopoly) by post Collapse standard.

AK's would be more readily available from other people and ammunition would be more common. Parts would be more readily available so even if i don't sell to you you can still acquire them from other factions.

[Kazarogkai]

When it comes to assault rifles, yes, but overall assault rifles are not really that common among the public contrary to popular belief. The vast bulk of personal fire arms in the US are pistols followed very closely by various shotguns and the occasional hunting rifle.

Why does everyone call them 'Assault Rifles', such an ugly term, and an inaccurate one.

Because that is the actual technical term, I believe you are mistaking that for the term "Assault weapon" which is inaccurate.

An Assault Rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine, in contrast to Battle Rifles that fire a full-power rifle cartridge.

[Prusslandia]

Imperial, if the guy who has reserved the power plant doesn't post, then I'll be owning it.

Seeing as how you will probably need the power plant to run your production lines, lets be friends.

I'd be game for that.

Currently i have enough power to run my factories but linking up with your (alleged) group would allow me to really ramp up production

Well, all I'd ask for in return is food and weapons.