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Postby Elepis » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:31 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Elepis wrote:
the area this guy ruled over


He seemingly correlates to Tylis with a similar situation to Ptolemy, that being a Macedonian ruler over the natives. In this case, it's Thracians.


his dynasty seemed quite stable and he control a fair amount of land in Thrace and Pergamon, I like him

PS, he is Greek
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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:31 pm

Elepis wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:They don't know much, other than thst somebody exists down there. So they be sending a small scout ship, that'll stumble upon spain, raid for a bit, and go hoke with news. They'll return with a larger fleet, and find Italy this time.


OK, is their anything that you have that the outrageously rich Ptolemy's might want?

Slaves, various metals, longships, food, things that they can't get down south.

Plus, I can always raid them if they resist.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:32 pm

Elepis wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
He seemingly correlates to Tylis with a similar situation to Ptolemy, that being a Macedonian ruler over the natives. In this case, it's Thracians.

He is actually Greek but never mind, he dynasty seemed quite stable though


As for Pergamon, well, that's as easy as flipping the satrapy to a much easier to win against successor.

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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:32 pm

Elepis wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
By "Thrace" do you mean Tylis?

Because if so we may have a problem.


the area this guy ruled over


Eh, we might have a problem, or we might not. Lysimachus technically rules over Tylis, but most of his subjects there would be half-Celtic, half-Thracian semi-autonomous tribes. I imagine your daughter and her new husband will be more concerned with establishing a stable power-base in Pergamon and making a claim to the Macedonian throne than governing a territory which they pretty much only rule in name.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:32 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
Elepis wrote:
OK, is their anything that you have that the outrageously rich Ptolemy's might want?

Slaves, various metals, longships, food, things that they can't get down south.

Plus, I can always raid them if they resist.


But we can give you pretty boots.

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Postby Ancian » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:33 pm

I only have one son. So. We got a problem up in Macedon. I'm willing to trade and give junks of gold and gifts. But not the son. He's pretty cool.
Also. Am I still in alliances with the before said people?
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:33 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Elepis wrote:
the area this guy ruled over


Eh, we might have a problem, or we might not. Lysimachus technically rules over Tylis, but most of his subjects there would be half-Celtic, half-Thracian semi-autonomous tribes. I imagine your daughter and her new husband will be more concerned with establishing a stable power-base in Pergamon and making a claim to the Macedonian throne than governing a territory which they pretty much only rule in name.


Again, Brennos hasn't invaded yet, so the populace of Tylis is not a Celtic blend quite yet. Give it 20 years or so.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:34 pm

Ancian wrote:I only have one son. So. We got a problem up in Macedon. I'm willing to trade and give junks of gold and gifts. But not the son. He's pretty cool.
Also. Am I still in alliances with the before said people?


I'm still game for the Alexandrian Coalition (Nice name, right?)

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Postby Elepis » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:35 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
Elepis wrote:
OK, is their anything that you have that the outrageously rich Ptolemy's might want?

Slaves, various metals, longships, food, things that they can't get down south.

Plus, I can always raid them if they resist.


you will raid the nation that controls the 2nd largest fleet and is allies to the nation with the largest fleet which spends most of its time destroying pirates?

I have slaves, I have metal, I have ships, I have food. The Ptolemy's liked mercenaries, do you have any good warriors?

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Elepis wrote: He is actually Greek but never mind, he dynasty seemed quite stable though


As for Pergamon, well, that's as easy as flipping the satrapy to a much easier to win against successor.


pardon?
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Postby Elepis » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:35 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Ancian wrote:I only have one son. So. We got a problem up in Macedon. I'm willing to trade and give junks of gold and gifts. But not the son. He's pretty cool.
Also. Am I still in alliances with the before said people?


I'm still game for the Alexandrian Coalition (Nice name, right?)


I think we got rid of those, they were too alt-history as G-tech pointed out
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Postby Olthenia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:36 pm

Alouite wrote:Ah, I remember that you were a good RPer in a previous RP. But you didn't fill out the app. You put in the info I already gave you.


Oops. My mistake.

Country: Athens
Demonyms: Athenians
Currency: Silver drachma
Name of Ruler: Tolmides
Do you know where it is on the map?: Yes
Population: 250,000 - 300,000

Modifiers:
Wooden Walls: Athens was once the preeminent naval power in Greece. Although since humbled, it's naval prowess is still to be reckoned with.

Hoplites: No other word says 'Greeks at war' in quite the same way.

Heirs of Democracy: Athens, home of democracy and learning, is the model of all Classical Greek cultural achievement. Its people defend it accordingly.

Schools of Athens: The scions of Athens' wealthiest families are well educated in public debate, mathematics, administration and philosophy; an obvious benefit to a burgeoning empire.

Attican Rivalry: The burden of contending with the heirs of Herakles has traditionally fallen to Athens. Diplomatic relations with Sparta are understandably strained.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:37 pm

Elepis wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Slaves, various metals, longships, food, things that they can't get down south.

Plus, I can always raid them if they resist.


you will raid the nation that controls the 2nd largest fleet and is allies to the nation with the largest fleet which spends most of its time destroying pirates?

I have slaves, I have metal, I have ships, I have food. The Ptolemy's liked mercenaries, do you have any good warriors?

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
As for Pergamon, well, that's as easy as flipping the satrapy to a much easier to win against successor.


pardon?


Pergamon was a territory of Thrace, so I said the map didn't need any update because Pergamon is still considered a satrapy.

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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:37 pm

Elepis wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Slaves, various metals, longships, food, things that they can't get down south.

Plus, I can always raid them if they resist.


you will raid the nation that controls the 2nd largest fleet and is allies to the nation with the largest fleet which spends most of its time destroying pirates?

I have slaves, I have metal, I have ships, I have food. The Ptolemy's liked mercenaries, do you have any good warriors?

Yup. You won't have any real reason to pursue me, seeing as how I'm way up north.

And yes, I have fantastic warriors. Berserkers and more.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:37 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Eh, we might have a problem, or we might not. Lysimachus technically rules over Tylis, but most of his subjects there would be half-Celtic, half-Thracian semi-autonomous tribes. I imagine your daughter and her new husband will be more concerned with establishing a stable power-base in Pergamon and making a claim to the Macedonian throne than governing a territory which they pretty much only rule in name.


Again, Brennos hasn't invaded yet, so the populace of Tylis is not a Celtic blend quite yet. Give it 20 years or so.


Oh, right.

Well, at any rate, I don't think Lysimachus ever held a terribly significant amount of power over Tylis.

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Postby Elepis » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:37 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Elepis wrote:
you will raid the nation that controls the 2nd largest fleet and is allies to the nation with the largest fleet which spends most of its time destroying pirates?

I have slaves, I have metal, I have ships, I have food. The Ptolemy's liked mercenaries, do you have any good warriors?



pardon?


Pergamon was a territory of Thrace, so I said the map didn't need any update because Pergamon is still considered a satrapy.


OK
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:38 pm

Elepis wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
I'm still game for the Alexandrian Coalition (Nice name, right?)


I think we got rid of those, they were too alt-history as G-tech pointed out


Well, there's nothing truly preventing the Etruscans from supporting Macedon. The largest power in Greece could offer good services to the Tuscan ambitions in Crete.

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Postby Nuverikstan » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:38 pm

Olthenia wrote:
Alouite wrote:Ah, I remember that you were a good RPer in a previous RP. But you didn't fill out the app. You put in the info I already gave you.


Oops. My mistake.

Country: Athens
Demonyms: Athenians
Currency: Silver drachma
Name of Ruler: Tolmides
Do you know where it is on the map?: Yes
Population: 250,000 - 300,000

Modifiers:
Wooden Walls: Athens was once the preeminent naval power in Greece. Although since humbled, it's naval prowess is still to be reckoned with.

Hoplites: No other word says 'Greeks at war' in quite the same way.

Heirs of Democracy: Athens, home of democracy and learning, is the model of all Classical Greek cultural achievement. Its people defend it accordingly.

Schools of Athens: The scions of Athens' wealthiest families are well educated in public debate, mathematics, administration and philosophy; an obvious benefit to a burgeoning empire.

Attican Rivalry: The burden of contending with the heirs of Herakles has traditionally fallen to Athens. Diplomatic relations with Sparta are understandably strained.


Are you going to support Egypt or Macedon?
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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:39 pm

Ik, what can you offer the Nordi when they finally reach you ?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:40 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Elepis wrote:
I think we got rid of those, they were too alt-history as G-tech pointed out


Well, there's nothing truly preventing the Etruscans from supporting Macedon. The largest power in Greece could offer good services to the Tuscan ambitions in Crete.


It'd make perfect sense for the two of you to ally against the current owners of Crete, given you're both sort of in opposition to the mainline Greeks. A military alliance isn't the same thing in this era as what we in the 21st century think of an alliance as though, which is what I was pointing out.
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Postby Elepis » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:41 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Again, Brennos hasn't invaded yet, so the populace of Tylis is not a Celtic blend quite yet. Give it 20 years or so.


Oh, right.

Well, at any rate, I don't think Lysimachus ever held a terribly significant amount of power over Tylis.


He was king of it, his son was king of it, how much more do you want? He was based more in Thrace, his son become king of Thrace but Pergamon got independence when he died
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Postby Ancian » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:42 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Ancian wrote:I only have one son. So. We got a problem up in Macedon. I'm willing to trade and give junks of gold and gifts. But not the son. He's pretty cool.
Also. Am I still in alliances with the before said people?


I'm still game for the Alexandrian Coalition (Nice name, right?)

It's a pretty awesome name, and I think the Greeks are gonna be in it or die by me mighty rule. Especially since some will join me Greece will be an ally. Course it's easier if they all agree. And I think Byzantion is with it.
As far as alt history goes. Me and Greece is decent. With the way I said above. And as far as tylis goes. An allied front to defend from Thrace and against the the other Balkan and possible celts. As I said I wanted to expand north primarily to consolidate and prove to Greeks it's smart to join before taking the Greek colonies in Italy. Which is where I'll meet the Etruscans and team up. Know, they don't have to be allies with each other so maybe just them allied with me and they know about each other. That doesn't seem as bad. Alt history wise. And us and Etruscans are reasonable before we get into Italy
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Postby Elepis » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:43 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
Olthenia wrote:
Oops. My mistake.

Country: Athens
Demonyms: Athenians
Currency: Silver drachma
Name of Ruler: Tolmides
Do you know where it is on the map?: Yes
Population: 250,000 - 300,000

Modifiers:
Wooden Walls: Athens was once the preeminent naval power in Greece. Although since humbled, it's naval prowess is still to be reckoned with.

Hoplites: No other word says 'Greeks at war' in quite the same way.

Heirs of Democracy: Athens, home of democracy and learning, is the model of all Classical Greek cultural achievement. Its people defend it accordingly.

Schools of Athens: The scions of Athens' wealthiest families are well educated in public debate, mathematics, administration and philosophy; an obvious benefit to a burgeoning empire.

Attican Rivalry: The burden of contending with the heirs of Herakles has traditionally fallen to Athens. Diplomatic relations with Sparta are understandably strained.


Are you going to support Egypt or Macedon?


what can Athens offer me is the question? I support those who help me
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:43 pm

Elepis wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Oh, right.

Well, at any rate, I don't think Lysimachus ever held a terribly significant amount of power over Tylis.


He was king of it, his son was king of it, how much more do you want? He was based more in Thrace, his son become king of Thrace but Pergamon got independence when he died


Eh, I was trying to deter you from getting maritally tied-up with him.

Oh well, looks like my ambitions will inevitably clash with yours.

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Postby The NAR » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:43 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
Olthenia wrote:
Oops. My mistake.

Country: Athens
Demonyms: Athenians
Currency: Silver drachma
Name of Ruler: Tolmides
Do you know where it is on the map?: Yes
Population: 250,000 - 300,000

Modifiers:
Wooden Walls: Athens was once the preeminent naval power in Greece. Although since humbled, it's naval prowess is still to be reckoned with.

Hoplites: No other word says 'Greeks at war' in quite the same way.

Heirs of Democracy: Athens, home of democracy and learning, is the model of all Classical Greek cultural achievement. Its people defend it accordingly.

Schools of Athens: The scions of Athens' wealthiest families are well educated in public debate, mathematics, administration and philosophy; an obvious benefit to a burgeoning empire.

Attican Rivalry: The burden of contending with the heirs of Herakles has traditionally fallen to Athens. Diplomatic relations with Sparta are understandably strained.


Are you going to support Egypt or Macedon?


If Greece was ever threatened, it would be likely for Athens and Sparta to work together with Macedonia to defend Greece
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Postby Olthenia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:44 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
Olthenia wrote:
Oops. My mistake.

Country: Athens
Demonyms: Athenians
Currency: Silver drachma
Name of Ruler: Tolmides
Do you know where it is on the map?: Yes
Population: 250,000 - 300,000

Modifiers:
Wooden Walls: Athens was once the preeminent naval power in Greece. Although since humbled, it's naval prowess is still to be reckoned with.

Hoplites: No other word says 'Greeks at war' in quite the same way.

Heirs of Democracy: Athens, home of democracy and learning, is the model of all Classical Greek cultural achievement. Its people defend it accordingly.

Schools of Athens: The scions of Athens' wealthiest families are well educated in public debate, mathematics, administration and philosophy; an obvious benefit to a burgeoning empire.

Attican Rivalry: The burden of contending with the heirs of Herakles has traditionally fallen to Athens. Diplomatic relations with Sparta are understandably strained.


Are you going to support Egypt or Macedon?


That remains to be seen.

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