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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:26 am

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I'm in the same boat. Historically a lot of my dynasty are already married.


You're in a bad spot here- stick with Seleuces and his belovedness or sacrifice stability for a custom dynasty.


Oh I'm keeping Seleuces, for sure. He's a great man, and one I respect. Political marriages are nice, but I'm the Seleucid Empire, not the random Successor Kingdom.
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Postby Epraria » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:28 am

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Epraria wrote:Well i barely have anyone to marry of.


I'm in the same boat. Historically a lot of my dynasty are already married.

I don't even know how old Ariobarzanes is.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:28 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
You're in a bad spot here- stick with Seleuces and his belovedness or sacrifice stability for a custom dynasty.


Oh I'm keeping Seleuces, for sure. He's a great man, and one I respect. Political marriages are nice, but I'm the Seleucid Empire, not the random Successor Kingdom.


I can't believe you would insult Baktria so!

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:30 am

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Oh I'm keeping Seleuces, for sure. He's a great man, and one I respect. Political marriages are nice, but I'm the Seleucid Empire, not the random Successor Kingdom.


I can't believe you would insult Baktria so!


Baktria is cool. I'm not going to set up a custom dynasty though and insult the memory of one of Alexander's more competent generals.

Seleuces got his Empire named after him for very cogent reasons. I'm not sure if I'll keep his bloodline, but the dynasty name will certainly endure.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:31 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
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Oh I'm keeping Seleuces, for sure. He's a great man, and one I respect. Political marriages are nice, but I'm the Seleucid Empire, not the random Successor Kingdom.


I can't believe you would insult Baktria so!


Baktria has little right to actually be a successor kingdom. It's tiny and really far away. I suppose you could claim it represents the continued ambition of Alexander in India or something...

But ultimately the populace is comprised of Persians pretending to be Greeks pretending to be Macedonians pretending to be Indians pretending to be Persians pretending to be Greeks

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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:33 am

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Very much it was. Keep in mind, though, that Germanic nations, because they were so warlike, rarely actually claimed land. War got a lot of loot, some slaves, perhaps a few concubines, and a ton of prestige, but it rarely resulted in actual expansion. Worth noting is that Germans hated Celts, so maybe a modifier for that could be tossed in among Germanic nations.


For modifiers, something should be said about Norway's role in the Germanic world. It is the coldest and most northernly, so certainly a winter warfare modifier. It's one of the holiest sites in Odinism, so there's also that. They're also relatively unblocked with access to the North Sea in contrast to the Dani and the Geats and the Gutis, who all have to circumnavigate Jutland to get to the North Sea.

So we have these.

1. Winter warfare bonus
2. War doesn't require a casus belli
3. Naval warfare bonus
4. Warfare bonus against celts
5. Faster fleets.
6. Can declare a crusade of sorts at almost any time, and tribes that practice the religion of the Nordi will assist in defence.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:35 am

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For modifiers, something should be said about Norway's role in the Germanic world. It is the coldest and most northernly, so certainly a winter warfare modifier. It's one of the holiest sites in Odinism, so there's also that. They're also relatively unblocked with access to the North Sea in contrast to the Dani and the Geats and the Gutis, who all have to circumnavigate Jutland to get to the North Sea.

So we have these.

1. Winter warfare bonus
2. War doesn't require a casus belli
3. Naval warfare bonus
4. Warfare bonus against celts
5. Faster fleets.
6. Can declare a crusade of sorts at almost any time, and tribes that practice the religion of the Nordi will assist in defence.


I'd scale it down a bit. For example, you can declare war without a CB, but you will still take a penalty for annexing land. The crusade thing, I'm not so sure about. It might be more of a diplomatic bonus with Germanic factions or maybe a free conquest CB against the Finnnic and Celtic countries.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:37 am

Kuhlfros wrote:Country:The Caledonians
Demonyms: Pictish, Caledones, Caledonians
Currency: (Barter, Iron Coin, Gold Coin, etc.) Barter
Name of Ruler: High Cheiftain Talorc
Do you know where it is on the map?: Yes
Population: 5,000-15,000

In-Game Focus:To Unite the Pictish Tribes under one Rule Raid, Pillage, Pirate. Long Term Goal would be Unite the British Isles and merge the Gaelic Culture
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Well, they sort of did reverse with Gaels conquering Pictland. That might be interesting though for Scottish culture (Pictish/Gaelic creole) to pop up somewhere in Ireland. Anyway, it's accepted.

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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:38 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:So we have these.

1. Winter warfare bonus
2. War doesn't require a casus belli
3. Naval warfare bonus
4. Warfare bonus against celts
5. Faster fleets.
6. Can declare a crusade of sorts at almost any time, and tribes that practice the religion of the Nordi will assist in defence.


I'd scale it down a bit. For example, you can declare war without a CB, but you will still take a penalty for annexing land. The crusade thing, I'm not so sure about. It might be more of a diplomatic bonus with Germanic factions or maybe a free conquest CB against the Finnnic and Celtic countries.

Perhaps I have a bonus against non germanic religious people, especially against the celts and fins ?
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:40 am

Prusslandia wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
I'd scale it down a bit. For example, you can declare war without a CB, but you will still take a penalty for annexing land. The crusade thing, I'm not so sure about. It might be more of a diplomatic bonus with Germanic factions or maybe a free conquest CB against the Finnnic and Celtic countries.

Perhaps I have a bonus against non germanic religious people, especially against the celts and fins ?


That might work, though for all practical purposes you'd really be facing only Celts and Finns for quite a while.

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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:41 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Perhaps I have a bonus against non germanic religious people, especially against the celts and fins ?


That might work, though for all practical purposes you'd really be facing only Celts and Finns for quite a while.

Well, I'll be sending a longship here and there southward, thst will probably hit Italy. So that should be interesting.
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Postby Vulkanas » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:46 am

Prusslandia wrote:Perhaps I have a bonus against non germanic religious people, especially against the celts and fins ?

Out of interest, how would the Nordi feel about a marriage alliance with the Geats?

Also, Ik, since we're on the topic of modifiers, do you think that the CB on Finns etc should be a universal Norse/Germanic thing? If so, the same can probably be said about these naval bonuses considering the cultural similarities. Alouite already gave me 4 modifiers and some of them are based around Norse raiding and looting. If we are going to have some culturally universal modifiers I think raiding/looting for the Norse is a good start.
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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:50 am

Vulkanas wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Perhaps I have a bonus against non germanic religious people, especially against the celts and fins ?

How would the Nordi feel about a marriage alliance with the Geats?

Also, Ik, since we're on the topic of modifiers, do you think that the CB on Finns etc should be a universal Norse/Germanic thing? If so, the same can probably be said about these naval bonuses considering the cultural similarities. Alouite already gave me 4 modifiers and some of them are based around Norse raiding and looting. If we are going to have some culturally universal modifiers I think raiding/looting for the Norse is a good start.

Well, I'll need something more than a wife and an alliance. Give me some thralls, some swords and armour, the good stuff.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:50 am

Vulkanas wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Perhaps I have a bonus against non germanic religious people, especially against the celts and fins ?

Out of interest, how would the Nordi feel about a marriage alliance with the Geats?

Also, Ik, since we're on the topic of modifiers, do you think that the CB on Finns etc should be a universal Norse/Germanic thing? If so, the same can probably be said about these naval bonuses considering the cultural similarities. Alouite already gave me 4 modifiers and some of them are based around Norse raiding and looting. If we are going to have some culturally universal modifiers I think raiding/looting for the Norse is a good start.


True. The Nordi should have some sort of religious CB though. Maybe it's like the one given to other Norse, but with more benefits?

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:51 am

Prusslandia wrote:
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That might work, though for all practical purposes you'd really be facing only Celts and Finns for quite a while.

Well, I'll be sending a longship here and there southward, thst will probably hit Italy. So that should be interesting.


Wait.....italy...war....vikings....

I AM NOT BECOMING A THRALL!

*Jumps in water and swims to Crete*

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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:53 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Well, I'll be sending a longship here and there southward, thst will probably hit Italy. So that should be interesting.


Wait.....italy...war....vikings....

I AM NOT BECOMING A THRALL!

*Jumps in water and swims to Crete*

Oh no, you're being sacrificed to the gods. :p
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:55 am

Prusslandia wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Wait.....italy...war....vikings....

I AM NOT BECOMING A THRALL!

*Jumps in water and swims to Crete*

Oh no, you're being sacrificed to the gods. :p


On second thought, concubinage might not be as bad as I initially judged it. That is, assuming you won't just toss the beautiful Etruscan queen into the mud pits.

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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:56 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Oh no, you're being sacrificed to the gods. :p


On second thought, concubinage might not be as bad as I initially judged it. That is, assuming you won't just toss the beautiful Etruscan queen into the mud pits.

Oh, don't you worry. The queen will be gifted to the Jarl. Then, ravaging shall happen.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:57 am

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Alouite wrote:Someone bump the apps I missed. I'll be doing a bunch of work and maybe launching the IC tonight!


Hi, I applied as Baktria

Country: Greco-Bactrian Kingdom
Demonyms: Bactrian
Currency: (Barter, Iron Coin, Gold Coin, etc.): Gold Coins
Name of Ruler: Diodotus I ( I think at this time I'm still technically a satrap of the Seleucids.)
Do you know where it is on the map?: Around Afghanistan.
Population: 600,000

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Silently bide my time as a satrap of the Seleucids. Perhaps I will declare complete secession one day or perhaps not.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:58 am

Prusslandia wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
On second thought, concubinage might not be as bad as I initially judged it. That is, assuming you won't just toss the beautiful Etruscan queen into the mud pits.

Oh, don't you worry. The queen will be gifted to the Jarl. Then, ravaging shall happen.


Better than him snapping my neck, I suppose.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:58 am

Ancian wrote:I can't find a satisfying list of children of Antingonus 1, anyone know where I could find one? Google failed me


Here you go

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Postby Prusslandia » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:59 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Oh, don't you worry. The queen will be gifted to the Jarl. Then, ravaging shall happen.


Better than him snapping my neck, I suppose.

I can't say the same for the rest of the family, however.
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