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Postby Kuhlfros » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:05 pm

Reatra wrote:
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Yeah of course a central leader, but he isnt a King

No not really, The Mediterranean was, well the center of knowledge and culture, and they had ocean-going or jut more hardy vessels, most Barbarian Tribes and Kingdoms were coastal and light, and would be ripped up by a storm in open sea, this includes the Nordics, for at least a century I think the Nordics won't be finding our lands with certainty

Well If Tribes were friendly that would be true, tribes sorted themselves into their own little groups and fought these other ones, or teamed up against the powerful one tribe above the others, and as was said before on ships, yes the Insular Celts are from the Gaullic Celts as descendants, but once again these are tribes, and warlike ones are the ones who survive, that is until the Romans...anyways unless you were teaming up against an enemy or friendly with the other tribes leader like from Blood or something, there was a general mistrust or hate for one another



Actually, Irish and Briton seacraft were quite good at oceangoing, I forget who but this Greek cartographer took a Galley to Galicia, a Gallic craft to Britain, and a Briton hide canoe to somewhere near Orkney, and went further to "where the sea turned to milk". The Briton craft were basically hide stretched over a frame, but their simplicity is the reason they survived a storm, they simply rolled over the waves, and everyone got seasick, but otherwise they were fine.

Really? I hadn't heard that story, I would like to read on it, if you knew the Cartographers Name ;-; ,Well, I won't retract my statement on Norse Raids still, since the Mighty Longship has not yet to be perfected, and that to tribes far enough away the Isles are Legend or Myth
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[21:48] <Kuhl> ∞/10
[21:50] <Shy> AND KUHLFROS SAID UNTO THE EARTH: LET THERE BE SPECIAL SYMBOLS FOR THE RATING OF BLAMESHIFT OUT OF TEN
[21:50] <Shy> AND THE WORLD COMPLIED
[21:50] <Kuhl> I just googled the infinity symbol XD
[21:52] <Kuhl> BUT I WILL GO WITH IT
[21:52] <Shy> ALL HAIL
[21:53] <Shy> THE VIKING GOD KULHFROS
[21:53] <Kuhl> OFF TO VALHALLA

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Postby Azaflaza » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:06 pm

Kuhlfros wrote:
Azaflaza wrote:All my research has only mentioned kings and queen, though it is limited due to the lack of historical records remaining from those times. It keeps things simpler if I just have a central leader to rp. You can do it your way if that's best for you.

There must be some Nordic raiders, if tin merchants from phonecia can reach Cornwall, surely Norse raiders can reach the east coast of britain?

Given that the Gauls are closely connected Celtic cultures from which the Britons are culturally decended, surely its likely they maintain close relations? Plus as explained in my post, this is a point of divergence where contact with continental Gauls is increasing earlier due to better protected sea routes leading to Brigantia.


Yeah of course a central leader, but he isnt a King

No not really, The Mediterranean was, well the center of knowledge and culture, and they had ocean-going or jut more hardy vessels, most Barbarian Tribes and Kingdoms were coastal and light, and would be ripped up by a storm in open sea, this includes the Nordics, for at least a century I think the Nordics won't be finding our lands with certainty

Well If Tribes were friendly that would be true, tribes sorted themselves into their own little groups and fought these other ones, or teamed up against the powerful one tribe above the others, and as was said before on ships, yes the Insular Celts are from the Gaullic Celts as descendants, but once again these are tribes, and warlike ones are the ones who survive, that is until the Romans...anyways unless you were teaming up against an enemy or friendly with the other tribes leader like from Blood or something, there was a general mistrust or hate for one another

I use king for simplicity.

My knowledge of Nordic sea vessels in the era isn't anything to speak of so I will assume you are correct and I will change my post to mention coastal raiders in general of which there would have at least been some knocking around.

Trade is a matter of business and you'll find people on an individual basis will trade even with those they don't trust. When britiain and france hated each other they still traded cause each one had things the other needed.

I'm not suggesting Brigantia is opening diplomatic relations with continental tribes, they are just seeing more merchants and traders of continental and Gaulish origin in their ports and with them comes knowledge and ideas.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:07 pm

If you think I am exaggerating the lavishness of the Etruscan dress, you are wrong. You are very, very wrong.

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Postby Kuhlfros » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:14 pm

Azaflaza wrote:
Kuhlfros wrote:
Yeah of course a central leader, but he isnt a King

No not really, The Mediterranean was, well the center of knowledge and culture, and they had ocean-going or jut more hardy vessels, most Barbarian Tribes and Kingdoms were coastal and light, and would be ripped up by a storm in open sea, this includes the Nordics, for at least a century I think the Nordics won't be finding our lands with certainty

Well If Tribes were friendly that would be true, tribes sorted themselves into their own little groups and fought these other ones, or teamed up against the powerful one tribe above the others, and as was said before on ships, yes the Insular Celts are from the Gaullic Celts as descendants, but once again these are tribes, and warlike ones are the ones who survive, that is until the Romans...anyways unless you were teaming up against an enemy or friendly with the other tribes leader like from Blood or something, there was a general mistrust or hate for one another

I use king for simplicity.

My knowledge of Nordic sea vessels in the era isn't anything to speak of so I will assume you are correct and I will change my post to mention coastal raiders in general of which there would have at least been some knocking around.

Trade is a matter of business and you'll find people on an individual basis will trade even with those they don't trust. When britiain and france hated each other they still traded cause each one had things the other needed.

I'm not suggesting Brigantia is opening diplomatic relations with continental tribes, they are just seeing more merchants and traders of continental and Gaulish origin in their ports and with them comes knowledge and ideas.

Fair enough I guess
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[21:48] <Kuhl> ∞/10
[21:50] <Shy> AND KUHLFROS SAID UNTO THE EARTH: LET THERE BE SPECIAL SYMBOLS FOR THE RATING OF BLAMESHIFT OUT OF TEN
[21:50] <Shy> AND THE WORLD COMPLIED
[21:50] <Kuhl> I just googled the infinity symbol XD
[21:52] <Kuhl> BUT I WILL GO WITH IT
[21:52] <Shy> ALL HAIL
[21:53] <Shy> THE VIKING GOD KULHFROS
[21:53] <Kuhl> OFF TO VALHALLA

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:19 pm

Hmm, Etruscan ambitions in Cyprus. Curious.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:23 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hmm, Etruscan ambitions in Cyprus. Curious.


I said Crete, but Cyprus is up there too.

Also, is Egypt retreating from Palestine? You still need to sort that whole thing out IC...
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:26 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hmm, Etruscan ambitions in Cyprus. Curious.


I said Crete, but Cyprus is up there too.

Also, is Egypt retreating from Palestine? You still need to sort that whole thing out IC...


IIRC the Ptolemies are pulling back from Judea in the context of victory of the coalition over Antigonus, in accordance with the agreements of the coalition (even though Ptolemy didn't send troops to the battle itself).
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Postby Reatra » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:29 pm

So... was Iverni accepted?

Honestly I'd hate to have to spend hours gathering research for Velabris (or something) when Iverni is relatively easy to find info on.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:30 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
I said Crete, but Cyprus is up there too.

Also, is Egypt retreating from Palestine? You still need to sort that whole thing out IC...


IIRC the Ptolemies are pulling back from Judea in the context of victory of the coalition over Antigonus, in accordance with the agreements of the coalition (even though Ptolemy didn't send troops to the battle itself).


Ah, I was a bit confused because it said there was no friction between the two.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:31 pm

Reatra wrote:So... was Iverni accepted?

Honestly I'd hate to have to spend hours gathering research for Velabris (or something) when Iverni is relatively easy to find info on.


It's practically the same thing, and the app is fine. I was just telling you that on the nations list it is under a different name.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:31 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
IIRC the Ptolemies are pulling back from Judea in the context of victory of the coalition over Antigonus, in accordance with the agreements of the coalition (even though Ptolemy didn't send troops to the battle itself).


Ah, I was a bit confused because it said there was no friction between the two.


No friction between the forces pulling back and the new garrison troops, meaning Seleuces hasn't heard of them actively killing each other haha.
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Postby The NAR » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:31 pm

So guys, what do you think Sparta's chances are at forging an Empire?
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:32 pm

The NAR wrote:So guys, what do you think Sparta's chances are at forging an Empire?


A fragile 50/50 right about now.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:33 pm

The NAR wrote:So guys, what do you think Sparta's chances are at forging an Empire?


Depends how you define "empire", really.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:34 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The NAR wrote:So guys, what do you think Sparta's chances are at forging an Empire?


Depends how you define "empire", really.


I was thinking it more along the lines of "whichever king wins"

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Postby The NAR » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:35 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The NAR wrote:So guys, what do you think Sparta's chances are at forging an Empire?


Depends how you define "empire", really.

Well first I plan to ally with Athens and secretly divide up Greece. Peace with Athens will allow me to strengthen my grip of the Peloponnesian League without their interface, turning the independent city States into Spartan Territories. Then I plan to possibly capture large portions of Greece and keep Macedonia from treating us like clients
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:37 pm

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G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Depends how you define "empire", really.

Well first I plan to ally with Athens and secretly divide up Greece. Peace with Athens will allow me to strengthen my grip of the Peloponnesian League without their interface, turning the independent city States into Spartan Territories. Then I plan to possibly capture large portions of Greece and keep Macedonia from treating us like clients


Hmm, good luck with getting the Athenians to cooperate.
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Postby The NAR » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:37 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The NAR wrote:Well first I plan to ally with Athens and secretly divide up Greece. Peace with Athens will allow me to strengthen my grip of the Peloponnesian League without their interface, turning the independent city States into Spartan Territories. Then I plan to possibly capture large portions of Greece and keep Macedonia from treating us like clients


Hmm, good luck with getting the Athenians to cooperate.


I had a conversation via Telegram with the Athenian Player
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Postby Reatra » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:38 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The NAR wrote:Well first I plan to ally with Athens and secretly divide up Greece. Peace with Athens will allow me to strengthen my grip of the Peloponnesian League without their interface, turning the independent city States into Spartan Territories. Then I plan to possibly capture large portions of Greece and keep Macedonia from treating us like clients


Hmm, good luck with getting the Athenians to cooperate.


But Sparta's benefits come from being a city-state, owning lots of territory means they have lots more angry slaves and peasants compared to their army than they had before.
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Postby The NAR » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:39 pm

Reatra wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm, good luck with getting the Athenians to cooperate.


But Sparta's benefits come from being a city-state, owning lots of territory means they have lots more angry slaves and peasants compared to their army than they had before.


Rome did it.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:40 pm

Reatra wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm, good luck with getting the Athenians to cooperate.


But Sparta's benefits come from being a city-state, owning lots of territory means they have lots more angry slaves and peasants compared to their army than they had before.


But then they get more Helots

Also, I made the longest post and it has musical accompaniment!

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Postby Kuhlfros » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:40 pm

Ah first post is up, the greatsword of the Caledonians must reach far
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[21:50] <Shy> AND KUHLFROS SAID UNTO THE EARTH: LET THERE BE SPECIAL SYMBOLS FOR THE RATING OF BLAMESHIFT OUT OF TEN
[21:50] <Shy> AND THE WORLD COMPLIED
[21:50] <Kuhl> I just googled the infinity symbol XD
[21:52] <Kuhl> BUT I WILL GO WITH IT
[21:52] <Shy> ALL HAIL
[21:53] <Shy> THE VIKING GOD KULHFROS
[21:53] <Kuhl> OFF TO VALHALLA

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:40 pm

The NAR wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm, good luck with getting the Athenians to cooperate.


I had a conversation via Telegram with the Athenian Player


Oh? That's interesting. I'm curious as to how your civilian populations will deal with that.
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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:44 pm

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:44 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Reatra wrote:
But Sparta's benefits come from being a city-state, owning lots of territory means they have lots more angry slaves and peasants compared to their army than they had before.


But then they get more Helots

Also, I made the longest post and it has musical accompaniment!


Pthaft. Cut out dialogue padding and messages and your post is shorter than mine.

Does the League have a history of women as leaders?
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