Age of Roma: 300 BCE (OOC/Signups) Open

[Alouite]

I came to this late, but are Tibet or the Xiongnu open?

Both are, yes.

[Kuhlfros]

Just saw the thing about populations, mind if I increase the size of pop on my app...

[Aden Protectorate]

I came to this late, but are Tibet or the Xiongnu open?

Both are, yes.

Cool. Any significant developments I should know of?

[Alouite]

Just saw the thing about populations, mind if I increase the sizecof pop on my app...

Only if it is reasonable. But I'd give it a shot if I were you, better shoot for the stars and miss than not try at all.

[Alouite]

Both are, yes.

Cool. Any significant developments I should know of?

The IC literally just began.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

I came to this late, but are Tibet or the Xiongnu open?

Every tribe in Tibet and the whole of the Xiongnu confederation are open.

[Kuhlfros]

Just saw the thing about populations, mind if I increase the sizecof pop on my app...

Only if it is reasonable. But I'd give it a shot if I were you, better shoot for the stars and miss than not try at all.

I am gonna increase to like 40-60k I think

[The NAR]

Cool. Any significant developments I should know of?

The IC literally just began.

Where's the link

[Azaflaza]

It's not an literal statement, it's a metaphor to make the modifier sound cooler haha.
Which ones do you want weakened and how so?

I won't give you dominance over all other naval powers in Britain. But you will be allowed to dominate coastal raiders, oh, and since you likely have the biggest fleet anyways you wouldn't need a modifier to dominate the seas nearby. Post yourself doing that and it will trigger a modifier, most IC posts have potential for me to create new modifiers from. Negative ones will be added in red.

Ah I didn't realise modifiers could be added at any point, I thought you just get the ones you start with, in which case I can develop my naval dominance later which is no problem
I will put up the first post now.

[Aden Protectorate]

I came to this late, but are Tibet or the Xiongnu open?

Every tribe in Tibet and the whole of the Xiongnu confederation are open.

Okay. Cool. I am unsure on the state of Tibet at this time. I know quite a bit about the Xiongnu however I would like to know a little more about Tibet. Anything I should know?

[Alouite]

The IC literally just began.

Where's the link

I lost it. I swear iI had it. I think I left it in the car.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=333351

[Reatra]

Did you see my Iverni app?

Honestly, I think that name for the southern Irish tribe is weird. That tribe historically is said to have owned Dublin, and yet they own Munster and Leinster and such. Iverni was far more influential and easier to learn the history of than the other ones Ptolemy described.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Did you see my Iverni app?

Honestly, I think that name for the southern Irish tribe is weird. That tribe historically is said to have owned Dublin, and yet they own Munster and Leinster and such. Iverni was far more influential and easier to learn the history of than the other ones Ptolemy described.

Dublin, eh?

[Azaflaza]

Shameless plagurism from GOT haha I will stop with that there!

[Azaflaza]

Highlanders life- like the Picts in the north, the Brigantes are primarily located in mountainous regions which gives them a familiarity with living and fighting in these terrains. Bonus when fighting in highland terrain or fighting an enemy without this modifier.

King in the north- king of Brigantia rules over a huge amount of land equating to pretty much all of Northern England, as such he is powerful and influencial. Bonus to public relations with the king throughout the british isles making conquered populations quick to be subdued.

North/South divide- the hardships and struggles of life in Brigantia has created a cultural divide between the northern Kingdom and the southern kingdoms, as such a rivalry exists between the two regions. Disadvantage of diplomacy with southern kingdoms

Brigantia rules the waves- with an extensive coastline to defend from Nordic raiders and the typical marine associations with a islander culture, the Brigantes hold the strongest fleet in Britain. Bonus when fighting Coastal raiders.

202- updated modifiers for Brigantia

[Kuhlfros]

Ach the OCD
Azaflaza plz, I know it doesn't matter much but it bothers me, So I will just let you know

1st Confederations like Myself and Yours don't have Kings
2nd Norse aren't Raiding, There are no Vikings, most don't know that the Isles exist yet
3rd I think the Tribes of the British Isles know of the Coastal Gaulic Groups along the English Channel but not much more

[Reatra]

Did you see my Iverni app?

Honestly, I think that name for the southern Irish tribe is weird. That tribe historically is said to have owned Dublin, and yet they own Munster and Leinster and such. Iverni was far more influential and easier to learn the history of than the other ones Ptolemy described.

Dublin, eh?

1. Wikipedia you liar

2. How the hell did I not see that map.

Still, it's easier to find information for Iverni, Velabri was sort of just there according to what we know. I doubt that they we're just there, but still, way easier.

[The NAR]

Post is up. Athens, it regards you

[Azaflaza]

Ach the OCD
Azaflaza plz, I know it doesn't matter much but it bothers me, So I will just let you know

1st Confederations like Myself and Yours don't have Kings
2nd Norse aren't Raiding, There are no Vikings, most don't know the
3rd I think the Tribes of the British Isles know of the Coastal Gaulic Groups along the English Channel but not much more

All my research has only mentioned kings and queen, though it is limited due to the lack of historical records remaining from those times. It keeps things simpler if I just have a central leader to rp. You can do it your way if that's best for you.

There must be some Nordic raiders, if tin merchants from phonecia can reach Cornwall, surely Norse raiders can reach the east coast of britain?

Given that the Gauls are closely connected Celtic cultures from which the Britons are culturally decended, surely its likely they maintain close relations? Plus as explained in my post, this is a point of divergence where contact with continental Gauls is increasing earlier due to better protected sea routes leading to Brigantia.

[Reatra]

Ach the OCD
Azaflaza plz, I know it doesn't matter much but it bothers me, So I will just let you know

1st Confederations like Myself and Yours don't have Kings
2nd Norse aren't Raiding, There are no Vikings, most don't know the
3rd I think the Tribes of the British Isles know of the Coastal Gaulic Groups along the English Channel but not much more

All my research has only mentioned kings and queen, though it is limited due to the lack of historical records remaining from those times. It keeps things simpler if I just have a central leader to rp. You can do it your way if that's best for you.

There must be some Nordic raiders, if tin merchants from phonecia can reach Cornwall, surely Norse raiders can reach the east coast of britain?

Given that the Gauls are closely connected Celtic cultures from which the Britons are culturally decended, surely its likely they maintain close relations? Plus as explained in my post, this is a point of divergence where contact with continental Gauls is increasing earlier due to better protected sea routes leading to Brigantia.

The Norse don't have the shipbuilding technology they are famed for yet. The Phoenicians do.

WHat does culture have to do with it? Technically Japanese culture is descended from Tang Dynasty China, as is modern Chinese culture, but do they "maintain close relations"? The most, as was already said, would be knowledge of the coastal tribes, unless you had a lots of merchants penetrating inland, which you don't.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Dublin, eh?

1. Wikipedia you liar

2. How the hell did I not see that map.

Still, it's easier to find information for Iverni, Velabri was sort of just there according to what we know. I doubt that they we're just there, but still, way easier.

What map are you using? So far, every map I see has the Eblani as a Dublin-area, more or less.

[Kuhlfros]

Ach the OCD
Azaflaza plz, I know it doesn't matter much but it bothers me, So I will just let you know

1st Confederations like Myself and Yours don't have Kings
2nd Norse aren't Raiding, There are no Vikings, most don't know the
3rd I think the Tribes of the British Isles know of the Coastal Gaulic Groups along the English Channel but not much more

All my research has only mentioned kings and queen, though it is limited due to the lack of historical records remaining from those times. It keeps things simpler if I just have a central leader to rp. You can do it your way if that's best for you.

There must be some Nordic raiders, if tin merchants from phonecia can reach Cornwall, surely Norse raiders can reach the east coast of britain?

Given that the Gauls are closely connected Celtic cultures from which the Britons are culturally decended, surely its likely they maintain close relations? Plus as explained in my post, this is a point of divergence where contact with continental Gauls is increasing earlier due to better protected sea routes leading to Brigantia.

Yeah of course a central leader, but he isnt a King

No not really, The Mediterranean was, well the center of knowledge and culture, and they had ocean-going or jut more hardy vessels, most Barbarian Tribes and Kingdoms were coastal and light, and would be ripped up by a storm in open sea, this includes the Nordics, for at least a century I think the Nordics won't be finding our lands with certainty

Well If Tribes were friendly that would be true, tribes sorted themselves into their own little groups and fought these other ones, or teamed up against the powerful one tribe above the others, and as was said before on ships, yes the Insular Celts are from the Gaullic Celts as descendants, but once again these are tribes, and warlike ones are the ones who survive, that is until the Romans...anyways unless you were teaming up against an enemy or friendly with the other tribes leader like from Blood or something, there was a general mistrust or hate for one another

[Reatra]

All my research has only mentioned kings and queen, though it is limited due to the lack of historical records remaining from those times. It keeps things simpler if I just have a central leader to rp. You can do it your way if that's best for you.

There must be some Nordic raiders, if tin merchants from phonecia can reach Cornwall, surely Norse raiders can reach the east coast of britain?

Given that the Gauls are closely connected Celtic cultures from which the Britons are culturally decended, surely its likely they maintain close relations? Plus as explained in my post, this is a point of divergence where contact with continental Gauls is increasing earlier due to better protected sea routes leading to Brigantia.

Yeah of course a central leader, but he isnt a King

No not really, The Mediterranean was, well the center of knowledge and culture, and they had ocean-going or jut more hardy vessels, most Barbarian Tribes and Kingdoms were coastal and light, and would be ripped up by a storm in open sea, this includes the Nordics, for at least a century I think the Nordics won't be finding our lands with certainty

Well If Tribes were friendly that would be true, tribes sorted themselves into their own little groups and fought these other ones, or teamed up against the powerful one tribe above the others, and as was said before on ships, yes the Insular Celts are from the Gaullic Celts as descendants, but once again these are tribes, and warlike ones are the ones who survive, that is until the Romans...anyways unless you were teaming up against an enemy or friendly with the other tribes leader like from Blood or something, there was a general mistrust or hate for one another

Actually, Irish and Briton seacraft were quite good at oceangoing, I forget who but this Greek cartographer took a Galley to Galicia, a Gallic craft to Britain, and a Briton hide canoe to somewhere near Orkney, and went further to "where the sea turned to milk". The Briton craft were basically hide stretched over a frame, but their simplicity is the reason they survived a storm, they simply rolled over the waves, and everyone got seasick, but otherwise they were fine.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Yeah of course a central leader, but he isnt a King

No not really, The Mediterranean was, well the center of knowledge and culture, and they had ocean-going or jut more hardy vessels, most Barbarian Tribes and Kingdoms were coastal and light, and would be ripped up by a storm in open sea, this includes the Nordics, for at least a century I think the Nordics won't be finding our lands with certainty

Well If Tribes were friendly that would be true, tribes sorted themselves into their own little groups and fought these other ones, or teamed up against the powerful one tribe above the others, and as was said before on ships, yes the Insular Celts are from the Gaullic Celts as descendants, but once again these are tribes, and warlike ones are the ones who survive, that is until the Romans...anyways unless you were teaming up against an enemy or friendly with the other tribes leader like from Blood or something, there was a general mistrust or hate for one another

Actually, Irish and Briton seacraft were quite good at oceangoing, I forget who but this Greek cartographer took a Galley to Galicia, a Gallic craft to Britain, and a Briton hide canoe to somewhere near Orkney, and went further to "where the sea turned to milk". The Briton craft were basically hide stretched over a frame, but their simplicity is the reason they survived a storm, they simply rolled over the waves, and everyone got seasick, but otherwise they were fine.

Good for exploration, not so good in a fight unfortunately. The Veneti were also said to have some of the best ships one could find, and Commentarii claims they were superior to even Roman ships. Venice has a long tradition of that.

[Reatra]

Actually, Irish and Briton seacraft were quite good at oceangoing, I forget who but this Greek cartographer took a Galley to Galicia, a Gallic craft to Britain, and a Briton hide canoe to somewhere near Orkney, and went further to "where the sea turned to milk". The Briton craft were basically hide stretched over a frame, but their simplicity is the reason they survived a storm, they simply rolled over the waves, and everyone got seasick, but otherwise they were fine.

Good for exploration, not so good in a fight unfortunately. The Veneti were also said to have some of the best ships one could find, and Commentarii claims they were superior to even Roman ships. Venice has a long tradition of that.

Maybe if I was still Liguria I could switcharoo with Cathaginian protection

(IRL they did love Liguria, best natural harbor that side of Italia)