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Should we do a separate thread for the Brussels Conference?

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I don't care.
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Sveltlana
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Postby Sveltlana » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:50 am

Alsheb wrote:Question: tha map isn't entirely clear on this. Which side of the Russian Civil War controls the Russian Caucasus? I assume it's the Bolsheviks?
Important for me to know as Kurdistan.


In Anatolia, it should be a Turkish minority group fighting for its independence.

The Caucasus are White.
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Alsheb
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Postby Alsheb » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:29 am

Sveltlana wrote:
Alsheb wrote:Question: tha map isn't entirely clear on this. Which side of the Russian Civil War controls the Russian Caucasus? I assume it's the Bolsheviks?
Important for me to know as Kurdistan.


In Anatolia, it should be a Turkish minority group fighting for its independence.

The Caucasus are White.


Iiiiinteresting... *writes letter to Lenin*
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:32 am

Alsheb wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:
In Anatolia, it should be a Turkish minority group fighting for its independence.

The Caucasus are White.


Iiiiinteresting... *writes letter to Lenin*

Keep in mind that collaborating with Reds may get you invaded. :P

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:04 am

Alleniana wrote:
Alsheb wrote:
Iiiiinteresting... *writes letter to Lenin*

Keep in mind that collaborating with Reds may get you invaded. :P

:unsure:

everyone's fw Germany goes communist

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South New Caledonia
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Postby South New Caledonia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:16 am

I would like to join :roll:
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:22 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Keep in mind that collaborating with Reds may get you invaded. :P

:unsure:

everyone's fw Germany goes communist

this is entirely true
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you will not be able to handle the butthurt

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Hastiaka
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Postby Hastiaka » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:27 am

would anyone be kind reviewing the first phase of my post in the IC? I want the Netherlands to become a more friendly nation with it's neighbors.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:56 am

Hastiaka wrote:would anyone be kind reviewing the first phase of my post in the IC? I want the Netherlands to become a more friendly nation with it's neighbors.

General notes:
The Kings of the Netherlands had very little to do indeed with either Rotterdam or Amsterdam, both of which were historically (i.e. prior to the true political unification of the Netherlands as a result of the Batavian Revolution) fiercely independent cities with very little interest in maintaining princely rule. Indeed, the Royal institution would traditionally be opposed to any sense of unification with Belgium- as they are the "lost territories" which King Willem I tried fiercely to reclaim- while the States-General might be much more amenable in the face of the Communist threat.

Shipping Indonesian workers to the Netherlands would be a terrible idea both from an operational perspective (they're uneducated workers ATM unsuited to the skilled labour required for shipbuilding) and a political perspective (the novelty of bringing in brown people would very soon wear off, and assuming that you're continuing the "Ethical Policy" that precludes forced displacement of Indonesian workers.)

It is WAAAY to early a stage in the political development of the Netherlands for Indonesia to be granted representation in the States-General. While a general movement in favour of the Ethical Policy may allow for some local governance, they aren't going to be represented in parliament, certainly not on an equal level to WGP members; keep in mind that after the Second World War, a conflict in which the Netherlands lost its independence and was occupied by a foreign power (probably creating the most favourable political climate for further devolution of powers to Indonesia since forever) the only party willing to support Indonesian autonomy and independence in any sense was the Communists.

Reducing discrimination against the Indonesians isn't going to be super relevant so long as the Indo and colonising Dutch population are considered the high point of civilisation in the East Indies.

The Hague, while the political capital of the Netherlands, was entirely secondary in economic and political importance to Amsterdam, and the King stopped having significant political influence in 1850.

The idea of "missionizing" the Indonesians is going to backfire horribly, since most of them care nothing for Dutch colonial institutions in any sense, and I suspect that talk of "local tribes" is something of a fundamental misunderstand of how colonial Indonesia worked.The East Indies were a Wingewest- the objective of their colonisation prior to the introduction of the Ethical Policy (which I must emphasize did not include plan for Christianisation of the Indies) was explicitly intended for profit, not for nationalism or for a civilising mission, which was one of the reasons why colonial administration of the East Indies was generally fairly succesful compared to African counterparts.

From a military perspective, the construction of additional forts in Indonesia is not something I'd recommend- or that the East Indies' colonial government considered necessary. In the absence of an immediate threat to the Indies (Japan is not yet strong enough militarily to project southwards) priority should be placed on the Navy, and when such an immediate threat emerges it would be wiser to invest forces in the creation of a large conventional army instead of trying to build relatively useless emplacements.
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:56 am

Greetings, fellow Scandinavians. I come before you not to speak of joys, nor victories, but of work, toil and strain that shall be our burden to bear. For on our borders, is a threat to us all. I speak of violence, of revolution, of hatred, of extremism.

In every lifetime comes a time when one must either do what is easy, or what is right. I believe that time has come for Scandinavia. Embodied by those struggling and dying in Russia, in France, in Italy, we come to a time in history when bloodshed and disorder is abundant, yet not in our own nation. We, who are luckier, who are more able, are thus granted a responsibility. Shall we, in our prosperity, aid, or ignore those in need? Shall we stand against the tides of all that is evil from man, as all that which is good from man? We, shall we fight against hatred and war, or with it, in complacency?

I do not think Scandinavia is a nation that is mute to the pleas of the world about us. Strife with revolutions seeking to destroy, to oppress, we shall stand united against the evils of the world, the vices of man. Already, our brave men stand on foreign fields against foreign guns. Why? For freedom, and goodwill. For all that is good in the world. When we cease to protect the liberties of others, so too do our own fall. We give unto others what we would have them give unto us, and so we give the gift of peace, in fighting those who would fight.

I do not say that this will be easy. I say that this will be hard, and that we will all make sacrifices. I speak only to ask for your support, and to give unto you this cause for which we fight, united. We will all pay the price, for that is who we are. Many will pay the ultimate price, and I cannot compare myself to them, but I offer myself to this cause, and offer you to do the same.

It was on the principles of justice and equality that our nation was founded, on those principles that our history has run its course. On these principles, I call us all to act. I can see no other choice but to ignore our heritage, to turn our back on mankind. And let it be known that Scandinavia has not turned its back on mankind.


whaddya think?
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:12 am

Alleniana wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:Oh my. The multinational army in Arkhangelsk numbers about 147,500.

help me take petrograd comrades

Over half is the 75k British. :P


I thought there was another force larger than mine?

I will feed my troops with freedom so no worries 8) :lol2:
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Mesrane
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Postby Mesrane » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:23 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:The German government's unofficial opinion is that it has absolutely no chance of retaining independence; i.e. this isn't because of any German policy.

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If you'd agree to become a Romanian protectorate, you wouldn't have to go to war against Romania and I'd protect you from those nasty Reds. And Poles. And Imperial Russia later down the line. You'd still be practically independent except in foreign policy.

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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:24 am

Quite frankly Germoney shouldn't go communist for the sake of balance.

The communist bloc is already larger than it was after WWII (sorry but Warsaw Pact nations were largely irrelevant minus USSR) and wit Germany flipping, there is literally nothing to balance that out.

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Postby Senkaku » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:46 am

I'm starting to see a very Orwellian future for this IC world...


China, Russia, and Japan form a fascist bloc, controlling much of Asia, while Europe and its colonies go socialist or soft-communist, and Columbia eats the Western hemisphere to turn into Oceania.

This should be good.

I need to update the roster.
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Or how about you read the OP? That'd be great, too.
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Lingria
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Postby Lingria » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:50 am

I don't like Communist Europe ;-;
Very bad for Cuba.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:51 am

Romania, Canada, and Guatemala applications are all Accepted.


Lingria wrote:I don't like Communist Europe ;-;
Very bad for Cuba.



Cuba is of Western Hemisphere. Cuba will become of Oceania. :p
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:55 am

Senkaku wrote:I'm starting to see a very Orwellian future for this IC world...


China, Russia, and Japan form a fascist bloc, controlling much of Asia, while Europe and its colonies go socialist or soft-communist, and Columbia eats the Western hemisphere to turn into Oceania.

This should be good.

I need to update the roster.
South New Caledonia wrote:I would like to join :roll:
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635 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

Edit: Application will be ready after Lunch

Or how about you read the OP? That'd be great, too.

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Lingria
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Postby Lingria » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:55 am

Senkaku wrote:Romania, Canada, and Guatemala applications are all Accepted.


Lingria wrote:I don't like Communist Europe ;-;
Very bad for Cuba.



Cuba is of Western Hemisphere. Cuba will become of Oceania. :p

Please of No's. Cuba like independence, Cuba stay independent.
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Postby Kryskov » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:03 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Quite frankly Germoney shouldn't go communist for the sake of balance.

The communist bloc is already larger than it was after WWII (sorry but Warsaw Pact nations were largely irrelevant minus USSR) and wit Germany flipping, there is literally nothing to balance that out.

Agreed.

I think the sense of conservatism in this world is largely associated with the Great War, and so various forms of the left-wing have taken over. I envision a Europe where classically and socially liberal states clash with the hardline communist states.

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South New Caledonia
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Postby South New Caledonia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:31 am

Senkaku wrote:I'm starting to see a very Orwellian future for this IC world...


China, Russia, and Japan form a fascist bloc, controlling much of Asia, while Europe and its colonies go socialist or soft-communist, and Columbia eats the Western hemisphere to turn into Oceania.

This should be good.

I need to update the roster.
South New Caledonia wrote:I would like to join :roll:
Reservation:
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635 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

Edit: Application will be ready after Lunch

Or how about you read the OP? That'd be great, too.

?
I always read the top post, I read it again as requested but I haven't really noticed anything that I didn't see before. Could you kindly point out what I missed/misunderstood?
Edit: 42 is that what you mean? I had to add 42 or is it something else?
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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:57 am

Senkaku wrote:I'm starting to see a very Orwellian future for this IC world...


China, Russia, and Japan form a fascist bloc, controlling much of Asia, while Europe and its colonies go socialist or soft-communist, and Columbia eats the Western hemisphere to turn into Oceania.

This should be good.

I need to update the roster.
South New Caledonia wrote:I would like to join :roll:
Reservation:
Location: 60
Nation Name: Democratic Republic of Myănmar
635 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

Edit: Application will be ready after Lunch

Or how about you read the OP? That'd be great, too.


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Postby Caltarania » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:32 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Keep in mind that collaborating with Reds may get you invaded. :P

:unsure:

everyone's fw Germany goes communist


join yus pl0x

what no columba i am of capitalist

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Quite frankly Germoney shouldn't go communist for the sake of balance.

The communist bloc is already larger than it was after WWII (sorry but Warsaw Pact nations were largely irrelevant minus USSR) and wit Germany flipping, there is literally nothing to balance that out.


So long as Columbia and Britain are capitalist, the Communist bloc is pretty much done for.
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Postby Lingria » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:52 am

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Postby Epraria » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:21 am

I'll try to have a post up by Tuesday.
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Postby Lingria » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:32 am

Senkaku, Do you mind if I use your application code for another Rp that I'm creating?
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Postby Sveltlana » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:37 am

@Alsheb: I don't know if you're aware, but the Russian Empire is dead.

And the White Forces aren't fighting for the Tsar or for the Russian Empire or that kind of nonsense; the White Forces are fighting against the bolsheviks.
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