Midnight in Moscow, Mk. III(OOC/Applications) (OPEN)

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

Is this plan an IC thing, TNL? I don't recall having seen it before.

Yes and no; it represents the general hopes of the German Government with regards to Russia and Austria.

The plan at its most ambitious assumes that all of Germany's eastern Allies will co-operate and Austria will only split in half after a short dispute.

A more realistic version assumes that infighting will be constant and that Austria is completely unsalvageable.

The funniest part is that you think Ruthenia or Lithuania will survive realistically

On a more serious and non-sarcastic note, Poland should comply with Germany whenever the plan goes into effect, so long as nothing too unexpected (i.e random Soviet invasion of Poland or a communist revolt happens) occurs.

[Fortunagen]

dun dun DUN

[Baja California y Sonora]

Any letters that I have to send to anyone other than Belgium?

Pretty sure you owe me one, yes.

[Senkaku]

Oh my. The multinational army in Arkhangelsk numbers about 147,500.

help me take petrograd comrades

I leave you people alone for a few hours...

In the last thread, there were almost no deployments by Europe to Archangelsk. The BESIEGING force numbers not even 50,000. It would take several MONTHS to assemble a force that size there, all by ship under Red fire, and feeding them would be a nightmare, even if Frunze's army starts to fall apart. After months of assembly, half of them are going to starve to death.

Seriously, people, please...

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Any letters that I have to send to anyone other than Belgium?

Pretty sure you owe me one, yes.

True, true. I don't quite remember what I was going to write you about though

[Bujahla]

Colombia's a democracy. Democracies can't fight lengthy offensive wars. Especally ones to remove democratically-elected governments.

Just leave the hell that Russia has become and help us form the United Socialist States of Europe, dammit!

Omg you want to form the USSE too??? Yassss

[New Kvenland]

>germany brought finlan independence
>finland turns bolshevik
i cri everytim

Have no fears, the noble Scandinavians will rid us of those pesky Finns soon enough.

But finland of wantings to ally with them ;-;

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Have no fears, the noble Scandinavians will rid us of those pesky Finns soon enough.

But finland of wantings to ally with them ;-;

They they no like Commies either

[New Kvenland]

But finland of wantings to ally with them ;-;

They they no like Commies either

i will of convincings them to like the nice little quasi-marxist that is me

and if they don't accept me

there's always the baltics

[Tracian Empire]

Yes and no; it represents the general hopes of the German Government with regards to Russia and Austria.

The plan at its most ambitious assumes that all of Germany's eastern Allies will co-operate and Austria will only split in half after a short dispute.

A more realistic version assumes that infighting will be constant and that Austria is completely unsalvageable.

Romania lik 2nd.

Moldavia and Banat nom nom nom nom

What.... Why is Moldavia in Romania?

[Alleniana]

How do you change the color and shape of the point? Like to change it to a square, etc.

Place the cursor over the point in the legend to the left and click on the paint bucket that appears.

Interestingly enough, I never used to be edit these maps using Google Chrome, because the sidebar wouldn't appear and stuff.

Tbh one thing that I've failed to represent accurately since the start of this thread is the fact that the New German Government is very much facing a dilemma w/ regards to what to do with the Socialists.

The new liberal-democratic requiring democracy above all else means that they can't really intervene to suppress the far-left Socialist movement politically, especially so long as the SPD remains the most popular party in the country.

Germany could slide into democratic socialism with one vote.

Legislate some stuff into the constitution that could be used as a buttress for ownership rights (libertyish stuff) and go like LSD in Scandianvia (Liberal Social Democrats) who are about as close to socialism as you can get without actually being socialist. Have that be a firm point, though, so moderate socialists are drawn away from the fringes, despite it not being true socialism.

Oh my. The multinational army in Arkhangelsk numbers about 147,500.

help me take petrograd comrades

Over half is the 75k British.

You're Finland, correct?

help white russia

Correct.

if white Russia is okay with libertarian quasi-marxism and giving Sami and Karelian lands to us, sure

See app comments; marxism is not allowed, not even close

>germany brought finlan independence
>finland turns bolshevik
i cri everytim

Have no fears, the noble Scandinavians will rid us of those pesky Finns soon enough.

Once I put Eesti back in its place, Finland will be nearly entirely surrounded by Scandinavia/Scandinavia-influenced

In the last thread, there were almost no deployments by Europe to Archangelsk.

heh heh skandinavie exception
But yeah, by February, only Scandinavia would have arrived, as per last IC's stuff.

Romania lik 2nd.

Moldavia and Banat nom nom nom nom

What.... Why is Moldavia in Romania?

It... always has been?

[The New Lowlands]

Romania lik 2nd.

Moldavia and Banat nom nom nom nom

What.... Why is Moldavia in Romania?

The German government's unofficial opinion is that it has absolutely no chance of retaining independence; i.e. this isn't because of any German policy.

Tbh one thing that I've failed to represent accurately since the start of this thread is the fact that the New German Government is very much facing a dilemma w/ regards to what to do with the Socialists.

The new liberal-democratic requiring democracy above all else means that they can't really intervene to suppress the far-left Socialist movement politically, especially so long as the SPD remains the most popular party in the country.

Germany could slide into democratic socialism with one vote.

Legislate some stuff into the constitution that could be used as a buttress for ownership rights (libertyish stuff) and go like LSD in Scandianvia (Liberal Social Democrats) who are about as close to socialism as you can get without actually being socialist. Have that be a firm point, though, so moderate socialists are drawn away from the fringes, despite it not being true socialism.

>SPD blocks legislation
reichstag pls qq

What.... Why is Moldavia in Romania?

It... always has been?

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

[Kryskov]

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

2+2=5

[Tracian Empire]

What.... Why is Moldavia in Romania?

The German government's unofficial opinion is that it has absolutely no chance of retaining independence; i.e. this isn't because of any German policy.

Legislate some stuff into the constitution that could be used as a buttress for ownership rights (libertyish stuff) and go like LSD in Scandianvia (Liberal Social Democrats) who are about as close to socialism as you can get without actually being socialist. Have that be a firm point, though, so moderate socialists are drawn away from the fringes, despite it not being true socialism.

>SPD blocks legislation
reichstag pls qq

It... always has been?

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

I am not going to give up on Moldavia's independence. I would agree on some kind of deal, like the organization of the United Principalities of Moldova and Walachia that was proposed in the Treaty of Pari. Two rulers, two governments, same foreign policies and armies, or something like that at least.

[Alleniana]

The German government's unofficial opinion is that it has absolutely no chance of retaining independence; i.e. this isn't because of any German policy.

>SPD blocks legislation
reichstag pls qq

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

I am not going to give up on Moldavia's independence. I would agree on some kind of deal, like the organization of the United Principalities of Moldova and Walachia that was proposed in the Treaty of Pari. Two rulers, two governments, same foreign policies and armies, or something like that at least.

Uh, Moldavia is currently part of Romania. Do you mean Moldova?
edit: WHAT THE FAT ROSTER WHAT ARE YOU DO IS MOLDOVA NOT MOLDAVIA DO YOU EVEN WIKIPEDIA NO PLS
edit2:
Anyway,
"Army: (branches, number of troops, quality of army, etc,) Moldovan Republican Army ( Armata Republicii Moldova) 50.000 men, mostly armed with former Russian weapons. Most of the members were either in the Romanian or Russian Army. The Army is in the middle of a process of modernization and training."
How come 205,000 men are on the CW map then?

[Altito Asmoro]

I am not going to give up on Moldavia's independence. I would agree on some kind of deal, like the organization of the United Principalities of Moldova and Walachia that was proposed in the Treaty of Pari. Two rulers, two governments, same foreign policies and armies, or something like that at least.

Uh, Moldavia is currently part of Romania. Do you mean Moldova?
edit: WHAT THE FAT ROSTER WHAT ARE YOU DO IS MOLDOVA NOT MOLDAVIA DO YOU EVEN WIKIPEDIA NO PLS
edit2:
Anyway,
"Army: (branches, number of troops, quality of army, etc,) Moldovan Republican Army ( Armata Republicii Moldova) 50.000 men, mostly armed with former Russian weapons. Most of the members were either in the Romanian or Russian Army. The Army is in the middle of a process of modernization and training."
How come 205,000 men are on the CW map then?

Conscripts?

[Tracian Empire]

I am not going to give up on Moldavia's independence. I would agree on some kind of deal, like the organization of the United Principalities of Moldova and Walachia that was proposed in the Treaty of Pari. Two rulers, two governments, same foreign policies and armies, or something like that at least.

Uh, Moldavia is currently part of Romania. Do you mean Moldova?
edit: WHAT THE FAT ROSTER WHAT ARE YOU DO IS MOLDOVA NOT MOLDAVIA DO YOU EVEN WIKIPEDIA NO PLS
edit2:
Anyway,
"Army: (branches, number of troops, quality of army, etc,) Moldovan Republican Army ( Armata Republicii Moldova) 50.000 men, mostly armed with former Russian weapons. Most of the members were either in the Romanian or Russian Army. The Army is in the middle of a process of modernization and training."
How come 205,000 men are on the CW map then?

First, I don't know the difference between Moldova and Moldavia. I am with the "Republica Moldova", with the capital at Chisinau. A little bigger then Moldova today.
Yes, I have 50.000 men in the army. The others are militia and conscripts.

[Alleniana]

Uh, Moldavia is currently part of Romania. Do you mean Moldova?
edit: WHAT THE FAT ROSTER WHAT ARE YOU DO IS MOLDOVA NOT MOLDAVIA DO YOU EVEN WIKIPEDIA NO PLS
edit2:
Anyway,
"Army: (branches, number of troops, quality of army, etc,) Moldovan Republican Army ( Armata Republicii Moldova) 50.000 men, mostly armed with former Russian weapons. Most of the members were either in the Romanian or Russian Army. The Army is in the middle of a process of modernization and training."
How come 205,000 men are on the CW map then?

First, I don't know the difference between Moldova and Moldavia. I am with the "Republica Moldova", with the capital at Chisinau. A little bigger then Moldova today.
Yes, I have 50.000 men in the army. The others are militia and conscripts.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavia
2. You've raised over 10% of your population as a military force?

[Tracian Empire]

First, I don't know the difference between Moldova and Moldavia. I am with the "Republica Moldova", with the capital at Chisinau. A little bigger then Moldova today.
Yes, I have 50.000 men in the army. The others are militia and conscripts.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavia
2. You've raised over 10% of your population as a military force?

1. I know the difference between the historical coubtry, the region and the country from today, I am from Romania. I don't know the difference between the English words.
2. On one side I have the Russians, on the other the Romanians. Both want to conquer me. My chances of survival are pretty small. Of course that I will raise that much people in the military force.

[Alleniana]

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavia
2. You've raised over 10% of your population as a military force?

Uhh...?

[Tracian Empire]

Uhh...?

I don't know what happened. I edited it again and wrote what I wanted.

[Alleniana]

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavia
2. You've raised over 10% of your population as a military force?

1. I know the difference between the historical coubtry, the region and the country from today, I am from Romania. I don't know the difference between the English words.
2. On one side I have the Russians, on the other the Romanians. Both want to conquer me. My chances of survival are pretty small. Of course that I will raise that much people in the military force.

1. Oh, hmm. I just figure it would be less confusing to use the conventional definitions.
2. Except for the fact that your people would slowly starve to death, because there's not enough people working?
I've got to go shower, but in my capacity as co-op, I'm saying 205,000 actives is ridiculous for a country that isn't particularly developed or prosperous, unless said country is nearly falling apart at the seams (and if you want to go that far, you can, but that's what will be happening)

[Tracian Empire]

1. I know the difference between the historical coubtry, the region and the country from today, I am from Romania. I don't know the difference between the English words.
2. On one side I have the Russians, on the other the Romanians. Both want to conquer me. My chances of survival are pretty small. Of course that I will raise that much people in the military force.

1. Oh, hmm. I just figure it would be less confusing to use the conventional definitions.
2. Except for the fact that your people would slowly starve to death, because there's not enough people working?
I've got to go shower, but in my capacity as co-op, I'm saying 205,000 actives is ridiculous for a country that isn't particularly developed or prosperous, unless said country is nearly falling apart at the seams (and if you want to go that far, you can, but that's what will be happening)

I don't know. This is what I said in the app. 50.000 soldiers and 150.000 militia. Tell me what number would be plausible.

[Alleniana]

1. Oh, hmm. I just figure it would be less confusing to use the conventional definitions.
2. Except for the fact that your people would slowly starve to death, because there's not enough people working?
I've got to go shower, but in my capacity as co-op, I'm saying 205,000 actives is ridiculous for a country that isn't particularly developed or prosperous, unless said country is nearly falling apart at the seams (and if you want to go that far, you can, but that's what will be happening)

I don't know. This is what I said in the app. 50.000 soldiers and 150.000 militia. Tell me what number would be plausible.

Actual trained soldiers could be around 2%, militia, more; perhaps 5% added on. Any more than that, and you'd be risking the stability/existence of your state, though some circumstances might induce you to do that.

[Alsheb]

Question: tha map isn't entirely clear on this. Which side of the Russian Civil War controls the Russian Caucasus? I assume it's the Bolsheviks?
Important for me to know as Kurdistan.