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Should we do a separate thread for the Brussels Conference?

Yes.
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No.
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I don't care.
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Bonobos
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Total votes : 28

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Sveltlana
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Postby Sveltlana » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:24 pm

Oh my. The multinational army in Arkhangelsk numbers about 147,500.

help me take petrograd comrades
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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:24 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
I can do it for you, Hannover.

What edits do you need done and where? Just place down markers and like put a 666 in their name and I will go edit them for you and change their colors and shapes to whatever you want and rename them once I am finished.


Alright, thank you!

I added the point in. It's in that cluster of foreign troops near Scandinavia. Also, there is another point in the Baltic sea near Estonia.

Thanks again! :hug:


Both fixed.

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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:25 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Alright, thank you!

I added the point in. It's in that cluster of foreign troops near Scandinavia. Also, there is another point in the Baltic sea near Estonia.

Thanks again! :hug:


Both fixed.


Yay! Thank you! Britain into some relevance...for once XD
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New Kvenland
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Postby New Kvenland » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:25 pm

Sveltlana wrote:
New Kvenland wrote:
Does border-guarding count?


Yes.


Alright. I'll add some as soon as I get back to my computer.
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Sveltlana
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Postby Sveltlana » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:26 pm

New Kvenland wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:
Yes.


Alright. I'll add some as soon as I get back to my computer.


You're Finland, correct?

help white russia
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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:27 pm

Hmmm.

Belgium should be contributing.

A force of 250-1,000 men should suffice. I'll have them sent to wherever the British fleet is landing.

Where is the British fleet landing?

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:29 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Hmmm.

Belgium should be contributing.

A force of 250-1,000 men should suffice. I'll have them sent to wherever the British fleet is landing.

Where is the British fleet landing?


The one in the Baltic? That one is supposed to blockade any entrance or exit of the Reds. However, if you need to land, the fleet can go to wherever you need to land
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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:30 pm

Hmm, I think I'll just send 250 men to Arkhangelsk to be put under the command of the Brits.

I'll load them up on my frigates and send them off.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:31 pm

Sveltlana wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:I don't think that there's a Hungarian Uprising… I was namely under the impression that the Hungarians had already seized control over half of the country and that it was no longer possible to save the Austrian Empire in any meaningful sense.

Hence generalplan Ost-Sud involves giving independence to minorities to try and ensure none of them turn towards Communism by encouraging internal nationalist struggles and anschluss


Is this plan an IC thing, TNL? I don't recall having seen it before.

Yes and no; it represents the general hopes of the German Government with regards to Russia and Austria.

The plan at its most ambitious assumes that all of Germany's eastern Allies will co-operate and Austria will only split in half after a short dispute.

A more realistic version assumes that infighting will be constant and that Austria is completely unsalvageable.

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New Kvenland
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Postby New Kvenland » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:33 pm

Sveltlana wrote:
New Kvenland wrote:
Alright. I'll add some as soon as I get back to my computer.


You're Finland, correct?

help white russia


Correct.

if white Russia is okay with libertarian quasi-marxism and giving Sami and Karelian lands to us, sure
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:34 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Hmm, I think I'll just send 250 men to Arkhangelsk to be put under the command of the Brits.

I'll load them up on my frigates and send them off.


Cool!

We will be waiting for your arrival
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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:34 pm

finland cannot into independence if communist :u

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New Kvenland
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Postby New Kvenland » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:37 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:finland cannot into independence if communist :u


but we r of binevulent marxist

i cri
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Postby Mesrane » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:37 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:
Is this plan an IC thing, TNL? I don't recall having seen it before.

Yes and no; it represents the general hopes of the German Government with regards to Russia and Austria.

The plan at its most ambitious assumes that all of Germany's eastern Allies will co-operate and Austria will only split in half after a short dispute.

A more realistic version assumes that infighting will be constant and that Austria is completely unsalvageable.

Romania lik 2nd.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:37 pm

New Kvenland wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:finland cannot into independence if communist :u


but we r of binevulent marxist

i cri

>germany brought finlan independence
>finland turns bolshevik
i cri everytim

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Kryskov
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Postby Kryskov » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:43 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:I don't think that there's a Hungarian Uprising… I was namely under the impression that the Hungarians had already seized control over half of the country and that it was no longer possible to save the Austrian Empire in any meaningful sense.

Hence generalplan Ost-Sud involves giving independence to minorities to try and ensure none of them turn towards Communism by encouraging internal nationalist struggles and anschluss

I was under the exact opposite impression. I mean, Hungary was only mentioned in the OP of the Old IC, so I would think it unreasonable to extrapolate the results of such a rebellion when it was never really addressed.

The New Lowlands wrote:Yes and no; it represents the general hopes of the German Government with regards to Russia and Austria.

This is a very hard situation to look at. Part of the problem with many nationalities IRL was that Hungary, for little reason beside violent threat, was given this great elevated position. This made people like the Czechs and Croatians pretty jealous (not to mention that Croatia, Galicia, and Transylvania were all suddenly thrust under a Hungarian government with different structure and ethics. ITTL, the Austrian government did occaisionally appoint Czechs, Croatians, and Hungarians to government positions, but there wasn't this big sense of favoritism (except for Austrians, of course). I would have the feeling that, in the wake of such a large victory, presumably without a massive call of self-determination as in Wilson's 14 points (correct me if I'm wrong on this, I don't know all the terms of our version of the WWI peace), with a drainage of manpower so huge, and with an Austrian Kaiser who is willing to address grievances, the Hungarians wouldn't be so totally mobile as to make a successful revolt in 3 months, not to mention that I was accepted with no mention of a revolutionary government (I forgot a rebellion existed). I don't see this as too far beyond compromise. Charles was a desperate leader praying to cling on to his ancestral title and claims.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:45 pm

Well, of course, it's your country and I wasn't really clear on what was going on down south anyway.

Nonetheless I horrifiedly await a yugoslav-style collapse. :p

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:47 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
New Kvenland wrote:
but we r of binevulent marxist

i cri

>germany brought finlan independence
>finland turns bolshevik
i cri everytim


Have no fears, the noble Scandinavians will rid us of those pesky Finns soon enough.

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Postby Kryskov » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:47 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:Well, of course, it's your country and I wasn't really clear on what was going on down south anyway.

Nonetheless I horrifiedly await a yugoslav-style collapse. :p

I don't think anyone quite knows :P

Expect to be somewhat disappointed, then.

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Postby Of The Rnclave » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:49 pm

Sveltlana wrote:Oh my. The multinational army in Arkhangelsk numbers about 147,500.

help me take petrograd comrades


Columbia will fight till the end, and in the case of White Russian victory, will invest heavily in Russian markets and move industry to your nation, as well, we will pay it get you back on your feet and I prove your infastructure :p
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Fortunagen
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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:51 pm

Y'all what's the situation in Petrograd?
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Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


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Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:52 pm

Any letters that I have to send to anyone other than Belgium?
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:53 pm

Fortunagen wrote:Y'all what's the situation in Petrograd?


Strongly held by the Reds, but that could potentially change if the other nations turn their attention to it once their armies are successful, should they be successful.

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Postby Kryskov » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:54 pm

Mesrane wrote:Hmm. Decisions.

Yeah, If you consent to return most or all of Romania annexed post-war, then I can send an expeditionary force to assist ye. And a non-agression pact, why not.

Wait, let's get this straight. Romania's Transylvania region came from Austria-Hungary after WWI as a concession. You actually have MORE land than you're supposed to. I annexed no land from you. I would be selling you part of de jure Austrian Empire... not land that I took from you. I've had that land since you were but a wee Moldavia & Wallachia.

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Postby Mesrane » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:58 pm

Kryskov wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Hmm. Decisions.

Yeah, If you consent to return most or all of Romania annexed post-war, then I can send an expeditionary force to assist ye. And a non-agression pact, why not.

Wait, let's get this straight. Romania's Transylvania region came from Austria-Hungary after WWI as a concession. You actually have MORE land than you're supposed to. I annexed no land from you. I would be selling you part of de jure Austrian Empire... not land that I took from you. I've had that land since you were but a wee Moldavia & Wallachia.

Ahhh . . That map I used was awfully wrong, then. I'll have to edit my history too.

Anyways, I'll consider purchasing additional land in return for helping you, yes.
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