NATION

PASSWORD

Midnight in Moscow, Mk. III(OOC/Applications) (OPEN)

For all of your non-NationStates related roleplaying needs!

Advertisement

Remove ads

Should we do a separate thread for the Brussels Conference?

Yes.
10
36%
No.
2
7%
I don't care.
6
21%
Bonobos
10
36%
 
Total votes : 28

User avatar
Senkaku
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 25688
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:16 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Senkaku wrote:It's becoming clear to me I should've reviewed GCCS's app more carefully and given him a clearer picture on what Khmer is.

Khmer has multiple rebellions, probably particularly in the Laotian and Thai regions, in addition to political turmoil, financial trouble, a weak economy, foreign powers circling like vultures (including, in all likelihood, agents of the FSR and Third Republic waiting to try and reclaim their old colony), and a generally weak and unsteady government.



Well, marginally better (if you can buy them with your nonexistent money or convince a foreign power to just give them to you and not just take over). You'll still be basically the Iraq of the Far East- Vietnamese, Hmong, Khmer, Thai, all thrown together in a state with little authority and no respect or devotion from the people. It's lines on a map, not a cohesive nation.
I'll say it again: Khmer should be basically just struggling to survive, not industrializing and building stronk armies. The government has no money, a weak army, and you're resource-rich, so any European power you invite in is going to immediately recognize that it'd be better for them to just take over (which'd be pretty damn easy). You have a stronk Japan right nearby and an increasingly resurgent China, and loads of rebels and political dissidents. If Khmer doesn't go the same way my Ikh Mongol Uls went in New Imperialism 2, I will be slightly surprised, although there is a chance it could struggle onwards. But you've already had a palace coup in the first post, which is hardly promising. If you're playing Khmer, you're gonna need to be writing a lot of political intrigue stuff.

Assuming, of course, that no one invades you.

Well, it wasn't exactly a coup, to give a clear picture. The heir to the throne basically made sure his father placed all the powers of the emperor on his shoulders, so that effective rule could take place. The emperor is dying, struck by disease. It isn't really a coup, more like early succession.

It reads like a coup, which I don't think is a bad thing. I think there should be political back-and-forth in Khmer; unhealthy amounts of it in fact. As I keep saying, Khmer cannot into stability.
agreed honey. send bees

User avatar
Alleniana
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42864
Founded: Dec 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Alleniana » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Alleniana wrote:edit: for Khmer, what state is it in? I understand its unstable and poor, but due to what? Rebels along ethnic, political, what lines?

It's becoming clear to me I should've reviewed GCCS's app more carefully and given him a clearer picture on what Khmer is.

Khmer has multiple rebellions, probably particularly in the Laotian and Thai regions, in addition to political turmoil, financial trouble, a weak economy, foreign powers circling like vultures (including, in all likelihood, agents of the FSR and Third Republic waiting to try and reclaim their old colony), and a generally weak and unsteady government.

Well, I mean, if Khmer is to be playable, its government has to have some degree of power. Else, we might as well mark it white on the map.
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Alleniana wrote:UK + Germany + Columbia + Russia (Civil War) + Japan + China vs France (Civil War) + Italy + Spain (Civil War)
Which is unbalanced towards the capitalists throughout the Americas and Asia, but fairly balanced in Europe
UK + Columbia + Russia (Civil War) + Japan + China vs France (Civil War) + Italy + Spain (Civil War) + Germany
Which is entirely unbalanced towards the socialists in Europe, and unbalanced towards the capitalists everywhere else. Only problem is that Europe is kind of the centre of the world.


I think that Columbia should only be counted in that side though. European nations right now are in very bad shape to do anything. A little push and they tip into collapse.

Hardly. Germany is stronk as hell, and even Italy is apparently firmly Red.
Fortunagen wrote:Allen, what should be done with estonia

see next post of mine
eta; half hour okey okey
Senkaku wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
The solution would be a socialist/communist/lefty GP in Asia, which means either China or Japan.

It doesn't actually need to be perfectly balanced, guys.

The actual World Wars were pretty unbalanced, if you think about it.

I did suggest that Germany should just go with whatever is realistic, which would be capitalism IMO considering that the new democracy's honeymoon period is hardly over and considering all its enemies on its borders which are communist (and all its capitalist friends), plus the status quo working well, but I think that may have been buried.

User avatar
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21329
Founded: Feb 20, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:19 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Well, it wasn't exactly a coup, to give a clear picture. The heir to the throne basically made sure his father placed all the powers of the emperor on his shoulders, so that effective rule could take place. The emperor is dying, struck by disease. It isn't really a coup, more like early succession.

It reads like a coup, which I don't think is a bad thing. I think there should be political back-and-forth in Khmer; unhealthy amounts of it in fact. As I keep saying, Khmer cannot into stability.

Oh, yeah, real coups will come. This just wasn't a coup. But there will be fighting in the streets, blood like rivers, people hanging from street lights and cities burning as if it were kindling. I think I'll make a political map of Khmer soon, to show the actual situation.
The name's James. James Usari. Well, my name is not actually James Usari, so don't bother actually looking it up, but it'll do for now.
Lack of a real name means compensation through a real face. My debt is settled
Part-time Kebab tycoon in Glasgow.

User avatar
Alleniana
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42864
Founded: Dec 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Alleniana » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:26 pm

We really need a more comprehensive record of what's going on in the Civil War. Who is sending troops? When will/have they arrived?

User avatar
The Grand Republic of Hannover
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14847
Founded: Jan 26, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:31 pm

Alleniana wrote:We really need a more comprehensive record of what's going on in the Civil War. Who is sending troops? When will/have they arrived?


I sent 3,000. They can arrive at whatever rate is realistic
NSG - Independent. Senator Daniel Krumholz
1870 Real-World RP - Colombia
2014 RP - Colombia
Marsisian Communist Revolution - Hannover
1913 RP - Great Britain


You may also contact me at Here

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30810
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:33 pm

Alleniana wrote:We really need a more comprehensive record of what's going on in the Civil War. Who is sending troops? When will/have they arrived?


Seeing as its been around a month, odds are all troops sent in the previous IC have arrived, which is why Frunze is dead by artillery and his army is going to disintegrate into guerilla warfare.
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
Altito Asmoro
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33371
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Altito Asmoro » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:33 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:Urgh. When's Svet gonna post? I want the Civil War to end so then I can actually get involved with international diplomacy as someone. Don't know who though.


To Tibet?
Stormwrath wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
Winner for Best War RP of 2016

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30810
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:35 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:Urgh. When's Svet gonna post? I want the Civil War to end so then I can actually get involved with international diplomacy as someone. Don't know who though.


To Tibet?


Tibet cannot into relevance.
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21329
Founded: Feb 20, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:36 pm

Image
Colour Coding:
Red: United Communes of Khmer, Communist faction
Purple: Republic of Dai Viet, Republican/Independence faction
Blue: Sisowath Empire of the Khmer, Royal/government faction
Yellow: Khmer Freestate, fascist faction
Black: Thai Traditionalist Union, Luddite/Independence faction
Grey: Warlords, drug cartels, mixed supporters of various factions, robber barons, hunted international criminals, Buddhist extremists and tigers.

So, gather round, gather round, and support your favourite faction! Don't be shy, don't be shy! Stability is for whimps anyway.
The name's James. James Usari. Well, my name is not actually James Usari, so don't bother actually looking it up, but it'll do for now.
Lack of a real name means compensation through a real face. My debt is settled
Part-time Kebab tycoon in Glasgow.

User avatar
Altito Asmoro
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33371
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Altito Asmoro » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:37 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
To Tibet?


Tibet cannot into relevance.


Tibet can into relevance.

And we will!
Stormwrath wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
Winner for Best War RP of 2016

User avatar
Altito Asmoro
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33371
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Altito Asmoro » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:38 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:(Image)
Colour Coding:
Red: United Communes of Khmer, Communist faction
Purple: Republic of Dai Viet, Republican/Independence faction
Blue: Sisowath Empire of the Khmer, Royal/government faction
Yellow: Khmer Freestate, fascist faction
Black: Thai Traditionalist Union, Luddite/Independence faction
Grey: Warlords, drug cartels, mixed supporters of various factions, robber barons, hunted international criminals, Buddhist extremists and tigers.

So, gather round, gather round, and support your favourite faction! Don't be shy, don't be shy! Stability is for whimps anyway.


Oh, oh, Grey! Me support Grey!
Stormwrath wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
Winner for Best War RP of 2016

User avatar
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21329
Founded: Feb 20, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:40 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:(Image)
Colour Coding:
Red: United Communes of Khmer, Communist faction
Purple: Republic of Dai Viet, Republican/Independence faction
Blue: Sisowath Empire of the Khmer, Royal/government faction
Yellow: Khmer Freestate, fascist faction
Black: Thai Traditionalist Union, Luddite/Independence faction
Grey: Warlords, drug cartels, mixed supporters of various factions, robber barons, hunted international criminals, Buddhist extremists and tigers.

So, gather round, gather round, and support your favourite faction! Don't be shy, don't be shy! Stability is for whimps anyway.


Oh, oh, Grey! Me support Grey!

Grey... You support the only faction that doesn't even have a hint of central command, with no wish of taking over anything besides their neighbouring villages? You have chosen poorly.
The name's James. James Usari. Well, my name is not actually James Usari, so don't bother actually looking it up, but it'll do for now.
Lack of a real name means compensation through a real face. My debt is settled
Part-time Kebab tycoon in Glasgow.

User avatar
Altito Asmoro
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33371
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Altito Asmoro » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:42 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
Oh, oh, Grey! Me support Grey!

Grey... You support the only faction that doesn't even have a hint of central command, with no wish of taking over anything besides their neighbouring villages? You have chosen poorly.


They are Buddhist! At least one of them.

And Tibet is Buddhist theocracy/absolute monarchy with the possibility of falling down and replaced with communism.
Last edited by Altito Asmoro on Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Stormwrath wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
Winner for Best War RP of 2016

User avatar
Alleniana
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42864
Founded: Dec 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Alleniana » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:48 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
Oh, oh, Grey! Me support Grey!

Grey... You support the only faction that doesn't even have a hint of central command, with no wish of taking over anything besides their neighbouring villages? You have chosen poorly.

I support grey too! Grey for government! President Tiger 1922! :p

Scandinavian ideals would support the republicans, but considering the legitimacy of the Sisowath, they're an option too.

User avatar
The New Lowlands
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12498
Founded: Jun 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The New Lowlands » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:56 pm

Supporting Vietnamese republicans surely cannot possibly go wrong!

User avatar
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21329
Founded: Feb 20, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:09 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:Supporting Vietnamese republicans surely cannot possibly go wrong!

It's not supporting the republic that gets you. It's supporting French colonial policy that eventually strings you up.

Alleniana wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Grey... You support the only faction that doesn't even have a hint of central command, with no wish of taking over anything besides their neighbouring villages? You have chosen poorly.

I support grey too! Grey for government! President Tiger 1922! :p

Scandinavian ideals would support the republicans, but considering the legitimacy of the Sisowath, they're an option too.

Lord Tiger is a valid choice, I'll grant you. Eating opposition members just isn't that great for the Social Contract. Unless it involves eating opposition members. I'm looking at you, Putin.

Especially the Prince Regent has a bright future. He is one of those people bound to go into history one way or the other.

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Grey... You support the only faction that doesn't even have a hint of central command, with no wish of taking over anything besides their neighbouring villages? You have chosen poorly.


They are Buddhist! At least one of them.

And Tibet is Buddhist theocracy/absolute monarchy with the possibility of falling down and replaced with communism.

Because supporting religious extremism is the way to go. A recept for a stable and loyal government.
The name's James. James Usari. Well, my name is not actually James Usari, so don't bother actually looking it up, but it'll do for now.
Lack of a real name means compensation through a real face. My debt is settled
Part-time Kebab tycoon in Glasgow.

User avatar
Alleniana
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42864
Founded: Dec 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Alleniana » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:34 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:Supporting Vietnamese republicans surely cannot possibly go wrong!

huheauheauheauehauhe
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Alleniana wrote:I support grey too! Grey for government! President Tiger 1922! :p

Scandinavian ideals would support the republicans, but considering the legitimacy of the Sisowath, they're an option too.

Lord Tiger is a valid choice, I'll grant you. Eating opposition members just isn't that great for the Social Contract. Unless it involves eating opposition members. I'm looking at you, Putin.

Especially the Prince Regent has a bright future. He is one of those people bound to go into history one way or the other.

Opposition members and opposing armies.

Hmm. I suppose it might even depend on the offers made. Scandinavia would like to be idealist, but it's hard.

User avatar
Senkaku
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 25688
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:51 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:(Image)
Colour Coding:
Red: United Communes of Khmer, Communist faction
Purple: Republic of Dai Viet, Republican/Independence faction
Blue: Sisowath Empire of the Khmer, Royal/government faction
Yellow: Khmer Freestate, fascist faction
Black: Thai Traditionalist Union, Luddite/Independence faction
Grey: Warlords, drug cartels, mixed supporters of various factions, robber barons, hunted international criminals, Buddhist extremists and tigers.

So, gather round, gather round, and support your favourite faction! Don't be shy, don't be shy! Stability is for whimps anyway.

:hug:
Thank you.

China will need to be squishing that red thingy in short order before they try to spread their nonsense about.
agreed honey. send bees

User avatar
The Emerald Dragon
Senator
 
Posts: 4708
Founded: Jan 30, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:58 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:(Image)
Colour Coding:
Red: United Communes of Khmer, Communist faction
Purple: Republic of Dai Viet, Republican/Independence faction
Blue: Sisowath Empire of the Khmer, Royal/government faction
Yellow: Khmer Freestate, fascist faction
Black: Thai Traditionalist Union, Luddite/Independence faction
Grey: Warlords, drug cartels, mixed supporters of various factions, robber barons, hunted international criminals, Buddhist extremists and tigers.

So, gather round, gather round, and support your favourite faction! Don't be shy, don't be shy! Stability is for whimps anyway.

:hug:
Thank you.

China will need to be squishing that red thingy in short order before they try to spread their nonsense about.


I support all of them.

With muh oil moniez. :roll:

User avatar
Alleniana
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42864
Founded: Dec 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Alleniana » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:59 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Senkaku wrote: :hug:
Thank you.

China will need to be squishing that red thingy in short order before they try to spread their nonsense about.


I support all of them.

With muh oil moniez. :roll:

wat

User avatar
The Grand Republic of Hannover
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14847
Founded: Jan 26, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:52 pm

Added a letter to Belgium: viewtopic.php?p=23662538#p23662538
NSG - Independent. Senator Daniel Krumholz
1870 Real-World RP - Colombia
2014 RP - Colombia
Marsisian Communist Revolution - Hannover
1913 RP - Great Britain


You may also contact me at Here

User avatar
Kryskov
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8116
Founded: Oct 26, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Kryskov » Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:56 pm

Alleniana wrote:I think your Polish land was allocated to Poland by Germany (which formed Poland out of Russian, Austrian and German land but mostly Russian), your Transylvania was probably taken during the war which wasn't won as strongly, Galicia... broke off, maybe? Bosnia, the same. It's possible that some compromising for stability has already begun. You'd have to ask people more familiar with it though.

So wait, I pretty much begin the war, lose 80% of my men...and on top of getting absolutely no shit, I get land TAKEN AWAY by GERMANY?! What, is Germany now kaiser der austria rororo?! Transylvania was taken during the war...that I won?! NONE of this makes sense!

User avatar
Altito Asmoro
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33371
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Altito Asmoro » Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:04 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Supporting Vietnamese republicans surely cannot possibly go wrong!

It's not supporting the republic that gets you. It's supporting French colonial policy that eventually strings you up.

Alleniana wrote:I support grey too! Grey for government! President Tiger 1922! :p

Scandinavian ideals would support the republicans, but considering the legitimacy of the Sisowath, they're an option too.

Lord Tiger is a valid choice, I'll grant you. Eating opposition members just isn't that great for the Social Contract. Unless it involves eating opposition members. I'm looking at you, Putin.

Especially the Prince Regent has a bright future. He is one of those people bound to go into history one way or the other.

Altito Asmoro wrote:
They are Buddhist! At least one of them.

And Tibet is Buddhist theocracy/absolute monarchy with the possibility of falling down and replaced with communism.

Because supporting religious extremism is the way to go. A recept for a stable and loyal government.

I'll support the traditionalist faction.
Stormwrath wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
Winner for Best War RP of 2016

User avatar
Altito Asmoro
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33371
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Altito Asmoro » Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:04 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:(Image)
Colour Coding:
Red: United Communes of Khmer, Communist faction
Purple: Republic of Dai Viet, Republican/Independence faction
Blue: Sisowath Empire of the Khmer, Royal/government faction
Yellow: Khmer Freestate, fascist faction
Black: Thai Traditionalist Union, Luddite/Independence faction
Grey: Warlords, drug cartels, mixed supporters of various factions, robber barons, hunted international criminals, Buddhist extremists and tigers.

So, gather round, gather round, and support your favourite faction! Don't be shy, don't be shy! Stability is for whimps anyway.

:hug:
Thank you.

China will need to be squishing that red thingy in short order before they try to spread their nonsense about.


But I want to see China weakened. :(
Stormwrath wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
Winner for Best War RP of 2016

User avatar
The Industrial States of Columbia
Senator
 
Posts: 4109
Founded: Feb 28, 2014
Mother Knows Best State

Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:18 pm

Kryskov wrote:
Alleniana wrote:I think your Polish land was allocated to Poland by Germany (which formed Poland out of Russian, Austrian and German land but mostly Russian), your Transylvania was probably taken during the war which wasn't won as strongly, Galicia... broke off, maybe? Bosnia, the same. It's possible that some compromising for stability has already begun. You'd have to ask people more familiar with it though.

So wait, I pretty much begin the war, lose 80% of my men...and on top of getting absolutely no shit, I get land TAKEN AWAY by GERMANY?! What, is Germany now kaiser der austria rororo?! Transylvania was taken during the war...that I won?! NONE of this makes sense!


Germany anshlussed your land while you were weak and vulnerable. Though, AH was a house of cards to begin vit.
Cobalt Network Signups-|-Cobalt Network Main Page
A Fan of Type II alternate history
-Dom Pedro II
-Queen Elizabeth I
-Our Current Pope
-Teddy Roosevelt
-Joan of Arc
-Giovanni Belzoni
-Nikola Tesla
Great holy armies shall be gathered and trained to fight all who embrace evil. In the name of the Gods, ships shall be built to carry the warriors out among the stars and we will spread Origin to all the unbelievers. The power of the Ori will be felt far and wide and the wicked shall be vanquished.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Portal to the Multiverse

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads