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Postby The NAR » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:44 pm

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And where would that be?

And since Caelum's dying, the Old Pantheon seems to be leaderless.


That's part of the set of implications involved with Caelum's death.
1) You lose the most powerful god in your pantheon when you need him most.
2) The sun and weather will be unmanaged and slowly either grow chaotic or, in the case of the sun which is part of Caelum, and not an ordinairy star, die off slowly and therefore see the planet freeze to death.
3) The Stel-Natus would become godless. They won't have a strong hand to keep them in check, and considering they own, like, a fifth of the entire world, that's perhaps the worst part of it.

Also, the reason why he won't give Ashur dominion over the sun and storms is because the prophecy made it very clear that a child of Weather, separate from the child of the wolves, has to rise up. The child of weather has to inherit something Caelum leaves behind, his status, his divinity is just the right thing. And if Caelum's plan fails, then all of the world of Creation will freeze, and all the gods will lose strength save for a few, and in that way, Caelum wins also. Not preferably, but better that than everyone suffering under darker gods and constant destruction.



Son of Weather doesn't necessarily mean a Son of Caelum. It could if you want, but Adrian is supposed to be the Paragon of the Empire.
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Adrian, in the midst of total destruction, will help secure the continuation of the Empire.
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Postby The Seven Archangels » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:46 pm

The NAR wrote:
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That's part of the set of implications involved with Caelum's death.
1) You lose the most powerful god in your pantheon when you need him most.
2) The sun and weather will be unmanaged and slowly either grow chaotic or, in the case of the sun which is part of Caelum, and not an ordinairy star, die off slowly and therefore see the planet freeze to death.
3) The Stel-Natus would become godless. They won't have a strong hand to keep them in check, and considering they own, like, a fifth of the entire world, that's perhaps the worst part of it.

Also, the reason why he won't give Ashur dominion over the sun and storms is because the prophecy made it very clear that a child of Weather, separate from the child of the wolves, has to rise up. The child of weather has to inherit something Caelum leaves behind, his status, his divinity is just the right thing. And if Caelum's plan fails, then all of the world of Creation will freeze, and all the gods will lose strength save for a few, and in that way, Caelum wins also. Not preferably, but better that than everyone suffering under darker gods and constant destruction.

Son of Weather doesn't necessarily mean a Son of Caelum. It could if you want, but Adrian is supposed to be the Paragon of the Empire.


Congrats for him, but this will be my part of the story, and I prefer it this way. It's already been started down the path I decided on and now there's really no way to turn back. Besides, the Stel-Natus are not part of the Empire, and Adrian has no real power over them. The plan Caelum has formed accounts for that.

As for the status of Chief Deity, I'm not entirely certain how to handle that. Originally it was meant to go to the one that was most widely worshiped, and that still is Caelum, just that when he's gone, I don't know who's the second most worshiped god.

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Postby The Starlight » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:48 pm

The Seven Archangels wrote:
The NAR wrote:Son of Weather doesn't necessarily mean a Son of Caelum. It could if you want, but Adrian is supposed to be the Paragon of the Empire.


Congrats for him, but this will be my part of the story, and I prefer it this way. It's already been started down the path I decided on and now there's really no way to turn back. Besides, the Stel-Natus are not part of the Empire, and Adrian has no real power over them. The plan Caelum has formed accounts for that.

As for the status of Chief Deity, I'm not entirely certain how to handle that. Originally it was meant to go to the one that was most widely worshiped, and that still is Caelum, just that when he's gone, I don't know who's the second most worshiped god.

Would be nice if we could have a poll, but as the OP's inactive in this RP, I guess it's up to Bentus. Of the secondary gods, I would put forth Vardaelia or Tengeryel.
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Postby Paketo » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:50 pm

The Seven Archangels wrote:
The NAR wrote:Son of Weather doesn't necessarily mean a Son of Caelum. It could if you want, but Adrian is supposed to be the Paragon of the Empire.


Congrats for him, but this will be my part of the story, and I prefer it this way. It's already been started down the path I decided on and now there's really no way to turn back. Besides, the Stel-Natus are not part of the Empire, and Adrian has no real power over them. The plan Caelum has formed accounts for that.

As for the status of Chief Deity, I'm not entirely certain how to handle that. Originally it was meant to go to the one that was most widely worshiped, and that still is Caelum, just that when he's gone, I don't know who's the second most worshiped god.


technically, i think it would be Stana but he wouldn't want to be king. third most worshiped probably tenegryll
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Postby The Starlight » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:50 pm

Paketo wrote:
The Seven Archangels wrote:
Congrats for him, but this will be my part of the story, and I prefer it this way. It's already been started down the path I decided on and now there's really no way to turn back. Besides, the Stel-Natus are not part of the Empire, and Adrian has no real power over them. The plan Caelum has formed accounts for that.

As for the status of Chief Deity, I'm not entirely certain how to handle that. Originally it was meant to go to the one that was most widely worshiped, and that still is Caelum, just that when he's gone, I don't know who's the second most worshiped god.


technically, i think it would be Stana but he wouldn't want to be king. third most worshiped probably tenegryll

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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:52 pm

The Starlight wrote:
The Seven Archangels wrote:
Congrats for him, but this will be my part of the story, and I prefer it this way. It's already been started down the path I decided on and now there's really no way to turn back. Besides, the Stel-Natus are not part of the Empire, and Adrian has no real power over them. The plan Caelum has formed accounts for that.

As for the status of Chief Deity, I'm not entirely certain how to handle that. Originally it was meant to go to the one that was most widely worshiped, and that still is Caelum, just that when he's gone, I don't know who's the second most worshiped god.

Would be nice if we could have a poll, but as the OP's inactive in this RP, I guess it's up to Bentus. Of the secondary gods, I would put forth Vardaelia or Tengeryel.


Perhaps Vardaelia and Tengeryel become co-Chief Dieties of the Pantheon?
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Postby The Starlight » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:53 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
The Starlight wrote:Would be nice if we could have a poll, but as the OP's inactive in this RP, I guess it's up to Bentus. Of the secondary gods, I would put forth Vardaelia or Tengeryel.


Perhaps Vardaelia and Tengeryel become co-Chief Dieties of the Pantheon?

That works for me.
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Postby The NAR » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:53 pm

Ashur is up there too
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:53 pm

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The Starlight wrote:Would be nice if we could have a poll, but as the OP's inactive in this RP, I guess it's up to Bentus. Of the secondary gods, I would put forth Vardaelia or Tengeryel.


Perhaps Vardaelia and Tengeryel become co-Chief Dieties of the Pantheon?

I like that. Co-Chief, has a nice ring to it. I would be willing to share a throne with Vardaelia, we are very good friends.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:55 pm

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Perhaps Vardaelia and Tengeryel become co-Chief Dieties of the Pantheon?

I like that. Co-Chief, has a nice ring to it. I would be willing to share a throne with Vardaelia, we are very good friends.


Which was entirely why I suggested it.

And who would we say is the head of the Dark Pantheon?
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Postby The Seven Archangels » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:55 pm

For every secondary god, one could make a fairly valid argument for how many followers they honestly have and how strong they are. I don't think it's really possible to just choose between a few without bias, and I'm pretty sure the "without bias" part is quite impossible as well, no offense to anyone. It's pretty clear we all like our gods more than other peoples', for a variety of reasons, but to step back from all that for a moment...

Why do we need a Chief Deity?

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Postby Aden Protectorate » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:56 pm

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Aden Protectorate wrote:I like that. Co-Chief, has a nice ring to it. I would be willing to share a throne with Vardaelia, we are very good friends.


Which was entirely why I suggested it.

And who would we say is the head of the Dark Pantheon?

Hahvulon, my lovely daughter Brynja appears to have become right-hand woman.

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Postby The Starlight » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:57 pm

The Seven Archangels wrote:For every secondary god, one could make a fairly valid argument for how many followers they honestly have and how strong they are. I don't think it's really possible to just choose between a few without bias, and I'm pretty sure the "without bias" part is quite impossible as well, no offense to anyone. It's pretty clear we all like our gods more than other peoples', for a variety of reasons, but to step back from all that for a moment...

Why do we need a Chief Deity?

Stability. If Caelum abolishes the office, there will be war to remake it and claim it once he's dead.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:58 pm

The Seven Archangels wrote:For every secondary god, one could make a fairly valid argument for how many followers they honestly have and how strong they are. I don't think it's really possible to just choose between a few without bias, and I'm pretty sure the "without bias" part is quite impossible as well, no offense to anyone. It's pretty clear we all like our gods more than other peoples', for a variety of reasons, but to step back from all that for a moment...

Why do we need a Chief Deity?


Because logic. Nothing ever run by committee can get anything done.

I imagine the post is more about the prestige from having it that any actual power gained though. Might also help to counter-balance the Old Pantheon's superior numbers with internal divisions over who should get the post.
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:58 pm

The Seven Archangels wrote:For every secondary god, one could make a fairly valid argument for how many followers they honestly have and how strong they are. I don't think it's really possible to just choose between a few without bias, and I'm pretty sure the "without bias" part is quite impossible as well, no offense to anyone. It's pretty clear we all like our gods more than other peoples', for a variety of reasons, but to step back from all that for a moment...

Why do we need a Chief Deity?

We just do, creation requires order, only a pantheon can provide that, and a Pantheon needs someone to keep it in check so there is order.

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Postby The Seven Archangels » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:58 pm

The Starlight wrote:
The Seven Archangels wrote:For every secondary god, one could make a fairly valid argument for how many followers they honestly have and how strong they are. I don't think it's really possible to just choose between a few without bias, and I'm pretty sure the "without bias" part is quite impossible as well, no offense to anyone. It's pretty clear we all like our gods more than other peoples', for a variety of reasons, but to step back from all that for a moment...

Why do we need a Chief Deity?

Stability. If Caelum abolishes the office, there will be war to remake it and claim it once he's dead.


I do believe there already IS a war brewing because of the office being made in the first place. But there'd be also be a war to CLAIM the office anyway for one god or another, so what's the point exactly?

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Postby Aden Protectorate » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:01 pm

The Seven Archangels wrote:
The Starlight wrote:Stability. If Caelum abolishes the office, there will be war to remake it and claim it once he's dead.


I do believe there already IS a war brewing because of the office being made in the first place. But there'd be also be a war to CLAIM the office anyway for one god or another, so what's the point exactly?

It adds another layer of Drama to the story. Besides democracy/committee rule/anarchy will not be able rule efficiently in this situation, there has to be a Chief.

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Postby The Seven Archangels » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:04 pm

Aden Protectorate wrote:
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I do believe there already IS a war brewing because of the office being made in the first place. But there'd be also be a war to CLAIM the office anyway for one god or another, so what's the point exactly?

It adds another layer of Drama to the story. Besides democracy/committee rule/anarchy will not be able rule efficiently in this situation, there has to be a Chief.


Well, I intended for that drama in the first place anyway. You all are very quick to jump in and prove that part true...

Still, I'm just curious what you all are thinking about the game.

As for the office of Chief Deity, it'll either be my (Caelum's) or Bentus's choice, provided Terminus Alpha doesn't magically appear now and abolish the pantheon system or something.

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Postby Aden Protectorate » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:05 pm

The Seven Archangels wrote:
Aden Protectorate wrote:It adds another layer of Drama to the story. Besides democracy/committee rule/anarchy will not be able rule efficiently in this situation, there has to be a Chief.


Well, I intended for that drama in the first place anyway. You all are very quick to jump in and prove that part true...

Still, I'm just curious what you all are thinking about the game.

As for the office of Chief Deity, it'll either be my (Caelum's) or Bentus's choice, provided Terminus Alpha doesn't magically appear now and abolish the pantheon system or something.

The drama in this is so intense, what do I need Pretty Little Liars for now? :p

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:13 pm

Do gods know all languages?

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Postby Aden Protectorate » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:16 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Do gods know all languages?

I would think they would have knowledge of some, if not all the languages. I don't know though, so don;t take my word as gospel.

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Postby The Starlight » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:17 pm

Aden and I have put our support behind Vard. and Teng. being co-chiefs.
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:19 pm

The Starlight wrote:Aden and I have put our support behind Vard. and Teng. being co-chiefs.

Tengeryel and Vardaelia for Co-Chiefs 2015! *holds up banner* :p

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Postby Kaoiluja » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:21 pm

I would like to put out there that part of Lodavs destiny requires him to take the throne. Was going to wait to apply that concept later but with a this craziness happening he may have to take it now.band remember, he was meant to completely destroy all evil, meaning he may possess powers and unknown potential that would qualify him as chief deity. After all, he is the one with the purest heart.

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