Pax Per Bellum: An 18th century Alt-History RP [OOC, OPEN]

[Aden Protectorate]

I like that idea. In my history I put it so that French explorers where theorist Europeans to contact us, so we have. A natural affinity towards France. Perhaps you would be interested in a monopoly on our furs and other products?

Indeed we do. Would you be interested in an alliance, or perhaps even protectorate status? As a protectorate we will ensure your sovereignty and help you Westernize, and once that is complete we can just maintain a normal alliance. Or we don't have to do that and can just have a trade and perhaps defensive alliance. My colony is down in Dixie, not quite near your borders, but that could change one day soon, as we do have ambitions for the Mississippi River.

RL France was famed for its native allies, however I must decline on the protectorate status for now, as it would be difficult to enforce as we share no borders and I am landlocked. However I would be interested in a iron strong alliance between us, you could help us modernize and we could act as supporter for your expansion in North America, however I must insist you keep the conflict with other Native Civs to a minimum.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Indeed we do. Would you be interested in an alliance, or perhaps even protectorate status? As a protectorate we will ensure your sovereignty and help you Westernize, and once that is complete we can just maintain a normal alliance. Or we don't have to do that and can just have a trade and perhaps defensive alliance. My colony is down in Dixie, not quite near your borders, but that could change one day soon, as we do have ambitions for the Mississippi River.

RL France was famed for its native allies, however I must decline on the protectorate status for now, as it would be difficult to enforce as we share no borders and I am landlocked. However I would be interested in a iron strong alliance between us, you could help us modernize and we could act as supporter for your expansion in North America, however I must insist you keep the conflict with other Native Civs to a minimum.

The only Native Civ in my way is the Five Civilized Nations. After that our policy will be a lot less violent. We are pretty benevolent towards the Native Populations anyways, kinda co-existing and just not caring. That only changes if they get in the way of Her Majesty's agenda.

[Traders Union]

Hopefully the IC will be up tomorrow, itching to start expanding..and watching Europe start punching itself

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Hopefully the IC will be up tomorrow, itching to start expanding..and watching Europe start punching itself

Europe is going to be rather interesting indeed.

[Traders Union]

Hopefully the IC will be up tomorrow, itching to start expanding..and watching Europe start punching itself

Europe is going to be rather interesting indeed.

Middle East will be fairly lively also...and the Americas . Most continents actually

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Europe is going to be rather interesting indeed.

Middle East will be fairly lively also...and the Americas . Most continents actually

AMERICA FOR THE ITALIANS!

[Traders Union]

Middle East will be fairly lively also...and the Americas . Most continents actually

AMERICA FOR THE ITALIANS!

*shrugs shoulders* go ahead. AFRICA FOR AFRICANS!!!!!!

[Jade Confederacy]

Europe is going to be rather interesting indeed.

Middle East will be fairly lively also...and the Americas . Most continents actually

Except for Africa as always. I think im gona start pushing my trade interests towards the cape of good hope later on to give the Zulu player something to do.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Europe is going to be rather interesting indeed.

Middle East will be fairly lively also...and the Americas . Most continents actually

North America won't be too bright, mainly due to the fact that any combat will largely be between Europeans or the Natives and the Europeans, the latter of which will likely be a much shorter occurrence.

South America is different, however. Considering there appear to be several decolonized nations there. Or maybe nations that never were colonized, who knows.

The rest of Asia should also be interesting, with Tatary, China, and the Korea in between them, along with the Subcontinent.

Middle East will be fairly lively also...and the Americas . Most continents actually

AMERICA FOR THE ITALIANS!

*Sneezes*

*Establishes Quebec over New Italy*

[Traders Union]

Middle East will be fairly lively also...and the Americas . Most continents actually

Except for Africa as always. I think im gona start pushing my trade interests towards the cape of good hope later on to give the Zulu player something to do.

I'm just going to try and eat as much of West Africa as humanly possible..and annoy the Iberians

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Except for Africa as always. I think im gona start pushing my trade interests towards the cape of good hope later on to give the Zulu player something to do.

I'm just going to try and eat as much of West Africa as humanly possible..and annoy the Iberians

Pls send all Barbary Pirates to Iberians and not to the benevolent Francies who also dislike the Iberians c:

[Argentarino]

Except for Africa as always. I think im gona start pushing my trade interests towards the cape of good hope later on to give the Zulu player something to do.

I'm just going to try and eat as much of West Africa as humanly possible..and annoy the Iberians

Oooorrr annoy the Byzantines who no doubt will be attacking your Muslim neighbors?

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Don't worry Latin brothers! New Italy will give you the finest wood!

[Jaslandia]

By the way, who would like to form a marital alliance with King Ferdinand III of Spain? His son and heir, Prince José Felipe de Trastámara y Traba, is 20 years old and currently a bachelor. The King's daughter, Princess Isabella Maria de Trastámara y Traba, is 16 years old and also available. Since we're all talking alliances...

Speaking of which, Francis I's daughter, Marie Anne is around 16 now. Right around marriageable age. So, in case someone wants to strengthen ties with Poland-Lithuania...

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

By the way, who would like to form a marital alliance with King Ferdinand III of Spain? His son and heir, Prince José Felipe de Trastámara y Traba, is 20 years old and currently a bachelor. The King's daughter, Princess Isabella Maria de Trastámara y Traba, is 16 years old and also available. Since we're all talking alliances...

Speaking of which, Francis I's daughter, Marie Anne is around 16 now. Right around marriageable age. So, in case someone wants to strengthen ties with Poland-Lithuania...

See I would go for it, but we are not the Habsburgs.

[Jade Confederacy]

All the more reason why the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is a Christian one then

Eehhh, we're gonna have problems. In my China app, i kind of stated the land north of China are ruled by Sunni mongol Khanates and i was hoping for a shared border with the Tartars since i made China Shiite Muslim for the sole purpose of having a religious war with a Sunni Japan or Tatar. The way you made your land claim, you are effectively acting as a huge buffer state between me and the tartar, so can you cut it down a bit to only include Manchuria and Korea? Otherwise, my entire first chunk of the Rp will have to be dedicated to invading you which will be no fun for both of us.

[Jaslandia]

Speaking of which, Francis I's daughter, Marie Anne is around 16 now. Right around marriageable age. So, in case someone wants to strengthen ties with Poland-Lithuania...

See I would go for it, but we are not the Habsburgs.

You know, the House of Valois and House of Conti VERY distantly related. They're both related to the Capetians in some way, and that's it. It's not inbreeding if it's your tenth cousins three times removed.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

See I would go for it, but we are not the Habsburgs.

You know, the House of Valois and House of Conti VERY distantly related. They're both related to the Capetians in some way, and that's it. It's not inbreeding if it's your tenth cousins three times removed.

In that case, I'm sure we have a boy somewhere around her age. Considering the eldest is 23. I'll took into it more tomorrow, but keeping our dynasties together could prove useful for the two of us in the long term.

Besides, we could always use another Marie Anne in the family.

[Jaslandia]

You know, the House of Valois and House of Conti VERY distantly related. They're both related to the Capetians in some way, and that's it. It's not inbreeding if it's your tenth cousins three times removed.

In that case, I'm sure we have a boy somewhere around her age. Considering the eldest is 23. I'll took into it more tomorrow, but keeping our dynasties together could prove useful for the two of us in the long term.

Besides, we could always use another Marie Anne in the family.

Indeed. Who knows? Perhaps a hereditary monarchy will be in Poland-Lithuania's future? Then keeping our dynasties close will be REALLY beneficial.

[Zgraja]

Don't worry Latin brothers! New Italy will give you the finest wood!

Really?! Nobody?!? Ok guess I will...

New Italy is gonna give the Latin Brothers some wood huh?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Don't worry Latin brothers! New Italy will give you the finest wood!

Don't let me get my belt, boy. New Italian wood is papal wood.

[Britcan]

AMERICA FOR THE ITALIANS!

*shrugs shoulders* go ahead. AFRICA FOR AFRICANS!!!!!!

HUZZAH!!

[Alsheb]

All the more reason why the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is a Christian one then

Eehhh, we're gonna have problems. In my China app, i kind of stated the land north of China are ruled by Sunni mongol Khanates and i was hoping for a shared border with the Tartars since i made China Shiite Muslim for the sole purpose of having a religious war with a Sunni Japan or Tatar. The way you made your land claim, you are effectively acting as a huge buffer state between me and the tartar, so can you cut it down a bit to only include Manchuria and Korea? Otherwise, my entire first chunk of the Rp will have to be dedicated to invading you which will be no fun for both of us.

As long as it means only giving up the westernmost steppe parts (as in Gansu and Qinghai provinces), that's a deal. Wouldn't want the People of the Book to start fighting eachother when there are so many heathens left, would we?

How about this proposal:

Gives you space to expand to the north-west and beat some khans over there.

[Jeremy Beaver]

Full Nation Name:Kingdom of Tarsal
Short Nation Name: K.T
National Flag:This but the Bottom and Top stripes are Purple.

Territory:The 2 Territory s squished between Poland and Byzantine in the Middle.
Official Language(s):Polish, Greek Small amounts of Russian. (Tell me if there are any more)
Form of Government: Absolute Monarchy
Head of State: King Antonius XI
Head of Government: None due to it being an Absolute Monarchy. (if different)
Capital City:Tarsali
Population:500k
Religion: The country is Divided by Catholicism Protestantism and Orthodox the State religion is Orthodox (state the situation of the church within your nation)
Army:
The Footmen.

The Military of the Kingdom of Tarsal is Small at 56k but well trained, there Foot units mostly use the Model II Tarsal Flintlock Musket which is no different from any other musket in the world except that the Bayonet is extended forward and the Stock is curved inward to place the Shoulder into and the Ramrod is placed on the side of the Musket. the Officers in the line infantry Regiment only Use swords to indicate movement and firing orders Unlike other army's they do not use Musical instruments to signal.

The Cavalrymen.
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The Cavalry are very generic when it is compared to the rest of Europe. They resemble the cavalrymen of Poland and mostly use Curved swords rather than Pole arms and are armored in Iron Plate. they stick to Hit and run tactics as they know there Armor cant stop the Modern weaponry of today and try to limit Casualties as Cavalry men are expensive to train and field. the horse regiments are usually made up of 32 Horsemen and 1 Officer which totals to 33.

The Artillery

The artillery in the Military usually sticks to 3 guns a Battery with 1 Officer directing the Battery. The standard gun is the 14lber Cannon which is the most used in the military second being the 20lber. the Artillery crews mostly train in how to reload the Cannons most effectively and quickly in order to put down more fire more accurately even quicker.

(both size and a description of its quality, organisation & structure, etc)
Navy: N/A due to the country being Landlocked. (same as the army)
Economic Strength: The country trades with its neighbors closest to it such as the Poles and Byzantines this leads to a rather wealthy trading spot in the Capital city. The country also sits on top of a minor Gold deposit and other ores can be found. (briefly describe how wealthy your nation is)
Infrastructure: The Country has Mostly stone roads for its major routes and Dirt for the less important routes. the Capital city has relatively okay Roads and buildings that don't require any immediate repair. (briefly describe the quality of your nations infrastructure)
Primary Goals:Become a minor Power in eastern Europe, Become a leading country in Military Doctrine and technology.
History:The Kingdom formed when Poland was undergoing formation and fighting war's becoming what it is now. Some settlers went to unclaimed territory bordering the Byzantine's and Polish and slowly became a independent country. While it is to small to really do any political influence in the region it really is to small to be of any strategic value there fore the larger nations do not really mind or care about it. From is past it has claims on some Polish lands to the north but very minor ones, its military can not enforce these claims anytime soon. the Capital city is really the only city in the realm with towns and villages spread throughout
RP Example: 1800's RP 2100 Rp 1836 Victorian RP FNAF Rp Cold war RP
some of these i have just posted.

[Claven]

Lots of stuff written here.

Wow, I don't think I can keep this up. I don't know enough about the region, religion, or alt history. But here it goes:

1. The Hindus of India were quite a sedentary lot. There were no great migrations, undertaken by the HIndus, throughout the subcontinent, even after a new conquest unless the need was dire (Muslims treating them badly, destruction of their places of worship, but all that was mostly in the early days.). Not to mention, the logistics involved in an endeavour such as you say, the invasion of Persia. It would take a considerable effort to bring elephants anywhere past the Sindh and Punjab as the terrain would be most undesirable. Without the elephants, such an Indian army as we might expect, would offer no great advantage in such a foreign land, facing such a foreign army.

BTW, who owns the Arabian peninsula? Would it be a Abbasid rump state or is it fractured as in real life without the presence of a large empire such as the Ottomans?

I should have taken The Peninsula in my app. Maybe I will take it IC.

I was going to continue until I saw that Zgraja wanted the Arabian peninsula. We got a deal here New Granadeseret.

Mr Pope (Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States), Iwhile we may not exactly like each other, perhaps there is a way we can work out a situation where if say someone attacks the Byzantines, the other would maybe attack them as well . You can have Jerusalem of course.