Pax Per Bellum: An 18th century Alt-History RP [OOC, OPEN]

[Machtergreifung]

My holdings in India aren't really claims as such, more of extensive trading posts, but I'll clarify that with the Indian players in the IC



Question regarding the Berbers: slavery is still in use?

Not really, a little bit in the Sahara but it's officially banned.

And semi-official piracy of the Mediterranean trade?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Nothing much, beyond eventual conversion. Maybe creating some coastal towns and bishoprics here and there, building catholic missions, but nothing really conquering. There won't be much fighting, more peaceful assimilation. But that'll have to wait, until either the natives become more friendly or Gin and Tonic gets invented.

Well the thing is we may have a problem.

Alexandria is the heartland of the Oriental Orthodox Church. A foreign power in control of that is not ideal, as you may guess. We may need to reach some sort of arrangement.

*Grumbles*

The pope could in theory accept some religious rights for a minor Coptic population... He'll make something up regarding "same belief, different name" or something... A Coptic Prince-Bishop (pope in everything but name) could have a seat in Alexandria, under the scrutiny of the Catholic bishop...

[Traders Union]

Not really, a little bit in the Sahara but it's officially banned.

And semi-official piracy of the Mediterranean trade?

That's more....underhand. The government looks the other way if the slavers catch traditional enemy ships ( Iberians mostly) provided they sell the slaves either at the border or in a non-major port

[Argentarino]

So, assuming that everything that we just discussed is going to take place, the Byzantines and Berbers are going up against the Papacy, France, Spain, and Portugal? Am I missing anybody?

[Kherkov]

So, assuming that everything that we just discussed is going to take place, the Byzantines and Berbers are going up against the Papacy, France, Spain, and Portugal? Am I missing anybody?

Plus Britain, and probably the Netherlands, Prussia, and scandinavia, as protestants.

[Halleon]

Question would a European Colonized Brazil with other parts of South America be allowed?

[Traders Union]

So, assuming that everything that we just discussed is going to take place, the Byzantines and Berbers are going up against the Papacy, France, Spain, and Portugal? Am I missing anybody?

Not directly, I plan to IC internal developments and reforms first. Oh and expanding down the African Coast. The treaty I want with the Byzies is more defensive against Spanish/Italian aggression towards North Africa

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

So, assuming that everything that we just discussed is going to take place, the Byzantines and Berbers are going up against the Papacy, France, Spain, and Portugal? Am I missing anybody?

Austria-Bavaria, perhaps. And the Byzantines might be joined by other non-Catholic states, perhaps England. I could see Sweden joining them, too, but he has not given the word yet.

[Kherkov]

Question would a European Colonized Brazil with other parts of South America be allowed?

Brazil's taken by Portugal.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

So, assuming that everything that we just discussed is going to take place, the Byzantines and Berbers are going up against the Papacy, France, Spain, and Portugal? Am I missing anybody?

Erm, not really.

The French are looking for friends against the Brits.

Byzantium and the Papacy are just saber rattling at each other, might be war who knows.

And the Berbers are plotting against Spain, or at least want to do so.

So, assuming that everything that we just discussed is going to take place, the Byzantines and Berbers are going up against the Papacy, France, Spain, and Portugal? Am I missing anybody?

Austria-Bavaria, perhaps. And the Byzantines might be joined by other non-Catholic states, perhaps England. I could see Sweden joining them, too, but he has not given the word yet.

Actually the Swedes and I are likely to be allies, I have been discussing this with the player and it seems we will actually go through with it.

[Argentarino]

Question would a European Colonized Brazil with other parts of South America be allowed?

The former Viceroyalties of Peru, Rio de la Plata, and New Granada (former Spanish colonies) are open, since I do not have claim to them.

[Britcan]

Well the thing is we may have a problem.

Alexandria is the heartland of the Oriental Orthodox Church. A foreign power in control of that is not ideal, as you may guess. We may need to reach some sort of arrangement.

*Grumbles*

The pope could in theory accept some religious rights for a minor Coptic population... He'll make something up regarding "same belief, different name" or something... A Coptic Prince-Bishop (pope in everything but name) could have a seat in Alexandria, under the scrutiny of the Catholic bishop...

Hmmm...

Perhaps we could have an IC meeting to hash out these ideas. Maybe you could send a delegation to Ethiopia?

[Kargintina]

Is anyone gonna be friends with the Danish-Norwegians?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

*Grumbles*

The pope could in theory accept some religious rights for a minor Coptic population... He'll make something up regarding "same belief, different name" or something... A Coptic Prince-Bishop (pope in everything but name) could have a seat in Alexandria, under the scrutiny of the Catholic bishop...

Hmmm...

Perhaps we could have an IC meeting to hash out these ideas. Maybe you could send a delegation to Ethiopia?

It might be better for you to send a delegation up the Nile towards Alexandria to flesh it out with the Bishop. Europeans aren't known for their consideration towards native nations...

Is anyone gonna be friends with the Danish-Norwegians?

Depends. Religion?

[Kargintina]

Hmmm...

Perhaps we could have an IC meeting to hash out these ideas. Maybe you could send a delegation to Ethiopia?

It might be better for you to send a delegation up the Nile towards Alexandria to flesh it out with the Bishop. Europeans aren't known for their consideration towards native nations...

Is anyone gonna be friends with the Danish-Norwegians?

Depends. Religion?

Lutheran

[Britcan]

Hmmm...

Perhaps we could have an IC meeting to hash out these ideas. Maybe you could send a delegation to Ethiopia?

It might be better for you to send a delegation up the Nile towards Alexandria to flesh it out with the Bishop. Europeans aren't known for their consideration towards native nations...

True. We shall see.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

It might be better for you to send a delegation up the Nile towards Alexandria to flesh it out with the Bishop. Europeans aren't known for their consideration towards native nations...


Depends. Religion?

Lutheran

To hell, you and your heretic spawn! You shall have no mercy from me. Maybe the Inuit will listen more closely to the word of God.

[Halleon]

Question would a European Colonized Brazil with other parts of South America be allowed?

Brazil's taken by Portugal.

Is there any chance that theres a updated map I can look at?

[Alsheb]

Brazil's taken by Portugal.

Is there any chance that theres a updated map I can look at?

Except for Brazil, the rest of South America is as of yet still unclaimed, I think.

[Kargintina]

Lutheran

To hell, you and your heretic spawn! You shall have no mercy from me. Maybe the Inuit will listen more closely to the word of God.

*Sad music plays*

[Halleon]

Question would a European Colonized Brazil with other parts of South America be allowed?

The former Viceroyalties of Peru, Rio de la Plata, and New Granada (former Spanish colonies) are open, since I do not have claim to them.

Not sure what the exact date is at the moment in IC, would those areas of South Americas ever have been colonized by the Spanish? Since this is Alt History and I haven't had the time to read all the individual applications not sure who did what and where in South America.

Edit: Just read the alt-history of Spain. Better understanding now and might make a application for one of the former Viceroyalties.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Yeah France's tune will be changing, somewhat.

Friendly relations still exist with the Basilicans, Poles, and the Swedes, however Spain is a no for us. If Spain is in an alliance bloc or coalition, the French won't be.

As of this exact moment, the rivals of France are largely Spain and Britain.

[Kherkov]

Is anyone gonna be friends with the Danish-Norwegians?

me pls

[New Kvenland]

Lutheran

To hell, you and your heretic spawn! You shall have no mercy from me. Maybe the Inuit will listen more closely to the word of God.

We're already 1/3 Lutheran, and 1/3 Orthodox...

Is anyone gonna be friends with the Danish-Norwegians?

Maybe. I may need a conference with you in the IC thread.

[Cerrania]

So, assuming that everything that we just discussed is going to take place, the Byzantines and Berbers are going up against the Papacy, France, Spain, and Portugal? Am I missing anybody?

Austria-Bavaria, perhaps. And the Byzantines might be joined by other non-Catholic states, perhaps England. I could see Sweden joining them, too, but he has not given the word yet.

Austria-Bavaria is probably gonna get dragged in by default. It seems that I'm right smack dab in the middle of goddamn everything at the moment.
Most likely I'll lend my support to the Catholics, but if no aid is received in sorting out the Bavarian revolutionaries then I might just hole up and let the world burn itself.