A World Without America II [Invite Only, See Within / OOC ]

by **Unicario** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:10 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Whats with all the fancy stuff recently?

What you mean, mate?

by **Unicario** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:10 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Whats with all the fancy stuff recently?

What you mean, mate?

EDIT: Oh, the infoboxes and stuff. They were stuff we did on the old AWWA.

About me · by **Luziyca** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:31 pm

Okay, speaking of this, assuming no changes happen. My plan will be that 1848 will be a pivotal year for Korea.

by **Ruridova** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:37 pm

(all items subject to change)

by **Ruridova** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:44 am

HISTORIES IN A NUTSHELL

Greece and Cyprus

Greece broke away from Ottoman Turkish rule in 1777 at the conclusion of the Greek War of Independence, with a constitutional monarchy where power was shared between a Hapsburg king and an elected prime minister. Despite political conflict between the increasingly reclusive Alexandros I and anti-monarchists led by Adamantios Korais, Greece remained largely stable until the 1831 assassination of Ioannis Kapodistras by Petros and Giorgios Mavromichalis. Following a period of military rule in the late 1850s, new parties rose that were less prone to conflict with the monarchy. Several kings ruled and either died or resigned in quick succession in the 1800s for various reasons; Giorgios I died of cholera, Stavros was forced to resign after revelations of his homosexuality, and Alexandros II forced his father Ioannis I to abdicate.

Despite the rule of powerful and influential prime ministers like Eleftherios Venizelos and Ioannis Metaxas in the beginning of the century, the 1900s were notoriously unstable. King Giorgios II was assassinated, his son Konstantinos died young, and several elections were rigged by the military. The Two Sicilies also threatened to invade in 1940, though this never actually materialized. In the late 1950s, policies that restricted the rights of the Turkish majority on Cyprus resulted in a successful Cypriot War of Independence in which Greece lost control of the island outside of Akrotiri and Dhekelia and many atrocities were committed to force Greek Cypriots to flee the island. Stability returned in the 1980s, but in the past few years an economic crisis has forced the resignation of two prime ministers, the abdication of a monarch, and the rise of the far-leftist SYRIZA and far-rightist Golden Dawn.

Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia

Taksin 'the Great' Thonburi, the only king of his dynasty, was executed in 1782 by his trusted adviser Phraputthayotfa Chuklalok, who would reign as Rama I Chakri. The Chakris ruled as unchallenged absolute monarchs for decades. In 1863, Cambodia broke away under the twin royal houses of Norodom and Sisowath. In 1932, the military forced Rama VII Chakri to grant a constitution and create an elected legislature and the title of Prime Minister. Ultimately, though, the legislature has rarely been elected, with the military often rigging elections and installing their own leaders into the present. In 1946, Laos broke away under the Khun Lo dynasty.

The monarchies of Cambodia and Laos were deposed in 1960 and 1975 respectively, by the Khmer Rouge and the Pathet Lao. Both countries established communist autocracies; Cambodia's was marked by genocide of non-Khmer, intellectuals, and city dwellers. Though Laos and Cambodia initially got along, relations collapsed as Cambodia's genocide expanded, and Laos eventually funded a Cambodian group called the National Salvation Front that ultimately defeated the Khmer Rouge in the Cambodian Civil War and established a second communist regime that exists to this day. Thailand remains marked by military interference in civilian affairs, including the recent deposition of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra by General Prayuth Chan-ocha.

Two Sicilies

The Two Sicilies was established in 1770 after both Sicily and Naples wound up in periods of regency following the death of Ferdinand Bourbon of Naples and the deposition of the Bourbons in peninsular Spain by the Capellos. The regency councils of the two countries agreed to unite the countries under Ludwig von Zahringen, a member of the ducal house ruling Baden, who would reign as Luigi di Zahringen. From 1777 to 1783, the Two Sicilies waged war on the Kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont, defeating them and annexing the island of Sardinia, ensuring Sicilian dominance over the lower half of the Apennine Peninsula. In 1861, the army of the Two Sicilies defeated the Expedition of the Thousand under Giuseppe Garibaldi, remaining independent as a result. In 1894, King Vittorio granted a constitution and a democratically-elected legislature whose leader, the Prime Minister, would advise the king.

In 1930, the National Fascist Party rigged parliamentary elections and installed party leader Achille Starace as Marshal, or absolute dictator. They ended democratic elections, instituted severe repression, and deposed the monarchy, which they viewed as a threat to fascist rule. In 1940, the Two Sicilies threatened to go to war with Greece if they did not turn over the di Zahringens, living in exile in Kerkyra. When Greece refused, the Sicilian bluff was called. Fascist rule over the Two Sicilies existed until internal intrigue between Giovanni Messe and Giuseppe Rauti tore the party apart, allowing the deposition of the fascist autocracy. The monarchy was restored under Cesare di Zahringen, and democratic governance was restored with executive power now resting with the Prime Minister instead of the King. The Two Sicilies was briefly rocked by the assassination of Prime Minister Aldo Moro by communists shortly after his electoral defeat. The demise of a two-party system and economic trouble has left the future of the Two Sicilies somewhat uncertain.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:26 am

Keeping my cannon for Japan a little secret because I'm worried about possible interference. Russia's cannon is being kept secret just because I want a bit of suspense.

by **Mitteleuropa** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:54 am

Germany's history is being created on the fly... except for some stuff from the 20s to 60s.

by **Pimps Inc** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:13 pm

What's with the infoboxes?

by **Unicario** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:31 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:What's with the infoboxes?

It's something we did in AWWA 1; We used to make infoboxes about our nation's history.

by **Ruridova** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:37 pm

NATION NAMES

Greece Hellenic State Ελληνική Πολιτεία
Cyprus Republic of Cyprus Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti
Thailand Kingdom of Siam อาณาจักรสยาม
Kingdom of Thailand ราชอาณาจักรไทย
Laos Kingdom of Laos ອານາຈັກຂອງລາວ
Lao People's Democratic Republic ສາທາລະນະລັດ ປະຊາທິປະໄຕ ປະຊາຊົນລາວ
Cambodia Kingdom of Cambodia ព្រះរាជាណាចក្រកម្ពុជា
Democratic Cambodia កម្ពុជាប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ
People's Republic of Cambodia សាធារណរដ្ឋប្រជាមានិតកម្ពុជា
Two Sicilies Kingdom of the Two Sicilies Regno delle Due Sicilie
Sicilian Social Republic Repubblica Sociale Siciliana

by **Bojikami** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:57 pm

Here is mine:

List of nations of mine in AWWA:

Cossacks
Cossack Hetmanate: казак Гетманщины
The Tsardom of Ruthenia: Царизм Рутения
The Ruthenian Federative Socialist Republic: Русинский Федеративная Социалистическая Республика

Gran Colombia
The Federation of Gran Colombia: La Federación de la Gran Colombia

China
The Celestial Empire of Great Ming: 大明的天朝
The Harmonious and Serene Republic of China: 中國的和諧與安詳共和國
The Federal Republic of China: 中國聯邦共和國

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland

Dai Viet
The Empire of Dai Viet: 大越帝国
The Empire of Viet Nam: 越南帝国
The Socialist Republic of Vietnam: 越南社会主义共和国

Baharata
The Socialist Union of Bharata: भारत की समाजवादी संघ

by **Unicario** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:09 pm

German Empire

German: Deutsches Reich
Czech: Německá Říše
Yiddish: דייַטש רעיטש (Daytsh Reitsh)
Slovenian: Nemško Cesarstvo

Caliphate of Egypt: الخلافة من مصر (Khilāfa al-Misr)
United Provinces of the Netherlands: Verenigde Provinciën van Nederland / Vereinigten Provinzen der Niederlande
Kingdom of France: Royaume de France
Empire of Brazil and Portugal: Império do Brasil e Portugal

by **Pimps Inc** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:29 pm

So, what can I do?

by **Unicario** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:06 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:So, what can I do?

Post... shorter chapters. That was damn impressive. ^^

by **Pimps Inc** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:12 pm

Should I spoiler it?

by **Unicario** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:21 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Should I spoiler it?

Nah.

by **The Vaktovian Empire** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:32 pm

@Pimps

You're post is really great, and I commemorate you for such great work. And I don't mean to be a pain when I say this... but for the sake of historical accuracy in accordance with this RP and the world we're creating, I hope it wouldn't be too much to ask to edit your post reflecting changes necessary in accordance with Spain's non-canon backstory I gave it in my first IC post as the Spanish:

Ferdinand Capello, Monarch of Spain since the Spanish Restoration Period took place in 1771. The Restoration Period was a time when people became unhappy with the current Spanish regime under Charles III. Feeling that it put too much quality to the High Class including the Nobility and the Aristocracy, an up-and-coming Middle Class from various breakthroughs in Economic reform and social chance. Though this would become a precursor to the French Revolution, the Spanish Restoration took much shorter of a time. The war between the Monarchy of the Bourbon Dynasty and Charles III, and the Capello Monarchy, which was favored by the reformists who ordered for the Restoration of a promised benefitted Middle Class, whose rights would be respected. The Capellos ideally won the fight, stormed Madrid, and imprisoned Charles III and his Royal Court, while being able to effectively be supported by the Military and without having Spain falling apart economically and socially further than it had.

Furthermore, Spain became a more powerful power because its colonies were able to be held onto more effectively. Plus the Capellos had a mentality to turn Spain back into the 1500's power it had been before the defeat of the Spanish Armada by the British during Elizabeth I's rule. Ferdinand had developed a strong lineage in Spain unquestionably deep in depth and that would survive history. He had 7 sons, 3 daughters, 4 nephews, and 3 nieces, as well as 2 Brothers, a Sister, a Wife, and various in-laws who could take the crown should all else fail. Essentially, Ferdinand had built a Dynasty. The Capello Dynasty, which clustered into the gaping hole left by the crumbling Bourbons behind them. The Bourbons were unsuccessful in their dominance, and within a years time, ties with France were effectively all but nothing. Spain had been able to become more pre-Bourbon Spanish then ever before within a 75 year period since the Spanish Succession.

Now Spain, under this new Capello Dynasty wished to expand its influence in Europe, after losing most of its European Territories after the fall of the Habsburg House. Capello decided to contact the Court of Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. In essence, he laid his strategy out effectively and simply:

by **Pimps Inc** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:26 pm

I will try to edit everything according to your canon.

by **Ruridova** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:43 pm

Heilige scheiße, Pimps, that is the most impressive post I've seen all thread and AFAIK a fair bit of it is technically still the future.

by **Ruridova** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:55 pm

Leadership infobox: 16 edits
History infobox: 12 edits

Is this a bad sign?

by **Pimps Inc** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:14 pm

Questions for Spain:
Stance on the US Revolution?
Did you go to war with Britain in the 60s?
Did Spain build any major ship building ports in New Spain?
And will you allow Mexico independence in exchange for the creation of the Spanish Commonwealth of Nations.

by **The Vaktovian Empire** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:18 am

Pimps Inc wrote:Questions for Spain:
Stance on the US Revolution?
Did you go to war with Britain in the 60s?
Did Spain build any major ship building ports in New Spain?
And will you allow Mexico independence in exchange for the creation of the Spanish Commonwealth of Nations.

1. We were not involved in the revolution, and continue to side with the colonists despite this.
2. The Seven Years War happened yes. But the 1771 change of leadership occurred
3. We built some major shipping ports. Mostly in Cancun and Guatemala. Some minor ones on the East Mexican Coast.
5. We will allow inindependence if you remain an ally. Refardless of whether a Commonwealth is later created

by **Unicario** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:17 pm

FYI, Pimps Inc, your nation is not compulsed to accept Spain's regime change. I have Charles III in France and he could easily be sent to Mexico to lead a country there... cough cough...

Also, Spain has not ICly built any naval ports in New Spain.

by **Pimps Inc** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:22 pm

Unicario wrote:FYI, Pimps Inc, your nation is not compulsed to accept Spain's regime change. I have Charles III in France and he could easily be sent to Mexico to lead a country there... cough cough...

Also, Spain has not ICly built any naval ports in New Spain.

Most powerful country in the New World, though!
Spanish Army, Armada Invencible!
He could have built them before, as in during the 1600s or early 1700s.

by **Unicario** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:26 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Unicario wrote:FYI, Pimps Inc, your nation is not compulsed to accept Spain's regime change. I have Charles III in France and he could easily be sent to Mexico to lead a country there... cough cough...

Also, Spain has not ICly built any naval ports in New Spain.

Most powerful country in the New World, though!
Spanish Army, Armada Invencible!
He could have built them before, as in during the 1600s or early 1700s.

Perhaps he could have. But I'm saying, if you want Mexico to be independent with ease, you could have Carlos III flee to Mexico; otherwise, you'll have to either cave into Spanish dominion or revolt.

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