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Postby Ayreonia » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:56 pm

You know, I just realised how stupid a word "enjoy" is.

Logically, it should mean "cause joy," not "something that brings me joy," if we would follow the example of other words with the en-prefix, such as enrage or enamor.

So, if I were to say I like RPing I should be saying "I am enjoyed by RPing." "I enjoy RPing" should actually mean "I make RPing feel joy," which, while not any less true, sounds dumb.

Just saying, English.
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Postby Constaniana » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:39 am

Ayreonia wrote:You know, I just realised how stupid a word "enjoy" is.

Logically, it should mean "cause joy," not "something that brings me joy," if we would follow the example of other words with the en-prefix, such as enrage or enamor.

So, if I were to say I like RPing I should be saying "I am enjoyed by RPing." "I enjoy RPing" should actually mean "I make RPing feel joy," which, while not any less true, sounds dumb.

Just saying, English.

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Postby Alleniana » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:24 am

Constaniana wrote:
Ayreonia wrote:You know, I just realised how stupid a word "enjoy" is.

Logically, it should mean "cause joy," not "something that brings me joy," if we would follow the example of other words with the en-prefix, such as enrage or enamor.

So, if I were to say I like RPing I should be saying "I am enjoyed by RPing." "I enjoy RPing" should actually mean "I make RPing feel joy," which, while not any less true, sounds dumb.

Just saying, English.

Consistency is for pansies who aren't busy ruling the waves/world. 8)

True this, just look at Esperanto

Funnily, this has some merit; richer, more populous, more connected (and often therefore more powerful or technologically advanced) societies tend to see their language change faster, due to greater volume of usage and stuff. :P I think.

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:56 am

Ayreonia wrote:You know, I just realised how stupid a word "enjoy" is.

Logically, it should mean "cause joy," not "something that brings me joy," if we would follow the example of other words with the en-prefix, such as enrage or enamor.

So, if I were to say I like RPing I should be saying "I am enjoyed by RPing." "I enjoy RPing" should actually mean "I make RPing feel joy," which, while not any less true, sounds dumb.

Just saying, English.

Huh. You're right. After looking at the etymology, it appears that that was one of its original meanings, but when the word passed from French into English and subsequently had subtle shifts in meaning over the course of several centuries, it came to its modern meaning. It's quite interesting, actually.
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Postby Agritum » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:03 am


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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:30 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Ayreonia wrote:You know, I just realised how stupid a word "enjoy" is.

Logically, it should mean "cause joy," not "something that brings me joy," if we would follow the example of other words with the en-prefix, such as enrage or enamor.

So, if I were to say I like RPing I should be saying "I am enjoyed by RPing." "I enjoy RPing" should actually mean "I make RPing feel joy," which, while not any less true, sounds dumb.

Just saying, English.

Huh. You're right. After looking at the etymology, it appears that that was one of its original meanings, but when the word passed from French into English and subsequently had subtle shifts in meaning over the course of several centuries, it came to its modern meaning. It's quite interesting, actually.

Like terrific.

Y'know, as in "to terrify".
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Postby Ontorisa » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:41 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Huh. You're right. After looking at the etymology, it appears that that was one of its original meanings, but when the word passed from French into English and subsequently had subtle shifts in meaning over the course of several centuries, it came to its modern meaning. It's quite interesting, actually.

Like terrific.

Y'know, as in "to terrify".


Terrifying.

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Postby Olthar » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:14 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Huh. You're right. After looking at the etymology, it appears that that was one of its original meanings, but when the word passed from French into English and subsequently had subtle shifts in meaning over the course of several centuries, it came to its modern meaning. It's quite interesting, actually.

Like terrific.

Y'know, as in "to terrify".

"The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning."
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Postby Alleniana » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:16 pm


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Olthar wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Like terrific.

Y'know, as in "to terrify".

"The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning."

I just pictured Steven Irwin creeping behind "program" in 3D word art and grabbing a python, and saying "Crikey! You beauty!"
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Postby Olthar » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:29 pm

Alleniana wrote:

ayy zhu bajie
Olthar wrote:"The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning."

I just pictured Steven Irwin creeping behind "program" in 3D word art and grabbing a python, and saying "Crikey! You beauty!"
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I c wut u did there. ;)
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Postby Zeinbrad » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:27 pm

My dad is for some reason watching the EU Parliament/congress thing.

1-Were is everyone? It seems most of the seats are empty.
2-It seems very chill.
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Postby Constaniana » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:59 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:My dad is for some reason watching the EU Parliament/congress thing.

1-Were is everyone? It seems most of the seats are empty.
2-It seems very chill.

1: The EU Parliamentary elections have such little interest that the candidates never even both checking if they've won, hence they never delve into the depths of Brussels.
2: I'm pretty sure the vast majority of government processes are incredibly sedate. Though my perception might be coloured by the fact that my latest foray into that was watching the US Senate on C-Span and witnessing Mitch McConnell propose what days the Senate would be taking off or just coming into work but not actually conducting any government business, with his trademark Brontosaurus-esque alacrity.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:03 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:My dad is for some reason watching the EU Parliament/congress thing.

1-Were is everyone? It seems most of the seats are empty.
2-It seems very chill.

1: The EU Parliamentary elections have such little interest that the candidates never even both checking if they've won, hence they never delve into the depths of Brussels.
2: I'm pretty sure the vast majority of government processes are incredibly sedate. Though my perception might be coloured by the fact that my latest foray into that was watching the US Senate on C-Span and witnessing Mitch McConnell propose what days the Senate would be taking off or just coming into work but not actually conducting any government business, with his trademark Brontosaurus-esque alacrity.

Mitch McConnell is not a Brontosaurus, he is a turtle. Get it right you bigot.
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Postby Alleniana » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:44 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:My dad is for some reason watching the EU Parliament/congress thing.

1-Were is everyone? It seems most of the seats are empty.
2-It seems very chill.

1: The EU Parliamentary elections have such little interest that the candidates never even both checking if they've won, hence they never delve into the depths of Brussels.
2: I'm pretty sure the vast majority of government processes are incredibly sedate. Though my perception might be coloured by the fact that my latest foray into that was watching the US Senate on C-Span and witnessing Mitch McConnell propose what days the Senate would be taking off or just coming into work but not actually conducting any government business, with his trademark Brontosaurus-esque alacrity.

British parliamentary, though; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VTdgB03pk4
some of which has carried over to the Australian parliamentary, and I suspect, the Canadian (though proroguing is weird)

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Postby Zeinbrad » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:17 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Constaniana wrote:1: The EU Parliamentary elections have such little interest that the candidates never even both checking if they've won, hence they never delve into the depths of Brussels.
2: I'm pretty sure the vast majority of government processes are incredibly sedate. Though my perception might be coloured by the fact that my latest foray into that was watching the US Senate on C-Span and witnessing Mitch McConnell propose what days the Senate would be taking off or just coming into work but not actually conducting any government business, with his trademark Brontosaurus-esque alacrity.

British parliamentary, though; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VTdgB03pk4
some of which has carried over to the Australian parliamentary, and I suspect, the Canadian (though proroguing is weird)

Am I watching a government body at work or high school?
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:45 pm

Alleniana wrote:

ayy zhu bajie
Olthar wrote:"The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning."

I just pictured Steven Irwin creeping behind "program" in 3D word art and grabbing a python, and saying "Crikey! You beauty!"
:blink:
it's 8:14 in the morning, what's going on


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Postby Alleniana » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:15 am

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Alleniana wrote:ayy zhu bajie

I just pictured Steven Irwin creeping behind "program" in 3D word art and grabbing a python, and saying "Crikey! You beauty!"
:blink:
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Steve Irwin is a fucking hero, don't you disrespect him.

< :p >

I'm not disrespecting him, to the contrary, I'm honouring his memory
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Alleniana wrote:ayy zhu bajie

I just pictured Steven Irwin creeping behind "program" in 3D word art and grabbing a python, and saying "Crikey! You beauty!"
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I c wut u did there. ;)

That was unintentional, but your wit was too sharp.

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Postby Agritum » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:45 pm

This region management thing is fun as fuck.

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Postby Olthar » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:50 pm

Agritum wrote:This region management thing is fun as fuck.

I know what you mean. Managing an entire region of one nation is just the best. :)
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Postby Agritum » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:51 pm

Olthar wrote:
Agritum wrote:This region management thing is fun as fuck.

I know what you mean. Managing an entire region of one nation is just the best. :)

Except the region in point is Ankh Mauta.

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Postby Olthar » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:04 pm

Agritum wrote:
Olthar wrote:I know what you mean. Managing an entire region of one nation is just the best. :)

Except the region in point is Ankh Mauta.

I was talking about mine.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:22 pm

Agritum wrote:This region management thing is fun as fuck.


Oh God, another Italian drunk on power.

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Postby Vancon » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:25 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Agritum wrote:This region management thing is fun as fuck.


Oh God, another Italian drunk on power.

This isn't going to end well.

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Postby Constaniana » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:45 pm

Agritum wrote:This region management thing is fun as fuck.

Indeed.
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