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Should we have random events?

Poll ended at Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:20 am

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:37 pm

and does the CSA need help?
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United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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Postby New Abrahammia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:37 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Elepis wrote:Random events ( will post IC later)


Poor cotton harvest in India

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Poor cotton harvest in India?

This could give me an excuse to help the CSA, but I don't want to turn against the United States. This is a major dilemma.

Come on, you faced them before, twice! And you only REALLY lost once!

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Postby New Abrahammia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:38 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:and does the CSA need help?

I would say so, yes. More so in the naval department, but I think we'll soon need help on the ground. Yes, we repelled the attack on Richmond, but I think we won't be that successful so often.

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Postby Tyben » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:39 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:Poor cotton harvest in India?

This could give me an excuse to help the CSA, but I don't want to turn against the United States. This is a major dilemma.


That is the reason that the Great Powers stayed neutral during the American Civil War for as long as possible, the control of the CSA on cotton, a valuable resource to the British drove them to be closer to the CSA but they didn't want their territories in the Americas threatened by the Union so they stayed neutral.
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:40 pm

New Abrahammia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:and does the CSA need help?

I would say so, yes. More so in the naval department, but I think we'll soon need help on the ground. Yes, we repelled the attack on Richmond, but I think we won't be that successful so often.

I have a few naval vessels.
I could help you in the war by supplying moderate industry, which you lack.
So, your best shot is to win this war quickly.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby New Abrahammia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:42 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
New Abrahammia wrote:I would say so, yes. More so in the naval department, but I think we'll soon need help on the ground. Yes, we repelled the attack on Richmond, but I think we won't be that successful so often.

I have a few naval vessels.
I could help you in the war by supplying moderate industry, which you lack.
So, your best shot is to win this war quickly.

Win the war quickly? My strategy was to repel northern attacks until they give up, but what was your plan?

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:44 pm

New Abrahammia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I have a few naval vessels.
I could help you in the war by supplying moderate industry, which you lack.
So, your best shot is to win this war quickly.

Win the war quickly? My strategy was to repel northern attacks until they give up, but what was your plan?

They'' never run out, they have industry to supply the war and a navy to keep trade going.

Who was winning in the beginning of the war, first of all?
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby Arana » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:47 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:And Rvnclave, there are no "Mexican miners" going into California.
Stop the metagaming.

Yeah, I mean, it's not like there were several gold rushes that brought miners from around the world or anything...
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Postby New Abrahammia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:47 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
New Abrahammia wrote:Win the war quickly? My strategy was to repel northern attacks until they give up, but what was your plan?

They'' never run out, they have industry to supply the war and a navy to keep trade going.

Who was winning in the beginning of the war, first of all?

Tough to say. We beat their first and so far only land attack, but they pretty much rule the seas.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:49 pm

Arana wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:And Rvnclave, there are no "Mexican miners" going into California.
Stop the metagaming.

Yeah, I mean, it's not like there were several gold rushes that brought miners from around the world or anything...

Yea, and from all those Latin American, European, so people that came, they only find the few Mexican ones and conclude:
"Invasion, magically get 5 armies of 40k each and magically completely armed and trained even though we are in a civil war."
Yea,no.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:51 pm

New Abrahammia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:They'' never run out, they have industry to supply the war and a navy to keep trade going.

Who was winning in the beginning of the war, first of all?

Tough to say. We beat their first and so far only land attack, but they pretty much rule the seas.

Right, until Gettysburg.
That's when you came apart.
What you need to do is blitzkrieg to the capital, like you did IRL, but dont lose.You have to beat them before the country becomes completely immersed into the war and their industry beats you back.
I could help you out.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:52 pm

Tyben wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Poor cotton harvest in India?

This could give me an excuse to help the CSA, but I don't want to turn against the United States. This is a major dilemma.


That is the reason that the Great Powers stayed neutral during the American Civil War for as long as possible, the control of the CSA on cotton, a valuable resource to the British drove them to be closer to the CSA but they didn't want their territories in the Americas threatened by the Union so they stayed neutral.

Yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay neutral for as long as I can.

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Postby New Abrahammia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:53 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
New Abrahammia wrote:Tough to say. We beat their first and so far only land attack, but they pretty much rule the seas.

Right, until Gettysburg.
That's when you came apart.
What you need to do is blitzkrieg to the capital, like you did IRL, but dont lose.You have to beat them before the country becomes completely immersed into the war and their industry beats you back.
I could help you out.

Hooray! Please hurry!

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Postby New Abrahammia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:55 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Tyben wrote:
That is the reason that the Great Powers stayed neutral during the American Civil War for as long as possible, the control of the CSA on cotton, a valuable resource to the British drove them to be closer to the CSA but they didn't want their territories in the Americas threatened by the Union so they stayed neutral.

Yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay neutral for as long as I can.

Oh. But this could probably win, since you are backed by us.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:56 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Tyben wrote:
That is the reason that the Great Powers stayed neutral during the American Civil War for as long as possible, the control of the CSA on cotton, a valuable resource to the British drove them to be closer to the CSA but they didn't want their territories in the Americas threatened by the Union so they stayed neutral.

Yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay neutral for as long as I can.

So, I have an annexation of Central America planned, ill leave Belize alone and maybe expand its territory a little to give it breathing room from us so you dont feel threatened, okay?
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:57 pm

New Abrahammia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay neutral for as long as I can.

Oh. But this could probably win, since you are backed by us.

But you arent really a "guarantee" youll win.
Youre most likely lose.
You need to strike first and fast and then.
I can offer more advice and help IC but I do want payment.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:58 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay neutral for as long as I can.

So, I have an annexation of Central America planned, ill leave Belize alone and maybe expand its territory a little to give it breathing room from us so you dont feel threatened, okay?

I don't care about what you do in Central America.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:58 pm

New Abrahammia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay neutral for as long as I can.

Oh. But this could probably win, since you are backed by us.

Sorry, but you're going to have to duke it out on your own.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:00 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:So, I have an annexation of Central America planned, ill leave Belize alone and maybe expand its territory a little to give it breathing room from us so you dont feel threatened, okay?

I don't care about what you do in Central America.

Belize is a minor colony though.
Ill take it then.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Tyben
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Postby Tyben » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:02 pm

The entire success of the CSA was due to a few factor. Firstly, the CSA garnered influence overseas through their strong economy which prevented the economic shutdown of trade for the CSA and allowed them to gain resources for the war while still in combat with northern forces. Next, the CSA's army was composed of more elite and well trained troops, the majority of US veterans at the time lived in the South and this contributed to a major reason for their combat success. Then, on top of that, the intelligence of Robert E. Lee instantly pushing north prevented the Union from damaging or destroying major CSA strongholds, the idea was to force the Union into attacking an entrenched southern army in northern land, essentially to try to tire out the north until the level of war exhaustion forced the north to concede, however the north was more than willing to break the footholds the CSA gained in the north which led to the very bloody and massive battles often described in books.

But, seeing as the CSA in this game didn't perform an invasion of the north immediately, it puts him in a compromised position compared to the real life version of the CSA who was in a far better position early in the war. Basically, you're going to either have to garner allies for a push north or play a defensive war until you get a break against the Union which will be significant enough to push north.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:03 pm

Tyben wrote:The entire success of the CSA was due to a few factor. Firstly, the CSA garnered influence overseas through their strong economy which prevented the economic shutdown of trade for the CSA and allowed them to gain resources for the war while still in combat with northern forces. Next, the CSA's army was composed of more elite and well trained troops, the majority of US veterans at the time lived in the South and this contributed to a major reason for their combat success. Then, on top of that, the intelligence of Robert E. Lee instantly pushing north prevented the Union from damaging or destroying major CSA strongholds, the idea was to force the Union into attacking an entrenched southern army in northern land, essentially to try to tire out the north until the level of war exhaustion forced the north to concede, however the north was more than willing to break the footholds the CSA gained in the north which led to the very bloody and massive battles often described in books.

But, seeing as the CSA in this game didn't perform an invasion of the north immediately, it puts him in a compromised position compared to the real life version of the CSA who was in a far better position early in the war.

and the blockade is officially on.
So, CSA, I advice you listen to my reasoning cause you'll tire out before them.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Of The Rnclave
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:10 pm

It would be easy to beat back Mexico and the CSA
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:11 pm

Well I change my mind about this RP once again. Is there anything open near the potshot of activity? (The Americas)

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Postby Of The Rnclave » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:12 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:Well I change my mind about this RP once again. Is there anything open near the potshot of activity? (The Americas)


Canada I suppose, or I gave California near autonomy due to Mexican threats, so you might play as them
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:13 pm

New Abrahammia wrote:As the Union army began nearing the town from the north side planning to begin circling the town, the previously stated ambush sprung into action. Cannons fired grapeshot into the cannoneers, riflemen opened fire, and smoke signals were made from the center of the town to alert others of the attack. There were definetly more troops than the union anticipated, as the Confederacy had very much anticipated the attack. The union men could not circle around the town because of this ambush, or even build their trenches. The Confederate troops from the northeast and northwest took the sides of the union army while the ones from the midnorth attacked the front. The smoke signals soon caught the attention of troops in Mechanicsville, just north of Richmond. They moved in swiftly to attack the behind of the union army. Meanwhile, the political officials in Richmond left the town from the south and headed to Raleigh, North Carolina.

In response to the attack in New Orleans, the Louisiana state guard moved in with cannons as the port was being shot up. There was an ammunition storage in the town, which the north would surely seize if they win. The ammunition and weapons are carted away shortly after the ships are spotted. The cannons fire upon the ship as a militia force is riled to support them. The Docked Confederate ships are quickly boarded to use the onboard cannons against the navy.


Firstly,you never said you moved those troops behind me, so yeah, and secondly, the ships for Louisiana haven't even left yet
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