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Arana
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Postby Arana » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:32 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Mifan wrote:Aren't you in debt?

That's how I'll pay them off.
In turn, ill abolish slavery in 3 or 4 states

You'll pay off your debt by giving other people money???
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Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:32 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Also, the part im invading is the Confederacy, which is pro-slave.
Im doing them a favor by liberating them under Mexican law.


Britain gets cotton from the Confederacy, though

There's more to the Confederacy than just Texas and such.
I have cotton,too,yet no slaves.
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United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:32 pm

Arana wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:That's how I'll pay them off.
In turn, ill abolish slavery in 3 or 4 states

You'll pay off your debt by giving other people money???

I have a debt to the UK and France.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Arana
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Postby Arana » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:33 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Arana wrote:You'll pay off your debt by giving other people money???

I have a debt to the UK and France.

You'll pay them off by having them fight for you?
Prophet of Lavanthulhu -- A Proud Portal Nationalist -- Bet on Bernie 2016

Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
Seventeen year old probably straight Christian socialist from New England.

"Aran is basically a very pissed-off Chihuahua combined with a bisexual Billy Graham, minus the bisexuality." -Lavan Tiri

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:36 pm

Arana wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I have a debt to the UK and France.

You'll pay them off by having them fight for you?

I will fight.
They simply got to stay off the war and ill take it back.There's gold in California, you know.Thats how Ill pay.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Soviet Chernarus
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:37 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:
Britain gets cotton from the Confederacy, though

There's more to the Confederacy than just Texas and such.
I have cotton,too,yet no slaves.


British and French textile industries DEPEND on cotton produced in the South, and the Conferacy is producing 75% of the world's cotton at thus point
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Australian Antarctica
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:37 pm

Arana wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:Nevermind then, disreguard my app. I had a 5 paragraph history written up for how and why Canada was indepenent and why they bought alaska. That is why it is Alternate freakin' history! It does not have to be the same as real life!

No, but it has to make sense.

And it will.
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Arana
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Postby Arana » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:37 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Arana wrote:You'll pay them off by having them fight for you?

I will fight.
They simply got to stay off the war and ill take it back.There's gold in California, you know.Thats how Ill pay.

Right... did you notice the fact that the US has only 13 years prior crippled you in a war, and is significantly stronger than you?
Prophet of Lavanthulhu -- A Proud Portal Nationalist -- Bet on Bernie 2016

Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
Seventeen year old probably straight Christian socialist from New England.

"Aran is basically a very pissed-off Chihuahua combined with a bisexual Billy Graham, minus the bisexuality." -Lavan Tiri

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Arana
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Postby Arana » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:38 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Arana wrote:No, but it has to make sense.

And it will.

Canada had neither the desire to be independent, nor the capability of becoming independent.
Prophet of Lavanthulhu -- A Proud Portal Nationalist -- Bet on Bernie 2016

Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
Seventeen year old probably straight Christian socialist from New England.

"Aran is basically a very pissed-off Chihuahua combined with a bisexual Billy Graham, minus the bisexuality." -Lavan Tiri

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:38 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:There's more to the Confederacy than just Texas and such.
I have cotton,too,yet no slaves.


British and French textile industries DEPEND on cotton produced in the South, and the Conferacy is producing 75% of the world's cotton at thus point

Texas is just one of those states.
The rest will stay there until the Union wins......or loses.
If I take the Confederacy, Britain will still get the cotton.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Australian Antarctica
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:39 pm

Arana wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:And it will.

Canada had neither the desire to be independent, nor the capability of becoming independent.

Both easily solved.
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:40 pm

Arana wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I will fight.
They simply got to stay off the war and ill take it back.There's gold in California, you know.Thats how Ill pay.

Right... did you notice the fact that the US has only 13 years prior crippled you in a war, and is significantly stronger than you?

Significantly, my ass.
Either way, I have a plan.
I was caught in a civil war when HE invaded me.
I'll just return the favor.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Arana
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Postby Arana » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:40 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Arana wrote:Canada had neither the desire to be independent, nor the capability of becoming independent.

Both easily solved.

No, not really. Lacking the ability and motivation to do something generally means it won't be done, because, you know, not only do you not want to do it, but you couldn't do it if you did.
Prophet of Lavanthulhu -- A Proud Portal Nationalist -- Bet on Bernie 2016

Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
Seventeen year old probably straight Christian socialist from New England.

"Aran is basically a very pissed-off Chihuahua combined with a bisexual Billy Graham, minus the bisexuality." -Lavan Tiri

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Australian Antarctica
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:41 pm

Arana wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:Both easily solved.

No, not really. Lacking the ability and motivation to do something generally means it won't be done, because, you know, not only do you not want to do it, but you couldn't do it if you did.

Again, wait for the history to be finished. Either later tonight or tomorrow morning.
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:43 pm

Any wars in Europe?
I cant remember.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:44 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Any wars in Europe?
I cant remember.

There was the Crimean War, which ended in 1856.

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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:45 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Arana wrote:Right... did you notice the fact that the US has only 13 years prior crippled you in a war, and is significantly stronger than you?

Significantly, my ass.
Either way, I have a plan.
I was caught in a civil war when HE invaded me.
I'll just return the favor.

You're not going to succeed, dude.

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South Viet Cong
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Postby South Viet Cong » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:45 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Arana wrote:No, not really. Lacking the ability and motivation to do something generally means it won't be done, because, you know, not only do you not want to do it, but you couldn't do it if you did.

Again, wait for the history to be finished. Either later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Alright then. I would like to see a good excuse on how Canada rose up against the most powerful nation in the world, United Kingdom, then bought land from another powerful nation.

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Postby New Jordslag » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:46 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Any wars in Europe?
I cant remember.

Well, in the Balkans, a war is getting close to breaking out. It'll be Rumania and it's allies vs. Serbia Vs. The Ottomans and their allies. A three way war.

For now, though, Rumania wants to be buds with people and gain colonies.
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:46 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:
British and French textile industries DEPEND on cotton produced in the South, and the Conferacy is producing 75% of the world's cotton at thus point

Texas is just one of those states.
The rest will stay there until the Union wins......or loses.
If I take the Confederacy, Britain will still get the cotton.


Yes, but there is no doubt it will enrage some people in Europe, considering that they'll have no idea whether or not what will happen to the cotton, even if you promise to sell it. Also, this is likely to bring you in war with the United States, or at least lead to war with the US after the Civil War. Don't expect to be welcomed by the local populace, either. Also, this is assuming you do manage to capture the cotton producing states (namely Texas, which I assume is what your aiming for, as well as a few other states lost in the Mexican-American War). I can't really speak for Britain, but I doubt they're just going to sit around and let you invade Texas; the Confederacy could threaten to burn the cotton fields or something. Europe would survive on surplus of cotton before the war, but sooner or later they are going to feel the effects of it.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:48 pm

South Viet Cong wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:Again, wait for the history to be finished. Either later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Alright then. I would like to see a good excuse on how Canada rose up against the most powerful nation in the world, United Kingdom, then bought land from another powerful nation.

That part I may scrap, let me work some things out. Also, your argument is invalid. After the revolution, Britain was considered weak for being defeated by a few 'farmers with pitchforks'.
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Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!

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Arana
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Postby Arana » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:50 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
South Viet Cong wrote:Alright then. I would like to see a good excuse on how Canada rose up against the most powerful nation in the world, United Kingdom, then bought land from another powerful nation.

That part I may scrap, let me work some things out. Also, your argument is invalid. After the revolution, Britain was considered weak for being defeated by a few 'farmers with pitchforks'.

It was considered weak. It was still the most powerful nation on Earth, with Spain, the Netherlands, and France being its only competition. Since then, the Netherlands and Spain have fallen in strength, leaving the UK and France at the top.
Prophet of Lavanthulhu -- A Proud Portal Nationalist -- Bet on Bernie 2016

Arana wrote:Fuck you and your raps,
And all your stupid rhyming.
Haiku master race.

*Drops mic*
Seventeen year old probably straight Christian socialist from New England.

"Aran is basically a very pissed-off Chihuahua combined with a bisexual Billy Graham, minus the bisexuality." -Lavan Tiri

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:50 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Texas is just one of those states.
The rest will stay there until the Union wins......or loses.
If I take the Confederacy, Britain will still get the cotton.


Yes, but there is no doubt it will enrage some people in Europe, considering that they'll have no idea whether or not what will happen to the cotton, even if you promise to sell it. Also, this is likely to bring you in war with the United States, or at least lead to war with the US after the Civil War. Don't expect to be welcomed by the local populace, either. Also, this is assuming you do manage to capture the cotton producing states (namely Texas, which I assume is what your aiming for, as well as a few other states lost in the Mexican-American War). I can't really speak for Britain, but I doubt they're just going to sit around and let you invade Texas; the Confederacy could threaten to burn the cotton fields or something. Europe would survive on surplus of cotton before the war, but sooner or later they are going to feel the effects of it.

Right.
I still produce cotton, though how much can a country as Britain need.
Plus,if I dont do this then the UK dont get paid.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:51 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Significantly, my ass.
Either way, I have a plan.
I was caught in a civil war when HE invaded me.
I'll just return the favor.

You're not going to succeed, dude.

I beat the French, I can beat you.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Australian Antarctica
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Founded: Jul 04, 2013
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:51 pm

Arana wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:That part I may scrap, let me work some things out. Also, your argument is invalid. After the revolution, Britain was considered weak for being defeated by a few 'farmers with pitchforks'.

It was considered weak. It was still the most powerful nation on Earth, with Spain, the Netherlands, and France being its only competition. Since then, the Netherlands and Spain have fallen in strength, leaving the UK and France at the top.

And who says I was not supported by the French, unless they have a problem with it.
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
INTJ Personality "The Architect"
Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!

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