1861: Slaves, Loans and Gun Boats, OOC, many avilable

[Elepis]

I need to get from this (excluding Siam), to this

[New Jordslag]

I need to get from this (excluding Siam), to this

Oi, Hands off. Kamerun is mine.

[Elepis]

I need to get from this (excluding Siam), to this

Oi, Hands off. Kamerun is mine.

*looks down annoyed* who are you to stand in the way of mighty France? vive la france!

[New Jordslag]

Oi, Hands off. Kamerun is mine.

*looks down annoyed* who are you to stand in the way of France?

Rumania. A Ultra-Nationalist Nation who is allies with Mexico, the UK, and possibly Russia and Austria. Still want to mess with me?

[Elepis]

*looks down annoyed* who are you to stand in the way of France?

Rumania. A Ultra-Nationalist Nation who is allies with Mexico, the UK, and possibly Russia and Austria. Still want to mess with me?

Mexico: Can do nothing at the moment
UK: We are friends too
Russia: Crimea
Austria: tricky

Anyway, France will conquer the WORLD! *looks over shoulder at Bismark* oh

[Elepis]

*looks down annoyed* who are you to stand in the way of France?

Rumania. A Ultra-Nationalist Nation who is allies with Mexico, the UK, and possibly Russia and Austria. Still want to mess with me?

anyway, I am sure we can come to a deal, gun boat diplomacy and all that

[New Jordslag]

Rumania. A Ultra-Nationalist Nation who is allies with Mexico, the UK, and possibly Russia and Austria. Still want to mess with me?

Mexico: Can do nothing at the moment
UK: We are friends too
Russia: Crimea
Austria: tricky

Anyway, France will conquer the WORLD! *looks over shoulder at Bismark* oh

Yup. Prepare to get Rekt.

Russia lost the Crimean War because you had fucking Britain on your side. Britain is THE gamechanger. Österreich isn't tricky and is a good ally to have.

And I don't recall the UK having an alliance with you.

[Elepis]

also, created poll

[New Jordslag]

Rumania. A Ultra-Nationalist Nation who is allies with Mexico, the UK, and possibly Russia and Austria. Still want to mess with me?

anyway, I am sure we can come to a deal, gun boat diplomacy and all that

Mmm.

I'll try to leave the Ottomans alone, leaving you an ally, if you leave Kamerun alone.

[Elepis]

Mexico: Can do nothing at the moment
UK: We are friends too
Russia: Crimea
Austria: tricky

Anyway, France will conquer the WORLD! *looks over shoulder at Bismark* oh

Yup. Prepare to get Rekt.

Russia lost the Crimean War because you had fucking Britain on your side. Britain is THE gamechanger. Österreich isn't tricky and is a good ally to have.

And I don't recall the UK having an alliance with you.

France played a massive roll, Sevastopol fell because of France. The British were inexperienced and ill-lead in the Crimea, Lord Raglan (Commander of British forces) had not seen a battle fields in Europe since 1815. France won the war.

Austria, I am sure we can come to a deal, most European disputes ended in conferences (Tangier, Agadir etc)

As for UK, there is no formal alliance but we are on good terms since the Crimea

[Elepis]

anyway, I am sure we can come to a deal, gun boat diplomacy and all that

Mmm.

I'll try to leave the Ottomans alone, leaving you an ally, if you leave Kamerun alone.

You can have all the Balkans if you leave Africa alone

[Kumbhalgarh]

Name of Nation: The Netherland
Population: (the population of your nation estimate): 5,000,000
Population [Empire Total Estimate] (If you have an Empire): 30,000,000
Military Branches: Koninklijke Landmacht (KL), Royal Netherlands Army. Koninklijke Marine (KM), Royal Netherlands Navy and Korps Mariniers (Marine Corps).
Country and Territories (Preferably a map): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... landen.png

Head of State: King William 111
Head of Government: Maurits Nederlof
Government Style: Monarchy
Primary Weapon (Rifle): Minnie Muzzle Loader
Secondary Weapon (Pistol or Knife): Canon obusier de 12
Standard Artillery: 10.5-cm leFH 16
Most powerful Naval Vessels: Ironclad warship
History (Optional):
RP Sample: Paths of Fantasia
429 (It helps to find apps)

[Arana]

Name of Nation: The Netherland
Population: (the population of your nation estimate): 10,000,000
Population [Empire Total Estimate] (If you have an Empire): 30,000,000
Military Branches: Koninklijke Landmacht (KL), Royal Netherlands Army. Koninklijke Marine (KM), Royal Netherlands Navy and Korps Mariniers (Marine Corps).
Country and Territories (Preferably a map): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... landen.png

Head of State: King William 1
Head of Government: Maurits Nederlof
Government Style: Monarchy
Primary Weapon (Rifle): Henry Model 1860
Secondary Weapon (Pistol or Knife): Liege Model 1860
Standard Artillery: 10.5-cm leFH 16
Most powerful Naval Vessels: Ironclad warship
History (Optional):
RP Sample: Paths of Fantasia
429 (It helps to find apps)

Your population is too high. The population of the Netherlands was only about 5 million in 1900, and this is 39 years earlier than that.

[New Jordslag]

Name of Nation: The Netherland
Population: (the population of your nation estimate): 10,000,000
Population [Empire Total Estimate] (If you have an Empire): 30,000,000
Military Branches: Koninklijke Landmacht (KL), Royal Netherlands Army. Koninklijke Marine (KM), Royal Netherlands Navy and Korps Mariniers (Marine Corps).
Country and Territories (Preferably a map): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... landen.png

Head of State: King William 1
Head of Government: Maurits Nederlof
Government Style: Monarchy
Primary Weapon (Rifle): Henry Model 1860
Secondary Weapon (Pistol or Knife): Liege Model 1860
Standard Artillery: 10.5-cm leFH 16
Most powerful Naval Vessels: Ironclad warship
History (Optional):
RP Sample: Paths of Fantasia
429 (It helps to find apps)

So Ghana, Suriname, Guyana, Nethelands Antilles, Sint Maartin, Sint Eustatius, Saba, and Indonesia are your colonies.

Niiiice.

[Kumbhalgarh]

Name of Nation: The Netherland
Population: (the population of your nation estimate): 10,000,000
Population [Empire Total Estimate] (If you have an Empire): 30,000,000
Military Branches: Koninklijke Landmacht (KL), Royal Netherlands Army. Koninklijke Marine (KM), Royal Netherlands Navy and Korps Mariniers (Marine Corps).
Country and Territories (Preferably a map): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... landen.png

Head of State: King William 1
Head of Government: Maurits Nederlof
Government Style: Monarchy
Primary Weapon (Rifle): Henry Model 1860
Secondary Weapon (Pistol or Knife): Liege Model 1860
Standard Artillery: 10.5-cm leFH 16
Most powerful Naval Vessels: Ironclad warship
History (Optional):
RP Sample: Paths of Fantasia
429 (It helps to find apps)

Your population is too high. The population of the Netherlands was only about 5 million in 1900, and this is 39 years earlier than that.

edited dat

[Elepis]

Name of Nation: The Netherland
Population: (the population of your nation estimate): 5,000,000
Population [Empire Total Estimate] (If you have an Empire): 30,000,000
Military Branches: Koninklijke Landmacht (KL), Royal Netherlands Army. Koninklijke Marine (KM), Royal Netherlands Navy and Korps Mariniers (Marine Corps).
Country and Territories (Preferably a map): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... landen.png

Head of State: King William 1
Head of Government: Maurits Nederlof
Government Style: Monarchy
Primary Weapon (Rifle): Henry Model 1860
Secondary Weapon (Pistol or Knife): Liege Model 1860
Standard Artillery: 10.5-cm leFH 16
Most powerful Naval Vessels: Ironclad warship
History (Optional):
RP Sample: Paths of Fantasia
429 (It helps to find apps)

Fix population and change the king to William III

[Kumbhalgarh]

Name of Nation: The Netherland
Population: (the population of your nation estimate): 5,000,000
Population [Empire Total Estimate] (If you have an Empire): 30,000,000
Military Branches: Koninklijke Landmacht (KL), Royal Netherlands Army. Koninklijke Marine (KM), Royal Netherlands Navy and Korps Mariniers (Marine Corps).
Country and Territories (Preferably a map): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... landen.png

Head of State: King William 1
Head of Government: Maurits Nederlof
Government Style: Monarchy
Primary Weapon (Rifle): Henry Model 1860
Secondary Weapon (Pistol or Knife): Liege Model 1860
Standard Artillery: 10.5-cm leFH 16
Most powerful Naval Vessels: Ironclad warship
History (Optional):
RP Sample: Paths of Fantasia
429 (It helps to find apps)

Fix population and change the king to William III

Edited. Good?

[Elepis]

Name of Nation: The Netherland
Population: (the population of your nation estimate): 5,000,000
Population [Empire Total Estimate] (If you have an Empire): 30,000,000
Military Branches: Koninklijke Landmacht (KL), Royal Netherlands Army. Koninklijke Marine (KM), Royal Netherlands Navy and Korps Mariniers (Marine Corps).
Country and Territories (Preferably a map): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... landen.png

Head of State: King William 1
Head of Government: Maurits Nederlof
Government Style: Monarchy
Primary Weapon (Rifle): Henry Model 1860
Secondary Weapon (Pistol or Knife): Liege Model 1860
Standard Artillery: 10.5-cm leFH 16
Most powerful Naval Vessels: Ironclad warship
History (Optional):
RP Sample: Paths of Fantasia
429 (It helps to find apps)

Fix population and change the king to William III

also change the rifle to the Minie Muzzle Loader

[Kumbhalgarh]

Fix population and change the king to William III

also change the rifle to the Minie Muzzle Loader

Done.

[Elepis]

Fix population and change the king to William III

also change the rifle to the Minie Muzzle Loader

oh, and change artillery to the Canon obusier de 12 (the one you have did not come in until 1916)

[Kumbhalgarh]

also change the rifle to the Minie Muzzle Loader

oh, and change artillery to the Canon obusier de 12 (the one you have did not come in until 1916)

Done/

[Elepis]

oh, and change artillery to the Canon obusier de 12 (the one you have did not come in until 1916)

Done/

accepted!

[Elepis]

Done/

accepted!

you put the cannon in the pistol area pleases change, but still accepted

[Trezzano]

Name of Nation: The Netherland
Population: (the population of your nation estimate): 5,000,000
Population [Empire Total Estimate] (If you have an Empire): 30,000,000
Military Branches: Koninklijke Landmacht (KL), Royal Netherlands Army. Koninklijke Marine (KM), Royal Netherlands Navy and Korps Mariniers (Marine Corps).
Country and Territories (Preferably a map): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... landen.png

Head of State: King William 111
Head of Government: Maurits Nederlof
Government Style: Monarchy
Primary Weapon (Rifle): Minnie Muzzle Loader
Secondary Weapon (Pistol or Knife): Canon obusier de 12
Standard Artillery: 10.5-cm leFH 16
Most powerful Naval Vessels: Ironclad warship
History (Optional):
RP Sample: Paths of Fantasia
429 (It helps to find apps)

You would actually have 500,000 colonial population more thanks to your South American and Carribean Colonies.

[New Jordslag]

Mmm.

I'll try to leave the Ottomans alone, leaving you an ally, if you leave Kamerun alone.

You can have all the Balkans if you leave Africa alone

I don't want all of the Balkans though. I want dem African Colonies.

Hmm. How 'bout this. You can have Kamerun if you help transport my colonists to East Africa, which you don't seem interested in colonizing anyway. Sound good?