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Where do you want the next installment to be set? You can choose two.

Poll ended at Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:55 pm

Omaha Nebraska
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Hawaiian Islands
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Portland Oregon
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Southern Florida
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Detroit Michigan
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Charlotte North Carolina
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Total votes : 15

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Postby SaintB » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:53 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
SaintB wrote:Guys, the Oglasts, Skysavagers, Gutters, and River Cobras all need to be edited out of the archives until Elerian makes a decision on them.

If Elerian decides against my creatures, I will delete them. Until then, I'll leave them there. I won't mention them in the RP unless Elerian approves of them, though.

Just please remove them for now. The headquarters of your group is fine in there.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:54 pm

Audubon Swampland:
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Name of animal: Gutter
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where does it live?: Audubon Swampland, Mississippi River around the Chapel Bend
Is it dangerous?: Extremely so.
Is it Carnivorous?: Yes.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has: The Gutter, as it's now called after the butchering of its original name, the Gator, is a river creature known for its speed and jaw strength. If touched, the spines that cover it will pierce the skin, and the one that touched it will die within an hour, as Gutter Poison is one of the most fast-acting known to man. There is no known cure, and it is known to follow poisoned victims and feast on their remains, eating humans whole. The creature has a lower jaw that extends farther, as its mouth is incapable of housing its four center teeth, the middle two which extend over half a foot. These teeth are primarily used as cutting instruments, and natives will often remove them to use for knives and blades. The gutter is also a land animal, and has feet with a rough circumference of one foot, somewhat ironically. It is built like a tank, and an odd feature of it is the fact that it can retract or protract its legs, two a maximum length of two feet. It is also capable of turning its head completely, however not around; rather, sideways, so it is essentially capable of inverting its head and vision. These are often mistaken for mangled corpses, and those who mistake it for that die fairly quickly.

#animal
Name of animal: River Cobra
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where does it live?: Mississippi River, mainly New Orleans
Is it dangerous?: Extremely so.
Is it Carnivorous?: No, not ordinarily, although it will turn from vegetation to meat if need arises.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has: The River Cobra appears to be some sort of combination of a King Cobra and an eel. However, the truth is far stranger, and far more disturbing. It shares traits with creatures such as Anacondas, Sharks, Freshwater Stingrays, and Catfish. When killing predators, it will strangle its enemy with its body. Both its face and tail look almost identical, however the stinger on its tail injects anything it pierces with poison almost half as lethal as Gutter poison. The creature's head is actually a mix of that of the Goblin Shark and the Catfish. Although not capable of coming on to land, a large horn protrudes from the front of it (hence the stinger/horn confusion) that it uses to drill holes into the riverbed and occasionally under the ground. Oddly enough, River Cobras are very social creatures, and live in colonies not dissimilar from ant colonies. They are sometimes called the Wastelander's Best Friend because of the fact that it is generally a friendly creature and is an enemy of almost every predator in the Mississippi. It is also concentrated around areas in Baton Rouge, oddly enough.


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Name of animal: Skysavager
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where does it live?: Most of the Gulf Commonwealth
Is it dangerous?: Catastrophically so.
Is it Carnivorous?: Yes.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has: The Skysavager is a winged creature, exhibiting piranha like behaviors. It has webbed feet, gills, and wings. Unfortunately, there is nowhere that it can be escaped. They travel in flocks of twenty, although one is probably enough to kill the average wastelander. They embed themselves into the skin of their targets, and erupt through their throats. Skysavagers are about the size of pigeons, and have a beak concealing two rows of rotating teeth, all absurdly sharp. Thankfully, they have one fatal flaw, which is the fact that they are averse to light. They appear to be descended from bats and owls, considering their leathery wings and rotating heads. The nightvision of Skysavagers is far more accurate than the average night-vision camera.
Skysavagers appear to have originated from New Orleans, and populate areas such as caves, ruins, and the bodies of large animals. Wastelanders tend to attempt to scavenge from the large corpses they enjoy inhabiting, and are often killed in that manner. The torso of a skysavager is haphazardly covered in scales, leaving several vital areas exposed. The skin of a Skysavager itself is actually remarkably weak to bullets. Another thankful thing is that they are non-poisonous, although that's not saying much when they enter through small cavities inside of you, and literally burst out of your neck. The main reason they're spread all throughout the Gulf Commonwealth is the fact that they lay about one hundred eggs at a time, usually about half of them surviving. A remarkable feature of the Skysavager is the fact that it has an extreme resistance to acidity. Animals often swallow it whole, although the Oglast is only rarely forced to, and it chews through the stomach of the creature that thinks it has eaten it. Skysavagers and Oglasts are mostly on par with each other, although Oglasts are probably the reason that the wasteland of the United States isn't completely destroyed by now.


The Cage: [WIP]
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Name of animal: Numbwalker
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where does it live?: Contained within The Cage, however, have been sighted near Rat City. Sightings currently unsubstantiated...
Is it dangerous?: Extremely so.
Is it Carnivorous?: Yes, although they don't tend to eat human beings.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has: Numbwalkers are grotesque, and only look vaguely human. The radiation has amplified their disorder, most descended from people who had Riley-Day syndrome. Combined with heightened levels of chemicals often found in morphine, Numbwalkers are completely immune to pain, and most are dismembered in multiple places. These creatures have no upper digestive tract, and only use the mouth cavity for breathing. They are forced to carve into their own abdomens with knives to directly insert food into their stomachs, causing their stomach acid to be far more potent than the type created by humans. As they are immune to pain, this is actually a natural instinct to them. Although not necessarily malevolent, numbwalkers have no sense of feeling whatsoever. As such, contact with them often results in death, even a handshake usually resulting in crushed fingers and other such injuries. Numbwalkers also have no nasal cavity, one of the reasons that their mouths are used purely for breathing, as there is no other way for them to perform that operation. A main reason they tend to stay in The Cage by choice is the fact that they have a severe lack of melanin, and the sun hurts them fiercely. They in fact have no pituitary gland, and are forced to take melanin from humans if they wish to leave The Cage. As such, any encounters with a Numbwalker outside of The Cage almost always results in a messy end.


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Name of animal: Masondever
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where does it live?: The Cage, Rat City Outskirts, and Scout Island
Is it dangerous?: Yes, quite so.
Is it Carnivorous?: Yes.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has: The Masondever is named after an adaptation of the French phrase "Maison de vers" or house of worms, in English. They're the descendants of people with a slew of mental disorders, though most notably Ekbom's Syndrome. These creatures are filled with various parasites and worms, as well as other similar creatures. However, they're unable to tell when they are versus when they are not. Masondevers often bite large chunks of flesh out of themselves, attempting to rid themselves of the creatures. When confronted with others, they react similar, and it is believed that they suspect others to be homes to parasites as well. This has resulted in a cannibalistic diet, one consisting of nothing but parasites and human flesh. Wastelanders that spend too much time around masondevers actually find themselves convinced with the same delusions, and masondevers often convert many wastelanders this way. Those unfortunate enough to visit Scout Island are certain to have this occur, as a group of masondevers escaped from The Cage and began a colony there. Signs warn people away from the area, although people often don't listen and are inevitably converted. They are one of the main enemies of the Gatekeepers, and are considered zombies because of the fact that people observed being bitten into often become masondevers, although the actual reason why is a modified brainwave pattern, partially because of the radiation.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:55 pm

Alright, this gives me time to work on my creatures that are contained in "The Cage" anyway.
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Postby Ontorisa » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:57 pm

Skysavager looks less OP now and gives the Oglast more of a chance :)

Thanks for the good edit man.

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Postby Prusslandia » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:05 pm

Maybe the Sawyers should breed Skysavagers. :twisted:
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Postby SaintB » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:05 pm

Virenna wrote:
SaintB wrote:Your character is accepted but lets talk about your gang for a sec please. Could you break down the numbers (how many prostitutes, how many thugs, how many associates, and et. all)?


Sure. The majority is prostitutes with 40, then around 20 regular boxers, 37 thugs paid daily to actually bring order to the streets and carry out day-to-day operations, and 14 actual members of the gang, who lead all these operations.

Sorry, meant to get to this sooner but dinner and other things happened. Add those numbers too your App, and once that edit is made poke me in a private message and I'll get you in.
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Postby SaintB » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:10 pm

Galter Gulcher wrote:
SaintB wrote:Ok, so where are the people of Rat-Rod getting their gasoline from? That would require a steady supply of crude petroleum and a refinery, or are they using some alternative fuel source? There still there needs to be a reason for how they have it regardless. To me the rest looks ok, Elerian might think differently though.


Alternative fuel sources such as bio-fuel,yes. Traders from Mexico have brought Salicornia in addition to Soybeans witch can be made into oil.

Getting a constant and big enough supply for them would be a major hassle it sounds like... also about the fleet of boats, what kinds? I'm just trying to help you get this all squared up.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:12 pm

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Kazarogkai wrote:ohh there was plenty my brother, go play the originals and you will be very well versed. Human experimentation of military prisoners, they made the fev, civil unrest, nondemocratic elections, The Big Mountain Research and Development Center, severe amounts of imperialism(they invaded Canada and Mexico and helped get rid of the UN) and various other issues. It wasn't Nazi Germany but it was verging on it honestly.

Also unlike the Enclaves attempts at extermination which were all intentional, Bitter springs was a very unfortunate accident based off the evidence(combine that they were going up against a militant tribe where the distinguishing between civilian and military are very blurry). NCR has gotten pretty bad overtime though i will admit, which is sad they started out with such promise back in Fallout 1.

I'd rather not play the original two Fallout games. I really don't think Fallout would be anywhere near as fun if it were turn-based, that and the graphics look shitty as fuck. Fallout 3, I would consider playing, but from what I hear, the gameplay isn't as fun in Fallout 3 as it is in New Vegas, and that Fallout 3 doesn't offer as many storyline choices as New Vegas, so I decided not to buy it during Steam's Christmas sale. If you own the newest game in a series, there isn't much reason to go back and play the older games, for the most part, unless you want to do it for nostalgia or something. So, no thank you, I think I'll refrain from playing the older Fallout games.

Anyway, as for the pre-war American government, I'd rather not get too far off topic by talking about political matters, so I'll just leave it at that.

As for Bitter Springs and the massacre of the Great Khans, even if it was an accident, that doesn't excuse the slaughter of unarmed civilians. There's a fine line between doing whatever it takes to win a war and outright murdering innocent people; there's no excuse for slaughtering unarmed children and the elderly.


I would kindly disagree but that is for another discussion so I agree lets not talk politics here.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:15 pm

Just finished my first draft of the first Cage creature; the Numbwalker. FYI, I'm basing all creatures found in The Cage off of real mental disorders, and for the observant, yes, an episode of the X-Files. Thoughts?
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Postby Kazarogkai » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:19 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
SaintB wrote:Hey Pruss... if they truly have an anti-material rifle they'll do a lot more than dent your armor with it...

Pruss? I'm going to assume that you meant to say FRE, considering the fact that Pruss hasn't mentioned anything about anti-material rifles?

Anyway, sniper rifles and anti-material rifles really don't actually do that much damage, at least not in New Vegas. Having a good suit of armor really nullifies a lot of the base damage, and then, since they take time reload, by the time they're finished reloading, you could have already shot them to death or have a machete at their throat. The only thing they're really good for is taking out lightly armored opponents from a distance.


In game yes but in canon they are very powerful, they are meant for things like vehicles and the like.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:43 pm

Alright guys, finished my second Cage creature, the masondever. Any thoughts on that? I plan to right in depth posts in the Field Guide about The Cage, the Audubon Swampland, and Scout Island.
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Postby Elerian » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:02 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:#area
Name of Region: The Chapel Bend (colloquially referred to as The Bend)
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where is it located?: The ruined New Orleans neighborhoods of the French Quarter, Algiers Point, Marigny, Bywater, and the Far Eastern part of the Central Business District
What type of region is it?: Urban Swamp, building covered in vines, flooded, etc.

Describe the Region: The Chapel Bend got its name from the large number of churches, cathedrals and the like in the area. Encompassing the St. Louis Cathedral, the Holy Name of Mary Catholic Church, Mt. Olivet Church, Trinity Lutheran Church, Holy Angels Convent, Blessed Francis Xavier Seelos Parish, Greater Liberty Baptist Church, Timothy Trumpet of Truth, St. Paul Lutheran Church, and many others, it's probably safe to say that it is a region with one of the largest amounts of ruined churches in the wastes. Commonly referred to as Gatekeeper Country as they were the first group to lay claim to it, it features an uncommonly large number of ghouls, possibly due to proximity with the Old Pre-War Military Base, which is unfortunate for said ghouls considering the Gatekeepers refer to them as vampires and are very hostile towards them. Other features of this region include the ruins of WWOZ radio, which has been taken over by the Gatekeepers, the Bourbon Stretch, probably the most dangerous street in all of the Louisiana Wastes, the infamous Audubon Swampland, an area that was once an aquarium, but now is a habitat for deep sea creatures that have long since adapted to the swamps, and are now nightmarish predators, and The Cage, formerly Chartres-Pontchartrain Mental Hospital, now home to a fearsome group of mutated abominations that have bred and are consumed by psychosis, almost no longer even recognizable from when they were human.

Creatures:
Audubon Swampland:
#animal
Name of animal: Gutter
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where does it live?: Audubon Swampland, Mississippi River around the Chapel Bend
Is it dangerous?: Extremely so.
Is it Carnivorous?: Yes.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has: The Gutter, as it's now called after the butchering of its original name, the Gator, is a river creature known for its speed and jaw strength. If touched, the spines that cover it will pierce the skin, and the one that touched it will die within an hour, as Gutter Poison is one of the most fast-acting known to man. There is no known cure, and it is known to follow poisoned victims and feast on their remains, eating humans whole. The creature has a lower jaw that extends farther, as its mouth is incapable of housing its four center teeth, the middle two which extend over half a foot. These teeth are primarily used as cutting instruments, and natives will often remove them to use for knives and blades. The gutter is also a land animal, and has feet with a rough circumference of one foot, somewhat ironically. It is built like a tank, and an odd feature of it is the fact that it can retract or protract its legs, two a maximum length of two feet. It is also capable of turning its head completely, however not around; rather, sideways, so it is essentially capable of inverting its head and vision. These are often mistaken for mangled corpses, and those who mistake it for that die fairly quickly.

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Name of animal: River Cobra
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where does it live?: Mississippi River, mainly New Orleans
Is it dangerous?: Extremely so.
Is it Carnivorous?: No, not ordinarily, although it will turn from vegetation to meat if need arises.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has: The River Cobra appears to be some sort of combination of a King Cobra and an eel. However, the truth is far stranger, and far more disturbing. It shares traits with creatures such as Anacondas, Sharks, Freshwater Stingrays, and Catfish. When killing predators, it will strangle its enemy with its body. Both its face and tail look almost identical, however the stinger on its tail injects anything it pierces with poison almost half as lethal as Gutter poison. The creature's head is actually a mix of that of the Goblin Shark and the Catfish. Although not capable of coming on to land, a large horn protrudes from the front of it (hence the stinger/horn confusion) that it uses to drill holes into the riverbed and occasionally under the ground. Oddly enough, River Cobras are very social creatures, and live in colonies not dissimilar from ant colonies. They are sometimes called the Wastelander's Best Friend because of the fact that it is generally a friendly creature and is an enemy of almost every predator in the Mississippi. It is also concentrated around areas in Baton Rouge, oddly enough.


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Name of animal: Skysavager
Submitted by: Neo-Chicago

Where does it live?: Most of the Gulf Commonwealth
Is it dangerous?: Catastrophically so.
Is it Carnivorous?: Yes.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has: The Skysavager is a winged creature, exhibiting piranha like behaviors. It has webbed feet, gills, and wings. Unfortunately, there is nowhere that it can be escaped. They travel in flocks of twenty, although one is probably enough to kill the average wastelander. They embed themselves into the skin of their targets, and erupt through their throats. Skysavagers are about the size of pigeons, and have a beak concealing two rows of rotating teeth, all absurdly sharp. Thankfully, they have one fatal flaw, which is the fact that they are averse to light. They appear to be descended from bats and owls, considering their leathery wings and rotating heads. The nightvision of Skysavagers is far more accurate than the average night-vision camera. Skysavagers appear to have originated from New Orleans, and populate areas such as caves, ruins, and the bodies of large animals. Wastelanders tend to attempt to scavenge from the large corpses they enjoy inhabiting, and are often killed in that manner. The torso of a skysavager is scaled, with an almost metallic armor. Another thankful thing is that they are non-poisonous, although that's not saying much when they enter through small cavities inside of you, and literally burst out of your neck. The main reason they're spread all throughout the Gulf Commonwealth is the fact that they lay about two hundred eggs at a time, usually about half of them surviving.


SaintB is a Co-op, if he tells you to do something then you do it. Ergo, taking your app off the Archive thread when he asked several times. In the future, I'd suggest you listen to him when he tells you to do something.

But onto the app. I'm just gonna outright say no to the Skysavagers, unless you want to nerf them considerably. They are far more OP than if a Deathclaw and a Cazadore were somehow fused into one hellish abomination.

Your River Cobra dosen't really make that much sense. All the animals you mentioned were carnivores, and yet River Cobras are not?

I suppose the Gutter is fine, but nerf the poison. Tribals wouldn't be able to touch the thing if it came into their territory, let alone kill it if their weapons of choice were throwing spears and machetes. And lastly why would they be able to protract their feet?

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Postby Ontorisa » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:04 pm

@Elerian

I made a creature to combat the Skysavager to help in toning it down greatly. I think it's on the previous page under the Oglast spoiler. It was a bit rushed so yeah, but I really wanted to counter the Skysavager.

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Postby Elerian » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:11 pm

Ontorisa wrote:#area
Name of Region: "The Front"
Submitted by: Ontorisa

Where is it located?: Northern Louisiana/Southern Mississippi
What type of region is it?: A desert-like wasteland with plenty of ridges and valleys. On the flat plains however, there are oasis of fresh water with tress growing around them.

Describe the Region:

The Front, as it is nicknamed, is a main passage for travellers going from Louisiana to the Mississippi wasteland. It also possesses some of the most diverse animal species in all of Louisiana from the magnificent Backcush to the Selki. The Front, as much of a paradise as it sounds, is a harsh environment to survive in if one is not conditioned/guided/used to the difficult landscape of the region. At times, especially during the night when the Backcushes are at their most dangerous, the Front has claimed many lives of inexperienced drifters, traders, hunters and explorers. However, knowing the Front can be something that is extremely useful, able to traverse the valley, which at times becomes a labyrinth of canyons, streams and caves, and the surface, which is mostly nothing but desert-like plains with the occasional oasis of freshwater and trees.

Due to the severity and lack of willing guides, the Front has not been militarized due to the dangers of maintaining a force there due to the hostile wildlife and environment. As a result, the Front is mostly used as an entrance, exit and hunting ground for local hunters and poachers.

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Name of animal: Backcush
Submitted by: Ontie

Where does it live?: The Front
Is it dangerous?: Very, especially during the night
Is it Carnivorous?: The Backcush is a carnivore.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has:

The Backcush is a prized hunting target for its fur, its meat and simply looking at how the Fallout has affected the Black Bear population of Louisiana. The Backcush has a fifth leg growing out of its chest and a small dark pink mushroom-like thing growing out of its forehead. During the daytime, the Backcush is harmless, navigating around the Front very slowly mostly by using its nose, its ears and its paws while having its hearing increase thrice-fold since it does not use its sight. During the nighttime however, the Backcush becomes a lighting fast predator, able to run long distances easily and hunting anything that is unlucky to be caught by it. Its hearing returns to normal, still sensitive but not as sensitive during the nighttime due to its sight being used as well. The sight of the Backcush is a thermal-like vision similar to that of a snake's, nullifying the handicap of darkness. The fear of this amazing predator is mostly light and loud noises like gunshots.

Overview:
- Sensitive hearing, especially during the daytime when the Backcush's vision is not used
- Strong, fast and a superb hunter during the nighttime
- Afraid of light and loud noises like gunshots
- Good using its nose, paws and ears to navigate during the daytime
- Tough to hunt
- Everything about it is valuable, especially the fur (sells for 200 caps/3 inches) and meat (400 caps/pound for the best meat, 180 caps/pound for the worst)


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Name of animal: Jengal
Submitted by: Ontie

Where does it live?: The Front
Is it dangerous?: Alone, no, in packs, yes.
Is it Carnivorous?: The Jengal is an omnivore, mostly scavenging on its own. In packs however, they can take down almost anything, except for Backcushes.

Describe the animal and any unusual traits or abilities it has:

Jengals are similar to dogs, their appearance can be summed up as that. They travel in packs of nine to twelve strong and are strong jumpers as well as attracted to canned food (consider it to be their domestic sense). As well, Jengals are also inedible, eating meat of Jengals would probably infuriate more Jengals if one was to run into them, as cooked Jengal has a distinctive smell to it. Being a pack animal, Jengals hunt in packs, mostly during the daytime in surprise attacks, however, they can also hunt at night as well.

Overview:
- Fast, small and aggressive
- Pack animals, usually travel in packs of 9 to 12
- Attracted to canned food items that are opened
- Inedible, cooked Jengal has a specific smell to it attracting other Jengals who will attack on sight
- Valuable fur, which sells for 100 caps/3 inches


How big of an area is the Front?

By 100/3 inches you mean a hundred caps for every three inches of pelt?

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SaintB is a Co-op, if he tells you to do something then you do it. Ergo, taking your app off the Archive thread when he asked several times. In the future, I'd suggest you listen to him when he tells you to do something.

But onto the app. I'm just gonna outright say no to the Skysavagers, unless you want to nerf them considerably. They are far more OP than if a Deathclaw and a Cazadore were somehow fused into one hellish abomination.

Your River Cobra dosen't really make that much sense. All the animals you mentioned were carnivores, and yet River Cobras are not?

I suppose the Gutter is fine, but nerf the poison. Tribals wouldn't be able to touch the thing if it came into their territory, let alone kill it if their weapons of choice were throwing spears and machetes. And lastly why would they be able to protract their feet?


Alright, in the future, I'll do that.

Is there any way I could modify the Skysavagers to make them acceptable? I want them to be feared, plus, the Oglast was made to combat the Skysavager, so are you okay with the Skysavager if the Oglast coexists with it? I just want the Skysavager to be the most feared animal in Louisiana, because no one's ever even really mentioned the environment being anything near a problem.

Alright, nerf it in what way? Should I make it so that they're non-poisonous once their blood is drained? Also, what do you mean by why? Just why would they need to? It helps them navigate the swampy and muddy terrain, as well as maneuver more quickly.

By the way, the Skysavager you're looking at is a considerably older version of it. I've updated it near the top of this page, as well as made two creatures found in The Cage. Could you check that out?
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Postby Ontorisa » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:18 pm

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Ontorisa wrote:Snip


How big of an area is the Front?

By 100/3 inches you mean a hundred caps for every three inches of pelt?


Erm, maybe 50x20 kilometres, maybe a few kilometres shorter than that?

Ye. If the price seems OP I'll tone it down for the Jengal. But the Backcush it has to be expensive since the Backcush is extremely hard to hunt.

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Postby SaintB » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:27 pm

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Elerian wrote:
SaintB is a Co-op, if he tells you to do something then you do it. Ergo, taking your app off the Archive thread when he asked several times. In the future, I'd suggest you listen to him when he tells you to do something.

But onto the app. I'm just gonna outright say no to the Skysavagers, unless you want to nerf them considerably. They are far more OP than if a Deathclaw and a Cazadore were somehow fused into one hellish abomination.

Your River Cobra dosen't really make that much sense. All the animals you mentioned were carnivores, and yet River Cobras are not?

I suppose the Gutter is fine, but nerf the poison. Tribals wouldn't be able to touch the thing if it came into their territory, let alone kill it if their weapons of choice were throwing spears and machetes. And lastly why would they be able to protract their feet?


Alright, in the future, I'll do that.

Is there any way I could modify the Skysavagers to make them acceptable? I want them to be feared, plus, the Oglast was made to combat the Skysavager, so are you okay with the Skysavager if the Oglast coexists with it? I just want the Skysavager to be the most feared animal in Louisiana, because no one's ever even really mentioned the environment being anything near a problem.

Alright, nerf it in what way? Should I make it so that they're non-poisonous once their blood is drained? Also, what do you mean by why? Just why would they need to? It helps them navigate the swampy and muddy terrain, as well as maneuver more quickly.

By the way, the Skysavager you're looking at is a considerably older version of it. I've updated it near the top of this page, as well as made two creatures found in The Cage. Could you check that out?

If the skysavagers are like flying piranha make them behave like those, no burrowing behavior but dozens upon dozens of small bites, able to chew through light armor like leather but not hardened armors and they'd be dangerous because they attack in swarms and can cause disease and infection, maybe they can have anticoagulants in their saliva that act like vampire bat bites and can cause people to bleed to death?
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Postby Kazarogkai » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:29 pm

Ontorisa wrote:
Elerian wrote:
How big of an area is the Front?

By 100/3 inches you mean a hundred caps for every three inches of pelt?


Erm, maybe 50x20 kilometres, maybe a few kilometres shorter than that?

Ye. If the price seems OP I'll tone it down for the Jengal. But the Backcush it has to be expensive since the Backcush is extremely hard to hunt.


Hard to kill =/= price

Supply and demand brother, doesn't matter if you have a large supply if you aint got not demand you aint got no product bro. People have to actually want it in order for it to be worth anything, and the supply is dependent on how much of that thing they want is available.
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Postby Elerian » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:30 pm

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I don't know about anyone else but your last two simply don't seem very plausible. I know that Fallout is filled with unrealistic stuff, but they just seem like some sort of being straight out of a horror game/movie.

Now back to the Sky Savager, the Oglast are supposedly only in the north while your creatures are everywhere in Louisiana, thus it would seem to me that that doesn't really work to contain Skysavagers. Not only that but this is basically the same thing as the Aliens from Alien, minus the laying eggs inside people's stomach part. They are simply too overpowered as they are.

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Postby Elerian » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:34 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Ontorisa wrote:
Erm, maybe 50x20 kilometres, maybe a few kilometres shorter than that?

Ye. If the price seems OP I'll tone it down for the Jengal. But the Backcush it has to be expensive since the Backcush is extremely hard to hunt.


Hard to kill =/= price

Supply and demand brother, doesn't matter if you have a large supply if you aint got not demand you aint got no product bro. People have to actually want it in order for it to be worth anything, and the supply is dependent on how much of that thing they want is available.


Was that directed at me or him?

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Postby Neo-Chicago » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:35 pm

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Neo-Chicago wrote:
Alright, in the future, I'll do that.

Is there any way I could modify the Skysavagers to make them acceptable? I want them to be feared, plus, the Oglast was made to combat the Skysavager, so are you okay with the Skysavager if the Oglast coexists with it? I just want the Skysavager to be the most feared animal in Louisiana, because no one's ever even really mentioned the environment being anything near a problem.

Alright, nerf it in what way? Should I make it so that they're non-poisonous once their blood is drained? Also, what do you mean by why? Just why would they need to? It helps them navigate the swampy and muddy terrain, as well as maneuver more quickly.

By the way, the Skysavager you're looking at is a considerably older version of it. I've updated it near the top of this page, as well as made two creatures found in The Cage. Could you check that out?

If the skysavagers are like flying piranha make them behave like those, no burrowing behavior but dozens upon dozens of small bites, able to chew through light armor like leather but not hardened armors and they'd be dangerous because they attack in swarms and can cause disease and infection, maybe they can have anticoagulants in their saliva that act like vampire bat bites and can cause people to bleed to death?


Are you... are you suggesting I make the Skysavager MORE deadly? Also, you're confusing piranhas with leeches. They DO attack in swarms, piranhas don't cause disease and infection, also, they burrow by biting repeatedly into the skin. They're SIMILAR to pirahnas, I'm not saying they ARE piranhas.

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I don't know about anyone else but your last two simply don't seem very plausible. I know that Fallout is filled with unrealistic stuff, but they just seem like some sort of being straight out of a horror game/movie.

Now back to the Sky Savager, the Oglast are supposedly only in the north while your creatures are everywhere in Louisiana, thus it would seem to me that that doesn't really work to contain Skysavagers. Not only that but this is basically the same thing as the Aliens from Alien, minus the laying eggs inside people's stomach part. They are simply too overpowered as they are.


He never said that the Oglast are only in the North. By the way, you haven't suggested HOW to make the Skysavagers less OP. Also, the mental disorders I mentioned are very real, and many of the things I mentioned seem quite plausible. You're forgetting that Fallout actually follows 50s sci-fi rules anyway. What do you specifically have a problem with in The Cage.
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Postby Ontorisa » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:36 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
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Erm, maybe 50x20 kilometres, maybe a few kilometres shorter than that?

Ye. If the price seems OP I'll tone it down for the Jengal. But the Backcush it has to be expensive since the Backcush is extremely hard to hunt.


Hard to kill =/= price

Supply and demand brother, doesn't matter if you have a large supply if you aint got not demand you aint got no product bro. People have to actually want it in order for it to be worth anything, and the supply is dependent on how much of that thing they want is available.


Oh if that's the case then the meat's a delicacy. It's like prime rib steak or t-bone in our world today. It's probably the best meat you can get (exaggeration, I'm pretty sure there's better meat but the Backcush's meat's really good) and the fur's pretty soft and is used in the interior and exterior of low to mid quality coats and fur clothes.

@Neo

I specifically said Northern Louisiana and the Front. It will make sense if the Skysavagers were based there since the Front has a bunch of weird animals.

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Ontorisa wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
Hard to kill =/= price

Supply and demand brother, doesn't matter if you have a large supply if you aint got not demand you aint got no product bro. People have to actually want it in order for it to be worth anything, and the supply is dependent on how much of that thing they want is available.


Oh if that's the case then the meat's a delicacy. It's like prime rib steak or t-bone in our world today. It's probably the best meat you can get (exaggeration, I'm pretty sure there's better meat but the Backcush's meat's really good) and the fur's pretty soft and is used in the interior and exterior of low to mid quality coats and fur clothes.

@Neo

I specifically said Northern Louisiana and the Front. It will make sense if the Skysavagers were based there since the Front has a bunch of weird animals.


Yeah, but the Skysavagers are evolved from escaped aquarium creatures in New Orleans.
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Postby Elerian » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:41 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote: He never said that the Oglast are only in the North. By the way, you haven't suggested HOW to make the Skysavagers less OP. Also, the mental disorders I mentioned are very real, and many of the things I mentioned seem quite plausible. You're forgetting that Fallout actually follows 50s sci-fi rules anyway. What do you specifically have a problem with in The Cage.


Where does it live?: The Front, Northern Louisiana


Quoted from his app for them.

I never questioned whether or not they were real or fake, I meant shoving shit down your bowels so you could eat, isn't realistic. And, again I'm not forgetting anything, just because Fallout has a lot of unrealistic stuff, doesn't justify taking it to other extremes.

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