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Where do you want the next installment to be set? You can choose two.

Poll ended at Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:55 pm

Omaha Nebraska
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Saint Louis Missouri
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Hawaiian Islands
3
20%
Portland Oregon
2
13%
Southern Florida
2
13%
Detroit Michigan
5
33%
Charlotte North Carolina
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Total votes : 15

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Postby The Sanguinian Islands » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:54 pm

Palonitr and Howland wrote:
The Sanguinian Islands wrote:the Children disapprove of slavery.

Of course they do but if we didnt have any bad guys here and there in the rp. Whats the fun in it?

Convert and abandon slaving, but you could still be a bad guy.
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Postby Conglomerate of Iron » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:55 pm

OP, for the Plugger, how should I RP? I left my character at the bridge so you could make something up. I am not sure how to proceed.
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Postby Palonitr and Howland » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:59 pm

The Sanguinian Islands wrote:
Palonitr and Howland wrote:Of course they do but if we didnt have any bad guys here and there in the rp. Whats the fun in it?

Convert and abandon slaving, but you could still be a bad guy.

Just a regular old bad guy? Nah no thanks. And Urban's thing with Slavery is enforced since birth. It'll take a real good priest to get him out of it.

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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:00 pm

In case you're wondering, the S.S. Natchez is a real boat, and on Google Earth which I'm looking at right now, it's docked in front of the St. Louis Cathedral.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:06 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Noooo. The Brotherhood should be better than the Enclave.

Carathon- You could run it.

But the Enclave are, in reality, the good guys. You realize that, right? They're the ones restoring America. We're talking about West Coast BoS, the ones concerned about scavenging technology and not much else.


By old America you mean that crazy 50s style authoritarian hell hole that was destroyed in a nuclear hell hole, remember the timeline between are world and the world of fallout diverges in the 50s-60s give or take. Really not kidding you the first man was an american in this alternate dimension that is known as the fallout universe. read the fallout bible bro, it is irrefutable canon.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:07 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:But the Enclave are, in reality, the good guys. You realize that, right? They're the ones restoring America. We're talking about West Coast BoS, the ones concerned about scavenging technology and not much else.


By old America you mean that crazy 50s style authoritarian hell hole that was destroyed in a nuclear hell hole, remember the timeline between are world and the world of fallout diverges in the 50s-60s give or take. Really not kidding you the first man was an american in this alternate dimension that is known as the fallout universe. read the fallout bible bro, it is irrefutable canon.


Yeah, I know. 50s America was a great time period.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:09 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Noooo. The Brotherhood should be better than the Enclave.

Carathon- You could run it.

The Brotherhood is nothing more than a band of thieves trying to steal everybody else's technology. They are hoarders, hoarders and raiders. The Brotherhood is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a good organization.

The Enclave, on the other hand, is trying to restore America its pre-war glory and purge it of dangerous ghouls and mutants. They might have a long list of people they're trying to kill, but at least they actually have goals outside of hoarding all the technology for themselves.

Of course, in New Vegas, I actually almost always end up joining the Brotherhood of Steel, since being a member of the Brotherhood grants all kinds of advantages (power armor training, although you can get that from the Enclave Remnants too, free energy weapon ammo, access to high quality weapons and power armor, and a suit of free power armor), but they are definitely not a good group.


Goals alone do not make you a good person, methodology is important too. I am a veteran of fallout 1 and 2 so you will not beat me on this, the enclave are horrible horrible people. They are basically the SS in a way trying to restore the Reich(USA). Until you play the original fallout's and read the Fallout Bible your on meaningless on this subject.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:11 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Brotherhood is nothing more than a band of thieves trying to steal everybody else's technology. They are hoarders, hoarders and raiders. The Brotherhood is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a good organization.

The Enclave, on the other hand, is trying to restore America its pre-war glory and purge it of dangerous ghouls and mutants. They might have a long list of people they're trying to kill, but at least they actually have goals outside of hoarding all the technology for themselves.

Of course, in New Vegas, I actually almost always end up joining the Brotherhood of Steel, since being a member of the Brotherhood grants all kinds of advantages (power armor training, although you can get that from the Enclave Remnants too, free energy weapon ammo, access to high quality weapons and power armor, and a suit of free power armor), but they are definitely not a good group.


Goals alone do not make you a good person, methodology is important too. I am a veteran of fallout 1 and 2 so you will not beat me on this, the enclave are horrible horrible people. They are basically the SS in a way trying to restore the Reich(USA). Until you play the original fallout's and read the Fallout Bible your on meaningless on this subject.


I have done both, and the USA is nothing like the Reich. By the way, you do realize that the bombs didn't literally fall in the 1950s, right? They fell in 2077.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:12 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Right, well, anyway, the sooner somebody can give me something to post about, the better. Unless everybody just wants to read about people doing boring, daily tasks in the IC, it would help to have a little more action going on.


I'm subjugating a town... was my post up to your merits bro?
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Postby Kazarogkai » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:17 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
Goals alone do not make you a good person, methodology is important too. I am a veteran of fallout 1 and 2 so you will not beat me on this, the enclave are horrible horrible people. They are basically the SS in a way trying to restore the Reich(USA). Until you play the original fallout's and read the Fallout Bible your on meaningless on this subject.


I have done both, and the USA is nothing like the Reich. By the way, you do realize that the bombs didn't literally fall in the 1950s, right? They fell in 2077.


they might as well have honestly, the USA was basically that plus extra tech honestly.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:18 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:
I have done both, and the USA is nothing like the Reich. By the way, you do realize that the bombs didn't literally fall in the 1950s, right? They fell in 2077.


they might as well have honestly, the USA was basically that plus extra tech honestly.

Give me one example of the pre-war government being like nazis. Literally one single example.
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Postby Carathon » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:19 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
they might as well have honestly, the USA was basically that plus extra tech honestly.

Give me one example of the pre-war government being like nazis. Literally one single example.


If I remember correctly, at one point there's a pre-war propaganda film where a power armored soldier literally executes a Canadian civilian and waves up to the camera happily.
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Postby The Sanguinian Islands » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:19 pm

If I was accepted, who would want to convert?
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:20 pm

Carathon wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:Give me one example of the pre-war government being like nazis. Literally one single example.


If I remember correctly, at one point there's a pre-war propaganda film where a power armored soldier literally executes a Canadian civilian and waves up to the camera happily.

Well, show me the video, and then I'll respond to that allegation.
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Postby Elerian » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:21 pm

Conglomerate of Iron wrote:OP, for the Plugger, how should I RP? I left my character at the bridge so you could make something up. I am not sure how to proceed.


You can either go spelunking or I can post again.

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Postby Conglomerate of Iron » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:25 pm

Elerian wrote:
Conglomerate of Iron wrote:OP, for the Plugger, how should I RP? I left my character at the bridge so you could make something up. I am not sure how to proceed.


You can either go spelunking or I can post again.

I want to see what will happen.

Go ahead and post.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:27 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:Goals alone do not make you a good person, methodology is important too. I am a veteran of fallout 1 and 2 so you will not beat me on this, the enclave are horrible horrible people. They are basically the SS in a way trying to restore the Reich(USA). Until you play the original fallout's and read the Fallout Bible your on meaningless on this subject.

I've read just about everything about the Enclave that there is to read on the Fallout wiki. Sure, I don't know literally everything about them, since I didn't play the earlier Fallout games, so you probably do know things I don't, but I'm pretty well versed on them.

They might want to kill a lot of people, but there's almost no faction in Fallout that doesn't do something awful. The NCR slaughters innocent people (the Great Khans at Bitter Springs being an example), Caesar's Legion slaughters innocent people (Nipton being an example), the Brotherhood of Steel robs people and steals their technology, the Great Khans sell drugs, the Powder Gangers do Powder Ganger shit, the Boomers blow up anyone who comes near their territory, the White Glove Society cannibalizes people, and the Enclave wants to genocide the mutants. They aren't any worse than the other factions in Fallout.

Hell, one of the only actually good factions in Fallout is the Followers of the Apocalypse.

The Enclave's crimes are no more significant that those of all the other factions. As for pre-war USA being comparable to Nazi-Germany, I've not read anything that suggests pre-war America was a particularly bad nation.

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Postby SaintB » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:34 pm

Okay so I thought my latest IC would be funny...
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:45 pm

SaintB wrote:Okay so I thought my latest IC would be funny...

I don't get the joke. What's supposed to be so funny?

Kazarogkai wrote:I'm subjugating a town... was my post up to your merits bro?

Why would Victor care about petty feuds and wars between the local factions? If it doesn't involve the Enclave, what reason would he have to get involved?

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Postby SaintB » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:49 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
SaintB wrote:Okay so I thought my latest IC would be funny...

I don't get the joke. What's supposed to be so funny?


Rocky mentioned firing up the brass band and when he turned the radio on it was the Inquisition's radio station playing When the Saints Come Marching In.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:54 pm

SaintB wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I don't get the joke. What's supposed to be so funny?


Rocky mentioned firing up the brass band and when he turned the radio on it was the Inquisition's radio station playing When the Saints Come Marching In.


I plan to play that song if the radio station ever gets attacked by the Saints tribe. The Superdome isn't that far from the St. Louis Cathedral...
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Postby SaintB » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:58 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
SaintB wrote:
Rocky mentioned firing up the brass band and when he turned the radio on it was the Inquisition's radio station playing When the Saints Come Marching In.


I plan to play that song if the radio station ever gets attacked by the Saints tribe. The Superdome isn't that far from the St. Louis Cathedral...

It was also the first song you picked for your station.
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Postby Elerian » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:06 pm

Palonitr and Howland wrote:Just a question. Where would be a feasable place to set up a fortress for my Slave faction.


Anywhere that isn't occupied already.

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Postby SaintB » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:10 pm

Palonitr and Howland wrote:Just a question. Where would be a feasable place to set up a fortress for my Slave faction.

Vendetta is basically the Mos Eisly of the bayou right now.
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