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by Australian Antarctica » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:29 pm
Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!
by The Klishi Islands » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:30 pm
Bolovia wrote:May I reserve Russia?
"Bullshit is everywhere. There is very little that you will encounter in life that has not been, in some ways, infused with bullshit." ~ Jon Stewart
Minds are like parachutes. They only function when open. ~ Unknown
by The Klishi Islands » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:30 pm
Australian Antarctica wrote:I am working on an extremely long post about the military in it's current state.
"Bullshit is everywhere. There is very little that you will encounter in life that has not been, in some ways, infused with bullshit." ~ Jon Stewart
Minds are like parachutes. They only function when open. ~ Unknown
by The Klishi Islands » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:34 pm
"Bullshit is everywhere. There is very little that you will encounter in life that has not been, in some ways, infused with bullshit." ~ Jon Stewart
Minds are like parachutes. They only function when open. ~ Unknown
by Skappola » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:51 pm
The Unites State-Of-Minds wrote:Yo Skappola/Klishi, could we possibly work out a general list of currencies and their relative value to one another? If for simplicity purposes we're just doing erything with usd then forget it, but iv been trying to work out transaction values between currencies.
Edit - Oops, looks like i screwed it up. Allow me to correct that.
by Skappola » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:52 pm
The Klishi Islands wrote:The Unites State-Of-Minds wrote:The onion has recently reported news that the Leader of the EU may in fact be a psychic, despite claims by government officials that Premier Hiss is, in fact, quite anti-hokum.
Jokes aside, That OOC post in the IC is giving me nightmares. I couldn't make it through my pre evening afternoon nap.
I'll have Skappola report it to moderation if possible, although I'm not sure if it's an actionable offense.
What was the comment about the only country claiming neutrality being Sweden? Is Switzerland not neutral enough for you?
by The Unites State-Of-Minds » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:59 pm
Skappola wrote:The Unites State-Of-Minds wrote:Yo Skappola/Klishi, could we possibly work out a general list of currencies and their relative value to one another? If for simplicity purposes we're just doing erything with usd then forget it, but iv been trying to work out transaction values between currencies.
Edit - Oops, looks like i screwed it up. Allow me to correct that.
Hm, that would be very useful. I could post it in one of my next News updates for everyone to see. Can you post your work? The problem is it depends on a lot of different factors, and we don't really know what the inflation rate for the various countries are.
by The Klishi Islands » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:00 pm
Skappola wrote:The Klishi Islands wrote:
I'll have Skappola report it to moderation if possible, although I'm not sure if it's an actionable offense.
What was the comment about the only country claiming neutrality being Sweden? Is Switzerland not neutral enough for you?
It's been driving me crazy, too. I thought I was the only one. I'll see whether I can convince the mods to delete it.
"Bullshit is everywhere. There is very little that you will encounter in life that has not been, in some ways, infused with bullshit." ~ Jon Stewart
Minds are like parachutes. They only function when open. ~ Unknown
by The Klishi Islands » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:01 pm
The Unites State-Of-Minds wrote:Skappola wrote:Hm, that would be very useful. I could post it in one of my next News updates for everyone to see. Can you post your work? The problem is it depends on a lot of different factors, and we don't really know what the inflation rate for the various countries are.
It depends primarily on how each economy would be compared. Today major currencies would be the United States Dollar, Euro, Japanese Yen and British Pound. I would presume the pound to be all but gone, and replaced with the Chinese Yuan. I consider the Ruble unimportant, as its value would still be low, but as a the main currency of a major player it may be important to list.
Current day puts one Euro at 1.16 USD, but with such a crash i would guess the Euro to maybe be valued at .7-.75 USD, or less if the dollar value is up. The Yuan would probably be valued somewhat lowly compared to the dollar and Euro due to inflation, but at the same time would only be of value within china. somewhere around the same as it is now at 1 Yuan to .16 USD. Yen, assuming it as the Pacific Alliances currency, would probably be high at 1 yen equaling .0013 USD.
"Bullshit is everywhere. There is very little that you will encounter in life that has not been, in some ways, infused with bullshit." ~ Jon Stewart
Minds are like parachutes. They only function when open. ~ Unknown
by Skappola » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:12 pm
The Unites State-Of-Minds wrote:Skappola wrote:Hm, that would be very useful. I could post it in one of my next News updates for everyone to see. Can you post your work? The problem is it depends on a lot of different factors, and we don't really know what the inflation rate for the various countries are.
It depends primarily on how each economy would be compared. Today major currencies would be the United States Dollar, Euro, Japanese Yen and British Pound. I would presume the pound to be all but gone, and replaced with the Chinese Yuan. I consider the Ruble unimportant, as its value would still be low, but as a the main currency of a major player it may be important to list.
Current day puts one Euro at 1.16 USD, but with such a crash i would guess the Euro to maybe be valued at .7-.75 USD, or less if the dollar value is up. The Yuan would probably be valued somewhat lowly compared to the dollar and Euro due to inflation, but at the same time would only be of value within china. somewhere around the same as it is now at 1 Yuan to .16 USD. Yen, assuming it as the Pacific Alliances currency, would probably be high at 1 yen equaling .0013 USD.
by Bolovia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:43 pm
by Skappola » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:52 pm
Bolovia wrote:Country: The Commonwealth of Independent States
Capitol: Mascow
Leader: President Vladimir Zhakaev
Description of Government: The CIS is heavily centralized, under the leadership of the autocratic Zhakaev. The Kremlin is the seat of power acting as the Congress which is a unicameral legislature, split between 3 parties, the Liberals, the Conservatives, and the Ultra-Nationalists which is the largest party and state sponsored party that was created by Zhakaev himself. The Congressmen and Women are elected from each of their districts for a total of 5 years, the president constitutionally and traditionally is allowed only a 5 year term and can be relected up to 2 times however Zhakaev is currently amending the constitution to extend his term. The States in the Commonwealths elect their representatives in state legislatures and their own Governor-Generals. However in the end Zhakaev has the final say on every matter that concerns the CIS no matter how small. The Department of Defense and Department of the Interior are also housed on the Kremlin, this building acts as stated before the central seat of power.
Population: 285,000,000
Foreign Policy: Since the "Winter War" Russia has had non-existent relations with the Scandinavians and chilly relations with the USNA and the EU. The humiliation of ceding St.Petersburg still shocks the nation and harbors growing resentment and hatred from the Commomwealth each day. The CIS-Scandinavian border is the worlds most heavily fortified border and has nearly 1,000,000 soldiers stationed on it from the CIS alone. Relations with the Sunni Brotherhood, Iran, and the South American Federation are kept relatively warm. The CIS intends to patch things up with China as it is viewed as a potential ally to counter the influence of the US.
Civil Freedoms (/10): 6
Political Freedoms (/10):5
Description of Economy: The CIS stills controls a very large manufacturing sector and holds one of the worlds largest oil and natural gas reserves. Under the guidance of Zhakaev the economy nearly tripled since the Winter War and the GDP continues to grow. The economy is guided under the system of State Capitalism as the it still holds values of laissez faire but still produces for the state if needed. Many CIS corporations can be seen throughout the world and are even allowed to operate in the Scandinavia, some of its most prominent and consumer favorites is the coffee chain CoffeeRush. The CIS is still considered amongst the too ten economies of the world.
Description of Military: The CIS holds one of the largest militaries in the world and since the Wintee War has beefed up greatly under Zhakaev. The failure in the Winter War was attributed to the CIS's lack of mobilization and organization to move its massive forces to the front in time. The Military is divided up into 10 branches: the CIS Ground Forces, CIS Air Force, CIS Territorial Defense Force, CIS Navy, CIS Marines, CIS Special Force, CIS Strategic Rocket Force, CIS Republican Guard, CIS Presidential Guard, Commonwealth Guard. All branches are under the leadership of the Commander n'Chief and Department of Defense in the Kremlin. The Active Force: 4,500,000 Reseves: 6,500,000 Paramilitary: 2,000,000 Conscript : 4,000,000
Tanks: 31,000
IFV's: 18,000
Artillery: 15,000
Self Propelled: 9,000
Rocket artillery: 4,500
SAM systems: 6,000
Naval Ships:
Supercarriers: 3
Conventional: 4
Helicopter Carriers: 6
Destroyers: 145
Corvettes: 121
Submarines: 98
Missile Cruisers: 85
Minesweepers: 78
Gunboats: 110
Frigates: 96
Aircraft:3,456 n
Nuclear arsenal: 1,002
Immediate goal of the nation: Continue to expand military, stabilize economy from EU crash and recovery from Winter War, repair relations with PRC, build-up to retake Lost land, continue to centralize CIS.
by Bolovia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:58 pm
Bolovia wrote:Country: The Commonwealth of Independent States
Capitol: Moscow
Leader: President Vladimir Zhakaev
Description of Government: The CIS is heavily centralized, under the leadership of the autocratic Zhakaev. The Kremlin is the seat of power acting as the Congress which is a unicameral legislature, split between 3 parties, the Liberals, the Conservatives, and the Ultra-Nationalists which is the largest party and state sponsored party that was created by Zhakaev himself. The Congressmen and Women are elected from each of their districts for a total of 5 years, the president constitutionally and traditionally is allowed only a 5 year term and can be relected up to 2 times however Zhakaev is currently amending the constitution to extend his term. The States in the Commonwealths elect their representatives in state legislatures and their own Governor-Generals. However in the end Zhakaev has the final say on every matter that concerns the CIS no matter how small. The Department of Defense and Department of the Interior are also housed on the Kremlin, this building acts as stated before the central seat of power.
Population: 235,000,000
Foreign Policy: Since the "Winter War" Russia has had non-existent relations with the Scandinavians and chilly relations with the USNA and the EU. The humiliation of ceding St.Petersburg still shocks the nation and harbors growing resentment and hatred from the Commomwealth each day. The CIS-Scandinavian border is the worlds most heavily fortified border and has nearly 1,000,000 soldiers stationed on it from the CIS alone. Relations with the Sunni Brotherhood, Iran, and the South American Federation are kept relatively warm. The CIS intends to patch things up with China as it is viewed as a potential ally to counter the influence of the US.
Civil Freedoms (/10): 6
Political Freedoms (/10):5
Description of Economy: The CIS stills controls a very large manufacturing sector and holds one of the worlds largest oil and natural gas reserves. Under the guidance of Zhakaev the economy nearly tripled since the Winter War and the GDP continues to grow. The economy is guided under the system of State Capitalism as the it still holds values of laissez faire but still produces for the state if needed. Many CIS corporations can be seen throughout the world and are even allowed to operate in the Scandinavia, some of its most prominent and consumer favorites is the coffee chain CoffeeRush. The CIS is still considered amongst the too ten economies of the world.
Description of Military: The CIS holds one of the largest militaries in the world and since the Wintee War has beefed up greatly under Zhakaev. The failure in the Winter War was attributed to the CIS's lack of mobilization and organization to move its massive forces to the front in time. The Military is divided up into 10 branches: the CIS Ground Forces, CIS Air Force, CIS Territorial Defense Force, CIS Navy, CIS Marines, CIS Special Force, CIS Strategic Rocket Force, CIS Republican Guard, CIS Presidential Guard, Commonwealth Guard. All branches are under the leadership of the Commander n'Chief and Department of Defense in the Kremlin. The Active Force: 2,500,000 Reseves: 1,500,000 Paramilitary: 800,000 Conscription is allowed if in only dire situations.
Tanks: 31,000
IFV's: 18,000
Artillery: 15,000
Self Propelled: 9,000
Rocket artillery: 4,500
SAM systems: 6,000
Naval Ships:
Supercarriers: 3
Conventional: 4
Helicopter Carriers: 6
Destroyers: 35
Corvettes: 21
Submarines: 28
Missile Cruisers: 24
Minesweepers: 18
Gunboats: 30
Frigates: 26
Aircraft:3,456 n
Nuclear arsenal: 1,002
Immediate goal of the nation: Continue to expand military, stabilize economy from EU crash and recovery from Winter War, repair relations with PRC, build-up to retake Lost land, continue to centralize CIS.
by Skappola » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:02 pm
Bolovia wrote:Bolovia wrote:Country: The Commonwealth of Independent States
Capitol: Moscow
Leader: President Vladimir Zhakaev
Description of Government: The CIS is heavily centralized, under the leadership of the autocratic Zhakaev. The Kremlin is the seat of power acting as the Congress which is a unicameral legislature, split between 3 parties, the Liberals, the Conservatives, and the Ultra-Nationalists which is the largest party and state sponsored party that was created by Zhakaev himself. The Congressmen and Women are elected from each of their districts for a total of 5 years, the president constitutionally and traditionally is allowed only a 5 year term and can be relected up to 2 times however Zhakaev is currently amending the constitution to extend his term. The States in the Commonwealths elect their representatives in state legislatures and their own Governor-Generals. However in the end Zhakaev has the final say on every matter that concerns the CIS no matter how small. The Department of Defense and Department of the Interior are also housed on the Kremlin, this building acts as stated before the central seat of power.
Population: 235,000,000
Foreign Policy: Since the "Winter War" Russia has had non-existent relations with the Scandinavians and chilly relations with the USNA and the EU. The humiliation of ceding St.Petersburg still shocks the nation and harbors growing resentment and hatred from the Commomwealth each day. The CIS-Scandinavian border is the worlds most heavily fortified border and has nearly 1,000,000 soldiers stationed on it from the CIS alone. Relations with the Sunni Brotherhood, Iran, and the South American Federation are kept relatively warm. The CIS intends to patch things up with China as it is viewed as a potential ally to counter the influence of the US.
Civil Freedoms (/10): 6
Political Freedoms (/10):5
Description of Economy: The CIS stills controls a very large manufacturing sector and holds one of the worlds largest oil and natural gas reserves. Under the guidance of Zhakaev the economy nearly tripled since the Winter War and the GDP continues to grow. The economy is guided under the system of State Capitalism as the it still holds values of laissez faire but still produces for the state if needed. Many CIS corporations can be seen throughout the world and are even allowed to operate in the Scandinavia, some of its most prominent and consumer favorites is the coffee chain CoffeeRush. The CIS is still considered amongst the too ten economies of the world.
Description of Military: The CIS holds one of the largest militaries in the world and since the Wintee War has beefed up greatly under Zhakaev. The failure in the Winter War was attributed to the CIS's lack of mobilization and organization to move its massive forces to the front in time. The Military is divided up into 10 branches: the CIS Ground Forces, CIS Air Force, CIS Territorial Defense Force, CIS Navy, CIS Marines, CIS Special Force, CIS Strategic Rocket Force, CIS Republican Guard, CIS Presidential Guard, Commonwealth Guard. All branches are under the leadership of the Commander n'Chief and Department of Defense in the Kremlin. The Active Force: 2,500,000 Reseves: 1,500,000 Paramilitary: 800,000 Conscription is allowed if in only dire situations.
Tanks: 31,000
IFV's: 18,000
Artillery: 15,000
Self Propelled: 9,000
Rocket artillery: 4,500
SAM systems: 6,000
Naval Ships:
Supercarriers: 3
Conventional: 4
Helicopter Carriers: 6
Destroyers: 145
Corvettes: 121
Submarines: 98
Missile Cruisers: 85
Minesweepers: 78
Gunboats: 110
Frigates: 96
Aircraft:3,456 n
Nuclear arsenal: 1,002
Immediate goal of the nation: Continue to expand military, stabilize economy from EU crash and recovery from Winter War, repair relations with PRC, build-up to retake Lost land, continue to centralize CIS.
by Skappola » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:04 pm
by The United Federations » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:06 pm
Bolovia wrote:Bolovia wrote:Country: The Commonwealth of Independent States
Capitol: Mascow
Leader: President Vladimir Zhakaev
Description of Government: The CIS is heavily centralized, under the leadership of the autocratic Zhakaev. The Kremlin is the seat of power acting as the Congress which is a unicameral legislature, split between 3 parties, the Liberals, the Conservatives, and the Ultra-Nationalists which is the largest party and state sponsored party that was created by Zhakaev himself. The Congressmen and Women are elected from each of their districts for a total of 5 years, the president constitutionally and traditionally is allowed only a 5 year term and can be relected up to 2 times however Zhakaev is currently amending the constitution to extend his term. The States in the Commonwealths elect their representatives in state legislatures and their own Governor-Generals. However in the end Zhakaev has the final say on every matter that concerns the CIS no matter how small. The Department of Defense and Department of the Interior are also housed on the Kremlin, this building acts as stated before the central seat of power.
Population: 285,000,000
Foreign Policy: Since the "Winter War" Russia has had non-existent relations with the Scandinavians and chilly relations with the USNA and the EU. The humiliation of ceding St.Petersburg still shocks the nation and harbors growing resentment and hatred from the Commomwealth each day. The CIS-Scandinavian border is the worlds most heavily fortified border and has nearly 1,000,000 soldiers stationed on it from the CIS alone. Relations with the Sunni Brotherhood, Iran, and the South American Federation are kept relatively warm. The CIS intends to patch things up with China as it is viewed as a potential ally to counter the influence of the US.
Civil Freedoms (/10): 6
Political Freedoms (/10):5
Description of Economy: The CIS stills controls a very large manufacturing sector and holds one of the worlds largest oil and natural gas reserves. Under the guidance of Zhakaev the economy nearly tripled since the Winter War and the GDP continues to grow. The economy is guided under the system of State Capitalism as the it still holds values of laissez faire but still produces for the state if needed. Many CIS corporations can be seen throughout the world and are even allowed to operate in the Scandinavia, some of its most prominent and consumer favorites is the coffee chain CoffeeRush. The CIS is still considered amongst the too ten economies of the world.
Description of Military: The CIS holds one of the largest militaries in the world and since the Wintee War has beefed up greatly under Zhakaev. The failure in the Winter War was attributed to the CIS's lack of mobilization and organization to move its massive forces to the front in time. The Military is divided up into 10 branches: the CIS Ground Forces, CIS Air Force, CIS Territorial Defense Force, CIS Navy, CIS Marines, CIS Special Force, CIS Strategic Rocket Force, CIS Republican Guard, CIS Presidential Guard, Commonwealth Guard. All branches are under the leadership of the Commander n'Chief and Department of Defense in the Kremlin. The Active Force: 2,500,000 Reseves: 1,500,000 Paramilitary: 800,000 Conscription is allowed if in only dire situations.
Tanks: 31,000
IFV's: 18,000
Artillery: 15,000
Self Propelled: 9,000
Rocket artillery: 4,500
SAM systems: 6,000
Naval Ships:
Supercarriers: 3
Conventional: 4
Helicopter Carriers: 6
Destroyers: 145
Corvettes: 121
Submarines: 98
Missile Cruisers: 85
Minesweepers: 78
Gunboats: 110
Frigates: 96
Aircraft:3,456 n
Nuclear arsenal: 1,002
Immediate goal of the nation: Continue to expand military, stabilize economy from EU crash and recovery from Winter War, repair relations with PRC, build-up to retake Lost land, continue to centralize CIS.
by The United Federations » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:07 pm
Skappola wrote:Skappola wrote:Hmm, 4,800,000 troops. Let me compare this to the other apps.
Looking at China and the Pacific Alliance, I'll accept this. Just note that I might be adding a the occasional debuff to even out the odds between nations that should more or less be equal. Otherwise good app, so Accepted! I'm going to add this to the op now, so I don't forget it later.
by Bolovia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:07 pm
Skappola wrote:Skappola wrote:Hmm, 4,800,000 troops. Let me compare this to the other apps.
Looking at China and the Pacific Alliance, I'll accept this. Just note that I might be adding a the occasional debuff to even out the odds between nations that should more or less be equal. Otherwise good app, so Accepted! I'm going to add this to the op now, so I don't forget it later.
by Skappola » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:09 pm
Bolovia wrote:Skappola wrote:Looking at China and the Pacific Alliance, I'll accept this. Just note that I might be adding a the occasional debuff to even out the odds between nations that should more or less be equal. Otherwise good app, so Accepted! I'm going to add this to the op now, so I don't forget it later.
Thank you, I'll post soon.
by Bolovia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:12 pm
The United Federations wrote:Skappola wrote:Looking at China and the Pacific Alliance, I'll accept this. Just note that I might be adding a the occasional debuff to even out the odds between nations that should more or less be equal. Otherwise good app, so Accepted! I'm going to add this to the op now, so I don't forget it later.
Look at those navy numbers though, how could they logistically support it? ESPECIALLY after the loss of St. Petersburg to the Scandinavians...
by The United Federations » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:15 pm
by Bolovia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:15 pm
Bolovia wrote:Bolovia wrote:Country: The Commonwealth of Independent States
Capitol: Moscow
Leader: President Vladimir Zhakaev
Description of Government: The CIS is heavily centralized, under the leadership of the autocratic Zhakaev. The Kremlin is the seat of power acting as the Congress which is a unicameral legislature, split between 3 parties, the Liberals, the Conservatives, and the Ultra-Nationalists which is the largest party and state sponsored party that was created by Zhakaev himself. The Congressmen and Women are elected from each of their districts for a total of 5 years, the president constitutionally and traditionally is allowed only a 5 year term and can be relected up to 2 times however Zhakaev is currently amending the constitution to extend his term. The States in the Commonwealths elect their representatives in state legislatures and their own Governor-Generals. However in the end Zhakaev has the final say on every matter that concerns the CIS no matter how small. The Department of Defense and Department of the Interior are also housed on the Kremlin, this building acts as stated before the central seat of power.
Population: 235,000,000
Foreign Policy: Since the "Winter War" Russia has had non-existent relations with the Scandinavians and chilly relations with the USNA and the EU. The humiliation of ceding St.Petersburg still shocks the nation and harbors growing resentment and hatred from the Commomwealth each day. The CIS-Scandinavian border is the worlds most heavily fortified border and has nearly 1,000,000 soldiers stationed on it from the CIS alone. Relations with the Sunni Brotherhood, Iran, and the South American Federation are kept relatively warm. The CIS intends to patch things up with China as it is viewed as a potential ally to counter the influence of the US.
Civil Freedoms (/10): 6
Political Freedoms (/10):5
Description of Economy: The CIS stills controls a very large manufacturing sector and holds one of the worlds largest oil and natural gas reserves. Under the guidance of Zhakaev the economy nearly tripled since the Winter War and the GDP continues to grow. The economy is guided under the system of State Capitalism as the it still holds values of laissez faire but still produces for the state if needed. Many CIS corporations can be seen throughout the world and are even allowed to operate in the Scandinavia, some of its most prominent and consumer favorites is the coffee chain CoffeeRush. The CIS is still considered amongst the too ten economies of the world.
Description of Military: The CIS holds one of the largest militaries in the world and since the Wintee War has beefed up greatly under Zhakaev. The failure in the Winter War was attributed to the CIS's lack of mobilization and organization to move its massive forces to the front in time. The Military is divided up into 10 branches: the CIS Ground Forces, CIS Air Force, CIS Territorial Defense Force, CIS Navy, CIS Marines, CIS Special Force, CIS Strategic Rocket Force, CIS Republican Guard, CIS Presidential Guard, Commonwealth Guard. All branches are under the leadership of the Commander n'Chief and Department of Defense in the Kremlin. The Active Force: 2,500,000 Reseves: 1,500,000 Paramilitary: 800,000 Conscription is allowed if in only dire situations.
Tanks: 31,000
IFV's: 18,000
Artillery: 15,000
Self Propelled: 9,000
Rocket artillery: 4,500
SAM systems: 6,000
Naval Ships:
Supercarriers: 3
Conventional: 4
Helicopter Carriers: 6
Destroyers: 35
Corvettes: 21
Submarines: 28
Missile Cruisers: 24
Minesweepers: 18
Gunboats: 30
Frigates: 26
Aircraft:3,456 n
Nuclear arsenal: 1,002
Immediate goal of the nation: Continue to expand military, stabilize economy from EU crash and recovery from Winter War, repair relations with PRC, build-up to retake Lost land, continue to centralize CIS.
Is this more logistically sound?
by Skappola » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:17 pm
by Bolovia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:22 pm
The United Federations wrote:Bolovia wrote:I knew that was going to be conflicting, how much leeway would you say I would have with the navy?
Personally I'd think the majority of the forces are going to be deployed against the Scandinavian borders after all, but personally I'd estimate a war conflicted CIS to maintain slightly less than the current United States does, so somewhere in the ballpark 40-60 destroyers
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