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[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

All these canals sound great, but do countries in 1881 have the technology to build canals that long?

The canal in France was actually built under the reign of Louis XIV. The expansion would surely not need the same degree of engineering as the Panama Canal since it is not cutting through mountains or swaps or anything like that. The only main issue would be keeping a constant water level throughout the entire canal, which Riquet solved when he built the existing one.

[Aldelxane]

All these canals sound great, but do countries in 1881 have the technology to build canals that long?

The canal in France was actually built under the reign of Louis XIV. The expansion would surely not need the same degree of engineering as the Panama Canal since it is not cutting through mountains or swaps or anything like that. The only main issue would be a constant water level throughout the entire canal which Riquet solved when he built the existing one.

Well, that answers that question. XD

[Baja California y Sonora]

There's also another canal idea, one that splits Mexico in half. I don't remember the name but it has a wikipedia page and all :b

Oh yea, that too. I think it is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isthmus_of ... epec_Route

There might be another one though

There is also one that would split Florida too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Florida_Barge_Canal

[Aldelxane]

Looking at river maps, if Bohemia and the NGC could cooperate, it might be possible to connect the Rhine and the Danube, and open up a massive swathe of Central Europe to Atlantic trade.

Edit: Apparently the two rivers were connected IRL in 1992, so it's not that far fetched.
Edit #2: The South German states would also need to be in on the canal-building deal.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

The canal in France was actually built under the reign of Louis XIV. The expansion would surely not need the same degree of engineering as the Panama Canal since it is not cutting through mountains or swaps or anything like that. The only main issue would be a constant water level throughout the entire canal which Riquet solved when he built the existing one.

Well, that answers that question. XD

Actually, it does cut through a system of mountains but it is nothing like cutting through Panama. The canal uses some locks but the engineering of the time can handle the construction of bigger ones.

[Vredlandia]

Edit #2: The South German states would also need to be in on the canal-building deal.

Don't worry, just let me annex them and we'll have a canal in a few years!

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Oh yea, that too. I think it is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isthmus_of ... epec_Route

There might be another one though

There is also one that would split Florida too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Florida_Barge_Canal

Nice. I love these projects, shame they were never completed in RL

Looking at river maps, if Bohemia and the NGC could cooperate, it might be possible to connect the Rhine and the Danube, and open up a massive swathe of Central Europe to Atlantic trade.

Edit: Apparently the two rivers were connected IRL in 1992, so it's not that far fetched.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine–Main–Danube_Canal/
Edit #2: The South German states would also need to be in on the canal-building deal.

That's so interesting. I never knew that canal existed.

[Aldelxane]

Edit #2: The South German states would also need to be in on the canal-building deal.

Don't worry, just let me annex them and we'll have a canal in a few years!

The issue was more that the NGC is supporting and bankrolling Italian nationalists, and Bohemia is fighting Italian nationalist insurgents in the province of Venice. That might not be conducive to a good relationship between the two nations.

[Vredlandia]

The issue was more that the NGC is supporting and bankrolling Italian nationalists, and Bohemia is fighting Italian nationalist insurgents in the province of Venice. That might not be conducive to a good relationship between the two nations.

The NGC does not, its students do. Those in power are more cautious and conservative.

[Aldelxane]

The issue was more that the NGC is supporting and bankrolling Italian nationalists, and Bohemia is fighting Italian nationalist insurgents in the province of Venice. That might not be conducive to a good relationship between the two nations.

The NGC does not, its students do. Those in power are more cautious and conservative.

Are it's students doing this publicly? If so, I might try sending a telegram to the NGC's government. The previous RPer asked for warm relations IC, so the Bohemian government might be able to pressure the NGC to reign in it's students.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

The issue was more that the NGC is supporting and bankrolling Italian nationalists, and Bohemia is fighting Italian nationalist insurgents in the province of Venice. That might not be conducive to a good relationship between the two nations.

The NGC does not, its students do. Those in power are more cautious and conservative.

What is your stance in the New Lorraine Question?

[Aldelxane]

Another interesting canal idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube–Oder_Canal
Edit: For some reason all of these links are broken.

[Vredlandia]

Are it's students doing this publicly? If so, I might try sending a telegram to the NGC's government. The previous RPer asked for warm relations IC, so the Bohemian government might be able to pressure the NGC to reign in it's students.

It's a meeting of the students, no media or politicians attended. I could imagine that some leak the content of the discussion, but all in all it's rather secret. Not because they wouldn't defend what they're doing, but because student fraternities are rather secretive in general.

Edit: Of course the word will spread a bit, at least because most who will want to donate will have to tell their parents about it.

What is your stance in the New Lorraine Question?

I generally didn't read into not-European things for now, because 5 pages is a lot with the post size we have in NI. It's that German-orientated thngy that South America is in dispute over, if I'm not wrong? I'd appreciate if you could fill me in a bit.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Are it's students doing this publicly? If so, I might try sending a telegram to the NGC's government. The previous RPer asked for warm relations IC, so the Bohemian government might be able to pressure the NGC to reign in it's students.

It's a meeting of the students, no media or politicians attended. I could imagine that some leak the content of the discussion, but all in all it's rather secret. Not because they wouldn't defend what they're doing, but because student fraternities are rather secretive in general.

Edit: Of course the word will spread a bit, at least because most who will want to donate will have to tell their parents about it.

I TGed the player RPing Bulgaria and it seems he is interested in participating in the construction of the canal.

What is your stance in the New Lorraine Question?

I generally didn't read into not-European things for now, because 5 pages is a lot with the post size we have in NI. It's that German-orientated thngy that South America is in dispute over, if I'm not wrong? I'd appreciate if you could fill me in a bit.

Yep, that one. It is a territorial dispute between German Argentina and French Brazil over RL Uruguay

[Vredlandia]

Yep, that one. It is a territorial dispute between German Argentina and French Brazil over RL Uruguay

Eh, without reading further into it, I can give you this first answer: With the unification of Germany being a huge topic, it'd be a wrong message to let a culturally German nation down. Nonetheless I could imagine supporting a compromise, especially since it'd be important that South America is balanced.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Is it really that big of a deal? One word changing, It will what? Change a few words in the IC?

What name do you want to change it to?
If TKoG and whoever else got involved with T-L are fine with with it, ok.

I'm opposed tbh. Largely because marrying into the rather prestigious Medici family is much more desirable than some random dynasty that did not actually exist. Keep in mind this dynasty is going to provide my next Queen, and the Dual Kingdom is a rather "ancient" realm in regards to its monarchist traditions relating to family and such.

Just make whatever ICD's last name (or whatever the name he has chosen, maybe it's similar to something I state later) the name of one of the Generals or the Ministers of high importance in the civil government. Surely by 1881, which the amount of republics we have in Europe, democracy has found its way to almost every corner of the continent. I mean my current PM is literally Artur Mas i Gazzara. Artur Mas is the current "president" or whatever of Catalonia and Gazzara is my Sicilian last name. Also if you guys ever noticed, I recycle Kenneth Mackenzie, Earl of Seaforth, all the time as my PM when I am Scotland or Great Britain. Hmm I wonder why. But I'd never imagine making the Mackenzies the ruling House of Scotland or GB, just doesn't make any sense to me.

[Vredlandia]

Also if you guys ever noticed, I recycle Kenneth Mackenzie, Earl of Seaforth, all the time as my PM when I am Scotland or Great Britain.

Boooo! Shame on you!

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

The NGC does not, its students do. Those in power are more cautious and conservative.

Are it's students doing this publicly? If so, I might try sending a telegram to the NGC's government. The previous RPer asked for warm relations IC, so the Bohemian government might be able to pressure the NGC to reign in it's students.

Should the students actions ever go public, the Dual Kingdom will be making plenty of noise alongside our Bohemian friends, considering the majority of our holdings are "Italian" (even tho Sicilian is largely a different culture from Italian due to its actual cultural base and then added in Catalan influence, people will consider it Italian because of its location).

Also incoming like a tone of responses to shit lmfao

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

"I would rather be a beggar and single than a queen and married."

"I know I have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too."

"Though the sex to which I belong is considered weak you will nevertheless find me a rock that bends to no wind."

"I have the heart of a man, not a woman, and I am not afraid of anything."

--Queen Elizabeth I, Butt-kicker Extraordinaire

Everyone knows the Elizabeths are best Queens pls nerf too OP.

But I shall definitely be paying attention the to Scandinavian posts now.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Yep, that one. It is a territorial dispute between German Argentina and French Brazil over RL Uruguay

Eh, without reading further into it, I can give you this first answer: With the unification of Germany being a huge topic, it'd be a wrong message to let a culturally German nation down. Nonetheless I could imagine supporting a compromise, especially since it'd be important that South America is balanced.

I imagined so. Thanks for the clarification!

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Have you recieved permission from Allen to do so? The Medici's are already in the IC and im married to one of them sooo.

Also that still makes no sense for the tri-color, or T-L's IC activity to date considering they're fighting italian nationalism with me.

Just change Medici to the new house, Not very hard, And they are fighting a power that destroyed the temporal power of the pope with you,

A "power" that overthrew the Papacy in the name of Italian Unification. A "power" that is at the very heart of the Italian Unification movement. Also, a quote from T-L's letter to the DK: As we acknowledge the threat that this rebel Kingdom of Rome poses to the established order in the italian peninsula, and the long-standing friendship between our nations, we would like to extend a hand in your direction and aid you in the fight against this foe. One can assume that this "established order" means the status quo, of which the Tuscan-Lombard King does not wish to see change. The Italian Unification movement changes just that. Therefore, one can safely assume the Tuscan-Lombards are fighting Italian Unification, and therefore nationalism.

Tricolour is a no, indeed. IRL, it was the colours of Milan and its city guard, but there's no reason for that to have happened. And even if there was, T-L is an older, monarchic, probably less nationalistic state that has no reason to go pan-Italian anyway.

Sardinia Piedmont was an Older, Monarchic state and Went full pan-Italian, Your logic does not work.

Considering the Sardinians saw the ability to create a much larger and powerful nation they themselves could rule, of which they would be able to move their older, monarchic state to. I mean their actions were largely so they themselves could gain more power. To deny that is just being foolish, I mean power is the driving force behind most actions in human history.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Another interesting canal idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube–Oder_Canal
Edit: For some reason all of these links are broken.

That's a cool canal too. Are you guys building any of these? The Rhine–Main–Danube Canal really caught my attention

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

What name do you want to change it to?
If TKoG and whoever else got involved with T-L are fine with with it, ok.

I'm opposed tbh. Largely because marrying into the rather prestigious Medici family is much more desirable than some random dynasty that did not actually exist. Keep in mind this dynasty is going to provide my next Queen, and the Dual Kingdom is a rather "ancient" realm in regards to its monarchist traditions relating to family and such.

Just make whatever ICD's last name (or whatever the name he has chosen, maybe it's similar to something I state later) the name of one of the Generals or the Ministers of high importance in the civil government. Surely by 1881, which the amount of republics we have in Europe, democracy has found its way to almost every corner of the continent. I mean my current PM is literally Artur Mas i Gazzara. Artur Mas is the current "president" or whatever of Catalonia and Gazzara is my Sicilian last name. Also if you guys ever noticed, I recycle Kenneth Mackenzie, Earl of Seaforth, all the time as my PM when I am Scotland or Great Britain. Hmm I wonder why. But I'd never imagine making the Mackenzies the ruling House of Scotland or GB, just doesn't make any sense to me.

Once again, My surname is Blair, And sure, That's fine.
You're Sicilian?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I'm opposed tbh. Largely because marrying into the rather prestigious Medici family is much more desirable than some random dynasty that did not actually exist. Keep in mind this dynasty is going to provide my next Queen, and the Dual Kingdom is a rather "ancient" realm in regards to its monarchist traditions relating to family and such.

Just make whatever ICD's last name (or whatever the name he has chosen, maybe it's similar to something I state later) the name of one of the Generals or the Ministers of high importance in the civil government. Surely by 1881, which the amount of republics we have in Europe, democracy has found its way to almost every corner of the continent. I mean my current PM is literally Artur Mas i Gazzara. Artur Mas is the current "president" or whatever of Catalonia and Gazzara is my Sicilian last name. Also if you guys ever noticed, I recycle Kenneth Mackenzie, Earl of Seaforth, all the time as my PM when I am Scotland or Great Britain. Hmm I wonder why. But I'd never imagine making the Mackenzies the ruling House of Scotland or GB, just doesn't make any sense to me.

Once again, My surname is Blair, And sure, That's fine.
You're Sicilian?

Yeah, my maternal grandfather's parents come from Sicily. My maternal grandmother's parents come from Bari. Or maybe its Abruzzi. Or maybe its both, I don't remember. But that general area of Italy. I'm actually 50% Italian, mixed in wit ha bunch of Scottish, Irish, English, French, and Native American nonsense from my dad's side. I can ever be considered Canadian, considering my paternal grandfather's father was born in Canada before moving to Massachusetts. But, I digress.

[Altito Asmoro]

Yep, that one. It is a territorial dispute between German Argentina and French Brazil over RL Uruguay

Eh, without reading further into it, I can give you this first answer: With the unification of Germany being a huge topic, it'd be a wrong message to let a culturally German nation down. Nonetheless I could imagine supporting a compromise, especially since it'd be important that South America is balanced.

Is it?

Isn't it supposed to better for a nation to be the leader of its continent?