New Imperialism - AH RP v 2.1 [OOC, Signup]

[Mishmahig]

Who the heck inherited the Scandinavian throne? I see a lot of posts about European delegations in Scandinavia, but I don't see anything about a successor -- an apparent betrothal with a German prince (I think?) and some other things, but....?

I talked with Svelt a lot about this- Princess Christine is going to inherit (they usually call her Christie, I believe). Her mom (also, confusingly, named Kristine/Christine) and everyone (including, at least as far as was written, her) are looking to marry her to the German prince. Svelt and I had talked about her and prince Temur (yes, there's a Mongol prince in Scandinavia if you forgot/didn't know) falling in love (though likely not marrying), but he went awol and that never really materialized.

Hrm.

I'd rather that they fall in love, the dowager Empress forbidding the marriage in favor of the German prince, Princess Christine leading a palace coup to depose the dowager Empress and allow her coronation on her own terms.

Then she realizes that a marriage with the Mongol prince is not what her nation needs, so she either bids him farewell or keeps him on as a not-so-secret consort until she can find a suitable husband. Then she puts her hair up in a bun, dons sensible but scandalous trousers, hops on a horse, and leads the nation to war.

[Altito Asmoro]

Oh you can hire the CC to do it btw. They have an agency with men in Colombia.

Oh nice. That works much better considering that Pinkerton was an American company and, well, the US does not exist in this AH. Should I send you a letter or can I just write that I hire your company's services?

Who founded Pinkerton?

Allan Pinkerton

I mean at which country? We have no USA.

You need to give Colombia a reason to allow Brazilian men to enter Colombia.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Why would T-L use the Italian tri-color and not something more logical?

His App said it supported Nationalism, of which i can only suppose he mean't Italian, But in all honestly, all Tuscany flags involved the Medici's and I'm changing the dynasty

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Oh nice. That works much better considering that Pinkerton was an American company and, well, the US does not exist in this AH. Should I send you a letter or can I just write that I hire your company's services?



Allan Pinkerton

I mean at which country? We have no USA.

You need to give Colombia a reason to allow Brazilian men to enter Colombia.

Brazilian men into Colombia? O.o

[Altito Asmoro]

I mean at which country? We have no USA.

You need to give Colombia a reason to allow Brazilian men to enter Colombia.

Brazilian men into Colombia? O.o

CC is going to be hired as rebels, but it's in Colombia.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Brazilian men into Colombia? O.o

CC is going to be hired as rebels, but it's in Colombia.

Yes. I will hire CC as well. They will dispatch from Colombia to Brazil

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Why would T-L use the Italian tri-color and not something more logical?

His App said it supported Nationalism, of which i can only suppose he mean't Italian, But in all honestly, all Tuscany flags involved the Medici's and I'm changing the dynasty

Have you recieved permission from Allen to do so? The Medici's are already in the IC and im married to one of them sooo.

Also that still makes no sense for the tri-color, or T-L's IC activity to date considering they're fighting italian nationalism with me.

[Alleniana]

His App said it supported Nationalism, of which i can only suppose he mean't Italian, But in all honestly, all Tuscany flags involved the Medici's and I'm changing the dynasty

Have you recieved permission from Allen to do so? The Medici's are already in the IC and im married to one of them sooo.

Also that still makes no sense for the tri-color, or T-L's IC activity to date considering they're fighting italian nationalism with me.

Yeah, that sort of stuff shouldn't really happen. In any case, considering T-L's monarchy is either going to have to change its tune really quickly or get booted out, Five Days of Milan style.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Have you recieved permission from Allen to do so? The Medici's are already in the IC and im married to one of them sooo.

Also that still makes no sense for the tri-color, or T-L's IC activity to date considering they're fighting italian nationalism with me.

Yeah, that sort of stuff shouldn't really happen. In any case, considering T-L's monarchy is either going to have to change its tune really quickly or get booted out, Five Days of Milan style.

I'm not opposed to that happening, but it needs to happen ICly and not in the application.

[Alleniana]

Yeah, that sort of stuff shouldn't really happen. In any case, considering T-L's monarchy is either going to have to change its tune really quickly or get booted out, Five Days of Milan style.

I'm not opposed to that happening, but it needs to happen ICly and not in the application.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Since T-L is, at the very least, about to go through a period of intense reform, it would be very easy to change the flag ICly, which would solve a lot of OOC continuity problems along with it.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I'm not opposed to that happening, but it needs to happen ICly and not in the application.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Since T-L is, at the very least, about to go through a period of intense reform, it would be very easy to change the flag ICly, which would solve a lot of OOC continuity problems along with it.

The flag isn't really an issue, but it shouldn't be just the tri-color is my point.

Main issue is the dynasty and their stance on italian nationalism.

[Alleniana]

Yeah, that's what I meant. Since T-L is, at the very least, about to go through a period of intense reform, it would be very easy to change the flag ICly, which would solve a lot of OOC continuity problems along with it.

The flag isn't really an issue, but it shouldn't be just the tri-color is my point.

Main issue is the dynasty and their stance on italian nationalism.

Tricolour is a no, indeed. IRL, it was the colours of Milan and its city guard, but there's no reason for that to have happened. And even if there was, T-L is an older, monarchic, probably less nationalistic state that has no reason to go pan-Italian anyway.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

The flag isn't really an issue, but it shouldn't be just the tri-color is my point.

Main issue is the dynasty and their stance on italian nationalism.

Tricolour is a no, indeed. IRL, it was the colours of Milan and its city guard, but there's no reason for that to have happened. And even if there was, T-L is an older, monarchic, probably less nationalistic state that has no reason to go pan-Italian anyway.

Exactly, only thing that would alter that was a popular uprising, which I assume is incoming.

But again, that should happen ICly.

[Alleniana]

Tricolour is a no, indeed. IRL, it was the colours of Milan and its city guard, but there's no reason for that to have happened. And even if there was, T-L is an older, monarchic, probably less nationalistic state that has no reason to go pan-Italian anyway.

Exactly, only thing that would alter that was a popular uprising, which I assume is incoming.

But again, that should happen ICly.

Yes, yes, that would definitely be ICly.
ICD seems to have left though, so this conversation has probably dropped off.

So, on another note, can everyone TG me map changes for 1882? So far, the only ones I know of are:
Piedmont and Switzerland have separated
DK did something in Senegal (the map in your app, right?)
Portugal has claimed Sakhalin
Alaska has claimed land (need map though)
Ethiopia has expanded one province (because NPCs can have fun too, right? right? RIGHT?)

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Yes, map is in the new app and also at the bottom of my last IC post.

Basically it's all of modern day Senegal, Gambia, and two provinces below them.

[Alleniana]

Yes, map is in the new app and also at the bottom of my last IC post.

Basically it's all of modern day Senegal, Gambia, and two provinces below them.

Ok, looks fine.
Also, a reminder for myself; fix the random white pixel in Portuguese Mozambique.

[Kryskov]

Oh nice. That works much better considering that Pinkerton was an American company and, well, the US does not exist in this AH. Should I send you a letter or can I just write that I hire your company's services?

Yes, please don't use Pinkerton bc he was solely used to track down the criminals of the nations he worked for, not conduct raids.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Oh nice. That works much better considering that Pinkerton was an American company and, well, the US does not exist in this AH. Should I send you a letter or can I just write that I hire your company's services?

Yes, please don't use Pinkerton bc he was solely used to track down the criminals of the nations he worked for, not conduct raids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Pink ... er_the_war

"In 1872, the Spanish Government hired Pinkerton to help suppress a revolution in Cuba which intended to end slavery and give citizens the right to vote."

Just putting that out there. Pinkerton was also heavily used by capitalists to get rid of strikes. However, I won't use them

[Senkaku]

I talked with Svelt a lot about this- Princess Christine is going to inherit (they usually call her Christie, I believe). Her mom (also, confusingly, named Kristine/Christine) and everyone (including, at least as far as was written, her) are looking to marry her to the German prince. Svelt and I had talked about her and prince Temur (yes, there's a Mongol prince in Scandinavia if you forgot/didn't know) falling in love (though likely not marrying), but he went awol and that never really materialized.

Hrm.

I'd rather that they fall in love, the dowager Empress forbidding the marriage in favor of the German prince, Princess Christine leading a palace coup to depose the dowager Empress and allow her coronation on her own terms.

Then she realizes that a marriage with the Mongol prince is not what her nation needs, so she either bids him farewell or keeps him on as a not-so-secret consort until she can find a suitable husband. Then she puts her hair up in a bun, dons sensible but scandalous trousers, hops on a horse, and leads the nation to war.

Lmao that'd be hilarious

You just made my day Mish

[Finland SSR]

So what happened in the last seven hours or so? Anything important?

[Kryskov]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Pink ... er_the_war

"In 1872, the Spanish Government hired Pinkerton to help suppress a revolution in Cuba which intended to end slavery and give citizens the right to vote."

Just putting that out there. Pinkerton was also heavily used by capitalists to get rid of strikes. However, I won't use them

Ok, and you are mentioning things I have already read.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Pink ... er_the_war

"In 1872, the Spanish Government hired Pinkerton to help suppress a revolution in Cuba which intended to end slavery and give citizens the right to vote."

Just putting that out there. Pinkerton was also heavily used by capitalists to get rid of strikes. However, I won't use them

Ok, and you are mentioning things I have already read.

In that case you should agree with me that Pinkerton did not only track criminals. Well, they did. They track criminals from the perspective of those who hired Pinkerton

[Kryskov]

In that case you should agree with me that Pinkerton did not only track criminals. Well, they did. They track criminals from the perspective of those who hired Pinkerton

I don't agree, and it is quite reasonless to assume that because Pinkerton put down strikers and rebels that he'd launch offensive raids. But, it doesn't matter, because he's an old man by this point in time, and you're not using him, so let's end this discussion.

[Alleniana]

Hrm.

I'd rather that they fall in love, the dowager Empress forbidding the marriage in favor of the German prince, Princess Christine leading a palace coup to depose the dowager Empress and allow her coronation on her own terms.

Then she realizes that a marriage with the Mongol prince is not what her nation needs, so she either bids him farewell or keeps him on as a not-so-secret consort until she can find a suitable husband. Then she puts her hair up in a bun, dons sensible but scandalous trousers, hops on a horse, and leads the nation to war.

Lmao that'd be hilarious

You just made my day Mish

I just read this, and cannot tell for the life of me where it's from (though Mulan is a primary suspect)

So what happened in the last seven hours or so? Anything important?

Not particularly.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

The flag isn't really an issue, but it shouldn't be just the tri-color is my point.

Main issue is the dynasty and their stance on italian nationalism.

Tricolour is a no, indeed. IRL, it was the colours of Milan and its city guard, but there's no reason for that to have happened. And even if there was, T-L is an older, monarchic, probably less nationalistic state that has no reason to go pan-Italian anyway.

Sardinia Piedmont was an Older, Monarchic state and Went full pan-Italian, Your logic does not work.