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The Emerald Dragon
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:26 pm

So, should I reserve the Ryukyus, Corsica-Sardinia combo etc.

Allen?

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Name: The Dual Kingdom of Catalonia and Naples (El Dual Regne de Catalunya i Nàpols)
Symbols:
-Royal Banner of the Dual Kingdom
-Coat of Arms
-Aragonia
Power: Secondary
Claims: http://i.imgur.com/UKpyVtm.png

Government Structure: Federal Constitutional Monarchy. The homeland is divided into four regions: Catalonia (Catalunya), Naples (Nàpols), Romagna (Romanya), and Sicily and the Islands (Sicília i les Illes). Each region has its own regional legislature, along with representation in the Federal City of Barcelona (Ciutat Federal de Barcelona). The Royal Assembly (Assemblea Royal), based out of the Federal City of Barcelona (Also known as C.F. Barcelona, or just Barcelona) consists of two chambers . The upper chamber is the Senate (Senat) and the lower chamber is the Chamber of Deputies (Cambra de Diputats). The Prime Minster (Primer Ministre) is elected from the Senate and is the Head of Government. The colonies are directly administered by the Crown and the Royal Assembly, with appointed Viceroys (Virreyes) running the colonies.
Ideology/Policy: Capitalism, Colonialism, Democracy, Federalism, Free Trade, Imperialism, Monarchism
Leaders:
-HoS: King Ferdinand IV de Valencia
-HoG: Prime Minister Francesc Pi i Margall
Capital City: Barcelona

Population: 26,482,400
-Homeland: 24,198,400
--Catalonia: 9,500,000
--Naples: 7,187,000
--Romagna: 3,480,000
--Sicily and the Isles: 4,031,400
---Sicily: 2,927,900
---Sardinia: 682,000
---Corsica: 272,600
---Malta: 149,800
-Imperial: 2,284,000
--Tunis and Garamante: 1,709,000
---Tunis: 1,400,000
---Garamante: 309,000
--African Holdings: 75,000
--Yemen Holdings: 500,000 (Rough guess, found no data)
Primary Ethnic Group: Catalan
Minority Ethnic Groups: Sicilian, Umbrian, Lombard, Maltese, Castilian, Portuguese, Basque Arabic, African
Description of Ethnicity: The Catalan speaking peoples of Eastern Iberia and Southern France. They are very similar to the historical Spaniards in culture and ethnicity, but speak Catalan instead of Spanish.
Language:
-Official Language of the State: Catalan
-Recognized Regional Languages: Italian
Religion:
-State: Roman Catholicism
-Majority: Roman Catholicism
-Minority: Protestant Christians, Islam, African Tribal, Judaism, Orthodoxy

Foreign Relations: The Dual Kingdom strives to maintain cordial nations with all of the nations she borders. She is allied to her longtime friend Portugal via the Iberian Defense Pact. and maintains fair relations with the French and other Italian minors. Cordial relations are also maintained with the British and the Hungarians while the Dutch are viewed with limited hostility. The Papal State is a protectorate of the Dual Kingdom. Due to this relationship, the monarch maintains the (largely outdated) title of Defender of the Faith.
Military Information: The Catalan military is fairly good at its job. It is well equipped and well trained and has gathered plenty of experience through the conquest and occupation of Tunis and Garamante. It is very effective at putting down armed rebellions, but sees little experience against foreign armies. The Catalan navy is the true pride and joy of her military. It is well equipped, sees plenty of experience, and if anything is overly funded. The Royal Naval defends Catalan trade throughout the Mediterranean and her global interests, namely her various colonial possessions.
Army Size: Standing: 250,000; Reserves: 91,500
-Royal Catalan Army (Exèrcit Real de Català)
--Standing: 60,000
--Reserves: 30,000
-Royal Army of Naples (Exèrcit Reial de Nàpols)
--Standing: 35,000
--Reserves: 18,000
-Royal Army of Romagna (Exèrcit Reial de Romanya)
--Standing: 25,000
--Reserves: 15,000
-Royal Army of the Isles (Exèrcit Reial de les Illes)
--Standing: 15,000
--reserves: 5,000
-Colonial Army of Tunis and Gramante (Exèrcit Colonial de Tunísia i Gramante)
--Standing: 80,000
--Reserves: 15,000 (Entirely Arab, also reinforced from abroad)
-Colonial Army of Africa (Exèrcit colonial d'Àfrica)
--Standing: 5,000
--Reserves: 1,500 (entirely African, also reinforced from abroad)
-Colonial Army of Yemen (Exèrcit Colonial del Iemen)
--Standing: 30,000
--Reserves: 7,000 (Entirely Arab, also reinforced from abroad)
Navy Size:
-Royal Navy (Reial Marina)
--8 Ironclad Battleships
--16 Ironclad Cruisers
--8 Ironclad Monitors
--50 Frigates
--25 Man o' Wars
--40 Sloops
--20 Torpedo Boats
--3 Submarines

Economic Policy: The government is a huge proponent of free trade. The government keeps tariffs at a minimal due to the Dual Kingdom's low industrial output. This allows manufactured goods, machinery, and foreign investment to more easily flow into the country. There is a minimal government sponsored safety net for developing industries in the country, but this is kept to a minimal and the government usually seeks foreign investment to help bolster failing businesses and only intervenes if that strategy fails.
Economic Situation: The Kingdom's economy is still largely based upon wine, agriculture, and fish. Industrialization and factories have only hit the major population centers, moderately at that. A lot of the DK's revenue comes from tariffs collects at her many valuable trade ports.
Infrastructure: Railways connect all major cities and population centers in Catalonia and important cities in Naples and Sicily, and also connects to Rome. Paved roads exist throughout most of the realm, connecting all important cities. A railway was founded in 1861 in the city of Tunis to connect the colony's coastline. Discussions are taking place about a possible rail line in Yemen.
Imports & Exports:
-Imports: Manufactured Goods, Machinery, Firearms and Weaponry, Locomotives, :uxury Metals
-Exports: Wine, Agricultural Products, Fish, Cloth and Textiles, Iron, Copper, Salt, Sugar,
Currency: Catalan Pesseta (Pe)

History: The early history of the Crown of Aragon would parallel its journey through the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. The Kingdom found its origin during the reconquista fought by Catholic Europeans against the Islamic Moorish conquerors of the Iberian peninsula. The peoples of Iberia were, and remain to an extent, separated into regional identities, that of the Portuguese, the Galicians, the Andalucians, Catalans, Castilians, Valencians, Basques... The Kingdoms that would claim Iberia as their own; Castile, Aragon, Navarre, Portugal; had created for themselves domains, but their disparate peoples allowed for shifting borders. Kingdoms merged, crowns changed hands, rulers gained unreasonable amounts of minor titles. At the dawn of the Renaissance, Aragon had established itself as an independent entity, culturally distinguished from its neighbour to the West. As the newly formed union of Castile and Portugal looked West across the Atlantic, Aragon set its sights East, to the fractured peoples inhabiting the Mediterranean coast. Awarded the Kingdom of Sardinia and Corsica in 1297 by the Pope, Aragon extended its control over all of the territory over the next 100 years. Inheriting the Kingdom of Sicily in 1381, Aragon also established a foothold in Greece, which were lost but a few short years later, resulting in a massive failure for the Crown. Fighting in the Italian Wars, King Alfonso V was able to gain possession of the Kingdom of Naples in 1442.

Naples was fully integrated into the realm in 1584, following a war with Umbrio, which was also incorporated into the realm. This found the start of the Dual Kingdom of Catalonia and Naples. Years of instability soon followed until order was fully restored in 1621 under King Alfonso VII. In 1691 the Catalan conquest of Tunis began, and the Catalans quickly conquered the important trade city. Influence would only continue to grow in North Africa as they expanded southward into Tunisia and Garamante, annexing both regions entirely by 1715. Inspired by the conquests in recent years, the DK sailed East in order to capture the Sultanate of Yemen, fully incorporating it into the country by 1737. War with the Papal States broke out in 1756, which resulted in the absorption of Romanga In 1791 the Dual Kingdom began the process of federalizing, reorganizing the government and establishing four regions, each with their own legislature. The DK aided in the war against Napoleon, at first suffering great losses but eventually regained control over all of their territories. Following the end of the war in 1815 the Dual Kingdom made an agreement with Pope Pius VII. The Papal State would become a protectorate of the DK, and the monarch would be granted the title of Defender of the Faith. The DK was also forgiven for the conquest of Papal lands decades ago, and the Pope officially dropped his claims to Anacona and Romagna. After a long recovery from the Napoleonic Wars, the Dual Kingdom reemerged as a dominant power on the Mediterranean and her navy was entirely rebuilt. Her trade dominance was also reestablished.

Misc: Claims on my map are not accurate, see RP's map for accurate claims.
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Bolovia
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Postby Bolovia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:27 pm

Would it still be possible to create an Ottoman state?

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:28 pm

Epraria wrote:So am I accepted now?

Wasn't your app unfinished?...

@Neo, yeah, if you could reduce African colonies, that'd be good; Somalia and Madagascar aren't really decent places for colonisation at this time, so even moving them would be good to somewhere like west Africa. You can take that one province of Algeria you didn't have, since Italy has changed, and you could take more of southeast Asia to compensate for any African colonies you lose, because frankly, at this stage, it's way too partitioned to do much.
The Emerald Dragon wrote:So, should I reserve the Ryukyus, Corsica-Sardinia combo etc.

Allen?

Ryukyus would be cool, I'd go with them. Corsica Sardinia is Aragonese, BTW.
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Alleniana wrote:@Jon, are you alright? :p
From your app, "45,234,100 + 2,330,600 + 759,600 + 163,600 + 1,213,600 + 647,900 + 912,500 + 5,560,800 + 2,153,400 + 565,500 = 19,541,600"

Anyway, you definitely need to shrink claims.

How big was your claim in Arabia again?

Kuwait, Qatar/Bahrain, part of UAE.

Considering all the dirty yuropeens, that should be fine. Preferably have it as a united vassal/tributary thingy though.
Bolovia wrote:Would it still be possible to create an Ottoman state?

Probably not; the vast majority of their land is taken. Southern turkey is open, though...?

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Postby Bolovia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:30 pm

I was thinking the rest of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Kuwait possibly?

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Postby Alleniana » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:30 pm

So, who has finished (finished, definitively, as in not a draft, no missing fields) their app, but has not been added to the roster? IIRC it's Francia, Megiko, Alaska, and... someone else?
Bolovia wrote:I was thinking the rest of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Kuwait possibly?

No sorry, much of that is Crusader state. If you were interested in an Arabian state though, that could work.

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Postby Epraria » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:30 pm

I'm essentially finished look at the app from last page. I also want some points in what needs improving.
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Postby Valentir » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:32 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Alleniana wrote:

This is the one I'm thinking of

If that's the one, then I've edited my app to fix those issues

Honhonhon!

Back away from my New Holland Frenchman!

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Postby Bolovia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:32 pm

Alleniana wrote:So, who has finished (finished, definitively, as in not a draft, no missing fields) their app, but has not been added to the roster? IIRC it's Francia, Megiko, Alaska, and... someone else?
Bolovia wrote:I was thinking the rest of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Kuwait possibly?

No sorry, much of that is Crusader state. If you were interested in an Arabian state though, that could work.

Kingdom of Arabia huh, I was hoping something a little more modernized. Whats left in Europe?

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Postby Alleniana » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:34 pm

Epraria wrote:I'm essentially finished look at the app from last page. I also want some points in what needs improving.

More info on fields such as but not limited to ideology/policy, religion, economic policy, currency. I'll check your pop now.
Bolovia wrote:
Alleniana wrote:So, who has finished (finished, definitively, as in not a draft, no missing fields) their app, but has not been added to the roster? IIRC it's Francia, Megiko, Alaska, and... someone else?

No sorry, much of that is Crusader state. If you were interested in an Arabian state though, that could work.

Kingdom of Arabia huh, I was hoping something a little more modernized. Whats left in Europe?

Romania minus Transylvania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania, FYROM, Bulgaria, though Albania and Macedonia may have border chunks taken. Oh, and maybe Thrace.
edit: sorry not Macedonia, that's in the KoS
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:35 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Epraria wrote:So am I accepted now?

Wasn't your app unfinished?...

@Neo, yeah, if you could reduce African colonies, that'd be good; Somalia and Madagascar aren't really decent places for colonisation at this time, so even moving them would be good to somewhere like west Africa. You can take that one province of Algeria you didn't have, since Italy has changed, and you could take more of southeast Asia to compensate for any African colonies you lose, because frankly, at this stage, it's way too partitioned to do much.

Is this good? I got rid of Frankish Somalia and Madagascar in exchange for the rest of Indochina.
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Honhonhon!

Back away from my New Holland Frenchman!

*Murmurs* God damn it, Netherlands, we're supposed to be on the same side... :P

But can we split it, or are you dead-set on having all of New Zealand? I'm okay if you are, just want to see if I can have some of Oceania.
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Postby Bolovia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:37 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Epraria wrote:I'm essentially finished look at the app from last page. I also want some points in what needs improving.

More info on fields such as but not limited to ideology/policy, religion, economic policy, currency. I'll check your pop now.
Bolovia wrote:Kingdom of Arabia huh, I was hoping something a little more modernized. Whats left in Europe?

Romania minus Transylvania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania, FYROM, Bulgaria, though Albania and Macedonia may have border chunks taken. Oh, and maybe Thrace.
edit: sorry not Macedonia, that's in the KoS

What about Switzerland?

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Postby Valentir » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:37 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Wasn't your app unfinished?...

@Neo, yeah, if you could reduce African colonies, that'd be good; Somalia and Madagascar aren't really decent places for colonisation at this time, so even moving them would be good to somewhere like west Africa. You can take that one province of Algeria you didn't have, since Italy has changed, and you could take more of southeast Asia to compensate for any African colonies you lose, because frankly, at this stage, it's way too partitioned to do much.

Is this good? I got rid of Frankish Somalia and Madagascar in exchange for the rest of Indochina.
Valentir wrote:Honhonhon!

Back away from my New Holland Frenchman!

*Murmurs* God damn it, Netherlands, we're supposed to be on the same side... :P

But can we split it, or are you dead-set on having all of New Zealand? I'm okay if you are, just want to see if I can have some of Oceania.

I would prefer it all.

I can give you pancakes though.

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Postby Kryskov » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:37 pm

CSA wants to be friends, or at least conduct trade deals, with New France, Mexico, and Britain. Anyone want stuff from CSA?

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Postby Valentir » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:38 pm

Kryskov wrote:CSA wants to be friends, or at least conduct trade deals, with New France, Mexico, and Britain. Anyone want stuff from CSA?

The Dutch want to buy your cotton.

Sell us cotton.

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Postby Alleniana » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:44 pm

dammit, why is it New Holland? Zealand is Dutch as well! :P This was a magnificent opportunity and it was wasted!
Bolovia wrote:
Alleniana wrote:More info on fields such as but not limited to ideology/policy, religion, economic policy, currency. I'll check your pop now.

Romania minus Transylvania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania, FYROM, Bulgaria, though Albania and Macedonia may have border chunks taken. Oh, and maybe Thrace.
edit: sorry not Macedonia, that's in the KoS

What about Switzerland?

I think someone apped for it.
Northern Italy is open, though, I just realised.

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Postby Epraria » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:45 pm

Kryskov wrote:CSA wants to be friends, or at least conduct trade deals, with New France, Mexico, and Britain. Anyone want stuff from CSA?

Mexico wants to buy.

All I think I solved some of those things.
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I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:45 pm

Valentir wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Is this good? I got rid of Frankish Somalia and Madagascar in exchange for the rest of Indochina.

*Murmurs* God damn it, Netherlands, we're supposed to be on the same side... :P

But can we split it, or are you dead-set on having all of New Zealand? I'm okay if you are, just want to see if I can have some of Oceania.

I would prefer it all.

I can give you pancakes though.

Alright, I'll get rid of New Zealand.

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Postby Greater Mobile » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:48 pm

Alleniana wrote:So, who has finished (finished, definitively, as in not a draft, no missing fields) their app, but has not been added to the roster? IIRC it's Francia, Megiko, Alaska, and... someone else?
Bolovia wrote:I was thinking the rest of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Kuwait possibly?

No sorry, much of that is Crusader state. If you were interested in an Arabian state though, that could work.


I've done some more editing to make it more in-depth. Is it still lacking somwhere?
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Postby Bolovia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:50 pm

Alleniana wrote:dammit, why is it New Holland? Zealand is Dutch as well! :P This was a magnificent opportunity and it was wasted!
Bolovia wrote:What about Switzerland?

I think someone apped for it.
Northern Italy is open, though, I just realised.

Like all of Sardinia or how much we talking?

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:55 pm

Bolovia wrote:
Alleniana wrote:dammit, why is it New Holland? Zealand is Dutch as well! :P This was a magnificent opportunity and it was wasted!

I think someone apped for it.
Northern Italy is open, though, I just realised.

Like all of Sardinia or how much we talking?


Like all of Northern Italy (Sardinia is an island not in Northern Italy bc island)

Here are my Italian claims: http://i.imgur.com/UKpyVtm.png

I am the only one who claims land in Italy.
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:57 pm

Bolovia wrote:
Alleniana wrote:dammit, why is it New Holland? Zealand is Dutch as well! :P This was a magnificent opportunity and it was wasted!

I think someone apped for it.
Northern Italy is open, though, I just realised.

Like all of Sardinia or how much we talking?

http://i.imgur.com/UKpyVtm.png
All of Italy not claimed here plus a bit
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Valentir wrote:I would prefer it all.

I can give you pancakes though.

Alright, I'll get rid of New Zealand.

New map of Francia (Will remove south-eastern Australia if it's claimed/makes Francia too big)

Australia is British, sorry. Suggestions; make your colonies in sub-Saharan Africa extend less inlands (no non-coastal provinces), remove your largest province in Gabon, remove Australia, add on New Caledonia, Norfolk Island and Vanuatu, and add the remaining province of Laos.

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Postby Bolovia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:57 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Bolovia wrote:Like all of Sardinia or how much we talking?


Like all of Northern Italy (Sardinia is an island not in Northern Italy bc island)

Here are my Italian claims: http://i.imgur.com/UKpyVtm.png

I am the only one who claims land in Italy.

Sorry I meant Sardinia- Piedemont, but hell I'll take whats left of Italy.

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Postby The New Lowlands » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:59 pm

Valentir wrote:
Kryskov wrote:CSA wants to be friends, or at least conduct trade deals, with New France, Mexico, and Britain. Anyone want stuff from CSA?

The Dutch want to buy your cotton.

Sell us cotton.

y u no embargo CSA to sell dutch wool

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:59 pm

Bolovia wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Like all of Northern Italy (Sardinia is an island not in Northern Italy bc island)

Here are my Italian claims: http://i.imgur.com/UKpyVtm.png

I am the only one who claims land in Italy.

Sorry I meant Sardinia- Piedemont, but hell I'll take whats left of Italy.


Personally I suggest the Kingdom of Lombardy.

Also can we agree to leave Roma independent of either of us for the Papal State?

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