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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:14 am

The Starlight wrote:Just realized:
How many siege weapons do you think it would be reasonable for the elves to have?


Well, we never have Elves using siege weapons in Tolkien's works, though their use can be implied. It would seem sensible that they have a few dozen in a place like Lorien that's under siege, and perhaps another dozen or two scattered at fortresses and new outposts like Imladris and Hollin.
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A few questions. Is this still open? If so, could I play as an Uruk Captain that betrays Mordor for whatever reason?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:45 am

SaintB wrote:A few questions. Is this still open? If so, could I play as an Uruk Captain that betrays Mordor for whatever reason?


Sure, that's possible. Depends on the circumstance, but possible.
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Postby SaintB » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:12 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
SaintB wrote:A few questions. Is this still open? If so, could I play as an Uruk Captain that betrays Mordor for whatever reason?


Sure, that's possible. Depends on the circumstance, but possible.

I was thinking a warchief gets wise to his plans to launch a coup and exercises a preemptive strike to kill all his followers and has my character branded and buried alive. A couple of his surviving followers rescue him and rather than face the wrath the warchief a second time he decides to try and strike a deal with the enemies of Mordor where he shares everything he knows (a considerable amount being a captain). In exchange he wants help killing that warchief and promises he'll lead whatever remains of that warband away from the front lines of the war. For a start of reasons to betray Sauron.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:21 am

SaintB wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Sure, that's possible. Depends on the circumstance, but possible.

I was thinking a warchief gets wise to his plans to launch a coup and exercises a preemptive strike to kill all his followers and has my character branded and buried alive. A couple of his surviving followers rescue him and rather than face the wrath the warchief a second time he decides to try and strike a deal with the enemies of Mordor where he shares everything he knows (a considerable amount being a captain). In exchange he wants help killing that warchief and promises he'll lead whatever remains of that warband away from the front lines of the war. For a start of reasons to betray Sauron.


Ahhhh, I see, so you're thinking Shadow of Mordor. I don't have objections to that game, but I don't exactly think of it as canon either; to my mind Sauron wouldn't allow such destructive and fractious behavior in his army at the higher levels, due to a need to have experienced commanders and tacticians not regularly dropping dead. Perhaps a different source of his dissention?
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Postby SaintB » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:04 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
SaintB wrote:I was thinking a warchief gets wise to his plans to launch a coup and exercises a preemptive strike to kill all his followers and has my character branded and buried alive. A couple of his surviving followers rescue him and rather than face the wrath the warchief a second time he decides to try and strike a deal with the enemies of Mordor where he shares everything he knows (a considerable amount being a captain). In exchange he wants help killing that warchief and promises he'll lead whatever remains of that warband away from the front lines of the war. For a start of reasons to betray Sauron.


Ahhhh, I see, so you're thinking Shadow of Mordor. I don't have objections to that game, but I don't exactly think of it as canon either; to my mind Sauron wouldn't allow such destructive and fractious behavior in his army at the higher levels, due to a need to have experienced commanders and tacticians not regularly dropping dead. Perhaps a different source of his dissention?

You see it in books like The Silmarillion and in The Two Towers (and the movie) but I don't think it happens on Shadow of Mordor levels myself and its your world I'll see if I can come up with something. Maybe harsh punishment for failure makes him want revenge.

I did further research, and it does seem highly unlikely that with Sauron large and in charge that such Orcish power plays would be commonplace while busy subjugating the various free peoples. But with him out of the picture it pretty much is Shadow of Mordor levels of infighting.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:34 am

SaintB wrote:
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Ahhhh, I see, so you're thinking Shadow of Mordor. I don't have objections to that game, but I don't exactly think of it as canon either; to my mind Sauron wouldn't allow such destructive and fractious behavior in his army at the higher levels, due to a need to have experienced commanders and tacticians not regularly dropping dead. Perhaps a different source of his dissention?

You see it in books like The Silmarillion and in The Two Towers (and the movie) but I don't think it happens on Shadow of Mordor levels myself and its your world I'll see if I can come up with something. Maybe harsh punishment for failure makes him want revenge.

I did further research, and it does seem highly unlikely that with Sauron large and in charge that such Orcish power plays would be commonplace while busy subjugating the various free peoples. But with him out of the picture it pretty much is Shadow of Mordor levels of infighting.


Yerp, I mean I can see casual fighting and power plays, but things like murder would be punished if discovered due to the need to maintain a cohesive command structure even at the squad level. A harsh punishment for, say, looting, or perhaps fighting with another unit over spoils, if you want to keep that backstory.
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Postby The Starlight » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:36 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Starlight wrote:Just realized:
How many siege weapons do you think it would be reasonable for the elves to have?


Well, we never have Elves using siege weapons in Tolkien's works, though their use can be implied. It would seem sensible that they have a few dozen in a place like Lorien that's under siege, and perhaps another dozen or two scattered at fortresses and new outposts like Imladris and Hollin.

Ok then.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:41 pm

I'll try and have a Galadriel post up today, tomorrow or Friday, which will be the start of a rather interesting plotline.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:59 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:I'll try and have a Galadriel post up today, tomorrow or Friday, which will be the start of a rather interesting plotline.


I do like your idea for her arc.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:59 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:I'll try and have a Galadriel post up today, tomorrow or Friday, which will be the start of a rather interesting plotline.


I do like your idea for her arc.


Yeah. It's pretty interesting, I just hope I can pull it off well enough to do the concept justice.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:57 pm

Out of curiosity, is this pass north of Rivendell the High Pass?
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Postby Asyir » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:02 pm

Sorry for the inactivity as of late. Christmas is a pretty hectic time. Afterwards, expect me to focus more on rping.

That being said, I may be able to get a post up before Friday.
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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:18 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Out of curiosity, is this pass north of Rivendell the High Pass?


Oh no, its just a pass, not really that accessable and with alot of death end ways attached to it. The high pass is by far the only proper pass for anyone, that's ofcourse not what Gróin is looking for. He wants to play it safe and this pass is like one of the many unknown passes.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:24 pm

The Seleucids wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Out of curiosity, is this pass north of Rivendell the High Pass?


Oh no, its just a pass, not really that accessable and with alot of death end ways attached to it. The high pass is by far the only proper pass for anyone, that's ofcourse not what Gróin is looking for. He wants to play it safe and this pass is like one of the many unknown passes.


So... exactly like the High Pass? The High Pass has to be walked single-file in several sections, iirc. It's a really poor route to use for transit, but basically the only route, hence why the Beornings and Rivendell made keeping it clear a priority before the Hobbit.
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:28 pm

So my post is mostly complete, just need a section on the army of Erebor. (This is the post I reserved, by the way: Here )
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Postby Ancian » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:41 pm

By the way, my dwarf is the dwarf yelling orders in the battle of five armies. Remember that dwarf with the different helmet on the front line? Behind Dain , the guy that yelled orders? That's me. ;) I looked him up, and he doesn't have a name or background so I made one.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:17 pm

So everyone is just yelling at the Council?

Excellent.
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Postby Ancian » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:25 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:So everyone is just yelling at the Council?

Excellent.

Well I yelled.....
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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:23 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Seleucids wrote:
Oh no, its just a pass, not really that accessable and with alot of death end ways attached to it. The high pass is by far the only proper pass for anyone, that's ofcourse not what Gróin is looking for. He wants to play it safe and this pass is like one of the many unknown passes.


So... exactly like the High Pass? The High Pass has to be walked single-file in several sections, iirc. It's a really poor route to use for transit, but basically the only route, hence why the Beornings and Rivendell made keeping it clear a priority before the Hobbit.


It was never mentioned as the only route, only the most known route. Gróin is searching for, and found, a different path.

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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:26 am

Also, you all remember how the sons of Elrond helped the fellowship early on? I plan something simular by getting the Blacklocks involved. Probably two or three of their "royal" family members will start to follow up on the fellowship and in time of need they can aid us.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:58 am

The Seleucids wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
So... exactly like the High Pass? The High Pass has to be walked single-file in several sections, iirc. It's a really poor route to use for transit, but basically the only route, hence why the Beornings and Rivendell made keeping it clear a priority before the Hobbit.


It was never mentioned as the only route, only the most known route. Gróin is searching for, and found, a different path.

Although I want the Fellowship to cross the Misty Mountains, for that is the most difficult natural obstacle in our path save for the Shadow Mountains, I do not think there is another path through. Neither Gandalf, a wizard with 300 lifetimes under his belt, nor Gimli, a dwarf of Erebor, knew of another path, for when the Gap of Rohan was occupied by the Enemy, they chose Caradhras. When Caradhras the Evil turned on the Fellowship, Gandalf saw that there was no other way save for Moria. Had there been another known way, Gandalf would not have led the Fellowship through Shadow and Flames.
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Postby Osnil » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:46 am

Hey Starlight, I have three questions. One: Could Afrren be half-elf, half-Numerean?
Two: Would it be possible for Galadriel to have another child? I was thinking that Galadriel could be Afrren's Grandmother.
Three: If the second question doesn't work, would anyone have brought any attendants to the White Council?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:22 am

Ah, Starlight, I meant for the lineage of the Dark Elf to be something suspected by the Eldar, but not known to any save the House itself.
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