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G-Tech Corporation
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:41 pm

Rizoshia wrote:
Faction App-
Realm name:Gondorian Remnants
Leader name:Marshall Tanith
Race: Man
History:
The 7th and 8th Battalions of the Gondorian Military; as far as they knew the men were all that remained of a once mighty Military after the fall of the Kingdom that once stood as a bastion of hope again'st the darkness of the East. The Men of the West were now foreigners in their own lands; hostile forces in a once welcoming land. A period of strife and unrest led to the eventual splitting of the Camp. The 8th Battalion went it's own way and was never heard from again by the now alone 7th. After committing suicide under the pressure the Battallion's command fell to Tanith of Pelargir, a young Gondorian Junior Officer who declared himself the 'Marshal' of the Battalion.

The men now have orders to march East towards the outskirts of Minas Tirith, although not close enough to be spotted as a besieging force. They seek to recruit what remains of Man and, if possible, retake their home.

The 7th Battalion of the Military is currently camped out
Alignment: Lawful Good
Goals:Gather the forces of Man, reclaim the White City, and cast out the Shadow.
Territory:(if any)None, but the Battalion is marching towards the mountains near Minas Tirith by land from the West.
Military Strength(in numbers)One Battallion numbering 4,000 men in total. Broken down:
-3,500 Gondorian Infantrymen(Spears/Swords etc)
-1,000 Gondorian Archers
-250 Gondorian Cavalry

How active will you be?: No life, on every day. ;~;
Did you read everything?:Yussir.
RP sample:N/A, this is my first major one...sorry.
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Character App-
Character name: 'Marshal' Tanith of Pelargir
Race: Man
Appearance:Marshall of the Remnants
History:
Tanith was never a very commanding person. He had enough natural leadership to maintain a position as a Junior Officer in his Battalion, that much was true, but he had never fancied himself a full fledged Commander. After the fall of the White City his and one other Battalion's worth of men managed to make their escape only to split due to an issue in a chain of command that didn't exist anymore. The other Battalion split and, unable to cope with the pressure, his Commander committed suicide. The Battalion fell into chaos as some wanted to follow the others to wherever they wanted to go and others simply wished to leave altogether.

Something snapped within Tanith. He wasn't the highest ranking Officer present but he was the only one that could take charge...he just knew it. The young man rallied the men with a fiery speech, claiming that the White City "Belonged to them by birthright". The people of the realm were still on the side of their rightful protectors...at least he hoped so. It's not like they were enjoying the whole Evil Empire bit. He knew it was his duty to reclaim Gondor and, when it was all said and done, it would need a King. Or an Emperor.

Alignment Lawful Good for now.
Goals:Justice prevails, yada yada yada, reclaim the White City and lolno Aragorn ascending to the throne.
Other: Yo yo, for the Empire yo.
How active will you be?: No life, on every day. ;~;
Did you read everything?: Yussir.
RP sample:N/A
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Bit high; that's larger than the actual forces that defended Minas Tirith, about a fifth of Gondor's total wartime forces.

Might also contradict Starlights canon, though, not sure.
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Postby The Intergalactic Russian Empire » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:55 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Rizoshia wrote:
Faction App-
Realm name:Gondorian Remnants
Leader name:Marshall Tanith
Race: Man
History:
The 7th and 8th Battalions of the Gondorian Military; as far as they knew the men were all that remained of a once mighty Military after the fall of the Kingdom that once stood as a bastion of hope again'st the darkness of the East. The Men of the West were now foreigners in their own lands; hostile forces in a once welcoming land. A period of strife and unrest led to the eventual splitting of the Camp. The 8th Battalion went it's own way and was never heard from again by the now alone 7th. After committing suicide under the pressure the Battallion's command fell to Tanith of Pelargir, a young Gondorian Junior Officer who declared himself the 'Marshal' of the Battalion.

The men now have orders to march East towards the outskirts of Minas Tirith, although not close enough to be spotted as a besieging force. They seek to recruit what remains of Man and, if possible, retake their home.

The 7th Battalion of the Military is currently camped out
Alignment: Lawful Good
Goals:Gather the forces of Man, reclaim the White City, and cast out the Shadow.
Territory:(if any)None, but the Battalion is marching towards the mountains near Minas Tirith by land from the West.
Military Strength(in numbers)One Battallion numbering 4,000 men in total. Broken down:
-3,500 Gondorian Infantrymen(Spears/Swords etc)
-1,000 Gondorian Archers
-250 Gondorian Cavalry

How active will you be?: No life, on every day. ;~;
Did you read everything?:Yussir.
RP sample:N/A, this is my first major one...sorry.
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Character App-
Character name: 'Marshal' Tanith of Pelargir
Race: Man
Appearance:Marshall of the Remnants
History:
Tanith was never a very commanding person. He had enough natural leadership to maintain a position as a Junior Officer in his Battalion, that much was true, but he had never fancied himself a full fledged Commander. After the fall of the White City his and one other Battalion's worth of men managed to make their escape only to split due to an issue in a chain of command that didn't exist anymore. The other Battalion split and, unable to cope with the pressure, his Commander committed suicide. The Battalion fell into chaos as some wanted to follow the others to wherever they wanted to go and others simply wished to leave altogether.

Something snapped within Tanith. He wasn't the highest ranking Officer present but he was the only one that could take charge...he just knew it. The young man rallied the men with a fiery speech, claiming that the White City "Belonged to them by birthright". The people of the realm were still on the side of their rightful protectors...at least he hoped so. It's not like they were enjoying the whole Evil Empire bit. He knew it was his duty to reclaim Gondor and, when it was all said and done, it would need a King. Or an Emperor.

Alignment Lawful Good for now.
Goals:Justice prevails, yada yada yada, reclaim the White City and lolno Aragorn ascending to the throne.
Other: Yo yo, for the Empire yo.
How active will you be?: No life, on every day. ;~;
Did you read everything?: Yussir.
RP sample:N/A
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Bit high; that's larger than the actual forces that defended Minas Tirith, about a fifth of Gondor's total wartime forces.

Might also contradict Starlights canon, though, not sure.

Also, there are already two other Gondorian Remnants.
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Postby Asyir » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:36 pm

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:17 am

Shaggai wrote:Just read Liech's latest post in the IC. Seriously? That reference?

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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Kumbhalgarh » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:24 am

I reserve saruman the black!
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Postby Osnil » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:26 am

Drogo Proudmead's last post-longest post I've ever done.

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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:35 am

Kumbhalgarh wrote:I reserve saruman the black!


Saruman the black? He did a reversed michael jackson?

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Postby Delsola » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:34 am

Kumbhalgarh wrote:I reserve saruman the black!


Well, this is awkward.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:41 am

Delsola wrote:
Kumbhalgarh wrote:I reserve saruman the black!


Well, this is awkward.


Behold your new master! All shall love him, and despair :P
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Postby Rizoshia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:12 pm

Rizoshia wrote:
Faction App-
Realm name:Gondorian Remnants
Leader name:Marshall Tanith
Race: Man
History:
The 7th and 8th Company of the Gondorian Military; as far as they knew the men were all that remained of a once mighty Military after the fall of the Kingdom that once stood as a bastion of hope again'st the darkness of the East. The Men of the West were now foreigners in their own lands; hostile forces in a once welcoming land. A period of strife and unrest led to the eventual splitting of the Camp. The 8th Company went it's own way and was never heard from again by the now alone 7th. After committing suicide under the pressure the Company's command fell to Tanith of Pelargir, a young Gondorian Junior Officer who declared himself the 'Marshal' of the Battalion.

The men now have orders to march East towards the outskirts of Minas Tirith, although not close enough to be spotted as a besieging force. They seek to recruit what remains of Man and, if possible, retake their home.

The 7th Company of the Military is currently camped out
Alignment: Lawful Good
Goals:Gather the forces of Man, reclaim the White City, and cast out the Shadow.
Territory:(if any)None, but the Battalion is marching towards the mountains near Minas Tirith by land from the West.
Military Strength(in numbers)One Company numbering 500 men in total. Broken down:
-300 Gondorian Infantrymen(Spears/Swords etc)
-150 Gondorian Archers
-50 Gondorian Cavalry

How active will you be?: No life, on every day. ;~;
Did you read everything?:Yussir.
RP sample:N/A, this is my first major one...sorry.
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Character App-
Character name: 'Marshal' Tanith of Pelargir
Race: Man
Appearance:Marshall of the Remnants
History:
Tanith was never a very commanding person. He had enough natural leadership to maintain a position as a Junior Officer in his Battalion, that much was true, but he had never fancied himself a full fledged Commander. After the fall of the White City his and one other Battalion's worth of men managed to make their escape only to split due to an issue in a chain of command that didn't exist anymore. The other Battalion split and, unable to cope with the pressure, his Commander committed suicide. The Battalion fell into chaos as some wanted to follow the others to wherever they wanted to go and others simply wished to leave altogether.

Something snapped within Tanith. He wasn't the highest ranking Officer present but he was the only one that could take charge...he just knew it. The young man rallied the men with a fiery speech, claiming that the White City "Belonged to them by birthright". The people of the realm were still on the side of their rightful protectors...at least he hoped so. It's not like they were enjoying the whole Evil Empire bit. He knew it was his duty to reclaim Gondor and, when it was all said and done, it would need a King. Or an Emperor.

Alignment Lawful Good for now.
Goals:Justice prevails, yada yada yada, reclaim the White City and lolno Aragorn ascending to the throne.
Other: Yo yo, for the Empire yo.
How active will you be?: No life, on every day. ;~;
Did you read everything?: Yussir.
RP sample:N/A
3018- Do not remove, this is for finding apps

Reduced the number of troops by a large factor.
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G-Tech Corporation
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:19 pm

Rizoshia wrote:
Rizoshia wrote:
Faction App-
Realm name:Gondorian Remnants
Leader name:Marshall Tanith
Race: Man
History:
The 7th and 8th Company of the Gondorian Military; as far as they knew the men were all that remained of a once mighty Military after the fall of the Kingdom that once stood as a bastion of hope again'st the darkness of the East. The Men of the West were now foreigners in their own lands; hostile forces in a once welcoming land. A period of strife and unrest led to the eventual splitting of the Camp. The 8th Company went it's own way and was never heard from again by the now alone 7th. After committing suicide under the pressure the Company's command fell to Tanith of Pelargir, a young Gondorian Junior Officer who declared himself the 'Marshal' of the Battalion.

The men now have orders to march East towards the outskirts of Minas Tirith, although not close enough to be spotted as a besieging force. They seek to recruit what remains of Man and, if possible, retake their home.

The 7th Company of the Military is currently camped out
Alignment: Lawful Good
Goals:Gather the forces of Man, reclaim the White City, and cast out the Shadow.
Territory:(if any)None, but the Battalion is marching towards the mountains near Minas Tirith by land from the West.
Military Strength(in numbers)One Company numbering 500 men in total. Broken down:
-300 Gondorian Infantrymen(Spears/Swords etc)
-150 Gondorian Archers
-50 Gondorian Cavalry

How active will you be?: No life, on every day. ;~;
Did you read everything?:Yussir.
RP sample:N/A, this is my first major one...sorry.
3018- Do not remove, this is for finding apps





Character App-
Character name: 'Marshal' Tanith of Pelargir
Race: Man
Appearance:Marshall of the Remnants
History:
Tanith was never a very commanding person. He had enough natural leadership to maintain a position as a Junior Officer in his Battalion, that much was true, but he had never fancied himself a full fledged Commander. After the fall of the White City his and one other Battalion's worth of men managed to make their escape only to split due to an issue in a chain of command that didn't exist anymore. The other Battalion split and, unable to cope with the pressure, his Commander committed suicide. The Battalion fell into chaos as some wanted to follow the others to wherever they wanted to go and others simply wished to leave altogether.

Something snapped within Tanith. He wasn't the highest ranking Officer present but he was the only one that could take charge...he just knew it. The young man rallied the men with a fiery speech, claiming that the White City "Belonged to them by birthright". The people of the realm were still on the side of their rightful protectors...at least he hoped so. It's not like they were enjoying the whole Evil Empire bit. He knew it was his duty to reclaim Gondor and, when it was all said and done, it would need a King. Or an Emperor.

Alignment Lawful Good for now.
Goals:Justice prevails, yada yada yada, reclaim the White City and lolno Aragorn ascending to the throne.
Other: Yo yo, for the Empire yo.
How active will you be?: No life, on every day. ;~;
Did you read everything?: Yussir.
RP sample:N/A
3018- Do not remove, this is for finding apps

Reduced the number of troops by a large factor.


Looks reasonable. Accepted.

Might want to link up with the other Remnants if you're serious about taking Minas Anor; not to denigrate your hopes, but your soldiers would probably quite literally merely splat against the garrison there ;)
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Postby The Starlight » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:02 pm

Delsola wrote:
Kumbhalgarh wrote:I reserve saruman the black!


Well, this is awkward.

I'm going to have to give this one to Delsola, as he has a whole arc planned for Saruman, I believe.
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And yes, Rizoshia, those numbers are better, so as G-tech already said: accepted.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:31 pm

Hmm, anyone I need to respond to aside from Lorien?
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Postby Rizoshia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:58 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Rizoshia wrote:Reduced the number of troops by a large factor.


Looks reasonable. Accepted.

Might want to link up with the other Remnants if you're serious about taking Minas Anor; not to denigrate your hopes, but your soldiers would probably quite literally merely splat against the garrison there ;)

Oh yeah, I know. Were mostly going to try and gather up any recruits/survivors and generally be a menace for now.
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Postby Elerian » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:11 pm

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Character name: Varangi Gratis

Race: Human

Appearance:
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History: Born the fourth son of the previous Chieftain, Varangi held little hope of being much more than a warrior in the Clan. However, while he was still a young boy, Varangi was captured in a raid by a rival clan. Rather than kill him outright, the rival clan gave him as a ward to a local family. After several years within that clan, Varangi learned the art of warfare. Before long he was one of the most skilled fighters within the clan, though he was restless and in an act of lunacy challenged the local Chieftain to a duel. The chieftain soundly beat Varangi and because he favored Varangi, he simply banished him from his lands. Varangi survived and honed his skills in the Northern Marshes, and when he thought himself ready, returned to his birthplace. Finding his eldest brother as Chieftain, Varangi challenged his brother to a duel for the clan. In an astonishing victory, Varangi killed his much older brother and took the clan for himself.

Alignment Neutral

Goals: Unite the clans

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Postby The Starlight » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:14 pm

Elerian wrote:Character App-

Character name: Varangi Gratis

Race: Human

Appearance:

History: Born the fourth son of the previous Chieftain, Varangi held little hope of being much more than a warrior in the Clan. However, while he was still a young boy, Varangi was captured in a raid by a rival clan. Rather than kill him outright, the rival clan gave him as a ward to a local family. After several years within that clan, Varangi learned the art of warfare. Before long he was one of the most skilled fighters within the clan, though he was restless and in an act of lunacy challenged the local Chieftain to a duel. The chieftain soundly beat Varangi and because he favored Varangi, he simply banished him from his lands. Varangi survived and honed his skills in the Northern Marshes, and when he thought himself ready, returned to his birthplace. Finding his eldest brother as Chieftain, Varangi challenged his brother to a duel for the clan. In an astonishing victory, Varangi killed his much older brother and took the clan for himself.

Alignment Neutral

Goals: Unite the clans

3018- Do not remove, this is for finding apps

Just thought I'd drop an app for my Tribal dude.

Accepted.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:33 pm

Hmm, Elerian, how many clans are there? Not opposed to the idea, but the Dead Marshes aren't exactly a place where a thousand people could flourish, let alone be unknown to the outside world.
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Postby Elerian » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:08 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hmm, Elerian, how many clans are there? Not opposed to the idea, but the Dead Marshes aren't exactly a place where a thousand people could flourish, let alone be unknown to the outside world.


I believe I said that Gratis was the largest of the clans but there's probably another 4-5 spread out in the Marshes. With each clan being between around 50-100 members. Though I'd probably assume they primarily keep to themselves.

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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:09 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hmm, Elerian, how many clans are there? Not opposed to the idea, but the Dead Marshes aren't exactly a place where a thousand people could flourish, let alone be unknown to the outside world.


Just wait for it, Huu is on his way!

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:18 pm

I'll be getting a post up tomorrow.
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The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

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Postby Delsola » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:28 pm

I've almost finished everything but I want peoples' opinions, who would be the main orchestrator of Saruman's banishment? The Mouth of Sauron became Keeper of Orthanc, so he stood to gain a lot if Saruman was expelled from the tower since the Mouth needed a new base of operations closer to the new fronts. On the other hand, the Witch-King is a more active general and may be more threatened by Saruman since he doesn't share the same personal relationship as Sauron and the Mouth, so he may have seen his priviliged position as Sauron's main military figurehead threatened. I'm thinking the Mouth has a personality more inclined to such an act, plus it makes more sense from a rival standpoint.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:33 pm

Delsola wrote:I've almost finished everything but I want peoples' opinions, who would be the main orchestrator of Saruman's banishment? The Mouth of Sauron became Keeper of Orthanc, so he stood to gain a lot if Saruman was expelled from the tower since the Mouth needed a new base of operations closer to the new fronts. On the other hand, the Witch-King is a more active general and may be more threatened by Saruman since he doesn't share the same personal relationship as Sauron and the Mouth, so he may have seen his priviliged position as Sauron's main military figurehead threatened. I'm thinking the Mouth has a personality more inclined to such an act, plus it makes more sense from a rival standpoint.

I'm not inclined to believe the Mouth himself personally had anything to do with Saruman's banishment. In the books he merely remarks that Orthanc will fall into the hands of someone more loyal than Saruman, or something along those lines - and book readers and fans believe he may have been referring to himself.

Regardless, I think some rivalry between the Mouth and Saruman would be fun, haha!
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The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:59 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Delsola wrote:I've almost finished everything but I want peoples' opinions, who would be the main orchestrator of Saruman's banishment? The Mouth of Sauron became Keeper of Orthanc, so he stood to gain a lot if Saruman was expelled from the tower since the Mouth needed a new base of operations closer to the new fronts. On the other hand, the Witch-King is a more active general and may be more threatened by Saruman since he doesn't share the same personal relationship as Sauron and the Mouth, so he may have seen his priviliged position as Sauron's main military figurehead threatened. I'm thinking the Mouth has a personality more inclined to such an act, plus it makes more sense from a rival standpoint.

I'm not inclined to believe the Mouth himself personally had anything to do with Saruman's banishment. In the books he merely remarks that Orthanc will fall into the hands of someone more loyal than Saruman, or something along those lines - and book readers and fans believe he may have been referring to himself.

Regardless, I think some rivalry between the Mouth and Saruman would be fun, haha!


I doubt there be much rivalry, Saruman is alot stronger then the Mouth in pretty much all aspects except maybe for kissing the ass of Sauron :P

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Postby Delsola » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:08 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Delsola wrote:I've almost finished everything but I want peoples' opinions, who would be the main orchestrator of Saruman's banishment? The Mouth of Sauron became Keeper of Orthanc, so he stood to gain a lot if Saruman was expelled from the tower since the Mouth needed a new base of operations closer to the new fronts. On the other hand, the Witch-King is a more active general and may be more threatened by Saruman since he doesn't share the same personal relationship as Sauron and the Mouth, so he may have seen his priviliged position as Sauron's main military figurehead threatened. I'm thinking the Mouth has a personality more inclined to such an act, plus it makes more sense from a rival standpoint.

I'm not inclined to believe the Mouth himself personally had anything to do with Saruman's banishment. In the books he merely remarks that Orthanc will fall into the hands of someone more loyal than Saruman, or something along those lines - and book readers and fans believe he may have been referring to himself.

Regardless, I think some rivalry between the Mouth and Saruman would be fun, haha!


That line is why I think the Mouth would want Saruman disposed of, whereas the Witch-King seems a-political

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Liecthenbourg wrote:I'm not inclined to believe the Mouth himself personally had anything to do with Saruman's banishment. In the books he merely remarks that Orthanc will fall into the hands of someone more loyal than Saruman, or something along those lines - and book readers and fans believe he may have been referring to himself.

Regardless, I think some rivalry between the Mouth and Saruman would be fun, haha!


I doubt there be much rivalry, Saruman is alot stronger then the Mouth in pretty much all aspects except maybe for kissing the ass of Sauron :P


Except Saruman has been made a nobody by the Mouth. Kissing Sauron's ass might end up being the only thing that really matters.

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Postby Rizoshia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:17 pm

Best intro I could think of, hopefully we will attract some attention as we march further into Orcfuck land and stir up a ruckus.
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