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Postby Alleniana » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:50 pm

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Nation Name: New Israel (may change when I figure out the intricacies of Yiddish and Hebrew and Aramaic and stuff)
Capital City: New Jerusalem
Claimed Territory: Dunno yet
Population: Depends on territory; hoping for about the 1 million mark
National Flag: Golden stylised menorah centred on square white background (if the pope violates the rule of tincture, so do we)

Head of State: Governor David Goldie
Head of Government: Chancellor Abe Da Silva
Government Type: Constitutional unicameral parliamentary republic
National Ideologies: Mercantilism, democracy, "Zionism", plutocracy, freedom, unity, centralism, pacifism, pragmatism
History: Basically, back in the day, when we had pogroms and crusades and all that, the Hamburg Jewish Company, a trade organisation dedicated to furthering the profits of its dirty shekel-usurers, noticed that a new world had been discovered and noticed by all the European powers. It, wanting to get into the action, found partners in Frankfurt, Brussels and other cities, and scraped up the capital to send an expedition off to the new world to look at the possibility of getting profit. They found that it was much further away than they thought, though, and much more to be developed than to be traded with, and so, for a time, the urge to go west died down. This began the European Jewry's interest in the Americas though, and it wasn't long before other similar companies were looking into it. Eventually, an expedition was sent off to <x location> where a merchant colony was established, seasonally harvesting cash crops and trading with natives, eventually becoming a permanent settlement that a stroke of diplomatic luck got the Pope to recognise. It grew larger and larger, farms springing up and the Jewish inhabitants of the entire eastern hemisphere eventually getting wind of it. Slowly, immigration increased, and the companies that had invested into it soon found themselves with the settlement as its main enterprise. They mostly merged into the New Jerusalem Corporation at long last, a name that came from a trend going around with the city referred to as "the new Jerusalem" as opposed to its older, more mundane name of "East Sea City". The corporation managed it for a time until it finally had occasion to declare itself a separate entity, first by moving its base of operations to the new city and then seeking recognition from the powers of its sovereignty over the land. Papal gladness to be rid of the non-Christian minorities of Europe sealed it, and from then on, it grew, a proper city-state forming, filled with immigrants from across Europe and its periphery, a centre of banking, culture, New World development and more.
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Postby Mesrane » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:53 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Sorry, brain fart. :(

Just as I thought, Europe terribly gobbled . . . . the only options which appeal to me being a united Ireland (meh) and a German Baltic merchant republic, which might be interesting . . . nah. Reserve me the rest of Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq and Turkmenistan in Greater Persia.

Free kabobs.

I increased my Georgia claims south here

http://i.imgur.com/bAFbyZp.png

Bastard! :p
Alrighty OP, then tack Tajikstan and Uzbekistan onto my original Persia claim.
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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:54 pm

Mesrane wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I increased my Georgia claims south here

http://i.imgur.com/bAFbyZp.png

Bastard! :p
Alrighty OP, then tack Tajikstan and Uzbekistan onto my original Persia claim.

I'm not sure Inesea thought that through...

Now he has two powers that want to carve him up.
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:00 pm

Estva wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Bastard! :p
Alrighty OP, then tack Tajikstan and Uzbekistan onto my original Persia claim.

I'm not sure Inesea thought that through...

Now he has two powers that want to carve him up.

I was going to have two or more no matter what. Now I am stronkier.
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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:02 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Estva wrote:I'm not sure Inesea thought that through...

Now he has two powers that want to carve him up.

I was going to have two or more no matter what. Now I am stronkier.

True, but I wasn't that motivted to attack before because I knew the Persians wouldn't care much about it.

Now, the Persians will desperately want their land back, any Ottoman faction will want to expand, and I can gobble everything north of Armenia.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:07 pm

Estva wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I was going to have two or more no matter what. Now I am stronkier.

True, but I wasn't that motivted to attack before because I knew the Persians wouldn't care much about it.

Now, the Persians will desperately want their land back, any Ottoman faction will want to expand, and I can gobble everything north of Armenia.


Implying the Mughals don't ally him. Or the Swedes don't invade Russia. Or the Poles.

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Postby Bujahla » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:08 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Estva wrote:True, but I wasn't that motivted to attack before because I knew the Persians wouldn't care much about it.

Now, the Persians will desperately want their land back, any Ottoman faction will want to expand, and I can gobble everything north of Armenia.


Implying the Mughals don't ally him. Or the Swedes don't invade Russia. Or the Poles.


Russia should be bigger...
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:09 pm

Bujahla wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Implying the Mughals don't ally him. Or the Swedes don't invade Russia. Or the Poles.


Russia should be bigger...


Ey Russia doesn't wanna be big.

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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:09 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Estva wrote:True, but I wasn't that motivted to attack before because I knew the Persians wouldn't care much about it.

Now, the Persians will desperately want their land back, any Ottoman faction will want to expand, and I can gobble everything north of Armenia.


Implying the Mughals don't ally him. Or the Swedes don't invade Russia. Or the Poles.

Why would the Mughals? They have nothing to gain but dessert.

The Swedes and Poles are not powerful enough as of yet to launch an invasion of that kind of proportion, considering I am one of the most populous states with huge tracts of land.
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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:10 pm

Bujahla wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Implying the Mughals don't ally him. Or the Swedes don't invade Russia. Or the Poles.


Russia should be bigger...

Most of the land that isn't taken by me, at this point in time, was rather useless and sparsely populated by colonists.

I'll just say that is what is happening right now.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:10 pm

Estva wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Implying the Mughals don't ally him. Or the Swedes don't invade Russia. Or the Poles.

Why would the Mughals? They have nothing to gain but dessert.

The Swedes and Poles are not powerful enough as of yet to launch an invasion of that kind of proportion, considering I am one of the most populous states with huge tracts of land.


My main concern in Afghanistan and Persia is the supply of trade goods. Other than that, the Khan-Emperor cares little for the region.
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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:11 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Estva wrote:Why would the Mughals? They have nothing to gain but dessert.

The Swedes and Poles are not powerful enough as of yet to launch an invasion of that kind of proportion, considering I am one of the most populous states with huge tracts of land.


My main concern in Afghanistan and Persia is the supply of trade goods. Other than that, the Khan-Emperor cares little for the region.

Well, I am sure they can provide such goods.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:13 pm

Estva wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Implying the Mughals don't ally him. Or the Swedes don't invade Russia. Or the Poles.

Why would the Mughals? They have nothing to gain but dessert.

The Swedes and Poles are not powerful enough as of yet to launch an invasion of that kind of proportion, considering I am one of the most populous states with huge tracts of land.


You underestimate the power of allies and a second front.

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Postby Kryskov » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:14 pm

Shit I accidentally took a 5 hour nap.

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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:15 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Estva wrote:Why would the Mughals? They have nothing to gain but dessert.

The Swedes and Poles are not powerful enough as of yet to launch an invasion of that kind of proportion, considering I am one of the most populous states with huge tracts of land.


You underestimate the power of allies and a second front.

There wouldn't be a second front though....it would be one front, the West.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:17 pm

Estva wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Implying the Mughals don't ally him. Or the Swedes don't invade Russia. Or the Poles.

Why would the Mughals? They have nothing to gain but dessert.

The Swedes and Poles are not powerful enough as of yet to launch an invasion of that kind of proportion, considering I am one of the most populous states with huge tracts of land.

If you are referencing Iran, I own the densest area peoplewise.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:19 pm

Estva wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
You underestimate the power of allies and a second front.

There wouldn't be a second front though....it would be one front, the West.


I'm talking about if they decide to invade you while you are at what with whatever that Caucus/Crimean nation is. That would essentially open up a second front against you, and you'd be fighting two wars instead of one small one.

Plus, I'm sure you still have large Russian minorities in plenty of places who would not totally mind creating a Russian state instead of a Mongolian one. If they were to rebel should you lose any stability while fighting two wars, or the Poles/Swedes paint themselves as the liberator of the Russians and you as the persecutor of Russians, you would surely have another issue.

The only point I am trying to make is keep in mind your own weaknesses while pointing out those of others.

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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:22 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Estva wrote:There wouldn't be a second front though....it would be one front, the West.


I'm talking about if they decide to invade you while you are at what with whatever that Caucus/Crimean nation is. That would essentially open up a second front against you, and you'd be fighting two wars instead of one small one.

Plus, I'm sure you still have large Russian minorities in plenty of places who would not totally mind creating a Russian state instead of a Mongolian one. If they were to rebel should you lose any stability while fighting two wars, or the Poles/Swedes paint themselves as the liberator of the Russians and you as the persecutor of Russians, you would surely have another issue.

The only point I am trying to make is keep in mind your own weaknesses while pointing out those of others.

I know I have weaknesses, I am just saying that Georgia is in a very precarious position.
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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:22 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Estva wrote:Why would the Mughals? They have nothing to gain but dessert.

The Swedes and Poles are not powerful enough as of yet to launch an invasion of that kind of proportion, considering I am one of the most populous states with huge tracts of land.

If you are referencing Iran, I own the densest area peoplewise.

I am talking about if the Mughals invaded Eastern Persia.
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Postby New Abrahammia » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:23 pm

Why didn't my app on page 12 get approved yet? Or did it? Someone please telegram me because I don't get my position in this forum.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:24 pm

Estva wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:If you are referencing Iran, I own the densest area peoplewise.

I am talking about if the Mughals invaded Eastern Persia.


Sure, I could chew up Persia and take some of their nice trade route regions away, especially in Afghanistan. But I like having stable borders, and unless the Persians get screwy with trade tariffs and artificially inflated prices, a war is far more likely to cost more than it would benefit the Khan-Emperor.
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Postby Estva » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:24 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Estva wrote:I am talking about if the Mughals invaded Eastern Persia.


Sure, I could chew up Persia and take some of their nice trade route regions away, especially in Afghanistan. But I like having stable borders, and unless the Persians get screwy with trade tariffs and artificially inflated prices, a war is far more likely to cost more than it would benefit the Khan-Emperor.

I know, that is why I am not super concerned you will invade them.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:27 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Estva wrote:I am talking about if the Mughals invaded Eastern Persia.


Sure, I could chew up Persia and take some of their nice trade route regions away, especially in Afghanistan. But I like having stable borders, and unless the Persians get screwy with trade tariffs and artificially inflated prices, a war is far more likely to cost more than it would benefit the Khan-Emperor.

A war in Georgia would sever the Silk Road.
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Postby Bujahla » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:27 pm

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APPLICATION
Nation Name: Nippon/Japan/日本 | Nippon-koku/The State of Japan/日本国 | The Japanese Empire
Capital City: Kyo
Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/Icm2QJx.png
-- Japan -- Nippon -- Mainland
-- Korea -- Kankoku -- Colony / Annexed Dependency
-- Lands north of Korea -- Nōsu -- Settlers Colony
-- Kamchatka -- Koriyākutochi -- Whaling Outpost Colony
-- Australia -- Sausu -- Penal Colony
-- New Zealand -- Shin Nippon -- Penal Colony Colony
-- Alaska -- Arasuka-shū -- Settler Colony
-- Indonesia -- Kōryō shotō -- Merchant/Resource Colony
Population: 42,000,000
National Flag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_Flag
Head of State: Emperor Otomo Higashiyama
Head of Government: (see above)
Government Type: Absolute Monarch by Divine Right.
National Ideologies: Imperialism, Modernization, Monarchism, Culturally Conservative, Japanese Superiority
History:
In 1549, the Iberian Missionary Francis Xavier began talks with the Otomo Daimyo, he brought with him the teachings of Catholicism, which the Daiymo and his people adopted and firearms. With these new weapons, the Otomo found power. Armies of steel and sword would fall like flies to the disciplined "Samurai Gunmen" who were known as "Firewielders" by their enemies. One by one the Japanese Clans fell to Otomo rule and by 1568 war had erupted between the Shogun and the Otomo. It was a long and tiresome war, with Otomo incursions into Northern Japan to cut away at the ribs of the Shogunate, making the way to the heart easier. By 1571 the Shogunate had fallen, Japan was now ruled by the Otomo and the Japanese Empire was born. Soon, Japan had been converted to the Catholic ways of the Otomo but trouble soon followed, several Englishmen arrived but they were greeted warmly and allowed to preach to the populace. Only a few families changed their faith, their descendants all living alongside their Catholic brethren in Nōsu.

With new technology as their fingertips and able to compete with Europeans, the Japanese invaded the Korean Peninsula in 1592. Through the implementation of western weapons, the death of Admiral Yi Sun-sin, the survival of General Hideyoshi, and European assistance. Korea was conquered by 1598 and Nippon had expanded greatly. With a foothold on the continent it would wait until the 1610's to begin sending settlers to Nōsu. They built forts and settlements and displaced the minimum local populations. Whalers set up outposts on Koriyākutochi in the 1500's. With the knowledge of the voyages of Zheng He to the New World, the Emperor funded a colonial expedition to it via the whaling outposts. They were expanded into what was called Arasuka-shū after an Inuit word in the 1630's predominantly. More waves of settlers appeared in the 1640's-70's that saw the establishment of lower and lower colonies such as Shin Kyūshū (Vancouver). In the 1640's a Dutch explorer sailed to Australia. Word soon spread to Japan due to heavy trade ties with the dutch/Iberians. In 1647 an expedition to the land down under was sent. In the 1650 a penal colony was started on Sausu. It grew rapidly overtime and expanded to the island of Shin Nippon (New Zealand) in the 1660's. In 1687 a treaty was signed with the local Maori and Shin Nippon was fully controlled. The century of Japanese imperialism was funded by the grow of knowledge and trade with the west, primarily Iberia. The concept of Japanese superiority and colonization was an easily attachable one and spread like wild-fire among the people. Now the nation stood with many more lands to expand into. Siberia, Australia, the New World, the Pacific, and even China.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:28 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Sure, I could chew up Persia and take some of their nice trade route regions away, especially in Afghanistan. But I like having stable borders, and unless the Persians get screwy with trade tariffs and artificially inflated prices, a war is far more likely to cost more than it would benefit the Khan-Emperor.

A war in Georgia would sever the Silk Road.


Parts of it, yes. But a war with Persia would also sever it, from a Mughal perspective, and naval routes would still operate if a conflict in Georgia manifested. Basically, barring extensive Persian victories that would destabilize the region, I can't see a use for the Mughal hosts in Persia.
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