Guns of Our Forefathers³: Reborn (OOC/Worldbuilding)

[Epraria]

Ok Calt your post had some pretty good and old sounding Swedish but a few mistakes did happen.
For example I think Leda is the word you are looking for in head. Second is that Sweden is refered to as Fosterlandet instead of the motherland. Finally is that I think you mean fint or bra instead of fin. The last problem is that Blockad alone is an incomplete sentence. The sentence should be. "Jag hoppas att danskarna inte någonsin kan ha en blockad runt Stockholm, eller Gud bevara oss.

[Caltarania]

Ok Calt your post had some pretty good and old sounding Swedish but a few mistakes did happen.
For example I think Leda is the word you are looking for in head. Second is that Sweden is refered to as Fosterlandet instead of the motherland. Finally is that I think you mean fint or bra instead of fin. The last problem is that Blockad alone is an incomplete sentence. The sentence should be. "Jag hoppas att danskarna inte någonsin kan ha en blockad runt Stockholm, eller Gud bevara oss.

Danke, is of edited!

[Kryskov]

Ok Calt your post had some pretty good and old sounding Swedish but a few mistakes did happen.
For example I think Leda is the word you are looking for in head. Second is that Sweden is refered to as Fosterlandet instead of the motherland. Finally is that I think you mean fint or bra instead of fin. The last problem is that Blockad alone is an incomplete sentence. The sentence should be. "Jag hoppas att danskarna inte någonsin kan ha en blockad runt Stockholm, eller Gud bevara oss.

Danke, is of edited!

What exactly are they saying?

[Caltarania]

Danke, is of edited!

What exactly are they saying?

There is a translation spoiler at the bottom of the post.

[Epraria]

Ok Calt your post had some pretty good and old sounding Swedish but a few mistakes did happen.
For example I think Leda is the word you are looking for in head. Second is that Sweden is refered to as Fosterlandet instead of the motherland. Finally is that I think you mean fint or bra instead of fin. The last problem is that Blockad alone is an incomplete sentence. The sentence should be. "Jag hoppas att danskarna inte någonsin kan ha en blockad runt Stockholm, eller Gud bevara oss.

Danke, is of edited!

Your welcome

[Reatra]

Does the OP map show all then North American claims? Or are there more?

[Mesrane]

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Looks good, accepted.

Great, thanks.

[Mesrane]

Linky. Map work in progress.

UPDATE #2.

Might as well add me that wayward Kazakh province.

[Lingang]

I should finish my history now....but it's 11:30 PM where I am....and I'm tired...

[Carathon]

APPLICATION
Nation Name: The Empire of Romania ( Imperium Romaniae / Römisches Kaiserreich )
Capital City: Constantinople
Claimed Territory:

Population: Five million, eight-hundred and two thousand. ( Subject to major change, as this is just my best guess )
National Flag:

Head of State: Emperor Frederick Hohenzollern VI
Head of Government: N/A
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy ( in Theory )
National Ideologies: Devout Catholicism ( Nihil Sine Deo, ) Colonialism in Anatolia ( Drang nach Osten, ) and Feudalism.
History:

Perhaps there was a different wind, a different flock of birds or a slightly riper harvest or perhaps even god's own will. Regardless, instead of falling dead hardly three-hundred days into his Papacy, the Pope Benedict XI lived on. Viewing the Muslim states of the Levant as too powerful and unified, he set his eyes onto the warring realms of the Byzantine Empire and the Turks of Anatolia, the Ottomans foremost amongst them. Thusly, he issued a Papal Bull in 1306 declaring the followers of the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople to be outright heretics - on par with Muslims and Pagans - and called for all good Christians to take up the cross and crusade upon the City's Of World's desires for remission in their sins in heaven. The Templars with their wealth, and the battle-hardened Teutonic Knights with experience from their failures in the Baltics along with the Hospitallers with their mighty navy also joined.

In reality, many of the crusaders were young knights looking for lands, Lords seeking papal approval for stability for their lands and Venetian profiteers and mercenaries looking for the wealth and loot. Under the thin guise of acting for god, the crusaders landed in Thrace and after overwhelming local Imperial Militia, the Byzantine Emperor mustered whatever men he could and retreated to their greatest city: Constantinople.

The Teutonic Knights led the way, scaling the ancient Theodosian walls and engaging in fierce hand to hand combat with the Byzantines led by their emperor who fought bravely to the man. The Emperor's heir was smuggled out of the city by loyal court eunuchs and began to rally small pockets of resistance - continuing to be a thorn in the Crusaders side, who were only enraged by the Second Sack of Constantinople after the Crusader's victory in 1308.

The Turks under Osman caught wind of this, and prepared their forces to finally take the city that was long coveted. The Crusaders, who were busy crushing local revolts and growing fat off of the loot and food stores Constantinople contained were caught unaware and the Turks crossed the Bosphorus mostly intact. However fortunately for the Crusaders, their landing in the chaos of the butchery and anarchy of Constantinople was haphazard. They were unable to re-organize before night came early that day, and - illuminated by torches - the heavy cavalry of the young lords and Monastic Orders threw them back into the sea with massive armored charges and the burning of their boats, further disorganizing and shattering Ottoman forces. Osman himself was captured and signed a peace in-exchange for the Turkish land across the Bosphorus and nearly his entire treasury.

The Pope offered ruler-ship over the Empire to Baldwin III, the son of Baldwin II the titular Emperor of the Empire of Romania since it's fall in 1269, which he accepted graciously. Baldwin III proved to be a ineffectual ruler, and reigned over little more then a quagmire of pogroms against the "heretical" Orthodox christians, mass-looting, border skirmishes with the Turks and Bulgarians, Greek revolts and scrabbles between the Frankish, Venetian and Germanic Knights over how lands should be divided.

By the time of 1338, the creatively named Baldwin IV ruled as Emperor in Constantinople ( The Pope did not dare anger the Holy Roman Empire as to crown Baldwin as the Emperor of the Romans or Emperor of the Roman Empire directly, thusly he was merely the Emperor In Constantinople ruling over the land of Romania, similar to the King in Prussia situation ) as the black-plague hit. He was forced to quarantine Constantinople which, in such a unstable realm, one of his only sources of steady income. Thusly, Baldwin IV decided to confiscate some of the Churches land and wealth in the Empire in order to avoid becoming impoverished. The Pope himself sent his Legate to tell Baldwin IV to halt his actions. Baldwin IV insisted that " a devout servant of god " deserved to live in comfort, and continued his confiscations. The Pope sent a letter claiming that " I am the most devout servant of his holiness on this earth."

Insults escalated between the two, culminating in Baldwin IV executing the Papal Legate via the cruel act of being hung, drawn and quartered and him being subsequently excommunicated. The Hochmeister, Heinrich Hohenzollern of the Teutonic Order realized that inevitably many of the other Lords would attempt to seize the throne themselves and decided to stage a palace coup. Baldwin IV spine was fractured with a mace blow, before his skull was chopped to pieces with an axe. He was then partially immolated and his remains unceremoniously discarded into the Bosphorus. As a reward for his "piety," The Pope relieved Heinrich of his vows and proclaimed him Emperor. Heinrich then began the long line of Hohenzollern rulers over the Imperium of Romania and passed down the position of Grand-Master of the Teutonic Order to his first-born son, starting the tradition of the heirs of each Emperor leading the Teutonic Order, which was met with many grumbles at first but gradually accepted.

Warfare, raiding against peasants, plagues and starvation resulting from embezzling and inefficient admistration reduced the population of the Empire and the surrounding area of the former Byzantine Empire by 50-60% by the time of Heinrich I. However this had the side-effect of freeing up fertile land for Germanic and Latin settlers to work on and Lordships for loyal knights and warlords to be rewarded by - this ushering in a long age of colonization, primarily to Anatolia. The price of grain decreased, wages increased, a diet in the fashion of the Holy Roman Empire was established and by 1350, the Empire saw a semblence of stability for the first time it's in existence.

As the centuries passed, the Greece population begrudgingly accepted it's place, the many landed knights with their peasant immigrants established a strong middle-class in the marches of Anatolia and the feudal system remained strong. Though the Latins retained much of their culture, the Crusaders and their subjects exchanged some customs and the Byzantine Administrators managed to find a place for themselves in the court of the Emperor, and even in the diet - much to the chagrin of the aristocrats, which rebelled and came close to dethroning the Hohenzollerns on many occasions.

in 1621, the Empire managed to seize the holy seize of Antioch and the Emperor established the Eastern Marches as permanent and final border against the Muslims and Turks, building many fortifications and landing knights as peasant-warriors.

By 1700, the Empire consisted of 30% Assorted Germans, Franks and other Western Europeans with the remaining number being the more native Turks and Greeks. The aristocracy continues their plots and schemes for power a-new, the printing-press and the budding seeds of nationalism slowly begins to re-awaken the oppressed greeks and the regressive Empire slowly comes face to face with the outdated and crippling Feudal system.

Constantinople, the City of World's Desire, sits on the Knife's edge....

429- do not remove, or else your app won't be accepted

[Reatra]

Could I switch countries to a Native-East Asian nation in Western North America? It's go pretty well with Ling's continued Treasure Fleet history.

[Kryskov]

Could I switch countries to a Native-East Asian nation in Western North America? It's go pretty well with Ling's continued Treasure Fleet history.

Well...it would be like 99.9% native, but sure.

[Kryskov]

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Concept seems interesting. If you could, though, lower your pop to about 5.5 million, that would be appreciated, as that was the population of all of Turkey in a century or so.

[Carathon]

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Concept seems interesting. If you could, though, lower your pop to about 5.5 million, that would be appreciated, as that was the population of all of Turkey in a century or so.

Yeah. My estimate was a utter crap-shoot, so that's fine.

[Kryskov]

Concept seems interesting. If you could, though, lower your pop to about 5.5 million, that would be appreciated, as that was the population of all of Turkey in a century or so.

Yeah. My estimate was a utter crap-shoot, so that's fine.

Accepted, then.

[Carathon]

Yeah. My estimate was a utter crap-shoot, so that's fine.

Accepted, then.

Danke.

[Alleniana]

eh eh eh

b/c two front wars are not fun

ask reichtangle

4 front war

It's like 26% use it as their main language with another 20% using it alongside english. There is actually a major revival going on amongst young folk. And Eire is just as commonly used(across the pond in Connecticut) as Ireland.

Actually, using Eire instead of Eíre is very offensive. Because Eire without the accent means "burden".

Using it on purpose is. Using it because you can't be bothered finding the letter? Doubtful.

Why the hate ?

I think the concept is pretty unrealistic. Most of the stuff here has been on point in terms of realism and yours is by far the worse. Especially since you are thinking of a royal marriage with Ethiopia (or was that Russia) which is on the opposite side of the world).

Also because I know you're gonna be a huge problem in Japanese colonization of Siberia and I hope you don't inflate your nation's strength and centralization and ability to attack my colonies.

Winter

And I don't have this letter.

You probably do. Press "i" while holding down the Alt Gr key, that is how I do it on a British QWERTY keyboard.

EDIT: Also, it's not Eíre, it's Éire.

What's Gr?

[Reatra]

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Concept seems interesting. If you could, though, lower your pop to about 5.5 million, that would be appreciated, as that was the population of all of Turkey in a century or so.

That's quite a bit. I was going with a couple lost treasure fleets crash in various places. The first mum joy hits San Francisco. The natives are destroyed by disease, but are able to make a huge comeback due to medicinal practices and that the natives become subjects of the Asians there. Farming the fertile valleys and grazing the hundreds of animals on the fleets, and the fact that the first/main treasure fleet was a full sized one which means that there could have been up to twenty-five thousand sailors, concubines, and soldiers on it, means that there would be a very significant Asian culture. I was think mostly native race, lots of Chinese features, and mostly Chinese culture.

[Kryskov]

Concept seems interesting. If you could, though, lower your pop to about 5.5 million, that would be appreciated, as that was the population of all of Turkey in a century or so.

That's quite a bit. I was going with a couple lost treasure fleets crash in various places. The first mum joy hits San Francisco. The natives are destroyed by disease, but are able to make a huge comeback due to medicinal practices and that the natives become subjects of the Asians there. Farming the fertile valleys and grazing the hundreds of animals on the fleets, and the fact that the first/main treasure fleet was a full sized one which means that there could have been up to twenty-five thousand sailors, concubines, and soldiers on it, means that there would be a very significant Asian culture. I was think mostly native race, lots of Chinese features, and mostly Chinese culture.

Eh.....

I'm really not into the whole "Asians in America" thing. Didn't want to say that, but now I have to.

Also, "medicinal practices" don't mean shit.

[Reatra]

That's quite a bit. I was going with a couple lost treasure fleets crash in various places. The first mum joy hits San Francisco. The natives are destroyed by disease, but are able to make a huge comeback due to medicinal practices and that the natives become subjects of the Asians there. Farming the fertile valleys and grazing the hundreds of animals on the fleets, and the fact that the first/main treasure fleet was a full sized one which means that there could have been up to twenty-five thousand sailors, concubines, and soldiers on it, means that there would be a very significant Asian culture. I was think mostly native race, lots of Chinese features, and mostly Chinese culture.

Eh.....

I'm really not into the whole "Asians in America" thing. Didn't want to say that, but now I have to.

Also, "medicinal practices" don't mean shit.

Look, I know people don't like the idea of those Ming getting to America, but this isn't "China colonized America and is better than Europe at everything". Those Treasure fleets had years of rice and grain, animals, and chicken for sacrifice that could be eaten if times got desperate.

And medicinal practices means that they tried to help the natives, which means that instead of 90% dying its 75%.

[Fortunagen]

To join or not to join

[Kryskov]

Look, I know people don't like the idea of those Ming getting to America, but this isn't "China colonized America and is better than Europe at everything". Those Treasure fleets had years of rice and grain, animals, and chicken for sacrifice that could be eaten if times got desperate.

And medicinal practices means that they tried to help the natives, which means that instead of 90% dying its 75%.

I don't really know of any particular practices that would have cured smallpox/other diseases in 1600 times. I mean, there wasn't really a solid concept of quarantine because people would still handle stuff the other people touched. There wasn't inoculation, to my knowledge, either.

I'm sorry. It's just one of those things I find to fringy and, frankly, overdone in the AH world. I can't go one incarnation of GOOF with at least three people asking for Asian colonies or Asian-American nation. The truth is, I'd rather go awhile without independent nations (other than pure natives) in America.

Another thing, I don't think China or the treasure fleet would particularly want to make a colony, which is why I am very skeptical of the current Chinese colonies.

[Reatra]

Look, I know people don't like the idea of those Ming getting to America, but this isn't "China colonized America and is better than Europe at everything". Those Treasure fleets had years of rice and grain, animals, and chicken for sacrifice that could be eaten if times got desperate.

And medicinal practices means that they tried to help the natives, which means that instead of 90% dying its 75%.

I don't really know of any particular practices that would have cured smallpox/other diseases in 1600 times. I mean, there wasn't really a solid concept of quarantine because people would still handle stuff the other people touched. There wasn't inoculation, to my knowledge, either.

I'm sorry. It's just one of those things I find to fringy and, frankly, overdone in the AH world. I can't go one incarnation of GOOF with at least three people asking for Asian colonies or Asian-American nation. The truth is, I'd rather go awhile without independent nations (other than pure natives) in America.

Another thing, I don't think China or the treasure fleet would particularly want to make a colony, which is why I am very skeptical of the current Chinese colonies.

My history is that the long voyage caused a mutiny, and they turned back towards China, but unknown currents brought them to America.

[Kryskov]

My history is that the long voyage caused a mutiny, and they turned back towards China, but unknown currents brought them to America.

Okay... long voyage to where?

[Carathon]

Does the Papal States still exist?