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In a few days.
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In a week or more. This tech level is fun.
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It should be Called Age of Depression.
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It should be Age of Colonialism
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It should be -open for sugg-
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:50 pm

New Fraulasia wrote:
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Well I believe I destroyed his entire fleet so that must count.

The destruction of his fleet qualifies as the total destruction of the civilization, the only survivors assimilated by you? This isn't New Zyras, and that's not how it works.

It should just mean the destruction of the fleet but it should not be that bad.
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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:51 pm

New Fraulasia wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
Well I believe I destroyed his entire fleet so that must count.

The destruction of his fleet qualifies as the total destruction of the civilization, the only survivors assimilated by you? This isn't New Zyras, and that's not how it works.


Hmm wants wrong with soldiers marrying the people in the lands their stationed in? Happens all the time buddy.
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Postby New Fraulasia » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:52 pm

Item cap increases for every civ you've conquered, not forces item you've destroyed.

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:56 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
New Fraulasia wrote:The destruction of his fleet qualifies as the total destruction of the civilization, the only survivors assimilated by you? This isn't New Zyras, and that's not how it works.


Hmm wants wrong with soldiers marrying the people in the lands their stationed in? Happens all the time buddy.

Yeah, I think what should be going on is that the Union starts fighting back against your forces.
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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:01 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
Hmm wants wrong with soldiers marrying the people in the lands their stationed in? Happens all the time buddy.

Yeah, I think what should be going on is that the Union starts fighting back against your forces.


You mean colonist?

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:07 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Yeah, I think what should be going on is that the Union starts fighting back against your forces.


You mean colonist?

Yes, the Colonists.
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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:12 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
You mean colonist?

Yes, the Colonists.


Well since it's a colony and not a nation it should be more under my control,and also they would be prospering more under my rule then the former.My economy is richer then Bythons so they have more opportunities and their rather isolated anyways with Bythons tiny navy and great distance.
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Postby New Fraulasia » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:17 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Yes, the Colonists.


Well since it's a colony and not a nation it should be more under my control,and also they would be prospering more under my rule then the former.My economy is richer then Bythons so they have more opportunities and their rather isolated anyways with Bythons tiny navy and great distance.

Bython has no navy, at this point, and Bython has to cross a much smaller distance than you actually have to, needing to circumnavigate a continent to reach the land masses on the other side. It's more logical, since we're all pre-telecommunication for it to be more Bython's than yours, once the ships head out.
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:21 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Yes, the Colonists.


Well since it's a colony and not a nation it should be more under my control,and also they would be prospering more under my rule then the former.My economy is richer then Bythons so they have more opportunities and their rather isolated anyways with Bythons tiny navy and great distance.

Yeah, but the newly revived Theocratium would have another say about that.
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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:24 pm

New Fraulasia wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
Well since it's a colony and not a nation it should be more under my control,and also they would be prospering more under my rule then the former.My economy is richer then Bythons so they have more opportunities and their rather isolated anyways with Bythons tiny navy and great distance.

Bython has no navy, at this point, and Bython has to cross a much smaller distance than you actually have to, needing to circumnavigate a continent to reach the land masses on the other side. It's more logical, since we're all telecommunication for it to be more Bython's than yours, once the ships head out.


Well yes its much closer what I meant was by a combination Bython had 5 ships yes? he said it,meaning logically he would keep most of those ships near the motherland to defend then care for some far territory you read it there was no ships not one when I arrived he was stretched very thinly.Meaning that excising rule would be very difficult and build a telegraph line yeah he didn't do that.

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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:25 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
Well since it's a colony and not a nation it should be more under my control,and also they would be prospering more under my rule then the former.My economy is richer then Bythons so they have more opportunities and their rather isolated anyways with Bythons tiny navy and great distance.

Yeah, but the newly revived Theocratium would have another say about that.


What happens when you merge civs?

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:31 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Yeah, but the newly revived Theocratium would have another say about that.


What happens when you merge civs?

Unlike conquering them, we both play the new civilization and combine our infrastructure/forces/knowledge/ magic( though the last two cost twice as much when researching them). Though I still don't know if I will either conquering them or merge with them, either way the Theocratium will be revived.
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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:33 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
What happens when you merge civs?

Unlike conquering them, we both play the new civilization and combine our infrastructure/forces/knowledge/ magic( though the last two cost twice as much when researching them). Though I still don't know if I will either conquering them or merge with them, either way the Theocratium will be revived.


Yikes that's a lot isn't that how G-Tech got so powerful?

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:36 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Unlike conquering them, we both play the new civilization and combine our infrastructure/forces/knowledge/ magic( though the last two cost twice as much when researching them). Though I still don't know if I will either conquering them or merge with them, either way the Theocratium will be revived.


Yikes that's a lot isn't that how G-Tech got so powerful?

I think he did a whole lot of deals and diplomacy, plus there was no major wars like this one.
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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:38 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
Yikes that's a lot isn't that how G-Tech got so powerful?

I think he did a whole lot of deals and diplomacy, plus there was no major wars like this one.


No he formed a Union with Akademia and accumulated points even when he left the the game thus became a overwhelmingly powerful player and the war between us was major at least regionally

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:42 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I think he did a whole lot of deals and diplomacy, plus there was no major wars like this one.


No he formed a Union with Akademia and accumulated points even when he left the the game thus became a overwhelmingly powerful player and the war between us was major at least regionally

Shoot, that is what happened? No wonder he was that powerful in the last RP.
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:11 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
New Fraulasia wrote:The destruction of his fleet qualifies as the total destruction of the civilization, the only survivors assimilated by you? This isn't New Zyras, and that's not how it works.


Hmm wants wrong with soldiers marrying the people in the lands their stationed in? Happens all the time buddy.

I highly doubt the way Pac described it they would go "oh well hey soldier dude let's marry". Now if the people put up little to no resistance then it would be fine.

Levis Avara wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Yes, the Colonists.


Well since it's a colony and not a nation it should be more under my control,and also they would be prospering more under my rule then the former.My economy is richer then Bythons so they have more opportunities and their rather isolated anyways with Bythons tiny navy and great distance.


1st. The people still technically are Pac's as they are still citizens of the Bython Union. The land is yours but not the civilians.
2nd. Prospering would only be a minor factor as your not their original culture, you murdered tons of people that they knew and loved or sent them into the bush (doesn't exactly make friends).
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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:27 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
Hmm wants wrong with soldiers marrying the people in the lands their stationed in? Happens all the time buddy.

I highly doubt the way Pac described it they would go "oh well hey soldier dude let's marry". Now if the people put up little to no resistance then it would be fine.

Levis Avara wrote:
Well since it's a colony and not a nation it should be more under my control,and also they would be prospering more under my rule then the former.My economy is richer then Bythons so they have more opportunities and their rather isolated anyways with Bythons tiny navy and great distance.


1st. The people still technically are Pac's as they are still citizens of the Bython Union. The land is yours but not the civilians.
2nd. Prospering would only be a minor factor as your not their original culture, you murdered tons of people that they knew and loved or sent them into the bush (doesn't exactly make friends).


Well its been two years since that event happened meaning that they would get used to us,and having no way to beat us yeah they would be pacified there is no major rebel underground and if there was it would be destroyed face it there used to us now and some of the soldiers are marrying the conquered people again very common in history .

1st.I annexed the territory there for the Bythons are officially Altarian like how the British took New York from the Dutch the people would be more concerned over business has usual then conflicting nations

2nd.I'm not exterminating them if anything with sense this should encourage people not to fight a foe they can't defeat.And I didn't send people to the bush the rebels ran on their own when their cause was diminished.

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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:50 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:I highly doubt the way Pac described it they would go "oh well hey soldier dude let's marry". Now if the people put up little to no resistance then it would be fine.



1st. The people still technically are Pac's as they are still citizens of the Bython Union. The land is yours but not the civilians.
2nd. Prospering would only be a minor factor as your not their original culture, you murdered tons of people that they knew and loved or sent them into the bush (doesn't exactly make friends).


Well its been two years since that event happened meaning that they would get used to us,and having no way to beat us yeah they would be pacified there is no major rebel underground and if there was it would be destroyed face it there used to us now and some of the soldiers are marrying the conquered people again very common in history .

1st.I annexed the territory there for the Bythons are officially Altarian like how the British took New York from the Dutch the people would be more concerned over business has usual then conflicting nations.

2nd.I'm not exterminating them if anything with sense this should encourage people not to fight a foe they can't defeat.And I didn't send people to the bush the rebels ran on their own when their cause was diminished.


Pac's population is not yours at all. Let's say in the original my entire civ was conquered and military destroyed by your logic then any Zyrasian citizen would be yours. No. The Bython colonies were land of the Bython union and it's pop is the union's pop so your controlling his people.

1st. I'm sorry how can you speak for the people when their not yours? Explain it to me. Also cultures don't switch after conquest or a measly 2 years you'll have to do some pretty heavy genocide and brainwashing to switch cultures in 2 years. And even if they are officially Altarian they are still citizens of the Bython Union and they were citizens of that country first.

2nd. Controlling Pac's population saying actions that apparently happened by the populous when they are Pac's.

So basically I call god mod.
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:55 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
Well its been two years since that event happened meaning that they would get used to us,and having no way to beat us yeah they would be pacified there is no major rebel underground and if there was it would be destroyed face it there used to us now and some of the soldiers are marrying the conquered people again very common in history .

1st.I annexed the territory there for the Bythons are officially Altarian like how the British took New York from the Dutch the people would be more concerned over business has usual then conflicting nations.

2nd.I'm not exterminating them if anything with sense this should encourage people not to fight a foe they can't defeat.And I didn't send people to the bush the rebels ran on their own when their cause was diminished.


Pac's population is not yours at all. Let's say in the original my entire civ was conquered and military destroyed by your logic then any Zyrasian citizen would be yours. No. The Bython colonies were land of the Bython union and it's pop is the union's pop so your controlling his people.

1st. I'm sorry how can you speak for the people when their not yours? Explain it to me. Also cultures don't switch after conquest or a measly 2 years you'll have to do some pretty heavy genocide and brainwashing to switch cultures in 2 years. And even if they are officially Altarian they are still citizens of the Bython Union and they were citizens of that country first.

2nd. Controlling Pac's population saying actions that apparently happened by the populous when they are Pac's.

So basically I call god mod.

Besides, the Union's population and culture is similar to mine because they employ a caste system( just not as complex as mine).
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Postby New Fraulasia » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:06 pm

I was going to get into how the Xel'nox continent seemed culturally homogenous.

To build off of Seno, the circumstances of your conquest are not ideal to you in the long run.
1st. What soldiers? Originally you sent the dreadnought and an escort, no sort of occupying force.
2nd. This dreadnought seems important enough to the Emperor's navy that it would be called away rather quickly. Then, you've lost most of your occupation's inertia, a massive symbol of your superiority gone. (and as I do recall, this is your only dreadnought).
3rd. I am in agreement with Seno. The RPing of another's populace is an act of god mod.

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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:11 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:
Levis Avara wrote:
Well its been two years since that event happened meaning that they would get used to us,and having no way to beat us yeah they would be pacified there is no major rebel underground and if there was it would be destroyed face it there used to us now and some of the soldiers are marrying the conquered people again very common in history .

1st.I annexed the territory there for the Bythons are officially Altarian like how the British took New York from the Dutch the people would be more concerned over business has usual then conflicting nations.

2nd.I'm not exterminating them if anything with sense this should encourage people not to fight a foe they can't defeat.And I didn't send people to the bush the rebels ran on their own when their cause was diminished.


Pac's population is not yours at all. Let's say in the original my entire civ was conquered and military destroyed by your logic then any Zyrasian citizen would be yours. No. The Bython colonies were land of the Bython union and it's pop is the union's pop so your controlling his people.

1st. I'm sorry how can you speak for the people when their not yours? Explain it to me. Also cultures don't switch after conquest or a measly 2 years you'll have to do some pretty heavy genocide and brainwashing to switch cultures in 2 years. And even if they are officially Altarian they are still citizens of the Bython Union and they were citizens of that country first.

2nd. Controlling Pac's population saying actions that apparently happened by the populous when they are Pac's.

So basically I call god mod.


1st.No I'm sorry for you being so hypocritical I didn't say that the Bythons bowed and build statues of us I said that the rebels where crushed and that the people where pacified I'm not gonna rp a genocide no matter the rules say and if that's the only way then I'm done with this game,their used to us might be resistive but not full blown revolting for they don't have the culture or resources to do it.

2nd.Didn't destroy their culture has long has they pay taxes and follow Altarian law then who cares they could worship the devil for all I care

3.I'm not controlling Pacs population since its a colony not a nation and seriously the rules say you can rp a conquered nation not colony why dos saying I pacified a people is so much? It's not like Im'a have him rp a successful revolt if he wants his colony then he better come and take it.

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Postby Levis Avara » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:13 pm

New Fraulasia wrote:I was going to get into how the Xel'nox continent seemed culturally homogenous.

To build off of Seno, the circumstances of your conquest are not ideal to you in the long run.
1st. What soldiers? Originally you sent the dreadnought and an escort, no sort of occupying force.
2nd. This dreadnought seems important enough to the Emperor's navy that it would be called away rather quickly. Then, you've lost most of your occupation's inertia, a massive symbol of your superiority gone. (and as I do recall, this is your only dreadnought).
3rd. I am in agreement with Seno. The RPing of another's populace is an act of god mod.


I said more ships would come bringing soldiers with them

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:15 pm

Might want to send some Songrici to help jumpstart a rebellion.
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:17 pm

Levis Avara wrote:
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:
Pac's population is not yours at all. Let's say in the original my entire civ was conquered and military destroyed by your logic then any Zyrasian citizen would be yours. No. The Bython colonies were land of the Bython union and it's pop is the union's pop so your controlling his people.

1st. I'm sorry how can you speak for the people when their not yours? Explain it to me. Also cultures don't switch after conquest or a measly 2 years you'll have to do some pretty heavy genocide and brainwashing to switch cultures in 2 years. And even if they are officially Altarian they are still citizens of the Bython Union and they were citizens of that country first.

2nd. Controlling Pac's population saying actions that apparently happened by the populous when they are Pac's.

So basically I call god mod.


1st.No I'm sorry for you being so hypocritical I didn't say that the Bythons bowed and build statues of us I said that the rebels where crushed and that the people where pacified I'm not gonna rp a genocide no matter the rules say and if that's the only way then I'm done with this game,their used to us might be resistive but not full blown revolting for they don't have the culture or resources to do it.

2nd.Didn't destroy their culture has long has they pay taxes and follow Altarian law then who cares they could worship the devil for all I care

3.I'm not controlling Pacs population since its a colony not a nation and seriously the rules say you can rp a conquered nation not colony why dos saying I pacified a people is so much? It's not like Im'a have him rp a successful revolt if he wants his colony then he better come and take it.


A colony is an extension of a nation. Just saying that my IQ points are crying.
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