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In a few days.
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In a week or more. This tech level is fun.
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It should be Called Age of Depression.
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It should be Age of Colonialism
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It should be -open for sugg-
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Total votes : 48

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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:51 pm

Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Why, you can use them with mortars and bombard them from the coast since they are coming from the land.


We would for the most part be inland, and the only real coastal area I am planning to invade is the Capital, which I doubt Bython will want to bombard.

It depends on them, if the important people have gotten out then they would.
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Greater Franco-Iberia
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Founded: Nov 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Franco-Iberia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:56 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
No air filter at this point could filter out a chemical weapon (Not even in WW1 could they filter out chems', they just slapped on wet fabric and hoped for the best.) And medicine at this point cannot treat chemical weapon wounds, in fact, I am not sure that things like mustard gas and chlorine can be treated now, although I am not sure. And by sealing tunnels, they will gradually become more isolated from the outside, and will be trapped with the options of tunneling to the surface or dying, as many of the tunnels would be contaminated and lethal before they could seal one area completely off. I have a feeling releasing chem' weapons into the tunnels would be devastating, or at least a horrible tragedy and cause many, many deaths, especially since if we do and can develop gas masks, allowing us to break your seals without the threat of our own deaths.

My people have gas masks and darkened goggles( merchants and normal, lower caste come out from time to time) and plus they could just cover up and how do you know you will get as many tunnels as you think you will? I have many, and also I have enough to come out if one goes out. How do you even know that your people can even reach my tunnels anyway? It will be one hell of a fight to even keep the surface or get it let alone the tunnels.


I am sorry, but at this point a filter fine enough to filter out toxins would basically be impossible. And without a massive supply of gas masks, you would quickly run out. Gas masks usually only work for a maximum of 24 hours, after that they clog up and you either have the choice of choking to death or succumbing to the toxins. To gas into an unsuspecting tunnel, all we need to do is find a suspected location, drill a small hole until we hit said tunnel and pump mustard gas or chlorine into the tunnels, if we use an invisible or and/or sent-less gas, it could take many hours for your people to realize that they are being poisoned, once these areas are clear, any seals you set up could be broken by gas masked troops (If we develop gas masks.) who would face no resistance as the people in the tunnels they would enter would be already dead. The gas would act quickly, and it would be likely many people would die before they realized what was going on an attempted to run into a different tunnel and seal it.
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Greater Franco-Iberia
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Founded: Nov 02, 2014
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Postby Greater Franco-Iberia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:01 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
We would for the most part be inland, and the only real coastal area I am planning to invade is the Capital, which I doubt Bython will want to bombard.

It depends on them, if the important people have gotten out then they would.


They would have to be pretty desperate, and even so when they are at the point where they are willing to destroy their own cities I have basically won. Also, why would they want to defend it if everyone important left? The smart thing to do would be to sail off and defend the refugee outpost, as it would be extremely vulnerable to barbarian tribes and nearby empires, and if I develop a navy and their ships are already knocked out I can easily destroy the refugee camp. Also, 5 ships would not last long against a company of artillery guns.
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Greater Franco-Iberia
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Founded: Nov 02, 2014
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Postby Greater Franco-Iberia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:03 pm

Also, by the way, I will not be able to post for the next two days. Harkback, please post the card results, and when I return I will immediately press the attack.
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Pac Kindom
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Posts: 821
Founded: Nov 25, 2014
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Pac Kindom » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:04 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
We would for the most part be inland, and the only real coastal area I am planning to invade is the Capital, which I doubt Bython will want to bombard.

It depends on them, if the important people have gotten out then they would.



He got to get to my Capital first
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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:05 pm

Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
Ralnis wrote:My people have gas masks and darkened goggles( merchants and normal, lower caste come out from time to time) and plus they could just cover up and how do you know you will get as many tunnels as you think you will? I have many, and also I have enough to come out if one goes out. How do you even know that your people can even reach my tunnels anyway? It will be one hell of a fight to even keep the surface or get it let alone the tunnels.


I am sorry, but at this point a filter fine enough to filter out toxins would basically be impossible. And without a massive supply of gas masks, you would quickly run out. Gas masks usually only work for a maximum of 24 hours, after that they clog up and you either have the choice of choking to death or succumbing to the toxins. To gas into an unsuspecting tunnel, all we need to do is find a suspected location, drill a small hole until we hit said tunnel and pump mustard gas or chlorine into the tunnels, if we use an invisible or and/or sent-less gas, it could take many hours for your people to realize that they are being poisoned, once these areas are clear, any seals you set up could be broken by gas masked troops (If we develop gas masks.) who would face no resistance as the people in the tunnels they would enter would be already dead. The gas would act quickly, and it would be likely many people would die before they realized what was going on an attempted to run into a different tunnel and seal it.

True on that regard, all my people wear it but not for en masse emergcy, good chink in my armor. However the question is, which hole will be able to launch and how deep do you have to go? You don't( nor anyone) has the amount of supplies to attack me and hold me off for long if they do succeed in caging me. The supplies and other things will be bad enough even with chemical warfare. So it is only a matter of waiting out till the well runs dry. Also, who says I don't have allies?
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Pac Kindom
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Founded: Nov 25, 2014
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Pac Kindom » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:08 pm

Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
Ralnis wrote:My people have gas masks and darkened goggles( merchants and normal, lower caste come out from time to time) and plus they could just cover up and how do you know you will get as many tunnels as you think you will? I have many, and also I have enough to come out if one goes out. How do you even know that your people can even reach my tunnels anyway? It will be one hell of a fight to even keep the surface or get it let alone the tunnels.


I am sorry, but at this point a filter fine enough to filter out toxins would basically be impossible. And without a massive supply of gas masks, you would quickly run out. Gas masks usually only work for a maximum of 24 hours, after that they clog up and you either have the choice of choking to death or succumbing to the toxins. To gas into an unsuspecting tunnel, all we need to do is find a suspected location, drill a small hole until we hit said tunnel and pump mustard gas or chlorine into the tunnels, if we use an invisible or and/or sent-less gas, it could take many hours for your people to realize that they are being poisoned, once these areas are clear, any seals you set up could be broken by gas masked troops (If we develop gas masks.) who would face no resistance as the people in the tunnels they would enter would be already dead. The gas would act quickly, and it would be likely many people would die before they realized what was going on an attempted to run into a different tunnel and seal it.


How in earth have you got mustard gas or chlorine, last i saw you did not even have Chemistry
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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:10 pm

Pac Kindom wrote:
Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
I am sorry, but at this point a filter fine enough to filter out toxins would basically be impossible. And without a massive supply of gas masks, you would quickly run out. Gas masks usually only work for a maximum of 24 hours, after that they clog up and you either have the choice of choking to death or succumbing to the toxins. To gas into an unsuspecting tunnel, all we need to do is find a suspected location, drill a small hole until we hit said tunnel and pump mustard gas or chlorine into the tunnels, if we use an invisible or and/or sent-less gas, it could take many hours for your people to realize that they are being poisoned, once these areas are clear, any seals you set up could be broken by gas masked troops (If we develop gas masks.) who would face no resistance as the people in the tunnels they would enter would be already dead. The gas would act quickly, and it would be likely many people would die before they realized what was going on an attempted to run into a different tunnel and seal it.


How in earth have you got mustard gas or chlorine, last i saw you did not even have Chemistry

He will probably rush to research it, which chemical warfare requires composite chemistry, which is not till next era so he will have to wait to get it.
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Greater Franco-Iberia
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Founded: Nov 02, 2014
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Postby Greater Franco-Iberia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:10 pm

Pac Kindom wrote:
Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
I am sorry, but at this point a filter fine enough to filter out toxins would basically be impossible. And without a massive supply of gas masks, you would quickly run out. Gas masks usually only work for a maximum of 24 hours, after that they clog up and you either have the choice of choking to death or succumbing to the toxins. To gas into an unsuspecting tunnel, all we need to do is find a suspected location, drill a small hole until we hit said tunnel and pump mustard gas or chlorine into the tunnels, if we use an invisible or and/or sent-less gas, it could take many hours for your people to realize that they are being poisoned, once these areas are clear, any seals you set up could be broken by gas masked troops (If we develop gas masks.) who would face no resistance as the people in the tunnels they would enter would be already dead. The gas would act quickly, and it would be likely many people would die before they realized what was going on an attempted to run into a different tunnel and seal it.


How in earth have you got mustard gas or chlorine, last i saw you did not even have Chemistry


First of all, I have chemistry, second of all, it was a hypothetical way to defeat Ralnis.
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Pac Kindom
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Founded: Nov 25, 2014
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Pac Kindom » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:12 pm

Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
Pac Kindom wrote:
How in earth have you got mustard gas or chlorine, last i saw you did not even have Chemistry


First of all, I have chemistry, second of all, it was a hypothetical way to defeat Ralnis.


OK sorry
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Greater Franco-Iberia
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Founded: Nov 02, 2014
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Postby Greater Franco-Iberia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:13 pm

Pac Kindom wrote:
Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
First of all, I have chemistry, second of all, it was a hypothetical way to defeat Ralnis.


OK sorry


NP, just a misunderstanding.
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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:14 pm

Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
Pac Kindom wrote:
How in earth have you got mustard gas or chlorine, last i saw you did not even have Chemistry


First of all, I have chemistry, second of all, it was a hypothetical way to defeat Ralnis.

Probably one of the few ways to defeat me. Though it will be a tough and hellish fight when he does get the chance to invade.
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Pac Kindom
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Founded: Nov 25, 2014
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Pac Kindom » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:15 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Greater Franco-Iberia wrote:
First of all, I have chemistry, second of all, it was a hypothetical way to defeat Ralnis.

Probably one of the few ways to defeat me. Though it will be a tough and hellish fight when he does get the chance to invade.


I know a way send in killer rabbits
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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:17 pm

Pac Kindom wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Probably one of the few ways to defeat me. Though it will be a tough and hellish fight when he does get the chance to invade.


I know a way send in killer rabbits

That will be funny to see.
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Pac Kindom
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Founded: Nov 25, 2014
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Pac Kindom » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:22 pm

Guyes

I was look at the Technology Tree and i think Combustion mite be too easy to get. i think we need a Technology like refining first
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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:43 pm

Pac Kindom wrote:Guyes

I was look at the Technology Tree and i think Combustion mite be too easy to get. i think we need a Technology like refining first

Why do you think so and what would you do to change it?
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Harkback Union
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Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:10 am

If you guys were to take a look at tech tree, Chemical weapons is Tech level 3 stuff:

-Chemistry (Fertilizers and cheaper gunpowder)
-Biology (know how life works)
-Calculus (Numbers!)
-Astronomy (Meh...)
-Engineering = Construction (Bigger buildings)


Level 2: (1800-1880)
- Geology (From Chemistry?) (more resources)
- Physics (Calculus, Chemistry, Engineering and astronomy?) (Airships and more accurate guns)
- Medicine (Biology or Chemistry?) (Cure disease)
- Railroads (Steam Power, Engineering) (TRAINS!)
- Electricity (with little practical use) (From Physics and Chemistry?) (telegraph)
- Metallurgy (Engineering and Chemistry) (More, better steel)
- Clockworks (Engineering) (Repeater rifles, Gattling guns)
- Industrial automation (Steam power and Engineering) (Assembly lines, More production)
- Photography (From Chemistry) (Pictures)

Level 3: (1880-1930)
- Combustion (From Physics and metallurgy) (Cars, Tanks)
- Organic Chemistry (From Biology, Medicine and Chemistry) (better medicine, more vaccines, Chemical weapons)
- Telecommunication (Electricity) (Radios, Telephones)
- Electric power (Electricity, Steam power) (Electric trains, Tools)
- Electric lights (Electricity) (Neon signs)
- Flight (Combustion) (Airplanes!)
- Moving Picture (Photography) (Movies)

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Pac Kindom
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Founded: Nov 25, 2014
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Pac Kindom » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:26 am

Ralnis wrote:
Pac Kindom wrote:Guyes

I was look at the Technology Tree and i think Combustion mite be too easy to get. i think we need a Technology like refining first

Why do you think so and what would you do to change it?



I was just thought i now could get Combustion and build tanks with out any knowage of how to refine petrol(i understand i wave to wait 3 day before i coul gain some thing else)
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Harkback Union
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Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:19 am

Pac Kindom wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Why do you think so and what would you do to change it?



I was just thought i now could get Combustion and build tanks with out any knowage of how to refine petrol(i understand i wave to wait 3 day before i coul gain some thing else)


Well, I could change medicine to petrochemistry and make it a prereq for combustion.

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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:27 am

Pac Kindom wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Why do you think so and what would you do to change it?



I was just thought i now could get Combustion and build tanks with out any knowage of how to refine petrol(i understand i wave to wait 3 day before i coul gain some thing else)

I think you should do what you can because do understand that on the third day you will be going to war with the Confederacy so the production and improvement of some of tanks will be hard to produce with the production and with an invading force on your lands.
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2072 AD
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Posts: 50
Founded: Aug 15, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby 2072 AD » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:29 am

Ralnis wrote:
Pac Kindom wrote:

I was just thought i now could get Combustion and build tanks with out any knowage of how to refine petrol(i understand i wave to wait 3 day before i coul gain some thing else)

I think you should do what you can because do understand that on the third day you will be going to war with the Confederacy so the production and improvement of some of tanks will be hard to produce with the production and with an invading force on your lands.


Tech tree was edited. Medicine tech now = Petrochemistry, which is needed for combustion.

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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:35 am

2072 AD wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I think you should do what you can because do understand that on the third day you will be going to war with the Confederacy so the production and improvement of some of tanks will be hard to produce with the production and with an invading force on your lands.


Tech tree was edited. Medicine tech now = Petrochemistry, which is needed for combustion.

That is fine by me.
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Pac Kindom
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Posts: 821
Founded: Nov 25, 2014
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Pac Kindom » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:06 am

Harkback i hope you do not think i was have a go, i was just thinking was a bit easy

I love RP bye the way
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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:19 am

Pac Kindom wrote:Harkback i hope you do not think i was have a go, i was just thinking was a bit easy

I love RP bye the way

I think it makes sense.
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Harkback Union
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Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:58 am

Pac Kindom wrote:Harkback i hope you do not think i was have a go, i was just thinking was a bit easy

I love RP bye the way



I don't really understand the first sentence. Anyway, Your idea made sense and I love cutting through red tape.

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