United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:Look Hark i am done arguing... I am looking at the posts and finding clear flaws in your arguments.
For example: You using a train to deliver the planes to your base:
" She bought hundreds of planes and flew them to a Cult Estate "+ No reference of what happened after the the warehouse
The fact my airships arrived before yours:
USJR Post: Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:55 pm
Your Post: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:59 pm
Your claim Goffsill's ai rforce was still defending the base:
"The squadrons, far to the north of the whole engagement, wheel back around"
Quick Timing:
"financed construction of a secure aerodome-fort"
"hundreds of planes"
" His man siezed the warplanes, hid them in a Dunnrhof warehouse"
All of this takes days to weeks to do.
Claim that you are over my position:
" climbing up in altitude until they were high enough to see dozens of Kilometrans away."
*No reference of location relative to cloud cover or fort positon
Claiming you can see me through a cloud and dive bomb efficiently through said cloud:
Look this is just posteriors, either you are above me or you see me, you can't have both and we both know it. If you waited a little bit then ya, the cloud would break up, but that would be after i dropped by bombs.
Iron built airfields for me to use. Also guns for planes are difficult. Designing this from what you say are civilian planes would be nearly impossible to do in mass in days. Developing bombs in a matter of days and modifying aircraft for this is impossible. Simple turning civilian air crafts into this is difficult. The most i would give your new air force is the ability to throw grenades off the side of the plane and hand held macine guns or simple mounted ones (that would require multiple crew) towards the back of the plane. (Note forward mounted guns require shooting through the prop piece).
My post clearly states that my forces arrive (and are spotted by the defenders of the fort in the reply post) and start their calculations. Also i said before there is enough cloud cover for this and it isn't like they are at the top of the cloud, they are at the bottom. No where does it say you are on top of me, and neither do you say you are there to defend the fort. Also if you are on top of me then stop claiming you can see me because if there is a thick cloud between you and me then you wouldn't see me.
I am firing the ignore cannon now. I look at your argument and your posts clearly contradict the evidence you are supplying me as for your positions and capabilities. There are just too many contradictions. Besides for the dissolving cloud cover which would take affect in future posts you have done nothing to prove to me that your actions are reasonable. If anything they have opened my eyes to more inaccuracies and shoe-string explanations.
SOME of The planes were transported on trains:
The Following Days, Zathel Spent millions on Ordering New Aeroplanes.
Then there is another mention of her buying airplanes and personally flying them, but thats BEFORE they were taken to the warehouse. When you said she flew them all by herself, You were referring to the entire airfleet being transported from the warehouse to the estate (said planes, which I never said happened but whatever), which was done by trains. Notice the mention of the Warehouse in my post referring to the transportation.
Yes, Realisticly It took weeks to pull the 1st harkback Air division together, but realisticly, It takes weeks to invade Goffsill to the level you guys described, especially Given that they were prepared. Despotist armies must have taken some time (At least a week) fighting through the countryside and making it all the way to Goffsill's capital. There has been other events. New weapons were developed and deployed on both sides of scale and Signfificance greater then the 1st harkback Air division.
There was reference to the location of the planes:
"On the afternoon sky above Fort Serenity..."
I already mentioned several reasons why 5 airships doing a bombing run while hiding in clouds is the death of realism. There is no way to navigate inside clouds or to properly hide airships in them, something you didn't argue against. Good luck telling where the heck you are once you enter them. Your airships could go on for minutes looking to get out of a thick cloud and find themselves dozens of kilometers away from where they were before, given windspeeds at such heights. There isn't a thick cloud between us. If the weather was that bad, Then there would be a thick cloud between your airships and the fort, which is not the case. I'm sure The tip of the cloud was blown away due to winds or Airship-inducted cloud dispersing while you were releasing the bombs, Revealing your bombers and if you think thats godmodding, Then think of how you played god so far by placing clouds above fort serenity to begin with in shapes perfect for your airships to hide.
The biggest flaws in your arguments is the lack of it regarding how you could make sure your airship stays inside a cloud while you have no vision of anything. You are also not reading my posts properly and constantly mis-interpret what I say.
Also, I don't remember you developing airships capable of launching aircraft. Perhaps I missed a post of yours...
putting guns and bombs on planes is no way difficult. Please explain where I'm wrong...
All you need is some nails and hooks. You put the machine gun above the cockpit therefore allowing the pilot to pull the trigger and load the guns. Explosive Cannon shells serve perfectly as bombs, not the most efficient in terms of weight in their initial form but you can peel off useless parts easily and put them on the sides of the cockpit Attached to a string. You cut the strings when you want the bombs released. Easy peasy.





