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Pimps Inc wrote:

Transoxthraxia wrote:Indeed. What I think Felix, or Latin in general, is represented by is the dead Cyric branch of the Reuelic group. However, Cyric and Diomedic are often grouped as the same language (Differing simply on place names and personal names, as well as geographic location), so while Cyric has been dead for a few centuries, it wouldn't be crazy to think that someone descended from a Diomedic speaker would bear the name Felix. As for the last name, Feulicid sounds like the bastardization of Felixid, or "Of Felix", a dynastic name often reserved for royalty (Notably the Of ______ prefix.). So, again, most likely Felix Feulicid is a descendant of a low-tier aristocratic family within the Diomedic language group. While Diomedic is the easternmost spoken of any Ezeric language, with the relocation of cultures in the modern era it wouldn't be unacceptable for him to be living in a more western country.

Bastard names for the win.

Just to be clear, bastardisation means that it was corrupted over time so that it doesn't sound like the original.

I just have to say that this rp has given me the biggest headaches Ive had in my life. Its a great way to start my morn. Its beautiful how in depth this is going to be.

So if the equivalent to Slavic languages are dead in this universe, does that mean Slavic surnames aren't differentiated by gender? Which would mean my character's surname would change from Novotna to Novotny if that were the case.

Damn... Still haven't been assigned....

For the history of the conflict, perhaps Ante-something and Precambrian used to be very loose confederations of small states and duchies, more like alliances than actual countries. The more powerful and large duchies annexed smaller ones, eventually causing the two countries to become more powerful and united as a whole. Something, perhaps conflicts over land, resources, or trade routes, caused (maybe in 1880-90s?) the numerous border clashes that gradually grew worse, eventually becoming the current endless war. Just an idea.

Grenartia wrote:

Transoxthraxia wrote:Indeed. What I think Felix, or Latin in general, is represented by is the dead Cyric branch of the Reuelic group. However, Cyric and Diomedic are often grouped as the same language (Differing simply on place names and personal names, as well as geographic location), so while Cyric has been dead for a few centuries, it wouldn't be crazy to think that someone descended from a Diomedic speaker would bear the name Felix. As for the last name, Feulicid sounds like the bastardization of Felixid, or "Of Felix", a dynastic name often reserved for royalty (Notably the Of ______ prefix.). So, again, most likely Felix Feulicid is a descendant of a low-tier aristocratic family within the Diomedic language group. While Diomedic is the easternmost spoken of any Ezeric language, with the relocation of cultures in the modern era it wouldn't be unacceptable for him to be living in a more western country.

Can you do Solana Vionde?

I think I'll try my hand at this.

Solana is pretty straightforward: it sounds to me like Latin "sol" (sun) + "-anus" (-ian) in the feminine form, meaning "pertaining to the sun".

Vionde is a bit harder, but it, too, sounds Latinesque to me, so I'll go with that. Now, "via" means "road", "way", or "path", and "unde" means "whence" or "from where". /a/ + /u/ often fuse into /o/, so realistically, "via" (road) + "unde" (from where) = "vionde". As for meaning, it could mean that the first person who held the name could have moved to an area from an unknown location, or that they lived by a road, among other things.

Gvozdevsk wrote:So if the equivalent to Slavic languages are dead in this universe, does that mean Slavic surnames aren't differentiated by gender? Which would mean my character's surname would change from Novotna to Novotny if that were the case.

I think you're at liberty on this one, but know that Slavic languages haven't been around for about four millennia now, so their surnames would probably have been Germanized quite a bit, perhaps dropping the surname gender change entirely. But then again, that's up to you. I don't want to constrain you guys too much.

Nature-Spirits wrote:

Grenartia wrote:
Can you do Solana Vionde?

I think I'll try my hand at this.

Solana is pretty straightforward: it sounds to me like Latin "sol" (sun) + "-anus" (-ian) in the feminine form, meaning "pertaining to the sun".

Vionde is a bit harder, but it, too, sounds Latinesque to me, so I'll go with that. Now, "via" means "road", "way", or "path", and "unde" means "whence" or "from where". /a/ + /u/ often fuse into /o/, so realistically, "via" (road) + "unde" (from where) = "vionde". As for meaning, it could mean that the first person who held the name could have moved to an area from an unknown location, or that they lived by a road, among other things.

That's... Extremely impressive. But aside from deciphering the Latin, I'd assign this as well to the Cyric/Diomedic group. But keep in mind that, in the past incarnations of Precambria (politically, at least.) Diomedic was used as an official and administrative language before the newer Precambrian states started stomping the language into extinction. So since its Diomedic or Diomedic/Cyric derived (Solana at least), off of the first name, I'd say that she's descended from a Diomedic family.

But that decision would be turned around by her surname, which is really what matters (Emilia in Latvian is Emilija, and English and Latvian are about as far apart as you can get. Personal names don't really matter in the large scheme of linguistics, especially not in the modern world.). Vionde sounds like a romanticization of a Latin surname, but to simulate the bastardization/romanticization as mentioned before, I'd assume that she may have initially been descended from a Diomedic/Cyric family, they would most likely have been a part of Precambrian bureaucracy at one point long ago, and relocated to the more western parts of the nation, where they would have, to some extent, become Caiophic, which then turned into Symean.

So I'd bet my money on Solana Vionde hailing from the central/western part of Cambria or the far-eastern part of Antidiluvia, though her family initially coming from the more Eastern parts of the nation centuries ago.

So the languages so far in comparison to it in real life

Modern Nahumic- A sort of french, maybe latin, derived english

High Nahumic- More French, Latiny

Highlands Thorn- Germany German

Lowlands Thorn- Dutch with a bit of Slavic thrown into the mix.

Nature-Spirits wrote:

Grenartia wrote:
Can you do Solana Vionde?

I think I'll try my hand at this.

Solana is pretty straightforward: it sounds to me like Latin "sol" (sun) + "-anus" (-ian) in the feminine form, meaning "pertaining to the sun".

Vionde is a bit harder, but it, too, sounds Latinesque to me, so I'll go with that. Now, "via" means "road", "way", or "path", and "unde" means "whence" or "from where". /a/ + /u/ often fuse into /o/, so realistically, "via" (road) + "unde" (from where) = "vionde". As for meaning, it could mean that the first person who held the name could have moved to an area from an unknown location, or that they lived by a road, among other things.

Could you do Miko Bjali? Both Slovakian, so Slavic-equivalent, unfortunately. Last name was bastardised.

Glorious Rebublic of Alevstan wrote:

Nature-Spirits wrote:I think I'll try my hand at this.

Solana is pretty straightforward: it sounds to me like Latin "sol" (sun) + "-anus" (-ian) in the feminine form, meaning "pertaining to the sun".

Vionde is a bit harder, but it, too, sounds Latinesque to me, so I'll go with that. Now, "via" means "road", "way", or "path", and "unde" means "whence" or "from where". /a/ + /u/ often fuse into /o/, so realistically, "via" (road) + "unde" (from where) = "vionde". As for meaning, it could mean that the first person who held the name could have moved to an area from an unknown location, or that they lived by a road, among other things.

Could you do Miko Bjali? Both Slovakian, so Slavic-equivalent, unfortunately. Last name was bastardised.

Well, probably the easiest to germanize is Czech, slovakian, and polish.

Jesus Christ you guys are going into excruciating detail in what I thought was going to be a fairly straightforward RP...

Ayreonia wrote:-Snip-

Transoxthraxia wrote:-Snip-

Transoxthraxia wrote:-Snippity-

Glorious Rebublic of Alevstan wrote:-Snip-

In regards to these, wouldn't it be better to, say, create a separate Worldbuilding thread? It'd certainly make the thread a bit less cluttered for Ayre, and it'd make it a lot easier to navigate if we're going to go into such specifics over relatively complex details like linguistics, religion, and history.

Transoxthraxia wrote:

Nature-Spirits wrote:I think I'll try my hand at this.

Solana is pretty straightforward: it sounds to me like Latin "sol" (sun) + "-anus" (-ian) in the feminine form, meaning "pertaining to the sun".

Vionde is a bit harder, but it, too, sounds Latinesque to me, so I'll go with that. Now, "via" means "road", "way", or "path", and "unde" means "whence" or "from where". /a/ + /u/ often fuse into /o/, so realistically, "via" (road) + "unde" (from where) = "vionde". As for meaning, it could mean that the first person who held the name could have moved to an area from an unknown location, or that they lived by a road, among other things.

That's... Extremely impressive. But aside from deciphering the Latin, I'd assign this as well to the Cyric/Diomedic group. But keep in mind that, in the past incarnations of Precambria (politically, at least.) Diomedic was used as an official and administrative language before the newer Precambrian states started stomping the language into extinction. So since its Diomedic or Diomedic/Cyric derived (Solana at least), off of the first name, I'd say that she's descended from a Diomedic family.

But that decision would be turned around by her surname, which is really what matters (Emilia in Latvian is Emilija, and English and Latvian are about as far apart as you can get. Personal names don't really matter in the large scheme of linguistics, especially not in the modern world.). Vionde sounds like a romanticization of a Latin surname, but to simulate the bastardization/romanticization as mentioned before, I'd assume that she may have initially been descended from a Diomedic/Cyric family, they would most likely have been a part of Precambrian bureaucracy at one point long ago, and relocated to the more western parts of the nation, where they would have, to some extent, become Caiophic, which then turned into Symean.

So I'd bet my money on Solana Vionde hailing from the central/western part of Cambria or the far-eastern part of Antidiluvia, though her family initially coming from the more Eastern parts of the nation centuries ago.

Yes, I can tell that we will become very good friends.

The Carlisle wrote:So the languages so far in comparison to it in real life

Modern Nahumic- A sort of french, maybe latin, derived english

High Nahumic- More French, Latiny

Highlands Thorn- Germany German

Lowlands Thorn- Dutch with a bit of Slavic thrown into the mix.

I'll summarise what Trans TGed me for you.

Modern Nahumic: Basically, it's English. However, while RL English is Germanic-based with significant Romantic influence, this is (the equivalent of) Romance-based with significant Germanic influence.

High Nahumic: Sort of like this world's equivalent to Ecclesiastical Latin (i.e. the Latin spoken by the Catholic Church), or perhaps more like Late Latin.

Highlands Thorn: Basically, it's like the languages spoken by the Germanic tribes of the British Isles before the Normal invasion.

Lowlands Thorn: Basically, it's German with some Slavic names (but there's very little actual Slavic influence on the language).

There are also a few others, but our characters are much less likely to be acquainted with them.

Glorious Rebublic of Alevstan wrote:

Nature-Spirits wrote:I think I'll try my hand at this.

Solana is pretty straightforward: it sounds to me like Latin "sol" (sun) + "-anus" (-ian) in the feminine form, meaning "pertaining to the sun".

Vionde is a bit harder, but it, too, sounds Latinesque to me, so I'll go with that. Now, "via" means "road", "way", or "path", and "unde" means "whence" or "from where". /a/ + /u/ often fuse into /o/, so realistically, "via" (road) + "unde" (from where) = "vionde". As for meaning, it could mean that the first person who held the name could have moved to an area from an unknown location, or that they lived by a road, among other things.

Could you do Miko Bjali? Both Slovakian, so Slavic-equivalent, unfortunately. Last name was bastardised.

Sure! I'll get to work on that.
I may not have the final result up until tomorrow, though, because it's getting late here.

Esconelle wrote:Jesus Christ you guys are going into excruciating detail in what I thought was going to be a fairly straightforward RP...

Ayreonia wrote:-Snip-

Transoxthraxia wrote:-Snip-

Transoxthraxia wrote:-Snippity-

Glorious Rebublic of Alevstan wrote:-Snip-

In regards to these, wouldn't it be better to, say, create a separate Worldbuilding thread? It'd certainly make the thread a bit less cluttered for Ayre, and it'd make it a lot easier to navigate if we're going to go into such specifics over relatively complex details like linguistics, religion, and history.

We're dedicated.

Nature-Spirits wrote:

Transoxthraxia wrote:
That's... Extremely impressive. But aside from deciphering the Latin, I'd assign this as well to the Cyric/Diomedic group. But keep in mind that, in the past incarnations of Precambria (politically, at least.) Diomedic was used as an official and administrative language before the newer Precambrian states started stomping the language into extinction. So since its Diomedic or Diomedic/Cyric derived (Solana at least), off of the first name, I'd say that she's descended from a Diomedic family.

But that decision would be turned around by her surname, which is really what matters (Emilia in Latvian is Emilija, and English and Latvian are about as far apart as you can get. Personal names don't really matter in the large scheme of linguistics, especially not in the modern world.). Vionde sounds like a romanticization of a Latin surname, but to simulate the bastardization/romanticization as mentioned before, I'd assume that she may have initially been descended from a Diomedic/Cyric family, they would most likely have been a part of Precambrian bureaucracy at one point long ago, and relocated to the more western parts of the nation, where they would have, to some extent, become Caiophic, which then turned into Symean.

So I'd bet my money on Solana Vionde hailing from the central/western part of Cambria or the far-eastern part of Antidiluvia, though her family initially coming from the more Eastern parts of the nation centuries ago.

Yes, I can tell that we will become very good friends.

The Carlisle wrote:So the languages so far in comparison to it in real life

Modern Nahumic- A sort of french, maybe latin, derived english

High Nahumic- More French, Latiny

Highlands Thorn- Germany German

Lowlands Thorn- Dutch with a bit of Slavic thrown into the mix.

I'll summarise what Trans TGed me for you.

Modern Nahumic: Basically, it's English. However, while RL English is Germanic-based with significant Romantic influence, this is (the equivalent of) Romance-based with significant Germanic influence.

High Nahumic: Sort of like this world's equivalent to Ecclesiastical Latin (i.e. the Latin spoken by the Catholic Church), or perhaps more like Late Latin.

Highlands Thorn: Basically, it's like the languages spoken by the Germanic tribes of the British Isles before the Normal invasion.

Lowlands Thorn: Basically, it's German with some Slavic names (but there's very little actual Slavic influence on the language).

There are also a few others, but our characters are much less likely to be acquainted with them.

Glorious Rebublic of Alevstan wrote:Could you do Miko Bjali? Both Slovakian, so Slavic-equivalent, unfortunately. Last name was bastardised.

Sure! I'll get to work on that.
I may not have the final result up until tomorrow, though, because it's getting late here.

Esconelle wrote:Jesus Christ you guys are going into excruciating detail in what I thought was going to be a fairly straightforward RP...









In regards to these, wouldn't it be better to, say, create a separate Worldbuilding thread? It'd certainly make the thread a bit less cluttered for Ayre, and it'd make it a lot easier to navigate if we're going to go into such specifics over relatively complex details like linguistics, religion, and history.

We're dedicated.

Cool. Thinking about it, my second character Lillian Skarbek is more understandable. Skarbek is a polish name that is anglicized. Lillian is a latin derived english name. So she could be a Lowland Thor who's family is heavily Ezericized, but has roots in the old Vyorony culture.

Name: Fiqri Aji Tantoro
Age: 29
Sex/gender: Male (M or F will suffice. Elaborate if needed.)

Rank: Liutenant
Years of service: 13 (If first tour, leave empty.)
Civilian occupation: chief Corporate Operations
Nobility: His father was a well-known entrepreneur wise, and his mother was a rich kid who is very generous (Also state rank. If not applicable, leave empty.)

Preferred role: Riflemen, Medic, Marksman, Platoon Leaders (List up to three in order of preference.)
Preferred squad/platoon: 2st Platoon (If none, leave empty.)

Appearance: Fiqri (Description or photo, optional.)

Name: Carl "Coalface" Hickin
Age: 21
Sex/gender: M
Rank: Sergeant
Years of service: 3
Civilian occupation: Coal Miner
Nobility: Nope

Preferred role: Mortar team leader.
Preferred squad/platoon: Mortar section -- Werebear One Delta

Appearance:

Galter Gulcher wrote:Name: Carl "Coalface" Hickin
Age: 21
Sex/gender: M
Rank: Sergeant
Years of service: 4
Civilian occupation: Coal Miner
Nobility: Nope

Preferred role: Mortar team leader.
Preferred squad/platoon: Mortar section -- Werebear One Delta

Appearance:

(Image)

So that's why they call him "Coalface".

Kriegers wrote:

Galter Gulcher wrote:Name: Carl "Coalface" Hickin
Age: 21
Sex/gender: M
Rank: Sergeant
Years of service: 4
Civilian occupation: Coal Miner
Nobility: Nope

Preferred role: Mortar team leader.
Preferred squad/platoon: Mortar section -- Werebear One Delta

Appearance:

(Image)

So that's why they call him "Coalface".

I question whether he ever washed his face at all.

Kriegers wrote:

Galter Gulcher wrote:Name: Carl "Coalface" Hickin
Age: 21
Sex/gender: M
Rank: Sergeant
Years of service: 4
Civilian occupation: Coal Miner
Nobility: Nope

Preferred role: Mortar team leader.
Preferred squad/platoon: Mortar section -- Werebear One Delta

Appearance:

(Image)

So that's why they call him "Coalface".

I can think of a few other reasons why... But let's go with yours!

Its not permanently like that! That picture was simply snapped when he was coming out of his mine, not his usual appearence!

But in any case, the reason he is called Coalface his because he is a Coal Miner, not because of his Appearance picture.

Galter Gulcher wrote:Its not permanently like that! That picture was simply snapped when he was coming out of his mine, not his usual appearence!

But in any case, the reason he is called Coalface his because he is a Coal Miner, not because of his Appearance picture.

It's okay. We accept your coal-coatedness. After all, I always wear a gas mask.

Galter Gulcher wrote:Its not permanently like that! That picture was simply snapped when he was coming out of his mine, not his usual appearence!

But in any case, the reason he is called Coalface his because he is a Coal Miner, not because of his Appearance picture.

I know. Just a little joke. My dad called my grandpa a raccoon the first time he met him because he worked in the coal mines and just got home with coal dust still on his face.

The Carlisle wrote:

Galter Gulcher wrote:Its not permanently like that! That picture was simply snapped when he was coming out of his mine, not his usual appearence!

But in any case, the reason he is called Coalface his because he is a Coal Miner, not because of his Appearance picture.

I know. Just a little joke. My dad called my grandpa a raccoon the first time he met him because he worked in the coal mines and just got home with coal dust still on his face.

Pennsylvanians?

Kriegers wrote:

The Carlisle wrote:I know. Just a little joke. My dad called my grandpa a raccoon the first time he met him because he worked in the coal mines and just got home with coal dust still on his face.

Pennsylvanians?

yeppers

The Carlisle wrote:

Kriegers wrote:Pennsylvanians?

yeppers

Ah. I once had a friend in a little town called Boiling Springs that was super hyped about hiking through the coal region whilst carrying a boombox.