NationStates

Mincaldenteans wrote:

Altito Asmoro wrote:
You don't need the entire war.

It could be just one of the conflicts happened earlier. Perhaps Antediluvian troops came across a recluse tribes who promptly attacked them for messing with their territories.

You'll likely need to develop the idea more to make it plausible, Alt. It's very... erratic, currently.

Nature-Spirits wrote:Here's the bit on queer people that I've been working on. I think that it may still need some work, but I figured I'd put it up here for people to comment and ask questions. Any feedback would be appreciated, so don't be afraid to be critical!

Ittul (sometimes called "tools" in Bastardised Nahumic) have their roots in the ancient beliefs of the Kamaian people, having been brought to Antediluvia and the West in general by the religions of Priya Rukmeni and Gammar Gammura. They are traditionally understood to be a third gender, and ittul can be born biologically male, female, or intersex. The traditionally defining feature of ittul is that they do not conform to gender and sexual norms: they may dress and act as male, female, androgynous, or any combination thereof, regardless of biological sex; and they may be attracted to any gender(s). More recently, different subsections within the ittul identity have emerged (the most common of which are homosexual and transgender); though while these are widely known to exist, they are still not fully understood by most of the population.

In popular belief, ittul are often considered to engage in practices and habits that traditionally correspond to the gender opposite to that they were assigned at birth, but many engage in both traditionally male and female activities and forms of expression, while others may present as the gender they were assigned at birth but take lovers of their own sex. All of these -- among others -- are traditionally defined as ittul.

In addition, ittul are often associated with being particularly gifted in a trade or -- especially in previous centuries -- in magic (though due to the stigma associated in Antediluvia with magic, the ittul community in general has tended to distance itself from it since the Technological Revolution). Communities that are still fairly religious (especially those in which the majority religion is Gammar Gammura) tend to recognise that the ittul have spiritual powers; as while most living beings are said to be made up of one "shard" each, an ittul is said to have two, giving them their unique gender/sexual roles and alleged connection to Uriyah. Many culture and folk heroes are also held to be ittul. However, ittul are not traditionally considered fit to serve as members of the clergy, though in recent decades some ittul have joined the clergy, and today there is practically no resistance to ittul as clergy except in fringe groups.

Despite -- or perhaps because of -- these beliefs, there is some prejudice against ittul among some people. Nobles, in particular, tend to discourage their children from being ittul, if only so that their children marry and produce an heir (though this is by no means a hard-and-fast rule). Additionally, people who are not of the Gammar Gammura religion may view it as unnatural. Sometimes, ittul are marginalised in their communities. Ittul are sometimes held to be vengeful if they perceive that they have been slighted, and more religious people may fear incurring divine wrath for insulting an ittul; exploiting this belief, some ittul make money through extortion, by saying that they will bless someone for money. This practice has seen a recent decline, however. Many ittul are also involved in the entertainment industry as singers and dancers.

Ayreonia wrote:

Nature-Spirits wrote:Here's the bit on queer people that I've been working on. I think that it may still need some work, but I figured I'd put it up here for people to comment and ask questions. Any feedback would be appreciated, so don't be afraid to be critical!

Ittul (sometimes called "tools" in Bastardised Nahumic) have their roots in the ancient beliefs of the Kamaian people, having been brought to Antediluvia and the West in general by the religions of Priya Rukmeni and Gammar Gammura. They are traditionally understood to be a third gender, and ittul can be born biologically male, female, or intersex. The traditionally defining feature of ittul is that they do not conform to gender and sexual norms: they may dress and act as male, female, androgynous, or any combination thereof, regardless of biological sex; and they may be attracted to any gender(s). More recently, different subsections within the ittul identity have emerged (the most common of which are homosexual and transgender); though while these are widely known to exist, they are still not fully understood by most of the population.

In popular belief, ittul are often considered to engage in practices and habits that traditionally correspond to the gender opposite to that they were assigned at birth, but many engage in both traditionally male and female activities and forms of expression, while others may present as the gender they were assigned at birth but take lovers of their own sex. All of these -- among others -- are traditionally defined as ittul.

In addition, ittul are often associated with being particularly gifted in a trade or -- especially in previous centuries -- in magic (though due to the stigma associated in Antediluvia with magic, the ittul community in general has tended to distance itself from it since the Technological Revolution). Communities that are still fairly religious (especially those in which the majority religion is Gammar Gammura) tend to recognise that the ittul have spiritual powers; as while most living beings are said to be made up of one "shard" each, an ittul is said to have two, giving them their unique gender/sexual roles and alleged connection to Uriyah. Many culture and folk heroes are also held to be ittul. However, ittul are not traditionally considered fit to serve as members of the clergy, though in recent decades some ittul have joined the clergy, and today there is practically no resistance to ittul as clergy except in fringe groups.

Despite -- or perhaps because of -- these beliefs, there is some prejudice against ittul among some people. Nobles, in particular, tend to discourage their children from being ittul, if only so that their children marry and produce an heir (though this is by no means a hard-and-fast rule). Additionally, people who are not of the Gammar Gammura religion may view it as unnatural. Sometimes, ittul are marginalised in their communities. Ittul are sometimes held to be vengeful if they perceive that they have been slighted, and more religious people may fear incurring divine wrath for insulting an ittul; exploiting this belief, some ittul make money through extortion, by saying that they will bless someone for money. This practice has seen a recent decline, however. Many ittul are also involved in the entertainment industry as singers and dancers.

If they're considered to be more spiritually attuned, why the rarity of ittul clergy?

Nature-Spirits wrote:

Ayreonia wrote:I'll add the shit out of that county in my next update.

As for alphabet, you have ultimate control.

The seasons are normal, given that Soil is the size of Earth, and the year is 365 days. By GoT-style winters, I was describing the harshness and impact of it. Really cold, craploads of snow, and everyone just huddles inside.

Right.

In that case, here's the updated phonetic alphabet:

Prescribed Radiotelephony Phonetic Alphabet (also known as the RAA Phonetic Alphabet)

A - Altaflor
B - Boy
C - Crávis
D - Duke
E - Eleanor
F - Flower
G - Godfrey
H - Honora
I - Idony
J - Joscelin
K - King
L - Linvale
M - Magnus
N - Norton
O - Oorburg
P - Prudence
Q - Queen
R - Rialto
S - Sayshel
T - Talbot
Th - Thorn
U - Ursela
V - Verstact
W - Winstor
X - Axe
Y - Yvon
Z - Zoe

The only thing that's changed is the way "T" is said (Talbot) and the addition of "Th" (which is now Thorn).

Nature-Spirits wrote:

Ayreonia wrote:I'm going to need names for the Precambrian cities near our division, as well as for the nearby rivers.

If you'd like, I could come up with some linguistically-probable names later (given the language the Precambrians speak).
Alternatively, if someone else (e.g. Gren) came up with some names, I or Trans could give them Precambrian names later and say that the names we're using are the ones given to them by the Antediluvians.

The Carlisle wrote:So this is a question I put up in the official OOC.

Are there any darker skinned "races" in the world? I mean, I notice that all of the characters are lighter-skinned. I mean, that is probably because of selection bias. But really, not one? I'm just wondering how this is effecting the lore. Do they exist? If they do, are they an extreme minority in Antidiluvia? Where do they originate? From existing lore, it is obvious that the southern continents are more Europeanesque than anything else.

What do y'all think?

The Carlisle wrote:So this is a question I put up in the official OOC.

Are there any darker skinned "races" in the world? I mean, I notice that all of the characters are lighter-skinned. I mean, that is probably because of selection bias. But really, not one? I'm just wondering how this is effecting the lore. Do they exist? If they do, are they an extreme minority in Antidiluvia? Where do they originate? From existing lore, it is obvious that the southern continents are more Europeanesque than anything else.

What do y'all think?

Nature-Spirits wrote:

The Carlisle wrote:So this is a question I put up in the official OOC.

Are there any darker skinned "races" in the world? I mean, I notice that all of the characters are lighter-skinned. I mean, that is probably because of selection bias. But really, not one? I'm just wondering how this is effecting the lore. Do they exist? If they do, are they an extreme minority in Antidiluvia? Where do they originate? From existing lore, it is obvious that the southern continents are more Europeanesque than anything else.

What do y'all think?

Hmm. Well, I imagine that in the north, there would be some darker-skinned Hengistic and Ezeric people. Most people in the south would be pretty white, though.

The United Remnants of America wrote:

Nature-Spirits wrote:Hmm. Well, I imagine that in the north, there would be some darker-skinned Hengistic and Ezeric people. Most people in the south would be pretty white, though.

I disagree. I think the world is too cold globally for a darker skin ethnicity to even develop, let alone survive. There would have been no reason for it.

EDIT: Unless this world has a thinner O-zone/magnetosphere/whatever to allow higher amounts of UV rays to enter, despite the planet's apparent distance from the Sun, allowing the possibility of a darker-skinned race of people near the equatorial band.

Nature-Spirits wrote:

The United Remnants of America wrote:I disagree. I think the world is too cold globally for a darker skin ethnicity to even develop, let alone survive. There would have been no reason for it.

EDIT: Unless this world has a thinner O-zone/magnetosphere/whatever to allow higher amounts of UV rays to enter, despite the planet's apparent distance from the Sun, allowing the possibility of a darker-skinned race of people near the equatorial band.

Well, IIRC some areas in the north of Antediluvia are tropical. And I'm pretty sure that towards the beginning it was determined that Soil is, aside from the different geography and cultures and presence of magic, analogous to Earth.