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How should we start the IC?

The platoon has just been formed, people don't know each other.
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The platoon is deployed so there's some burgeoning camaraderie, but mostly among those who are already friends from the home front.
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We've seen combat together: everybody knows everybody.
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Postby Pan Asian Amercian Coalition » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:49 pm

Wait, are we fighting the Precambrians or the Antidelvuians? I'm confused.

Also, for the forest mutants and stuff, we should use animals from those eras. Fighting sentient sea fans and flying fucking Laggania.

And holy shit, Trans. Thats finals essay lel material.
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Postby The GAmeTopians » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:50 pm

Pan Asian Amercian Coalition wrote:Wait, are we fighting the Precambrians or the Antidelvuians? I'm confused.

Also, for the forest mutants and stuff, we should use animals from those eras. Fighting sentient sea fans and flying fucking Laggania.

And holy shit, Trans. Thats finals essay lel material.

We're the antidelvuians.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:54 pm

Dear god that was huge. So the horselords conquered all. Sounds like the dothraki but instead of just killing raping and enslaving they also taught them the alphabet :p .

Also, nothing on the mountain folk? Or are we to assume the same thing happened?
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:56 pm

The Carlisle wrote:Dear god that was huge. So the horselords conquered all. Sounds like the dothraki but instead of just killing raping and enslaving they also taught them the alphabet :p .

Also, nothing on the mountain folk? Or are we to assume the same thing happened?

Well, eh. They're not like the Mongols or their fictional equivalents because unlike the Mongols they left a lasting impact on their regions, and actually settled there. As for the mountain folk, they're going to represent the reason why there's so many Germano-Slavic names within the army. I just need some time to do 'em.
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Postby Palonitr and Howland » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:58 pm

That was some beautiful shit right there. Okay I'm determined now ro help with the world building. Such beauty in this world. I think im moist. Okay who wants to partner up with me to create the modern history of our yet unamed world?

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Postby Glorious ReBublic of Alevstan » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:59 pm

Nice language writeup.

Also, yay, finally put into a squad.

Edit: Beautiful placeholder names for the HQ.
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Postby Gvozdevsk » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:00 pm

I just realized we have what appears to be two Slavs in Charlie squad. Cheeki breeki squad?

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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:00 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:Dear god that was huge. So the horselords conquered all. Sounds like the dothraki but instead of just killing raping and enslaving they also taught them the alphabet :p .

Also, nothing on the mountain folk? Or are we to assume the same thing happened?

Well, eh. They're not like the Mongols or their fictional equivalents because unlike the Mongols they left a lasting impact on their regions, and actually settled there. As for the mountain folk, they're going to represent the reason why there's so many Germano-Slavic names within the army. I just need some time to do 'em.

Well, the mongols did have a lasting impact. The Yuan dynasty (also the chinese currency), the pony express, and free protected trade throughout a vast empire. Literally no one wanted to be a bandit in a mongol legacy country.

So sort of like mongols except they maybe did a lot more.

Also, I can help you with the mountain folks' language.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:01 pm

The Carlisle wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Well, eh. They're not like the Mongols or their fictional equivalents because unlike the Mongols they left a lasting impact on their regions, and actually settled there. As for the mountain folk, they're going to represent the reason why there's so many Germano-Slavic names within the army. I just need some time to do 'em.

Well, the mongols did have a lasting impact. The Yuan dynasty (also the chinese currency), the pony express, and free protected trade throughout a vast empire. Literally no one wanted to be a bandit in a mongol legacy country.

So sort of like mongols except they maybe did a lot more.

Also, I can help you with the mountain folks' language.

Eh. Anyone speaking Mongolian in the Crimea now?

(Points gun non-chalantly towards the Crimean Tatar, who is bound and gagged, in the corner.)

As for the Mountain folks, you're more than welcome to help with the history, let me finish the tree first and I'll TG it to you.
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Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:02 pm

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Grenartia wrote:Can you give me some names for the country to the west of Antediluvia, and one for the country to the east of Precambria?

The western one could be Erathemon, the eastern one... Reioni.

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Nature-Spirits wrote:Trans, that is beautiful.

What did I say? I can into language.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:07 pm

So erathemon is the origin of Ezeric languages? Also, not really important story wise, but what replaced Ezeric in erathemon?
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:10 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Trans, that is beautiful.

What did I say? I can into language.

So just to clarify: Ezeric is comparable to Indo-European in that it has overtaken much of the area, Thornorgisil is the root of the Germanic- and Slavic-sounding names, and the as-of-yet unnamed language family is another family native to the continent, yes?
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:11 pm

The Carlisle wrote:So erathemon is the origin of Ezeric languages? Also, not really important story wise, but what replaced Ezeric in erathemon?

Erathemon is the Western Isle?

It was never really replaced - the left-most part of the Ezeric tree are the languages that were once spoken on Erathemon (Haggaic). But Erathemon faced a serious depopulation issue during a large portion of their history, as well as political dominance from the mainland, which allowed the Nahumic languages to slowly subsume or syncretize themselves with the native Haggaic dialects. So now, most of the island speaks Achavic, which is a fusion between Modern Nahumic and the older Haggaic language of Benaihic, which is mutually intelligible with both Modern Nahumic and Benaihic, but anyone speaking High Nahumic wouldn't really understand someone speaking Achavic.

Benaihic itself is still alive as a language but is really only spoken natively by a few thousand, mostly in the northwestern parts of the isle.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:12 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:What did I say? I can into language.

So just to clarify: Ezeric is comparable to Indo-European in that it has overtaken much of the area, Thornorgisil is the root of the Germanic- and Slavic-sounding names, and the as-of-yet unnamed language family is another family native to the continent, yes?

Si.

Well, close on the Thornorgisil. Thornorgisil is notably German only - they subsumed another culture that will be the equivalent of the Slavic culture, and kept a number of place names, personal names, and surnames, most of which died out, but a few survive until today.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:13 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:So erathemon is the origin of Ezeric languages? Also, not really important story wise, but what replaced Ezeric in erathemon?

Erathemon is the Western Isle?

It was never really replaced - the left-most part of the Ezeric tree are the languages that were once spoken on Erathemon (Haggaic). But Erathemon faced a serious depopulation issue during a large portion of their history, as well as political dominance from the mainland, which allowed the Nahumic languages to slowly subsume or syncretize themselves with the native Haggaic dialects. So now, most of the island speaks Achavic, which is a fusion between Modern Nahumic and the older Haggaic language of Benaihic, which is mutually intelligible with both Modern Nahumic and Benaihic, but anyone speaking High Nahumic wouldn't really understand someone speaking Achavic.

Benaihic itself is still alive as a language but is really only spoken natively by a few thousand, mostly in the northwestern parts of the isle.

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:14 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:So just to clarify: Ezeric is comparable to Indo-European in that it has overtaken much of the area, Thornorgisil is the root of the Germanic- and Slavic-sounding names, and the as-of-yet unnamed language family is another family native to the continent, yes?

Si.

Well, close on the Thornorgisil. Thornorgisil is notably German only - they subsumed another culture that will be the equivalent of the Slavic culture, and kept a number of place names, personal names, and surnames, most of which died out, but a few survive until today.

Got it. Do we still need a name for the Slavic-equivalent family?
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:16 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Si.

Well, close on the Thornorgisil. Thornorgisil is notably German only - they subsumed another culture that will be the equivalent of the Slavic culture, and kept a number of place names, personal names, and surnames, most of which died out, but a few survive until today.

Got it. Do we still need a name for the Slavic-equivalent family?

I'll come up with one, yeah.

EDIT: Actually, I think I won't make a tree for the Slavs. I'll make it be one of those "cultures", i.e the Kurgan Culture, the Lescaux Cave Culture, etc. They disappeared so early on in prehistory that we have no visible traces or examples of their language, but there are certain names in the Thornorgisil branch that are so un-Thorn that linguists theorize there must have been an earlier culture that was subsumed by the Thornorgisil.
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Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:23 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Got it. Do we still need a name for the Slavic-equivalent family?

I'll come up with one, yeah.

EDIT: Actually, I think I won't make a tree for the Slavs. I'll make it be one of those "cultures", i.e the Kurgan Culture, the Lescaux Cave Culture, etc. They disappeared so early on in prehistory that we have no visible traces or examples of their language, but there are certain names in the Thornorgisil branch that are so un-Thorn that linguists theorize there must have been an earlier culture that was subsumed by the Thornorgisil.

That sounds good to me.

How far along are you with the religion? If we're still going to say that the Antediluvian religion ultimately comes from the ethnic group belonging to the other language family, we could tie together the name of the language family with religious names.
And where are we saying the Precambrian religion originated? The Thornorgisil seem like a good option, since it seems like they relied a lot on agriculture and the Precambrian religion is comparable to Gaianism.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:31 pm

Palonitr and Howland wrote:Nature and trans. Are you both also working on modern antediluvian and precambrian history?

I'm not. I don't know about Trans; our discussion has mostly been about linguistics.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:35 pm

I'll help, seeing as my character is directly influenced by the history of the nation. I could handle the mountain folk.

Also, there are three duchies. Does that make the duchies huge? And how is the nation split up aristocratically? If ya don't know, I can help with that.

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Postby Palonitr and Howland » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:38 pm

The Carlisle wrote:I'll help, seeing as my character is directly influenced by the history of the nation. I could handle the mountain folk.

Also, there are three duchies. Does that make the duchies huge? And how is the nation split up aristocratically? If ya don't know, I can help with that.

In fact, I volunteer to help with the history of the world.

Would the three duchies contain counts and barons or are they all independent from each other?

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:42 pm

The Carlisle wrote:I'll help, seeing as my character is directly influenced by the history of the nation. I could handle the mountain folk.

Also, there are three duchies. Does that make the duchies huge? And how is the nation split up aristocratically? If ya don't know, I can help with that.

In fact, I volunteer to help with the history of the world.

I don't think Ayreo meant that there are only three duchies; I think he meant that those were the only three he's named.
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