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Black Market system?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:19 pm

Yes
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No
5
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possibly
4
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Total votes : 25

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Of The Rnclave
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:45 am

Elepis wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
Put up a bid to join NATO, or the SATO, I can Porte you then


But Tibet is neither in the north or in the Atlantic, or Md, or any sea for that matter. And how will you protect an underpopulated, under-resourced country against a great power that almost completely surrounds it and has the largest and one of the best equipped armies in the world?


By bringing the most advanced and strongest army to it and threatening China with closing off trade?

Also, China's military doctrine is chalked up to overwhelming he enemy force, my army would annihilate them in straight combat
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Postby Elepis » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:53 am

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Elepis wrote:
But Tibet is neither in the north or in the Atlantic, or Md, or any sea for that matter. And how will you protect an underpopulated, under-resourced country against a great power that almost completely surrounds it and has the largest and one of the best equipped armies in the world?


By bringing the most advanced and strongest army to it and threatening China with closing off trade?

Also, China's military doctrine is chalked up to overwhelming he enemy force, my army would annihilate them in straight combat


The USA would never attack China, that is like the UK attack France. Also Chinese doctrines have modernized since the 80's.
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Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Of The Rnclave
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:56 am

Elepis wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
By bringing the most advanced and strongest army to it and threatening China with closing off trade?

Also, China's military doctrine is chalked up to overwhelming he enemy force, my army would annihilate them in straight combat


The USA would never attack China, that is like the UK attack France. Also Chinese doctrines have modernized since the 80's.


Yeah, they have, but they still use that doctrine, their tech is around 30 years behind the USA's. And the last 20 so years has been about a China-USA war, China wants to challenge the USA
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Australian Antarctica
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:56 am

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Elepis wrote:
But Tibet is neither in the north or in the Atlantic, or Md, or any sea for that matter. And how will you protect an underpopulated, under-resourced country against a great power that almost completely surrounds it and has the largest and one of the best equipped armies in the world?


By bringing the most advanced and strongest army to it and threatening China with closing off trade?

Also, China's military doctrine is chalked up to overwhelming he enemy force, my army would annihilate them in straight combat

And mine would eliminate his in guerrilla warfare. So, Can you help me america?
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Of The Rnclave
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:58 am

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
By bringing the most advanced and strongest army to it and threatening China with closing off trade?

Also, China's military doctrine is chalked up to overwhelming he enemy force, my army would annihilate them in straight combat

And mine would eliminate his in guerrilla warfare. So, Can you help me america?


Sure, message me about joining Th South Asian Treaty Organization, and I'll start selling you decommissioned equipment from the 70s-80s so you CNA advance a little
What don't you understand? I CAN'T DIE!
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:01 am

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:And mine would eliminate his in guerrilla warfare. So, Can you help me america?


Sure, message me about joining Th South Asian Treaty Organization, and I'll start selling you decommissioned equipment from the 70s-80s so you CNA advance a little

That won't help at all. Plus, I am not in the south pacific.
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Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
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Of The Rnclave
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:04 am

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
Sure, message me about joining Th South Asian Treaty Organization, and I'll start selling you decommissioned equipment from the 70s-80s so you CNA advance a little

That won't help at all. Plus, I am not in the south pacific.


Compared to the crappy equipment you have now? It'll help a lot
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:05 am

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:That won't help at all. Plus, I am not in the south pacific.


Compared to the crappy equipment you have now? It'll help a lot

We are armed well enough for Guerrilla combat.
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Licata
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Postby Licata » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:14 am

Elepis wrote:
Licata wrote:
The State will be Fascistic, the Syndicates will be crazy Capitalists. I am also going to sell off my military to the syndicates. The syndicates will also have voting power. Oh, and shadow wars. He he


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Postby New Jordslag » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:15 am

Elepis wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
By bringing the most advanced and strongest army to it and threatening China with closing off trade?

Also, China's military doctrine is chalked up to overwhelming he enemy force, my army would annihilate them in straight combat


The USA would never attack China, that is like the UK attack France. Also Chinese doctrines have modernized since the 80's.

Different Presidency, Different Timeline.

In fact, the USA doesn't even have to fight. They can make China collapse just by cutting off trade. Bam. Destroyed China.
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Licata
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Postby Licata » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:18 am

New Jordslag wrote:
Elepis wrote:
The USA would never attack China, that is like the UK attack France. Also Chinese doctrines have modernized since the 80's.

Different Presidency, Different Timeline.

In fact, the USA doesn't even have to fight. They can make China collapse just by cutting off trade. Bam. Destroyed China.


But then again the US would face a growth in terrorism and they would also stop receiving their most valuable resource; cheap plastic toys.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:19 am

Licata wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Different Presidency, Different Timeline.

In fact, the USA doesn't even have to fight. They can make China collapse just by cutting off trade. Bam. Destroyed China.


But then again the US would face a growth in terrorism and they would also stop receiving their most valuable resource; cheap plastic toys.

True.
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Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
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Of The Rnclave
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:19 am

Licata wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Different Presidency, Different Timeline.

In fact, the USA doesn't even have to fight. They can make China collapse just by cutting off trade. Bam. Destroyed China.


But then again the US would face a growth in terrorism and they would also stop receiving their most valuable resource; cheap plastic toys.


Oh my gosh what ever shall I do? It's not like I don't have thousands of factories ready to do the same thing
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:21 am

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Licata wrote:
But then again the US would face a growth in terrorism and they would also stop receiving their most valuable resource; cheap plastic toys.


Oh my gosh what ever shall I do? It's not like I don't have thousands of factories ready to do the same thing

True.
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Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
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Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
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New Jordslag
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Postby New Jordslag » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:22 am

Licata wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Different Presidency, Different Timeline.

In fact, the USA doesn't even have to fight. They can make China collapse just by cutting off trade. Bam. Destroyed China.


But then again the US would face a growth in terrorism and they would also stop receiving their most valuable resource; cheap plastic toys.

The Collapse of China does not make more Terrorism on the US. And the US has thousands of factories ready to do all of the stuff China does.

China quite literally can't afford to disagree with the US.
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New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:23 am

New Jordslag wrote:
Licata wrote:
But then again the US would face a growth in terrorism and they would also stop receiving their most valuable resource; cheap plastic toys.

The Collapse of China does not make more Terrorism on the US. And the US has thousands of factories ready to do all of the stuff China does.

China quite literally can't afford to disagree with the US.

Can I have a British and American Alliance?
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Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Protector Galactics
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Postby Protector Galactics » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:24 am

Elepis wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
Put up a bid to join NATO, or the SATO, I can Porte you then


But Tibet is neither in the north or in the Atlantic, or Md, or any sea for that matter. And how will you protect an underpopulated, under-resourced country against a great power that almost completely surrounds it and has the largest and one of the best equipped armies in the world?

Well no very well equipped if you get through my skin. But before I invade..... You might want to see the IC....
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Postby New Jordslag » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:24 am

Australian Antarctica wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:The Collapse of China does not make more Terrorism on the US. And the US has thousands of factories ready to do all of the stuff China does.

China quite literally can't afford to disagree with the US.

Can I have a British and American Alliance?

Sure. Just join the Commonwealth~ :twisted:
My favorite games are the Pokemon Games. Shoot me a TG if you want to talk about them.
Don't worry! It's all just a tall tale, okay?
Favorite Ecchi Fan of Lith and Self-Proclaimed Pokemon King of NS.
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


And somewhere in New York, Big Jim P gets a cold shudder down his spine.

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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:25 am

Protector Galactics wrote:
Elepis wrote:
But Tibet is neither in the north or in the Atlantic, or Md, or any sea for that matter. And how will you protect an underpopulated, under-resourced country against a great power that almost completely surrounds it and has the largest and one of the best equipped armies in the world?

Well no very well equipped if you get through my skin. But before I invade..... You might want to see the IC....

Are you calling me the aggressor???
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!

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Of The Rnclave
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:25 am

Australian Antarctica wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:The Collapse of China does not make more Terrorism on the US. And the US has thousands of factories ready to do all of the stuff China does.

China quite literally can't afford to disagree with the US.

Can I have a British and American Alliance?


Sure, if we both work together I can make you a counter balance
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Postby New Jordslag » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:25 am

Australian, read your posts. Little known fact: The VC actually had BETTER Equipment and Training then the American Army. Which says something about the state of the American Army at the time.
My favorite games are the Pokemon Games. Shoot me a TG if you want to talk about them.
Don't worry! It's all just a tall tale, okay?
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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


And somewhere in New York, Big Jim P gets a cold shudder down his spine.

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Protector Galactics
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Postby Protector Galactics » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:26 am

New Jordslag wrote:
Licata wrote:
But then again the US would face a growth in terrorism and they would also stop receiving their most valuable resource; cheap plastic toys.

The Collapse of China does not make more Terrorism on the US. And the US has thousands of factories ready to do all of the stuff China does.

China quite literally can't afford to disagree with the US.

I was waiting to post if the U.S cut trade..... Its a trap U.S ! :twisted: :lol2:
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Ballycolumbia
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Postby Ballycolumbia » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:26 am

Could I join this? If so, what major/interesting countries are remaining?
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:26 am

New Jordslag wrote:Australian, read your posts. Little known fact: The VC actually had BETTER Equipment and Training then the American Army. Which says something about the state of the American Army at the time.

How did the have better equipment?
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Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Postby Zatak » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:35 am

Ballycolumbia wrote:Could I join this? If so, what major/interesting countries are remaining?

France, Canada, spain, Poland, most of the ME....
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