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Postby Esternial » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:43 pm

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Esternial wrote:Well, this is now on my bucket list.

Don't bother - it's not too pleasant an experience.

That idea came as quickly as it went.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:49 pm

Also, Esty, I'll try to summarise recent events for you.

We defeated Uriel, Heaven became a new continent on Earth after it fell out of the sky, then we blew up the universe when a little girl nuked the moon and are attacking a tree.

Does that clear things up?
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:51 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Also, Esty, I'll try to summarise recent events for you.

We defeated Uriel, Heaven became a new continent on Earth after it fell out of the sky, then we blew up the universe when a little girl nuked the moon and are attacking a tree.

Does that clear things up?

And Bryan Cranston is there.

Except he's blind.

And a Titan.
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From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:52 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Also, Esty, I'll try to summarise recent events for you.

We defeated Uriel, Heaven became a new continent on Earth after it fell out of the sky, then we blew up the universe when a little girl nuked the moon and are attacking a tree.

Does that clear things up?


That always makes me smile.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:53 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Also, Esty, I'll try to summarise recent events for you.

We defeated Uriel, Heaven became a new continent on Earth after it fell out of the sky, then we blew up the universe when a little girl nuked the moon and are attacking a tree.

Does that clear things up?

And Bryan Cranston is there.

Except he's blind.

And a Titan.

Also, Charles Dance was Crowley's father.

And now Crowley's uncle is intent on ending everything. His uncle is also Charles Dance.
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Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:54 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:And Bryan Cranston is there.

Except he's blind.

And a Titan.

Also, Charles Dance was Crowley's father.

And now Crowley's uncle is intent on ending everything. His uncle is also Charles Dance.

And the Dances are a spaceship's baby.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:54 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Also, Charles Dance was Crowley's father.

And now Crowley's uncle is intent on ending everything. His uncle is also Charles Dance.

And the Dances are a spaceship's baby.

The thing is that none of this is false.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:58 pm

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Also, Esty, I'll try to summarise recent events for you.

We defeated Uriel, Heaven became a new continent on Earth after it fell out of the sky, then we blew up the universe when a little girl nuked the moon and are attacking a tree.

Does that clear things up?


That always makes me smile.

It was a brilliant thing.
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Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Esternial » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:19 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Also, Esty, I'll try to summarise recent events for you.

We defeated Uriel, Heaven became a new continent on Earth after it fell out of the sky, then we blew up the universe when a little girl nuked the moon and are attacking a tree.

Does that clear things up?

No. Yes. I mean no.

What always amazes me is how you all come up with these things. It's one of the reasons I'm considering specializing in neurotechnology.

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:20 pm

Iago's hatred for Othello is interesting.

He's passed over for a promotion, rumour has it that Othello is sleeping with his wife, and - perhaps the most obvious part - Othello is a black man. I don't think that it's entirely race, in fact, and I actually think that racism is the least of it. Two people that fight in battle together have a strong bond, and I think that Iago and Othello have that bond. Othello likes Iago, after all, and I think it's safe to say that Iago did like Othello. But I think there's a jealousy, fuelled by ambition and lust, that causes Iago to snap. Having been in a situation of jealousy and hate aimed towards a once-good friend, it's easy to use that in the monologue. Iago hates Othello because he has been betrayed, whether Othello meant to do that or not; it's how Iago sees the situation. And as the hatred grows, Iago finds ways to dehumanise Othello, to force himself to think Othello a lesser being. The easiest way is race. And Iago uses "Moor" as a racial slur to avoid even saying his former friend's name, because he isn't a human anymore, he's a beast. And the only good beast is a dead one.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:06 pm

Nude East Ireland wrote:Iago's hatred for Othello is interesting.

He's passed over for a promotion, rumour has it that Othello is sleeping with his wife, and - perhaps the most obvious part - Othello is a black man. I don't think that it's entirely race, in fact, and I actually think that racism is the least of it. Two people that fight in battle together have a strong bond, and I think that Iago and Othello have that bond. Othello likes Iago, after all, and I think it's safe to say that Iago did like Othello. But I think there's a jealousy, fuelled by ambition and lust, that causes Iago to snap. Having been in a situation of jealousy and hate aimed towards a once-good friend, it's easy to use that in the monologue. Iago hates Othello because he has been betrayed, whether Othello meant to do that or not; it's how Iago sees the situation. And as the hatred grows, Iago finds ways to dehumanise Othello, to force himself to think Othello a lesser being. The easiest way is race. And Iago uses "Moor" as a racial slur to avoid even saying his former friend's name, because he isn't a human anymore, he's a beast. And the only good beast is a dead one.

But all of that is bullshit.

Iago is a master manipulator - look at how easily he makes one of the most intelligent and powerful men in Italy his little bitch within a week. If Othello was sleeping with Emilia, it wouldn't be a question; he would know, no ifs, ands, or buts. You could argue he's lying to us, but he has no reason to, and in fact suggests that motive anyways.

Furthermore, to say Iago really gives a shit about his job is also tenuous. Quoth the raven, "Reputation is an idle and most false imposition; oft got without merit and lost without deserving". He outright dismisses his legacy and status as a reason to care. He can't possibly give a shit about money - he never mentions it, aside from extorting Roderigo in Act 1, I do believe. Which isn't really valid in relation to Othello. Iago can't really give a fuck about career advancement either, given as he killed his goddamn bosses, and admitted to it. It's completely inconsistent with his motives to suggest he cared about his job.

You could go with the angle that he originally cared about one of those things, but got blinded by jealously - but that's also bullshit, because like I said, he's an emotional mastermind. He recognizes things like jealously and rage; hell, that's all he does to Othello. No, if Iago knows it in Othello, he'd know it in himself. Such is his cunning that I find it really difficult to argue he doesn't know himself.

I think the reason Iago throws out racial shit at Othello is the same reason he throws out sexist shit at the women; it amuses him. And that's why I think he did it - it amuses him. It amuses him to make Othello kill. It amuses him to hurt the benevolent Cassio. It amuses him to destroy the innocence of Desdemona. It amuses him to torture his wife. And, most of all, it amuses him to lie, to lie to his peers, to his friends, and most of all, to us. He's constantly throwing out these motives and grand statements, only to contradict them later; the only commonality in all his rants is "I'm a lying little fucker, aren't I great?". Because it's game - not just life, the entire play. "I am not what I am".

You'll note also that Iago is the only person in the play to address the audience. And it's not really a solilquoy, I think, either - I really feel he's talking directly to us, in a way no other Shakespeare character does.

Because Iago isn't really a person, or a character, when you get down to it. He is a force, the same as the wind and the rain. He isn't evil - he's Evil.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:15 pm

Anyways, that's why Shakespeare's dramas are so good - so much is left to interpretation.
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From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:26 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:Anyways, that's why Shakespeare's dramas are so good - so much is left to interpretation.

And dick jokes.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:27 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Anyways, that's why Shakespeare's dramas are so good - so much is left to interpretation.

And dick jokes.

Well, yeah, dick jokes. That's a given.

For all those reasons, Othello is probably the best intro to Shakespeare. Fuck Romeo and Juliet - that insipid piece-of-shit almost ruined Shakespeare for me before I started. Then what I would be?
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:31 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:And dick jokes.

Well, yeah, dick jokes. That's a given.

For all those reasons, Othello is probably the best intro to Shakespeare. Fuck Romeo and Juliet - that insipid piece-of-shit almost ruined Shakespeare for me before I started. Then what I would be?

Saner?
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Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:32 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Well, yeah, dick jokes. That's a given.

For all those reasons, Othello is probably the best intro to Shakespeare. Fuck Romeo and Juliet - that insipid piece-of-shit almost ruined Shakespeare for me before I started. Then what I would be?

Saner?

But that's boring!
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From a word to a word I was led to a word,
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I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:44 pm

Mentioned this to Nat in a TG:

"Here's what I find absolutely hilarious - hating us is the edgy thing to do.

We are the establishment."

This should absolutely worry you.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:45 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Mentioned this to Nat in a TG:

"Here's what I find absolutely hilarious - hating us is the edgy thing to do.

We are the establishment."

This should absolutely worry you.

My revolutionary impulses demand I behead you in the name of liberty.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:10 pm

At the moment, I've been reading the books for D&D's 5th edition.

It is, quite surprisingly, not shit.
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Monfrox wrote:
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I've concluded, from the one or two games I've played, Cards Against Humanity is actually quite shit.

The commentary of the confused Indian boy and horrified Catholic girl? Brilliant on a transcendental level. But otherwise, quite shit.
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From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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Postby Astrolinium » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:24 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:

I've concluded, from the one or two games I've played, Cards Against Humanity is actually quite shit.

The commentary of the confused Indian boy and horrified Catholic girl? Brilliant on a transcendental level. But otherwise, quite shit.


That's because your humor has yet to ascend to the ultra-post-dadaist levels of the average disillusioned millennial.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:31 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I've concluded, from the one or two games I've played, Cards Against Humanity is actually quite shit.

The commentary of the confused Indian boy and horrified Catholic girl? Brilliant on a transcendental level. But otherwise, quite shit.


That's because your humor has yet to ascend to the ultra-post-dadaist levels of the average disillusioned millennial.

I refuse to participate in any activity which is described as "millennial".

And my humor is firmly rooted in modernist existentialism and theology, with a dash of postmodernist sardonic wit, thank you very fucking much.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:33 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:

I've concluded, from the one or two games I've played, Cards Against Humanity is actually quite shit.

The commentary of the confused Indian boy and horrified Catholic girl? Brilliant on a transcendental level. But otherwise, quite shit.

I find it hilarious.
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:33 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I've concluded, from the one or two games I've played, Cards Against Humanity is actually quite shit.

The commentary of the confused Indian boy and horrified Catholic girl? Brilliant on a transcendental level. But otherwise, quite shit.


That's because your humor has yet to ascend to the ultra-post-dadaist levels of the average disillusioned millennial.


Ultra-post-dadaist sounds so fucking surreal.
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