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Postby Kriegers » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:53 pm

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Kriegers wrote:Ok, I'll remove it if you find out if there are any for sure.

Probably not though, you should be alright
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Postby Scotatrova » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:54 pm

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Scotatrova wrote:It is no one's say on what happened to Australia or the rest of the world. I will add something maybe this week or the weekend explaining which areas were hit and which areas are still radioactive

Seriously though Scot, who would ever nuke Australia ._.

I never said that. It was targeted
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Postby Armstdern » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:54 pm

Luremurg got deleted, so I'll have to use my alternate account now. I can prove that I'm Luremurg if needed.

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Postby The New American commonwealth » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:01 pm

Armstdern wrote:Luremurg got deleted, so I'll have to use my alternate account now. I can prove that I'm Luremurg if needed.

What happened to your old account?
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:02 pm

Icrum wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:I swear , none of you understand the concept that you can't have massive Army's like you can in 'modern' day. This is after the Apocalypse , Modern logistics are practically non-existent. Your entire method of resupply and troop movement is going to be though either Ruck Marches , Rail Roads (what are left ) and Water ways. I mean you really couldn't sustain an active military over 60,000 to be entirely realistic. You simply lack the resources in a post apocalyptic world. Look at the Army's of the 18th and 19 Century's and those should be your gauge. All of this "500,000 Soldiers " Crap needs to stop because honestly i'm going to enjoy laughing at you guys when your Soldiers are under-equipped , under-trained and starving.

Many nations have rebuilt the railways and have a small amount of cargo automobiles. And I'm going to laugh when you get steamrolled because you are a realism nazi. There can be a slight distortion of reality to have up to 500K troops if it makes sense. Look at Australia. If he devotes most of the land to farmland, he could support a lot of troops. I've devoted a lot of Manchuria and Northern Korea to farmland.


You do realize that the middle of Australia is a massive desert ? And that with since Australia is a U.S ally not only would it likely take direct Nuclear hits in it's inhabited 'outer zones' but also would be subject to Nuclear Fallout from China rendering large amounts of the land useless either via a lack of water or lack of usable soil. The problem is having Five hundred thousand soldiers makes absolutely no sense because even Modern Military's with top of the line logistics can't support something that size for any duration of time.

As far as being a realism Nazi goes , Sure , i am , but i tend to expect a higher level of RP skill out of people as a result. That includes and is certainly not limited to , people being rational about their Army sizes. If i get steamrolled then i probably deserve it for not better preparing for something that was likely inevitable.
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Gyrenaica
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Ukrainian Cossacks
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Postby Ukrainian Cossacks » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:18 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:I swear , none of you understand the concept that you can't have massive Army's like you can in 'modern' day. This is after the Apocalypse , Modern logistics are practically non-existent. Your entire method of resupply and troop movement is going to be though either Ruck Marches , Rail Roads (what are left ) and Water ways. I mean you really couldn't sustain an active military over 60,000 to be entirely realistic. You simply lack the resources in a post apocalyptic world. Look at the Army's of the 18th and 19 Century's and those should be your gauge. All of this "500,000 Soldiers " Crap needs to stop because honestly i'm going to enjoy laughing at you guys when your Soldiers are under-equipped , under-trained and starving.

How about me. I have a population of around 600K a
With about 10K or so army size.


My army size was cut! Why not him!
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Postby Gyrenaica » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:21 pm

Ukrainian Cossacks wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:How about me. I have a population of around 600K a
With about 10K or so army size.


My army size was cut! Why not him!

Oops. Sorry.
Just checked my app. I have a population of 640K with 5,900 troops

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Old Craet
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Postby Old Craet » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:26 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Icrum wrote:Many nations have rebuilt the railways and have a small amount of cargo automobiles. And I'm going to laugh when you get steamrolled because you are a realism nazi. There can be a slight distortion of reality to have up to 500K troops if it makes sense. Look at Australia. If he devotes most of the land to farmland, he could support a lot of troops. I've devoted a lot of Manchuria and Northern Korea to farmland.


You do realize that the middle of Australia is a massive desert ? And that with since Australia is a U.S ally not only would it likely take direct Nuclear hits in it's inhabited 'outer zones' but also would be subject to Nuclear Fallout from China rendering large amounts of the land useless either via a lack of water or lack of usable soil. The problem is having Five hundred thousand soldiers makes absolutely no sense because even Modern Military's with top of the line logistics can't support something that size for any duration of time.

As far as being a realism Nazi goes , Sure , i am , but i tend to expect a higher level of RP skill out of people as a result. That includes and is certainly not limited to , people being rational about their Army sizes. If i get steamrolled then i probably deserve it for not better preparing for something that was likely inevitable.

Then there would be a problem for all farmers. If the radiation spreads all the way from China to Australia, then all the land would be covered in radiation. Maybe you should stop shoving this down our throats, and let us have fun unless it is completely ridiculous.

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The New American commonwealth
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Postby The New American commonwealth » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:27 pm

Old Craet wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
You do realize that the middle of Australia is a massive desert ? And that with since Australia is a U.S ally not only would it likely take direct Nuclear hits in it's inhabited 'outer zones' but also would be subject to Nuclear Fallout from China rendering large amounts of the land useless either via a lack of water or lack of usable soil. The problem is having Five hundred thousand soldiers makes absolutely no sense because even Modern Military's with top of the line logistics can't support something that size for any duration of time.

As far as being a realism Nazi goes , Sure , i am , but i tend to expect a higher level of RP skill out of people as a result. That includes and is certainly not limited to , people being rational about their Army sizes. If i get steamrolled then i probably deserve it for not better preparing for something that was likely inevitable.

Then there would be a problem for all farmers. If the radiation spreads all the way from China to Australia, then all the land would be covered in radiation. Maybe you should stop shoving this down our throats, and let us have fun unless it is completely ridiculous.

Umm, why would you care, you're not on the list of accepted Rp players...
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Old Craet
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Postby Old Craet » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:31 pm

The New American commonwealth wrote:
Old Craet wrote:Then there would be a problem for all farmers. If the radiation spreads all the way from China to Australia, then all the land would be covered in radiation. Maybe you should stop shoving this down our throats, and let us have fun unless it is completely ridiculous.

Umm, why would you care, you're not on the list of accepted Rp players...

I'm Icrum. But his statement means that all land is unusable which means, there would be no chance of survival. Plus, as I just looked up, the US has over 1 million active soldiers. So there is a sense of realism to have 500,000 soldiers in some scenarios.

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Postby Bering » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:34 pm

Old Craet wrote:
The New American commonwealth wrote:Umm, why would you care, you're not on the list of accepted Rp players...

I'm Icrum. But his statement means that all land is unusable which means, there would be no chance of survival. Plus, as I just looked up, the US has over 1 million active soldiers. So there is a sense of realism to have 500,000 soldiers in some scenarios.

Just to nitpick, 1 million is less than .33% of the total US population. It is not just about number of troops, but about the percentage of them compared to the total population

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Postby Old Craet » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:37 pm

Bering wrote:
Old Craet wrote:I'm Icrum. But his statement means that all land is unusable which means, there would be no chance of survival. Plus, as I just looked up, the US has over 1 million active soldiers. So there is a sense of realism to have 500,000 soldiers in some scenarios.

Just to nitpick, 1 million is less than .33% of the total US population. It is not just about number of troops, but about the percentage of them compared to the total population

Exactly. If I had my 700K military, I'd have 7% of my people as soldiers, which is not bad. In fact, it's well within the zone of supplying.
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Postby Bering » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:43 pm

Old Craet wrote:
Bering wrote:Just to nitpick, 1 million is less than .33% of the total US population. It is not just about number of troops, but about the percentage of them compared to the total population

Exactly. If I had my 700K military, I'd have 7% of my people as soldiers, which is not bad. In fact, it's well within the zone of supplying.

7% is still a large amount of troops, especially for a post-nuclear world.
And no real country currently has 7% of its population in the military, the highest is North Korea with 4.9% and look at how well that has worked out for them.

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Postby Armstdern » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:51 pm

The New American commonwealth wrote:
Armstdern wrote:Luremurg got deleted, so I'll have to use my alternate account now. I can prove that I'm Luremurg if needed.

What happened to your old account?

I made a joke about ebola so the moderators deleted Luremurg.

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Postby Gyrenaica » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:52 pm

Old Craet wrote:
Bering wrote:Just to nitpick, 1 million is less than .33% of the total US population. It is not just about number of troops, but about the percentage of them compared to the total population

Exactly. If I had my 700K military, I'd have 7% of my people as soldiers, which is not bad. In fact, it's well within the zone of supplying.

In modern times... Not in a post apocalyptic, radiated, death trap called earth.

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Postby Ukrainian Cossacks » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:55 pm

Old Craet wrote:
The New American commonwealth wrote:Umm, why would you care, you're not on the list of accepted Rp players...

I'm Icrum. But his statement means that all land is unusable which means, there would be no chance of survival. Plus, as I just looked up, the US has over 1 million active soldiers. So there is a sense of realism to have 500,000 soldiers in some scenarios.


In todays standerds. Look at it from this view, you are not weakend when asked to limit your population, you simpally how to make it mean with the person who established it. And he was rather generous, and atempts to be realistic. It is his rules and he is not ruining it for you. Back in the ancient times, battles could be 50,000, and the would be a rather large battle. I complained at first, then I realalize how dumb I was.
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Postby Old Craet » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:57 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:
Old Craet wrote:Exactly. If I had my 700K military, I'd have 7% of my people as soldiers, which is not bad. In fact, it's well within the zone of supplying.

In modern times... Not in a post apocalyptic, radiated, death trap called earth.

Then there wouldn't even be populations of over 5 million.

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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:05 pm

Old Craet wrote:
Bering wrote:Just to nitpick, 1 million is less than .33% of the total US population. It is not just about number of troops, but about the percentage of them compared to the total population

Exactly. If I had my 700K military, I'd have 7% of my people as soldiers, which is not bad. In fact, it's well within the zone of supplying.


You do know that the largest percentile of total population under arms during a war was 10% (Germany WW2 ) and 8% (US WW2 )And both respectively , Germany has no industry to speak of and hte US had to resort to 'Rosie the Rivitter' just to keep basic industry running. And that was , you know not after a nuclear fucking Apocalypse.
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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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Postby Old Craet » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:06 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Old Craet wrote:Exactly. If I had my 700K military, I'd have 7% of my people as soldiers, which is not bad. In fact, it's well within the zone of supplying.


You do know that the largest percentile of total population under arms during a war was 10% (Germany WW2 ) and 8% (US WW2 )And both respectively , Germany has no industry to speak of and hte US had to resort to 'Rosie the Rivitter' just to keep basic industry running. And that was , you know not after a nuclear fucking Apocalypse.

But it was 10 years before our tech. So my military of 350K (Which I wished was still 700K) is 3.5% of my nation.

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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:08 pm

Old Craet wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
You do know that the largest percentile of total population under arms during a war was 10% (Germany WW2 ) and 8% (US WW2 )And both respectively , Germany has no industry to speak of and hte US had to resort to 'Rosie the Rivitter' just to keep basic industry running. And that was , you know not after a nuclear fucking Apocalypse.

But it was 10 years before our tech. So my military of 350K (Which I wished was still 700K) is 3.5% of my nation.


'Your Tech ' does not change the fact that there was a large nuclear exchange and vast amounts of the technology that the world depended upon are now gone. You really think that in the 21st Century there is much functional 1950's equipment laying around ? I have no problem with you doing it , that's entirely due to the fact that you're going to be unable to sustain an engagement for more than a few short weeks when operating at peak capacity.
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"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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Postby Old Craet » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:10 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Old Craet wrote:But it was 10 years before our tech. So my military of 350K (Which I wished was still 700K) is 3.5% of my nation.


'Your Tech ' does not change the fact that there was a large nuclear exchange and vast amounts of the technology that the world depended upon are now gone. You really think that in the 21st Century there is much functional 1950's equipment laying around ? I have no problem with you doing it , that's entirely due to the fact that you're going to be unable to sustain an engagement for more than a few short weeks when operating at peak capacity.

Then your 'realism' is skewed. In a rebuilt nation of 10 million people, where a good majority of them can build 21st century tech, a military of 350K is beyond reasonable.

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Postby Armstdern » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:11 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Old Craet wrote:But it was 10 years before our tech. So my military of 350K (Which I wished was still 700K) is 3.5% of my nation.


'Your Tech ' does not change the fact that there was a large nuclear exchange and vast amounts of the technology that the world depended upon are now gone. You really think that in the 21st Century there is much functional 1950's equipment laying around ? I have no problem with you doing it , that's entirely due to the fact that you're going to be unable to sustain an engagement for more than a few short weeks when operating at peak capacity.

I would've preferred to use tech from the late 1800's, but it appears no one gives a fuck what a cagian thinks.

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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:14 pm

Old Craet wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
'Your Tech ' does not change the fact that there was a large nuclear exchange and vast amounts of the technology that the world depended upon are now gone. You really think that in the 21st Century there is much functional 1950's equipment laying around ? I have no problem with you doing it , that's entirely due to the fact that you're going to be unable to sustain an engagement for more than a few short weeks when operating at peak capacity.

Then your 'realism' is skewed. In a rebuilt nation of 10 million people, where a good majority of them can build 21st century tech, a military of 350K is beyond reasonable.


I'm not entirely sure what you're coming from. In modern day there aren't exactly many 'blue collar ' workers such as carpenters , stone masons , gunsmiths ect. You're assuming that somehow everyone is now a capable Blacksmith , Carpenter , Mason ect. in a world were such skills were often seen as lower level jobs due to requiring manual labor. You seem to not understand the concept that basically 'no' 21st century technology is going to be functional on a broad scale. It either would've been so completely and utterly fried by the combine EMP's of multiple nuclear weapons or lacks the components required to run. Any remaining 21st Century tech is few and far between.
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"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
George Orwell

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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:15 pm

Armstdern wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
'Your Tech ' does not change the fact that there was a large nuclear exchange and vast amounts of the technology that the world depended upon are now gone. You really think that in the 21st Century there is much functional 1950's equipment laying around ? I have no problem with you doing it , that's entirely due to the fact that you're going to be unable to sustain an engagement for more than a few short weeks when operating at peak capacity.

I would've preferred to use tech from the late 1800's, but it appears no one gives a fuck what a cagian thinks.


You ever watch the Netflix series , Evolution or Revolution (what ever ) Basically a global EMP reverts most things to 1800's tech. You might enjoy it.
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/nations.php?nation=Imperial+City-States
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
George Orwell

Unapologetically American
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