Ashes of an Empire OOC

[Lingang]

That military is big for your population, agricultural output and your landmass.

Seconded, I only got half my drive done .

Why early winter, WHY?!?!

Ooh, where do you live? Around the areas that just got pounded with snow?

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Seconded, I only got half my drive done .

Why early winter, WHY?!?!

Ooh, where do you live? Around the areas that just got pounded with snow?

Midwest, the great yooper and troll lands

[Lingang]

Ooh, where do you live? Around the areas that just got pounded with snow?

Midwest, the great yooper and troll lands

Ah. Here in the Southeast, we only get snow once or twice a winter.

[Reatra]

Midwest, the great yooper and troll lands

Ah. Here in the Southeast, we only get snow once or twice a winter.

Here in California, or at least the coast, we only get snow once every few years if it gets especially cold on top of a hill.

[Lingang]

Ah. Here in the Southeast, we only get snow once or twice a winter.

Here in California, or at least the coast, we only get snow once every few years if it gets especially cold on top of a hill.

I also hear you guys freak out whenever it drizzles... is that true?

[Reatra]

Here in California, or at least the coast, we only get snow once every few years if it gets especially cold on top of a hill.

I also hear you guys freak out whenever it drizzles... is that true?

Maybe to those people down south. Here in The Bay Area I'm sitting next to a window I can barely see out of due to the rain.

[Licata]

Allow me to explain. Because my nation is a feudal/tribal -like nation my ruler's lands are, in ways, separate from the lands of my vassals. My leader Ukko is the Sky God incarnate(ideologically). Ukko's war band/tribe's population is 200k, and his vassals have a pop of 1.3 million. My nation should only be held together because of radicalism.

[Reatra]

Allow me to explain. Because my nation is a feudal/tribal -like nation my ruler's lands are, in ways, separate from the lands of my vassals. My leader Ukko is the Sky God incarnate(ideologically). Ukko's war band/tribe's population is 200k, and his vassals have a pop of 1.3 million. My nation should only be held together because of radicalism.

So if a single chief began to spread the idea that you weren't the sky god after all.....

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Allow me to explain. Because my nation is a feudal/tribal -like nation my ruler's lands are, in ways, separate from the lands of my vassals. My leader Ukko is the Sky God incarnate(ideologically). Ukko's war band/tribe's population is 200k, and his vassals have a pop of 1.3 million. My nation should only be held together because of radicalism.

Eh, realistically you need people at home to support your nominal inferstructure so the troops need to be lower for all numbers. I do understand where you are goin though, maybe more explanation of some of the major vassal tribes.

[Reatra]

BTW Columbia, the OP map doesn't have my colonization/conquests

Might confuse newcomers who wanna be Canadian

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

BTW Columbia, the OP map doesn't have my colonization/conquests

Might confuse newcomers who wanna be Canadian

Grrrrrrrr, thought you would get ze message, less land plox, or death by asteroid (I will add it on the morrow most liably, but some of it wont be as occupied though)

[Reatra]

BTW Columbia, the OP map doesn't have my colonization/conquests

Might confuse newcomers who wanna be Canadian

Grrrrrrrr, thought you would get ze message, less land plox, or death by asteroid (I will add it on the morrow most liably, but some of it wont be as occupied though)

They're in the empire but most won't get taxed for years, yes.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Grrrrrrrr, thought you would get ze message, less land plox, or death by asteroid (I will add it on the morrow most liably, but some of it wont be as occupied though)

They're in the empire but most won't get taxed for years, yes.

Launches Nook

[Lingang]

Won't be able to post tonight. But hopefully I'll get something up by this weekend. Plus I have Thanksgiving break coming up, so I have that time to post.

Goodnight to all, and to all a more active thread!

[Licata]

Allow me to explain. Because my nation is a feudal/tribal -like nation my ruler's lands are, in ways, separate from the lands of my vassals. My leader Ukko is the Sky God incarnate(ideologically). Ukko's war band/tribe's population is 200k, and his vassals have a pop of 1.3 million. My nation should only be held together because of radicalism.

Eh, realistically you need people at home to support your nominal inferstructure so the troops need to be lower for all numbers. I do understand where you are goin though, maybe more explanation of some of the major vassal tribes.

Those troops are the men of the tribes who are willing to go out and fight, they are levies. I didn't really mean for there to be any prominent vassal tribes.

If someone were to question Ukko's legitimacy, they'd be killed by their clansman even if they are a chief.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Eh, realistically you need people at home to support your nominal inferstructure so the troops need to be lower for all numbers. I do understand where you are goin though, maybe more explanation of some of the major vassal tribes.

Those troops are the men of the tribes who are willing to go out and fight, they are levies. I didn't really mean for there to be any prominent vassal tribes.

If someone were to question Ukko's legitimacy, they'd be killed by their clansman even if they are a chief.

You would not be able to maintain troops of those numbers without causing problems. The other problem is to maintain this sort of fanatacism you need to make everyone actually fear you, not just a few chiefs. Else, as seen in many more militarized cultures, another stronger warrior would take his place.


All in all, you definately would need a smaller military, but the tribal rule thing might work. I need to look into it more.

[Licata]

Those troops are the men of the tribes who are willing to go out and fight, they are levies. I didn't really mean for there to be any prominent vassal tribes.

If someone were to question Ukko's legitimacy, they'd be killed by their clansman even if they are a chief.

You would not be able to maintain troops of those numbers without causing problems. The other problem is to maintain this sort of fanatacism you need to make everyone actually fear you, not just a few chiefs. Else, as seen in many more militarized cultures, another stronger warrior would take his place.

They would both fear and love him. In their religion the Sky God is the king of all gods. The nation is made up of a large amount of small chiefs, with maybe 30-50k people under them. Their system has been established for about 400 years or so, they respect Ukko's heir because they believe that the Sky God possesses the heir after Ukko's death. At that point the heir becomes yet another Ukko. Most men would be warriors, so I don't see a problem with my numbers. My nation isn't meant to be organised, not beyond tribes.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

You would not be able to maintain troops of those numbers without causing problems. The other problem is to maintain this sort of fanatacism you need to make everyone actually fear you, not just a few chiefs. Else, as seen in many more militarized cultures, another stronger warrior would take his place.

They would both fear and love him. In their religion the Sky God is the king of all gods. The nation is made up of a large amount of small chiefs, with maybe 30-50k people under them. Their system has been established for about 400 years or so, they respect Ukko's heir because they believe that the Sky God possesses the heir after Ukko's death. At that point the heir becomes yet another Ukko. Most men would be warriors, so I don't see a problem with my numbers. My nation isn't meant to be organised, not beyond tribes.

That is fine, the only problem is the less organized you are, the smaller the ammount of people you can command. I am trying to find a middle ground for you between tribal rule and organized government so that you can maintain most of your points.

Your numbers would not be able to be liably as high, you need for a warrior culture to be able to continue replenishing ammounts of offspring, food to feed them, people to maintain your boats, people to forge your weapons, etc. Else everything falls apart very quickly. And all of this must be accounted for, those who work to support the warriors and the warriors themselves, else you cannot have a viable state.

[Licata]

They would both fear and love him. In their religion the Sky God is the king of all gods. The nation is made up of a large amount of small chiefs, with maybe 30-50k people under them. Their system has been established for about 400 years or so, they respect Ukko's heir because they believe that the Sky God possesses the heir after Ukko's death. At that point the heir becomes yet another Ukko. Most men would be warriors, so I don't see a problem with my numbers. My nation isn't meant to be organised, not beyond tribes.

That is fine, the only problem is the less organized you are, the smaller the ammount of people you can command. I am trying to find a middle ground for you between tribal rule and organized government so that you can maintain most of your points.

Your numbers would not be able to be liably as high, you need for a warrior culture to be able to continue replenishing ammounts of offspring, food to feed them, people to maintain your boats, people to forge your weapons, etc. Else everything falls apart very quickly. And all of this must be accounted for, those who work to support the warriors and the warriors themselves, else you cannot have a viable state.

They are a levied force, they have normal occupations beyond fighting. The bands of warriors are lead by their liege lords(IE-lesser chiefs). They worship warfare and the spilling blood, I'd say they have a warrior culture.

[Paketo]

That is fine, the only problem is the less organized you are, the smaller the ammount of people you can command. I am trying to find a middle ground for you between tribal rule and organized government so that you can maintain most of your points.

Your numbers would not be able to be liably as high, you need for a warrior culture to be able to continue replenishing ammounts of offspring, food to feed them, people to maintain your boats, people to forge your weapons, etc. Else everything falls apart very quickly. And all of this must be accounted for, those who work to support the warriors and the warriors themselves, else you cannot have a viable state.

They are a levied force, they have normal occupations beyond fighting. The bands of warriors are lead by their liege lords(IE-lesser chiefs). They worship warfare and the spilling blood, I'd say they have a warrior culture.

then you need to specify that in your app. Put Professional army: 3000 soldiers Maximum Levies: 15000 for example

[Licata]

They are a levied force, they have normal occupations beyond fighting. The bands of warriors are lead by their liege lords(IE-lesser chiefs). They worship warfare and the spilling blood, I'd say they have a warrior culture.

then you need to specify that in your app. Put Professional army: 3000 soldiers Maximum Levies: 15000 for example

I edited to where it specifies it, I guess.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

then you need to specify that in your app. Put Professional army: 3000 soldiers Maximum Levies: 15000 for example

I edited to where it specifies it, I guess.

Before I accept ye, I just want to make certain that your ships you have in your app are all pretty much longships right?

And I have to go to bed, you are going to be added to the roster tomorrow, I just need to make sure what your ships are.

[Licata]

I edited to where it specifies it, I guess.

Before I accept ye, I just want to make certain that your ships you have in your app are all pretty much longships right?

They are all longships yes. They don't really have a crew, soldiers man them when needed, they mostly used for raiding and commerce.

[Reatra]

Before I accept ye, I just want to make certain that your ships you have in your app are all pretty much longships right?

They are all longships yes. They don't really have a crew, soldiers man them when needed, they mostly used for raiding and commerce.

One question...

Why is Finland viking?

[Licata]

They are all longships yes. They don't really have a crew, soldiers man them when needed, they mostly used for raiding and commerce.

One question...

Why is Finland viking?

Shh, let them have their fun.