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Postby Paketo » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:44 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Paketo wrote:Well i got a decent post up launching the invasion. Thanks exams

Edit:Republic of the Carolinas is rolling, the others are stoned.
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Does the Carolinas have any slaves like Texas( just saying because they use slavery as well).


Yes. You can see a slave revolt being put down in one of my posts
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Postby Ralnis » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:48 pm

Paketo wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Does the Carolinas have any slaves like Texas( just saying because they use slavery as well).


Yes. You can see a slave revolt being put down in one of my posts

Do they use them as workers in their armies?
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Postby Paketo » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:53 pm

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Paketo wrote:
Yes. You can see a slave revolt being put down in one of my posts

Do they use them as workers in their armies?


Well, a general or admiral might have a few slaves with him but otherwise no. Slaves are mostly crooks who were forced into slavery to pay for their crimes so they are pretty much only going to be found in the fields and a few factories
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Postby Ralnis » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:08 pm

Paketo wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Do they use them as workers in their armies?


Well, a general or admiral might have a few slaves with him but otherwise no. Slaves are mostly crooks who were forced into slavery to pay for their crimes so they are pretty much only going to be found in the fields and a few factories

Hmm, I sent you a TG regarding something like this.
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Postby Ava Ire » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:14 am

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Lingang wrote:Woooow....a second slave trade, really?...You know there are more Blacks in that region of the US than any other? In the proposed map, the Blacks in the region began to proliferate. Now the Southern coastal regions are predominantly Blackmen...

'the Blacks in the region began to proliferate"
What? What does that even mean? Like, they took over and castrated all the non-blacks? :blink:

No. I mean that as in they began to out-populate the whites.....like how the whites have out-populated the Native Americans.

Also to everyone in North America, what're your nations attitudes towards Memphis?
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Postby Ralnis » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:06 pm

Ava Ire wrote:
Alleniana wrote:'the Blacks in the region began to proliferate"
What? What does that even mean? Like, they took over and castrated all the non-blacks? :blink:

No. I mean that as in they began to out-populate the whites.....like how the whites have out-populated the Native Americans.

Also to everyone in North America, what're your nations attitudes towards Memphis?

When the Frontier knows who started the war, very angry and negatively, but will probably do nothing because of the War.

Also, how does Japan, or anyone in Asia, know that the Frontier Empire or the existence of any countries in North America?
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:48 pm

Ava Ire wrote:
Alleniana wrote:'the Blacks in the region began to proliferate"
What? What does that even mean? Like, they took over and castrated all the non-blacks? :blink:

No. I mean that as in they began to out-populate the whites.....like how the whites have out-populated the Native Americans.

Also to everyone in North America, what're your nations attitudes towards Memphis?

How does that work? The whites committed genocide against and constantly fought the natives, while they literally immigrated by the shipload from much more numerous home countries. They had superior technology, brought diseases that killed the natives in droves, and generally had the capabilities to do that. Surely the Africans didn't colonise the Americas?

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Postby Lingang » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:58 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Ava Ire wrote:No. I mean that as in they began to out-populate the whites.....like how the whites have out-populated the Native Americans.

Also to everyone in North America, what're your nations attitudes towards Memphis?

How does that work? The whites committed genocide against and constantly fought the natives, while they literally immigrated by the shipload from much more numerous home countries. They had superior technology, brought diseases that killed the natives in droves, and generally had the capabilities to do that. Surely the Africans didn't colonise the Americas?

Also that's my puppet, I forgot to log out of its account (did you notice it earlier? :p )

No. I just made the US South majority Black. It's actually a back-story I'm developing....In one of my back-stories (that I'm still developing) the US fell into ethnic war after the Collapse....so yeah, to concur with your earlier statement (which I earlier disagreed with, confusing I know! :blink: ), the Blacks did end up killing a lot of Whites in the South in terrible race/ethnic wars which lasted for the whole 21st Century (so scratch my earlier explanation). The reasons and background of the wars I'm still working on however. Or maybe I could have the population slowly mix together to make up one ethnic group. Gah! Not sure about which idea to really use!

Of course that's just my version of what happened. You may as well have your own. By the way, do you?
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:10 pm

Lingang wrote:
Alleniana wrote:How does that work? The whites committed genocide against and constantly fought the natives, while they literally immigrated by the shipload from much more numerous home countries. They had superior technology, brought diseases that killed the natives in droves, and generally had the capabilities to do that. Surely the Africans didn't colonise the Americas?

Also that's my puppet, I forgot to log out of its account (did you notice it earlier? :p )

No. I just made the US South majority Black. It's actually a back-story I'm developing....In one of my back-stories (that I'm still developing) the US fell into ethnic war after the Collapse....so yeah, to concur with your earlier statement (which I earlier disagreed with, confusing I know! :blink: ), the Blacks did end up killing a lot of Whites in the South in terrible race/ethnic wars which lasted for the whole 21st Century (so scratch my earlier explanation). The reasons and background of the wars I'm still working on however. Or maybe I could have the population slowly mix together to make up one ethnic group. Gah! Not sure about which idea to really use!

Of course that's just my version of what happened. You may as well have your own. By the way, do you?

Well, I'd imagine that they'd just integrate more and more like they do today. In any case, even if anyone who was even half-African joined (unlikely; what's the motivation for fighting anyway?), the states you've proposed for black only have about 25%, at best. And then factor in that they're generally less economically privileged, which would likely transfer over in terms of supplies, health, etc. I don't see how they could start a war, nor win one.

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Postby Lingang » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:26 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Lingang wrote:Also that's my puppet, I forgot to log out of its account (did you notice it earlier? :p )

No. I just made the US South majority Black. It's actually a back-story I'm developing....In one of my back-stories (that I'm still developing) the US fell into ethnic war after the Collapse....so yeah, to concur with your earlier statement (which I earlier disagreed with, confusing I know! :blink: ), the Blacks did end up killing a lot of Whites in the South in terrible race/ethnic wars which lasted for the whole 21st Century (so scratch my earlier explanation). The reasons and background of the wars I'm still working on however. Or maybe I could have the population slowly mix together to make up one ethnic group. Gah! Not sure about which idea to really use!

Of course that's just my version of what happened. You may as well have your own. By the way, do you?

Well, I'd imagine that they'd just integrate more and more like they do today. In any case, even if anyone who was even half-African joined (unlikely; what's the motivation for fighting anyway?), the states you've proposed for black only have about 25%, at best. And then factor in that they're generally less economically privileged, which would likely transfer over in terms of supplies, health, etc. I don't see how they could start a war, nor win one.

I haven't worked it out yet. Maybe a war, maybe peaceful integration. Now that I think about it, I do quite like the concept of peaceful integration more! And yes, for basically all of American history, blacks have been generally less privileged than all the other groups. However the Collapse destroyed almost all social order. So the generally privileged whites were no longer so, and vice versa. They were all lowered to an equal standing in terms of their situations. Every "race" in America was given a chance to shape their own future and culture. Who's to say that the poor people in America, after the collapse, couldn't (eventually) learn to live off the land and build their own nations?

Also I will be able to post tomorrow.
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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:07 pm

Found a vid ye would all like :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7if1TsTdrUk
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:56 pm

Lingang wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Well, I'd imagine that they'd just integrate more and more like they do today. In any case, even if anyone who was even half-African joined (unlikely; what's the motivation for fighting anyway?), the states you've proposed for black only have about 25%, at best. And then factor in that they're generally less economically privileged, which would likely transfer over in terms of supplies, health, etc. I don't see how they could start a war, nor win one.

I haven't worked it out yet. Maybe a war, maybe peaceful integration. Now that I think about it, I do quite like the concept of peaceful integration more! And yes, for basically all of American history, blacks have been generally less privileged than all the other groups. However the Collapse destroyed almost all social order. So the generally privileged whites were no longer so, and vice versa. They were all lowered to an equal standing in terms of their situations. Every "race" in America was given a chance to shape their own future and culture. Who's to say that the poor people in America, after the collapse, couldn't (eventually) learn to live off the land and build their own nations?

Also I will be able to post tomorrow.

Still, why would a majority suddenly be outpopulated by a minority? It's not because of pre-collapse privilege, it's not because of any advantage in location... why did it happen?

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Postby Lingang » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:51 am

I'm still here! I'm still active!
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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:41 am

Lingang wrote:I'm still here! I'm still active!


I know :)

(I may stasis this soon though, for future reboot)
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:27 am

I am here as well.
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Postby Paketo » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:26 pm

me to
I'm a Pinarchist, sue me North Carolina is best Carolina States rights is best rights
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Postby Lingang » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:17 pm

Alleniana wrote:Anyone got a good navy?

me?
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Postby Paketo » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:28 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Lingang wrote:me?

In the Americas? :P


mesa
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:29 pm

Paketo wrote:
Alleniana wrote:In the Americas? :P


mesa

I would think Rylonia is the one with the strongest.
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Postby Reatra » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:29 pm

Alleniana wrote:Anyone got a good navy?


ME! I AM DE NAVY GUY!
yee haw it's time for mass line


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Postby Ralnis » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:33 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Reatra wrote:
ME! I AM DE NAVY GUY!

Are you at war with anyone?

He is funding my war effort.
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