Ashes of an Empire OOC

[Reatra]

from wiki "Muskets were smoothbore, large caliber weapons using ball-shaped ammunition fired at relatively low velocity. Due to the high cost and great difficulty of precision manufacturing, and the need to load readily from the muzzle, the musket ball was a loose fit in the barrel. Consequently on firing the ball bounced off the sides of the barrel when fired and the final direction on leaving the muzzle was unpredictable.

Barrel rifling was invented in Augsburg, Germany at the end of the fifteenth century.[5] In 1520 August Kotter, an armourer of Nuremberg, Germany improved upon this work. Though true rifling dates from the mid-16th century, it did not become commonplace until the nineteenth century."

so i don't see how we couldn't have it, just be in less use to due to increased loading times

The first combat use of the rifle that I can see is 1807,by the British against napoleon, 100 years after the general cutoff for initial available technology.

Americans were able to fight the British with rifles because of their guerilla tactics during the Revolution.

[Ralnis]

Then would the Frontier Rangers have more musket( flintlock/matchlock) sharpshooter regiments because they are mostly an irregular army?

[Paketo]

Then would the Frontier Rangers have more musket( flintlock/matchlock) sharpshooter regiments because they are mostly an irregular army?

depends on their tactics and the government. They fight in a line, they will use a musket, but if they fight in small groups in cover using ambush tactics then they will use rifles

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Then would the Frontier Rangers have more musket( flintlock/matchlock) sharpshooter regiments because they are mostly an irregular army?

depends on their tactics and the government. They fight in a line, they will use a musket, but if they fight in small groups in cover using ambush tactics then they will use rifles

Once again, ahem, OP ruling states the latter is unavailable...

[Ralnis]

depends on their tactics and the government. They fight in a line, they will use a musket, but if they fight in small groups in cover using ambush tactics then they will use rifles

Once again, ahem, OP ruling states the latter is unavailable...

So, only cannons and arequbus-flintlock muskets are available?

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Once again, ahem, OP ruling states the latter is unavailable...

So, only cannons and arequbus-flintlock muskets are available?

muskets are fine, cannons are fine Tri barrel ming pole guns are fine.

[Ralnis]

So, only cannons and arequbus-flintlock muskets are available?

muskets are fine, cannons are fine Tri barrel ming pole guns are fine.

Can the Frontier have some sort of proto rifles for skirmishing and sniping?

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

muskets are fine, cannons are fine Tri barrel ming pole guns are fine.

Can the Frontier have some sort of proto rifles for skirmishing and sniping?

@ both Ye and Paketo. I do not mind some early rifles that are few and far between for people to have, but I do not want to see mass production of them yet. Else I will have to send the asteroids . My main concern is if people get one they will try to justify somehow their nation immediatly beginning mass production of them, which I don't want to see yet.

[Ralnis]

Can the Frontier have some sort of proto rifles for skirmishing and sniping?

@ both Ye and Paketo. I do not mind some early rifles that are few and far between for people to have, but I do not want to see mass production of them yet. Else I will have to send the asteroids . My main concern is if people get one they will try to justify somehow their nation immediatly beginning mass production of them, which I don't want to see yet.

Me, being able to have mass production? Hah, that is a laugh, I was just going to have them for special forces that will be needed for the war.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

@ both Ye and Paketo. I do not mind some early rifles that are few and far between for people to have, but I do not want to see mass production of them yet. Else I will have to send the asteroids . My main concern is if people get one they will try to justify somehow their nation immediatly beginning mass production of them, which I don't want to see yet.

Me, being able to have mass production? Hah, that is a laugh, I was just going to have them for special forces that will be needed for the war.

maybe a squad or two for "elites". This be directed at everyone

[Ralnis]

Me, being able to have mass production? Hah, that is a laugh, I was just going to have them for special forces that will be needed for the war.

maybe a squad or two for "elites". This be directed at everyone

Sounds good to me, I am guessing that firearms in general will not be en mass because they are still not to the point that they can be relied on completely so there will be pikes and other things?

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

maybe a squad or two for "elites". This be directed at everyone

Sounds good to me, I am guessing that firearms in general will not be en mass because they are still not to the point that they can be relied on completely so there will be pikes and other things?

Depends on the state. For instance, the imperium uses much less gunpowder weaponry due to the need to be able to rely less on limited resources.

[Reatra]

Sounds good to me, I am guessing that firearms in general will not be en mass because they are still not to the point that they can be relied on completely so there will be pikes and other things?

Depends on the state. For instance, the imperium uses much less gunpowder weaponry due to the need to be able to rely less on limited resources.

And that you've really no way to GET gunpowder in the first place on your homeland.

[Ralnis]

Sounds good to me, I am guessing that firearms in general will not be en mass because they are still not to the point that they can be relied on completely so there will be pikes and other things?

Depends on the state. For instance, the imperium uses much less gunpowder weaponry due to the need to be able to rely less on limited resources.

And the Frontier would use more gunpowder because of the more mineral and metallic resources?

[Reatra]

Depends on the state. For instance, the imperium uses much less gunpowder weaponry due to the need to be able to rely less on limited resources.

And the Frontier would use more gunpowder because of the more mineral and metallic resources?

Look up the ingredients for black powder.

[Ralnis]

And the Frontier would use more gunpowder because of the more mineral and metallic resources?

Look up the ingredients for black powder.

Yeah, charcoal is hard with no major timber or vegetation resources, I don't think that sulfur is near me( but I think I am mistaken) and I think I have saltpeter. So maybe 2 out of 3 resources for black powder?

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Depends on the state. For instance, the imperium uses much less gunpowder weaponry due to the need to be able to rely less on limited resources.

And that you've really no way to GET gunpowder in the first place on your homeland.

There are ways to get it, but, why would I really use it all that much when an arbalest works just as well? I need sulfur, urine and charcoal to get the black powder, so that actually should be easy to make.

@Ralnis, there is a process to use urine and some other ingredients to make the potassium nitrate for the powder

Edit: It is also possible to make black powder without sulfur.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

A link for black powder recipes

[Ralnis]

And that you've really no way to GET gunpowder in the first place on your homeland.

There are ways to get it, but, why would I really use it all that much when an arbalest works just as well? I need sulfur, urine and charcoal to get the black powder, so that actually should be easy to make.

@Ralnis, there is a process to use urine and some other ingredients to make the potassium nitrate for the powder

Edit: It is also possible to make black powder without sulfur.

I saw the link, and that is a good to know because it can work with the Frontiersmen and their "surviving off the land" part of their lifestyle.

[Reatra]

There are ways to get it, but, why would I really use it all that much when an arbalest works just as well? I need sulfur, urine and charcoal to get the black powder, so that actually should be easy to make.

@Ralnis, there is a process to use urine and some other ingredients to make the potassium nitrate for the powder

Edit: It is also possible to make black powder without sulfur.

I saw the link, and that is a good to know because it can work with the Frontiersmen and their "surviving off the land" part of their lifestyle.

Yes, it's not hard to make it. But how much of it would you have?

Really, for an entire nation to be armed....

[Ralnis]

I saw the link, and that is a good to know because it can work with the Frontiersmen and their "surviving off the land" part of their lifestyle.

Yes, it's not hard to make it. But how much of it would you have?

Really, for an entire nation to be armed....

The Frontier wouldn't be armed to the teeth with black powder, but it would be in some ways, commonplace( like in the military or in towns that thrive on hunting or gunsmithing) but they are still normal for the times with things like bows/crossbows and swords like everyone else( more or less).

[Armstdern]

Nation Name: Die Boererepubliek (The Boer Republic)

Symbols:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbvlKUwJuBU

Location:
62nd nation renamed.

Homeland Population: People in the Die Boererepubliek mainly includes white's from former African countries, although it has a large European immigrant population. So I'm going to say around 7 million.

Imperial Population: No colonies. Yet.

Capital City: Durban (Resembles a European City now)

Government Info

Government Type: Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy

Brief Explanation of Government: The Emperor or Empress of Die Boererepubliek, normally referred to as the Keiser of Die Boererepubliek or the Kaiserin of Die Boererepubliek, under the obedience god he/she has the right to govern, if he/she disobeys god's will the people have the right to cut the Keiser/Kaiserin down. The Keiser/Kaiserin is more of a president, as the Emperor/Empress is elected by the people from members of the royal family. The Keiser/Kaiserin doesn't have the right to dictate the will of the people, or the will of the parliament.

Ideology: Right to bare arms, Individual freedoms, Monarchist, Conservative, Liberal, Africa for Whites

Leader's: Keiser Claudio Vandergroot, Chancellor Aaltje Ostrander.

Population Info

Brief Description of your people: The people of Die Boererepubliek are mainly white Africans (Dutch), French Immigrants and Polish Immigrants. Afrikaans and English are the two main languages in Die Boererepubliek, although some second generation immigrants speak French and Polish. The majority of citizens in Die Boererepubliek are in the middle class, although some are poor in the Eastern regions.

Religion: Protestants and Catholics.

Ethnicity:
Boers: 2,000,000
Other White Africans: 4,000,000
French Immigrants (Most have been in Die Boererepubliek for three generations.): 1,000,000
Polish Immigrants (Most have been in Die Boererepubliek for three generations.): 1,000,000


Main/Accepted Culture(s): Boer, Dutch, Other White African sub-cultures, Polish and French

Other Cultures: African

Military Info

Army: The army is split into two branches, the Bushvegter's (Professional army) and the Mensevegter's (Mainly well trained militia's). Bushvegter's are mainly used for offensive action, and the Mensevegter's are normally used for defensive action. The Bushvegter's are elite, patriotic and professional troops with a high level of training, and the Mensevegter's are normally militia's with muskets with a low level of training. There is no age limit to join the Mensevegter's and the right age to join the Bushvegter's is 15-45. There are also cavarly divisions, the horses used are normally horse x zebra hybrids.
Active Bushvegter's: 40,000
Reserve Bushvegter's: 30,000
Active Mensevegter's: 40,000
Reserve Mensevegter's: 20,000
Active Calvary: 2,000
Reserve Calvary: 1,000
Navy: The Nederlandsevloot of Die Boererepubliek is a medium sized navy, it contains sturdy destroyers, cruisers and other types of wooden ships. There are around 30,000 marines in the Navy, and another 10,000 in the naval reserves. Die Boererepubliek is currently working to strengthen it's navy.

Other Info

Brief Description of your Economy: Die Boererepubliek's economy is mainly based on mining, industrial products, along with agricultural production. There are many farm's in Die Boererepubliek and a lot of factories. Most citizens in Die Boererepubliek have good jobs, earn a fair amount of money and pay an income tax of around 30% (Lower for the poor). So overall the economy of Die Boererepubliek is strong and large, and is one of the richest countries in Africa.

Goals: Secure more land in Africa, get colonies in upper Africa and in the Pacific.

History: Around a hundred years after the plague most of the whites in Africa had fled to less populated area's in South Africa to avoid the plague and race related violence. Disease, chaos and conflict had riddled the landscape the African landscape for a near century, but while the Africans were embroiled in conflict the white refugees had constructed beautiful cities, monuments and towns in parts of former parts of South Africa. The Boers soon became the dominant culture in the large groups of white refugees and created Die Boererepubliek.

But soon the Africans became aware of Die Boererepubliek, a huge war ensued between Die Boererepubliek and African tribes who were attempting to rid Africa of whites once and for all, blacks that had lived peacefully Die Boererepubliek were exterminated, and half-casts also got killed. Die Boererepubliek finally beat the African tribes and sued for peace, the Africans agreed and left Die Boererepubliek alone.

After the huge war Die Boererepubliek sent boats up to France and Poland and brought immigrants back to Die Boererepubliek. During the next fifty years Die Boererepubliek focused on increasing industry, agricultural production, rebuilding cities and towns. Once these goals has been accomplished Die Boererepubliek began to increase it's military and naval strength, and did so adequately.

Now most citizens of Die Boererepubliek live in a happy society, with clean streets, adequate sewage systems and safe cities. Most citizens own a musket or other types of weaponry, and have pledged to defend Die Boererepubliek to the death if it was to ever come under threat.

RP Sample: My previous account was Luremurg, I participated in many RP's including the following:
Zombie Apocalypse RP Reboot
The Walking Dead RP
I'm also currently involved in a rp called the years after: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=320140

429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

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[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Nation Name: Die Boererepubliek (The Boer Republic)

Symbols:

(Image)

(Image)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbvlKUwJuBU

Location:
62nd nation renamed.

Homeland Population: People in the Die Boererepubliek mainly includes white's from former African countries, although it has a large European immigrant population. So I'm going to say around 7 million.

Imperial Population: No colonies. Yet.

Capital City: Durban (Resembles a European City now)

Government Info

Government Type: Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy

Brief Explanation of Government: The Emperor or Empress of Die Boererepubliek, normally referred to as the Keiser of Die Boererepubliek or the Kaiserin of Die Boererepubliek, under the obedience god he/she has the right to govern, if he/she disobeys god's will the people have the right to cut the Keiser/Kaiserin down. The Keiser/Kaiserin is more of a president, as the Emperor/Empress is elected by the people from members of the royal family. The Keiser/Kaiserin doesn't have the right to dictate the will of the people, or the will of the parliament.

Ideology: Right to bare arms, Individual freedoms, Monarchist, Conservative, Liberal, Africa for Whites

Leader's: Keiser Claudio Vandergroot, Chancellor Aaltje Ostrander.

Population Info

Brief Description of your people: The people of Die Boererepubliek are mainly white Africans (Dutch), French Immigrants and Polish Immigrants. Afrikaans and English are the two main languages in Die Boererepubliek, although some second generation immigrants speak French and Polish. The majority of citizens in Die Boererepubliek are in the middle class, although some are poor in the Eastern regions.

Religion: Protestants and Catholics.

Ethnicity:
Boers: 2,000,000
Other White Africans: 4,000,000
French Immigrants (Most have been in Die Boererepubliek for three generations.): 1,000,000
Polish Immigrants (Most have been in Die Boererepubliek for three generations.): 1,000,000


Main/Accepted Culture(s): Boer, Dutch, Other White African sub-cultures, Polish and French

Other Cultures: African

Military Info

Army: The army is split into two branches, the Bushvegter's (Professional army) and the Mensevegter's (Mainly well trained militia's). Bushvegter's are mainly used for offensive action, and the Mensevegter's are normally used for defensive action. The Bushvegter's are elite, patriotic and professional troops with a high level of training, and the Mensevegter's are normally militia's with muskets with a low level of training. There is no age limit to join the Mensevegter's and the right age to join the Bushvegter's is 15-45. There are also cavarly divisions, the horses used are normally horse x zebra hybrids.
Active Bushvegter's: 90,000
Reserve Bushvegter's: 30,000
Active Mensevegter's: 40,000
Reserve Mensevegter's: 20,000
Active Calvary: 2,000
Reserve Calvary: 1,000
Navy: The Nederlandsevloot of Die Boererepubliek is a medium sized navy, it contains sturdy destroyers, cruisers and other types of wooden ships. There are around 30,000 marines in the Navy, and another 10,000 in the naval reserves. Die Boererepubliek is currently working to strengthen it's navy.

Other Info

Brief Description of your Economy: Die Boererepubliek's economy is mainly based on mining, industrial products, along with agricultural production. There are many farm's in Die Boererepubliek and a lot of factories. Most citizens in Die Boererepubliek have good jobs, earn a fair amount of money and pay an income tax of around 30% (Lower for the poor). So overall the economy of Die Boererepubliek is strong and large, and is one of the richest countries in Africa.

Goals: Secure more land in Africa, get colonies in upper Africa and in the Pacific.

History: Around a hundred years after the plague most of the whites in Africa had fled to less populated area's in South Africa to avoid the plague and race related violence. Disease, chaos and conflict had riddled the landscape the African landscape for a near century, but while the Africans were embroiled in conflict the white refugees had constructed beautiful cities, monuments and towns in parts of former parts of South Africa. The Boers soon became the dominant culture in the large groups of white refugees and created Die Boererepubliek.

But soon the Africans became aware of Die Boererepubliek, a huge war ensued between Die Boererepubliek and African tribes who were attempting to rid Africa of whites once and for all, blacks that had lived peacefully Die Boererepubliek were exterminated, and half-casts also got killed. Die Boererepubliek finally beat the African tribes and sued for peace, the Africans agreed and left Die Boererepubliek alone.

After the huge war Die Boererepubliek sent boats up to France and Poland and brought immigrants back to Die Boererepubliek. During the next fifty years Die Boererepubliek focused on increasing industry, agricultural production, rebuilding cities and towns. Once these goals has been accomplished Die Boererepubliek began to increase it's military and naval strength, and did so adequately.

Now most citizens of Die Boererepubliek live in a happy society, with clean streets, adequate sewage systems and safe cities. Most citizens own a musket or other types of weaponry, and have pledged to defend Die Boererepubliek to the death if it was to ever come under threat.

RP Sample: My previous account was Luremurg, I participated in many RP's including the following:
Zombie Apocalypse RP Reboot
The Walking Dead RP
I'm also currently involved in a rp called the years after: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=320140

429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

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Lol, military can go down yet again, but I shall accept ye, trusting that you will make said changes

[Armstdern]

Nation Name: Die Boererepubliek (The Boer Republic)

Symbols:

(Image)

(Image)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbvlKUwJuBU

Location:
62nd nation renamed.

Homeland Population: People in the Die Boererepubliek mainly includes white's from former African countries, although it has a large European immigrant population. So I'm going to say around 7 million.

Imperial Population: No colonies. Yet.

Capital City: Durban (Resembles a European City now)

Government Info

Government Type: Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy

Brief Explanation of Government: The Emperor or Empress of Die Boererepubliek, normally referred to as the Keiser of Die Boererepubliek or the Kaiserin of Die Boererepubliek, under the obedience god he/she has the right to govern, if he/she disobeys god's will the people have the right to cut the Keiser/Kaiserin down. The Keiser/Kaiserin is more of a president, as the Emperor/Empress is elected by the people from members of the royal family. The Keiser/Kaiserin doesn't have the right to dictate the will of the people, or the will of the parliament.

Ideology: Right to bare arms, Individual freedoms, Monarchist, Conservative, Liberal, Africa for Whites

Leader's: Keiser Claudio Vandergroot, Chancellor Aaltje Ostrander.

Population Info

Brief Description of your people: The people of Die Boererepubliek are mainly white Africans (Dutch), French Immigrants and Polish Immigrants. Afrikaans and English are the two main languages in Die Boererepubliek, although some second generation immigrants speak French and Polish. The majority of citizens in Die Boererepubliek are in the middle class, although some are poor in the Eastern regions.

Religion: Protestants and Catholics.

Ethnicity:
Boers: 2,000,000
Other White Africans: 4,000,000
French Immigrants (Most have been in Die Boererepubliek for three generations.): 1,000,000
Polish Immigrants (Most have been in Die Boererepubliek for three generations.): 1,000,000


Main/Accepted Culture(s): Boer, Dutch, Other White African sub-cultures, Polish and French

Other Cultures: African

Military Info

Army: The army is split into two branches, the Bushvegter's (Professional army) and the Mensevegter's (Mainly well trained militia's). Bushvegter's are mainly used for offensive action, and the Mensevegter's are normally used for defensive action. The Bushvegter's are elite, patriotic and professional troops with a high level of training, and the Mensevegter's are normally militia's with muskets with a low level of training. There is no age limit to join the Mensevegter's and the right age to join the Bushvegter's is 15-45. There are also cavarly divisions, the horses used are normally horse x zebra hybrids.
Active Bushvegter's: 90,000
Reserve Bushvegter's: 30,000
Active Mensevegter's: 40,000
Reserve Mensevegter's: 20,000
Active Calvary: 2,000
Reserve Calvary: 1,000
Navy: The Nederlandsevloot of Die Boererepubliek is a medium sized navy, it contains sturdy destroyers, cruisers and other types of wooden ships. There are around 30,000 marines in the Navy, and another 10,000 in the naval reserves. Die Boererepubliek is currently working to strengthen it's navy.

Other Info

Brief Description of your Economy: Die Boererepubliek's economy is mainly based on mining, industrial products, along with agricultural production. There are many farm's in Die Boererepubliek and a lot of factories. Most citizens in Die Boererepubliek have good jobs, earn a fair amount of money and pay an income tax of around 30% (Lower for the poor). So overall the economy of Die Boererepubliek is strong and large, and is one of the richest countries in Africa.

Goals: Secure more land in Africa, get colonies in upper Africa and in the Pacific.

History: Around a hundred years after the plague most of the whites in Africa had fled to less populated area's in South Africa to avoid the plague and race related violence. Disease, chaos and conflict had riddled the landscape the African landscape for a near century, but while the Africans were embroiled in conflict the white refugees had constructed beautiful cities, monuments and towns in parts of former parts of South Africa. The Boers soon became the dominant culture in the large groups of white refugees and created Die Boererepubliek.

But soon the Africans became aware of Die Boererepubliek, a huge war ensued between Die Boererepubliek and African tribes who were attempting to rid Africa of whites once and for all, blacks that had lived peacefully Die Boererepubliek were exterminated, and half-casts also got killed. Die Boererepubliek finally beat the African tribes and sued for peace, the Africans agreed and left Die Boererepubliek alone.

After the huge war Die Boererepubliek sent boats up to France and Poland and brought immigrants back to Die Boererepubliek. During the next fifty years Die Boererepubliek focused on increasing industry, agricultural production, rebuilding cities and towns. Once these goals has been accomplished Die Boererepubliek began to increase it's military and naval strength, and did so adequately.

Now most citizens of Die Boererepubliek live in a happy society, with clean streets, adequate sewage systems and safe cities. Most citizens own a musket or other types of weaponry, and have pledged to defend Die Boererepubliek to the death if it was to ever come under threat.

RP Sample: My previous account was Luremurg, I participated in many RP's including the following:
Zombie Apocalypse RP Reboot
The Walking Dead RP
I'm also currently involved in a rp called the years after: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=320140

429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

FIXED

Lol, military can go down yet again, but I shall accept ye, trusting that you will make said changes

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[Paketo]

Can the Frontier have some sort of proto rifles for skirmishing and sniping?

@ both Ye and Paketo. I do not mind some early rifles that are few and far between for people to have, but I do not want to see mass production of them yet. Else I will have to send the asteroids . My main concern is if people get one they will try to justify somehow their nation immediatly beginning mass production of them, which I don't want to see yet.

Mass production *laugh* the best mass production we could have at this time is a rifle a week. all weapons are made by local blacksmiths and that means no standard caliber of round so mass production is really infeasible. the rifles would really be personal weapons of irregulars that they take with them