Our World [OOC] [1800 AHRP]

[Alleniana]

The app is meant to prove that effort and thought were put into it by the applier, and that the applier has the appropriate knowledge and creativity to RP the state, in addition to providing information for realistic interaction and RPing. Copy-and-paste is not preferable, and depending on how Lowlands looks at it, possibly to be denied. Please do rewrite it in your own words.

[Masimino]

The app is meant to prove that effort and thought were put into it by the applier, and that the applier has the appropriate knowledge and creativity to RP the state, in addition to providing information for realistic interaction and RPing. Copy-and-paste is not preferable, and depending on how Lowlands looks at it, possibly to be denied. Please do rewrite it in your own words.

Alright, I'll start to edit it

[Alleniana]

The app is meant to prove that effort and thought were put into it by the applier, and that the applier has the appropriate knowledge and creativity to RP the state, in addition to providing information for realistic interaction and RPing. Copy-and-paste is not preferable, and depending on how Lowlands looks at it, possibly to be denied. Please do rewrite it in your own words.

Alright, I'll start to edit it

Thanks.

[Masimino]

Nation Name: Oda Clan
Symbols:
Homeland Population: 1,500,000
Imperial Population: Oda doesn't have any colonies
Location/Claims: 53
Capital City: Owari, Kiyosu Castle

Government Info
Government Type: Feudalism
Brief Explanation of Government: Daimyo is head of the land given by the Shogun. Daimyo is equivalent to "Lord" and the Daimyo is (supposedly) under the rule of the Shogun whilst the Shogun is under Emperor.
Ideology: Imperialism.
Leader/s: Oda Nobunaga

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: The Japanese as a whole is proud. Japan is home to many warriors who have roots to the old settlers of Japan. We are currently divided, each Daimyo wanting the power of the Shogun and possibly Emperor. We are brave, strong and steadfast, loyalty and honor is in our morals. we will do anything to get what we desire, peace or war. Also we like to see foreign lands and people, to mingle with them as long as they do not cause unrest in the lands. We also love the arts in general, painting, singing or entertainment as past time when doing nothing. We commit suicide rather than be captured by the Enemy.
Religion: Buddhism with some Christianity.
Ethnicity: Japanese.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Japanese
Other Cultures: Christianity (Other parts of Japan)

Military Info
Army: The army is divided from "Ashigaru" and "Samurai". Ashigaru were peasant farmers minimally trained to fight while the Samurai are the elite of the armies, although low in numbers. The Number of Ashigaru's number 5,000 while the Samurai number 1,500. Coat of Arms
Navy: The Navy numbers from 100 to 150, divided from armed Merchant Ships which make the bulk of the fleet while the actual warships number is 25. Coat of Arms is the same with the Army

6 Ō-atakebune
12 Heavy Bune
7 Nihon Maru

25 Medium Bune
50 Bow Kobaya
25 Sengoku Bune

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: To Modernize the economy, Roads have been built to lessen time travel and increase trade. Castle Towns were established as a way to move from an Agricultural to a Manufacture and Service based Economy. International trade is present and overall it's a free market system, prohibiting monopolies and opened guilds and associations.
Goals: Unify Japan, Expand into foreign lands, get more advance technology from foreigners, make Japan Great.
History: Origins[edit]
Claiming descent from the Taira Clan who established themselves as the rulers of Owari Province and took the name of Oda as a sign of it's lordship and to cement it's claim, they built Inuyama Castle while still maintaining it's vassalage to the Shiba Clan. That is, until after the death of a Shiba Head, where they denounced it's successor and ruled in favor of it's younger brother, but this was a ploy as to regain their independence and started to divide their lord's lands among themselves, namely the Oda and Asakura Clans.

It was turmoil for the Oda as rulers were weak and others were corrupt, the oda were divided into several branches of family members until the rise of Oda Nobuhide, who was the father of Nobunaga and Nobuyuki. In his rule he fought the Imagawa Clan, until being assassinated by Hanzo Hattori, an assassin of the Tokugawa, vassal of the Imagawa. Nobuyuki then took control as he was the older son of Nobuhide. He challenged Imagawa to a battle, Imagawa responded by sending over 30,000 soldiers and another 5,000 soldiers from their vassal the Tokugawa to fight Nobuyuki's 7,500 soldiers, which were primarily composed of Ashigaru's or peasant fighters. Many considered fleeing, others considered a frontal assault, but all would rather want to die in battle than be captured.

Nobunaga then hatched a plan. He sent a small force of 1,000 Ashigaru's led by Hashiba Hideyoshi to kill the forces in the left flank, using the woods for cover. It was successful and Nobunaga led the entire force to the woods, leaving dummies and flags as bait while the Imagawa were celebrating their supposedly easy victory. By sheer luck, it rained, which further made their chances at making an ambush successful. Nobunaga was the first to charge followed by Nobuyuki, Hideyoshi, Katsuie and Toshiie. Utter Chaos then ensured in the Imagawa Camp. The Tokugawa, seeing the ambush and not wanting to be killed or captured, change sides. The full force of the Oda Clan was felt as Imagawa was cut down by Nobunaga himself. Nobuyki and Nobunaga celebrated their victory, starting the Oda's brothers path to unity their.
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=316539
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

[Masimino]

How do i delete the old one? it doesn't have the delete option in it.

[Alleniana]

How do i delete the old one? it doesn't have the delete option in it.

You can't delete a post unless it's the most recent post in a thread.

[Masimino]

How do i delete the old one? it doesn't have the delete option in it.

You can't delete a post unless it's the most recent post in a thread.

I hope he ignores it. Haven't been in a good RP since before a long time (Great GRAMMAR)

[Arumdaum]

How do i delete the old one? it doesn't have the delete option in it.

You could just delete everything you wrote through an edit.

[Liecthenbourg]

"Become my friend."

Ah xD

I was thinking of doing Catholic Otomo, just to please Lietch
[/i]

Mhm, mhm.
Just remember, everyone's favourite nation in GoOF.

[Liecthenbourg]

[box]Generic Info
Nation Name: The Achaemenid Dynasty, sometimes referred to as "The Kingdom of the Sacred Fires"

Achaemenid can't even be used as a dynasty name. It's not a single syllable, it can't be pronounced, and China wouldn't just steal the Latinized name of a Hellenized form of an Iranian king's name.

Capital City: Nanking.

do you just enjoy using old-timey names and spellings

Ideology: Liberalism,

wait what

Pan-Asianism,

Pan-Asianism isn't a concept that should even exist here, considering that the European concepts of Europe and Asia (which is basically just all of the continent that isn't Europe) weren't introduced yet.

An Asian identity was created only through a common struggle against the advances of European imperialism.

Asians are too different from one another to indigenously form a common Asian identity.

Imperialism

does this even count as an ideology

Leader/s: Emperor Ushtavaity XXIV.

...

Why does the Emperor have a Parsi name no one in China could pronounce? Why has China copied European customs of the rulers all having the same name?

The people, from common farmer to Head of State, despise slavery in all its forms

Slavery was never really prevalent in China. During the Han dynasty, slaves comprised less than a percent of the population.

and will generally have a fish and rice heavy diet - meat generally being avoided unless in times of crisis or special occasions.

Pork is big in China. Even Buddhism didn't stop China from avoiding meat.

These individuals are not as well equipped as their European Counterparts, but they make up for that fact with sheer numbers

Oh my god, you're just delving into stereotypes with the sheer numbers one.

Common weaponry includes bows, crossbows, halberds and such.

Wow, I'm surprised that this country even lasted this long, despite it being more militarily backward than the Song dynasty.

Another unique aspect of the Chinese military, is their devastating weapon that spews forth fire; the Pen Huo Qi. This devasting device is generally attached to armies and forces as well as being located upon ships and walls to deter any attacker.

THAT WAS USED ALMOST A THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE THIS RP HOW DID THIS COUNTRY JUST NOT DIE OFF COMPLETELY

CHINA IRL MADE SO MANY MORE ADVANCED WEAPONS IN THE 900 YEARS BETWEEN THE INVENTION OF THIS WEAPON AND THE CURRENT DATE

DID YOU KNOW CHINA INVENTED MUSKETS, LAND MINES, AND CANNONS?

[spoiler]

Did you know that's a Chinese gun from the Qing dynasty?

DID YOU KNOW CHINA HAD ADVANCED CANNON WEAPONRY THAT REGULARLY DEFEATED EUROPEANS IN BATTLE AS LATE AS THE 1600S?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tunmen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino%E2%80 ... _conflicts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Russi ... _conflicts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Liaoluo_Bay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Zeelandia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Xicaowan

Modernisation is a thought being discussed, but no plans have truly taken hold.

People don't go "Hey look, we know that we're behind technology, this is a good thing! Let's resist catching up to others just for the sake of being behind!"

China thought of itself as the most advanced country in the world at this time IRL.

but progress is being made with purchases and remaking of ships in the European fashion.

just copying european styles doesn't make it any better

dozen unique ships which follow the Korean Turtle boat idea. Hulls of plated metal, but their firepower comes from several cannon and Pen Huo Qi upon their decks and within the ship itself. The ships are stationed throughout the major ports of the Empire, Nanking, Shanghai, etc.

Please stop using the word "unique" ugh. The way you're using it isn't any better than the word "exotic."

Also, cannons are way more powerful than pen huo qi.

become a power.

China has always been a power from its unification.

a famed land of endless sands

wow lol

These men, Zoroastrian Missionaries, impressed the Qin Emperor, Qin Er Shi, and he allowed them to spread their faith throughout his lands.

RL doesn't work like a game of civ

By this time, many of the civilians of "China"

China has never called itself China.

China is a word in English.

During the Mongol invasions, the Tang Dynasty

wot

managed to successfully repel the invasion forces of the Mongols at the battle of Nanking, where Pen Huo Qis were used from atop walls and battlements to rain fire down upon the Mongols as they attempted to take the city via force. This impressive feat was then met by the complete and total removal of the Mongols from the area now encompassed by the Kingdom of the Sacred Fire. After this event the Tang Dynasty renamed themselves to the Achaemenids, in honour of the Zoroastrian Faith.

pen huo qi aren't even that great

also achaemenid, again, is an english word from a latinized form of a greek form of a persian name, and i'm assuming that the cyrus' great great grandpops isn't a big figure in zoroastrianism

In the 1700s, the Kingdom of the Sacred Fire came into contact with the Europeans, mainly the British,

China had contact with Europeans long before that.

(Though they did possess an insane numerical advantage)

cool

and began a programme where the British received a privileged trade agreement with the Dynasty, in exchange for modern firearms and artillery - alongside with officers to instruct.

IRL, China just imported European weapons. It did this a lot during the 1700s.

Privileged trading agreements are for semi-colonized nations. The British don't even have anything the Chinese would want. China was also more economically advanced than Europe for much of the 18th century, and its massive trade surplus with European nations (25% - 50% of Spanish silver ended up in China) due to the high demand for Chinese products probably means that you don't need to do much to get European weapons.

[/spoiler]
Alright, I apologise (China's never been my strong suit and I thought it was alright.)
If need be, I'll edit it later on today or just switch nations, I don't know - I'm busy at this moment.

[Caltarania]

Reservation:
Location: 43
Nation Name: The Thor Dynasty

Reservation:
Location: 54
Nation Name: The Takeda Clan of Odin

Reservation:
Location: 46
Nation Name: The Freya Confederacy


many hues

[The New Lowlands]

calt no you can't multi-reserve

gtfo

[Caltarania]

calt no you can't multi-reserve

gtfo

twas joke

why you think i removed the tag numbers?

no but seriously i have no idea what to RP here

[The New Lowlands]

calt no you can't multi-reserve

gtfo

twas joke

why you think i removed the tag numbers?

no but seriously i have no idea what to RP here

be britain then you limey

[Caltarania]

twas joke

why you think i removed the tag numbers?

no but seriously i have no idea what to RP here

be britain then you limey

eh

1) I thought Val was Blighty?
2) I'd only want to be Britain if I could be Druidic
3) eh, borders look fooking weird in Ireland.

Hmm... maybe Ethiopia. Or a Norse Daimyo. I really don't know.

[Arumdaum]

be britain then you limey

eh

1) I thought Val was Blighty?
2) I'd only want to be Britain if I could be Druidic
3) eh, borders look fooking weird in Ireland.

Hmm... maybe Ethiopia. Or a Norse Daimyo. I really don't know.

norse daimyo doesn't make any sense

we might as well have prince alfred becoming an adherent to confucianism

[The New Lowlands]

eh

1) I thought Val was Blighty?
2) I'd only want to be Britain if I could be Druidic
3) eh, borders look fooking weird in Ireland.

Hmm... maybe Ethiopia. Or a Norse Daimyo. I really don't know.

norse daimyo doesn't make any sense

vikings sailed north of russia, pillaged japan, 10/10 best history

[Caltarania]

norse daimyo doesn't make any sense

vikings sailed north of russia, pillaged japan, 10/10 best history

better history;

vikings happened. 20/10 best history would history again.

[Liecthenbourg]

vikings sailed north of russia, pillaged japan, 10/10 best history

better history;

vikings happened. 20/10 best history would history again.

has history gone too far??????

[The New Lowlands]

better history;

vikings happened. 20/10 best history would history again.

has history gone too far??????

history has not gone far enough
spain is still not kebab :c

[Liecthenbourg]

has history gone too far??????

history has not gone far enough
spain is still not kebab :c

remove kebab, add -insertzoroastrianbaseddishhere-

[The New Lowlands]

DID YOU KNOW CHINA HAD ADVANCED CANNON WEAPONRY THAT REGULARLY DEFEATED EUROPEANS IN BATTLE AS LATE AS THE 1600S?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tunmen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino%E2%80 ... _conflicts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Russi ... _conflicts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Liaoluo_Bay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Zeelandia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Xicaowan

lol too bad these are all 100+ years prior to the current situation in a different strategic situation and that almost all of these examples actually do feature the use of numerical superiority

[Arumdaum]

DID YOU KNOW CHINA HAD ADVANCED CANNON WEAPONRY THAT REGULARLY DEFEATED EUROPEANS IN BATTLE AS LATE AS THE 1600S?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tunmen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino%E2%80 ... _conflicts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Russi ... _conflicts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Liaoluo_Bay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Zeelandia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Xicaowan

lol too bad these are all 100+ years prior to the current situation in a different strategic situation and that almost all of these examples actually do feature the use of numerical superiority

except, you know, that isn't the point, or the part i'm responding to

[The New Lowlands]

lol too bad these are all 100+ years prior to the current situation in a different strategic situation and that almost all of these examples actually do feature the use of numerical superiority

except, you know, that isn't the point, or the part i'm responding to

it is nonetheless relevant to the discussion of liechtenbourg's app, especially when you could have simply made it clearer by saying "um i think you would probably have matchlock weaponry" or something like that

[Alleniana]

history has not gone far enough
spain is still not kebab :c

remove kebab, add -insertzoroastrianbaseddishhere-

real or fake? 40 kebab removed in one day by Serb man! find out how to remove kebab like this man today

Ah xD

I was thinking of doing Catholic Otomo, just to please Lietch
[/i]

Mhm, mhm.
Just remember, everyone's favourite nation in GoOF.

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