Our World [OOC] [1800 AHRP]

[Caltarania]

Ah xD

I was thinking of doing Catholic Otomo, just to please Lietch

Alternatively, I could somehow justify Vikings... hmm...

-begins scheming on how to justify Japanese Vikings-

no

I mean fuck you.



No but seriously I am now committed to the idea of a Norse daimyo.

Ah xD

I was thinking of doing Catholic Otomo, just to please Lietch

Alternatively, I could somehow justify Vikings... hmm...

-begins scheming on how to justify Japanese Vikings-

well the suebi religion is Balderism which combines norse and Christianity. Thor = Jesus

so you can use that as the norse culture spreads from the religion into japan

Heretics!

I was thinking that some Viking was like 'so that silk road thing' and just said 'fuck it ima off to Cathay' but kinda misses.

Ah xD

I was thinking of doing Catholic Orthodox Otomo, just to please Lietch Svet

Alternatively, I could somehow justify Vikings... hmm...

-begins scheming on how to justify Japanese Vikings-

yus

nei

Ah xD

I was thinking of doing Catholic Otomo, just to please Lietch

Alternatively, I could somehow justify Vikings... hmm...

-begins scheming on how to justify Japanese Vikings-

CATHOLIC JAPAN

IYA IYA IYA IYA IYA IYA

not my friend just barbarian threat

FOR THOR, ODIN AND THE DROWNED GOD RÁN!

[Arumdaum]

also i am of such confused

qin shi huang becomes zoroastrian and then no confucianism

how is korea/japan/vietnam confucian

what about buddhism

it says tang but there are ming/manchus (or mongols?) on map

til manchus aren't (related to) the same thing(s) as mongols

42 - Qing China*

China is divided between Vietnamese and Mongol conquerors and the relatively small successors to the Ming

:-(

[The New Lowlands]

"successors to the ming" in the sense of "lol ming u ded, we da emprah now"

[Arumdaum]

"successors to the ming" in the sense of "lol ming u ded, we da emprah now"

no i mean it says "mongol conquerors" but on the map there are no mongols just qing manchus

[The New Lowlands]

"successors to the ming" in the sense of "lol ming u ded, we da emprah now"

no i mean it says "mongol conquerors" but on the map there are no mongols just qing manchus

as I said before

til manchus and mongols were not the same thing

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Btw, 72 should be the Turkandu Khanate


And for your imperial aspirations Calt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQM5kVedEZA

[Arumdaum]

no i mean it says "mongol conquerors" but on the map there are no mongols just qing manchus

as I said before

til manchus and mongols were not the same thing

???

are they same thing here

[The New Lowlands]

as I said before

til manchus and mongols were not the same thing

???

are they same thing here

no, til = today i learned

[Western Imperial Union]

Generic Info
Nation Name: United Kingdoms of Bavaria and Bohemia
Symbols: (ex. Flag, Coat of Arms, National Anthem, personifications, etc.)

[img=National flag]http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101216231840/althistory/images/c/c1/Bohemia_Flag_(Nat._1848).png[/img][img=Coat of arms]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Wappen_Königreich_Böhmen.png[/img]

Homeland Population: (population of everyone considered a citizen)45,488,000
Imperial Population: (include population of colonies)0
Location/Claims: (include number)7
Capital City: Munich

Government Info
Government Type: (ex. The USA is a Presidential Constitutional Federal Republic)Electorate Principalities
Brief Explanation of Government: (explain all the complex/unique stuff that can't be described in the type section) Each principality elects their own prince a King rules the whole nation..
Ideology: (Refer to this) Nationalsim, Imperialism
Leader/s: (Head of State, Head of Government, etc.) King Franz II

Population Info
Brief Description of your people:Hard working and Industrious, the nation is divided with a center of industry based in the north and agriculture in the south and east.
Religion:Orthodox22% Luthern13% Catholic45% Other Christians12% Muslim2% Other6%
Ethnicity:Hungarians20% Saxons12% Hessians8% Austrians24% Other Germans25% Czech4% Slav2% other5%
Main/Accepted Culture(s): (ex. IRL-UK would be English, Scottish; only cultures that are dominant and the gov't favors)German, Bohemian, Czech
Other Cultures: (ex. IRL-UK would have been Irish, Welsh, etc ; cultures that aren't accepted by the gov't/people)Slavic, Muslim, Hungarian

Military Info
Army: (branches, number of troops, quality of army, incl. stationing, etc,)Two branches of the army Simply Guard and Action guard is the reserve and Action is the active force. There are 200,000 troops in the Action army and another 254,880 in the guard while the action army is much better trained than guard both are still rather well trained. They are not the best in the world but they are very well disciplined.
Navy: (branches, number of troops, quality of navy, incl. stationing, etc,)Four branches, Guard, Action, Trade, and Landing. trade protects and expands trade, Landing is connected to the army and allows for army forces to be deployed via naval units.
Less than thirty thousand sailors combined. The ships are excellent for carrying large amounts of troops and cargo but they suffer greatly when considering firepower.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: While a robust trading nation The main source of income is intra nation trade.
Goals: Expansion of power, and influence
History: Since it's inception Kingdom has been plagued by ambition. It has seen its borders not as walls limiting its power, but gateways to a bright future. Through generations of conquest and diplomacy Bohemia and Bavaria conquered much of their current territory. As the years wore on territory swayed back and forth, differing cultures assaulted each other's territories to try to achieve a more powerful standing in their kingdom. As war became the norm again in Europe many men were happy to be sent on crusade to allow for conquest of many Islamic nations. However as multiple waves were sent to the holy land a strange thing happened, some began to adopt the native customs as their own. Their once brilliant fervor slowly gave way to curiosity and eventually convergence. While most were found and killed many still returned home to their nations with new wives and families taken from the Middle East. This started several religious wars that gave rise to a new Christian movement as well. People who had grown tired of the apparent corruption in the Catholic Church grew very angry and began worshipping god a different way. For a long while these people were persecuted just as well as the Muslim converts and Islamic peoples who had been brought back with the crusaders. As time wore on more and more blood was shed in the name of god until eventually many nobles also grew tired of the catholic war on the very people it swore to aid. By 1700 a relative peace had returned to the region as fewer people wanted to fight for the beliefs they held. In time everything once again returned to normal. By 1750 a war broke out between Bohemia and Bavaria which included several smaller nationalities that slowly were assimilated during the war. A treaty was signed in 1771 ending the war. However thanks to the forced movement of peoples the cultures of the two nations were now irreparably intermixed. In 1798 the Unity Accord was signed which officially formed the United Kingdoms of Bavaria and Bohemia after the wedding of Catherine and Franz I. Today their heir Franz II rules after they abdicated the throne.
RP Sample: (required) The World reborn RP[url=link]http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=316410&sid=9e56b353b72b8a9e5de9a1816d2e9a9a[/url], A legendary war RP[url=link]http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=316980&sid=9e56b353b72b8a9e5de9a1816d2e9a9a&start=25[/url], and Europa 1444[url=link]http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=316591[/url]
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

My numbers come from http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/population/germany.htm I used a map from the time frame to figure what places fell into the area then simply added and subtract three million for the wars it would take to form the empire.

Edited

[Paketo]

Homeland Population: 6,000,000
Imperial Population: 37,000,000
reduce more or good

[Waztaskio]

I GOT FRANCE.

[Arumdaum]

???

are they same thing here

no, til = today i learned

ohhhhhh

shit

til til

[The New Lowlands]

as I've said before, lutheranism doesn't exist, nor presumably does "other christians"

the concept for your religious state otherwise- Islam being brought back by crusaders- is pretty ridiculous especially since you are bordered to the south by a gargantuan christian state.

wtf is the last "other" under religions for, anyway?

economy section is unrealistic, since Bavaria-Bohemia is predominately inland and has several other sources of income. Besides that, it needs expansion.

history still needs fleshing out - wtf were bavaria and bohemia going to war over? they're both HRE members, which admittedly didn't stop other countries within the Empire going to war, but they'd probably need a good reason. You mention Bavaria's "inception" but nothing about how or why it happened.

[Sveltlana]

I GOT FRANCE.

Borodino awaits!

[Paketo]

Generic Info
Nation Name: Kingdom of Suebi
Symbols: The wolf, a Yellow flag with a black wolf head in the middle
Homeland Population: 6,000,000
Imperial Population: 18,000,000
Location/Claims: 5
Capital City: Riechar (Porto)

Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: the King and royal family holds almost all power but a council of nobles can overturn the Kings actions as defined by the treaty of Porto in 1434
Ideology: national conservatism, Free trade
Leader/s: King Jakob XII

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: The Suebi are Germanic in origin meaning that most citizens have blond or black hair and blue or brown eyes. The colonies however hold a much greater diversity of the people
Religion: Balderism
Ethnicity: Suebi (german)
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Suebi, Roman, German
Other Cultures: Pacific Islander, Several Native American tribes, Visogoth

Military Info
Army: the army is divided between colonial and homeland with no segregation between cultures. You will find Pacific Islanders serving right alongside Suebi. The homeland army has about 60,000 in peace time while the Americas colonial army and pacific colonial army have 75,000 men.
Navy: the navy is a highly capable force and it needs to be as to protect the vast trade of the kingdom. A majority of ships are based in the pacific guarding the profitable spice trade garnering many of the about 50,000 men employed in the navy during peace.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: the economy is mainly centered around trade coming from the spice of the far east colonies as it is the most profitable. The homeland however has shifted to being a center of refined goods as craftsmen turn out fine products made from material from overseas. In the colonies, most people are employed in agriculture growing mostly food crops most about 45% are cash crops and the number is projected to rise
Goals: Continued friendship with the Romans to the south, expansion in the pacific, annexation of Aragon
History: In the year 756, the Suebi in Galicia threw off there Visigoth oppressors and declared the independence of the kingdom of Suebi. The Great War if independence lasted two years and would surely have been taken advantage of by the Muslims if they had not been dealing with internal issues. King Balder was declared the king of the new state as he was a noble who came to lead the rebellion for the Suebi.

He would institute the dramatic overhauling of the catholic faith and institution of the old Suebi dialect of german instead of latin. Balder would create the new Christian sect that would be known as Balderism. It constituted that Jesus was a conduit between heaven and earth to reconnect the people to the gods such as Odin, Loki, Thor and Balder tracing back to the old religion of the Suebi. This of course was considered heretical by the rest of the Christian world leading to the denouncement of the pope by Balder and creation of the High Pontifex of Santiago using the term for the romans high priest . The catholic populace of the kingdom was suprising welcoming of the new sect and many people converted.

The Suebi in land not within the kingdom at that point were ripe with rebellion as they wanted to rejoin their fellow Suebi. This would lead to a many rebellions stretching the Visigoths to their limit. The Suebi kingdom took advantage and after a series of wars, had taken all of norther Spain up to Navarra. It was then that the Suebi turned towards the south and the roman state that occupied southern Spain. They were ready to battle but the Romans were surprisingly welcoming to the Suebi leading to the league of Hispania, a alliance between the Suebi and Romans.

Around 1460, islands far to the east of Suebi were found (Azores) and a expedition financed by the king sailed to claim those islands for the kingdom. Another expedition financed by the king would come by about 1480 when the islands of Cape verde were discovered by the traders of Suebi. In 1492, with word of a land far to east found by a Italian, a Suebi expedition was organized leaving in 1493 and finding the island of Trinidad. A colony would be set up there 10 years later in 1503.

Between 1503-1800, Suebi participated in the rush for the new world snatching up the territories of Mexico, Brazil, panama, Belize and Honduras. They would lose their original colony of Trinidad to war along with Mexico and Brazil in two independence declarations but the kingdom never faltered. The kingdom largely stayed out of European affairs during this time choosing to focus solely on colonization and trade. Once the feasibility of a colonies in the Far East came about, the kingdom also took advantage, colonizing the island of Timor and more of the Far East for the profitable spice.
RP Sample: Tooo lazy
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

good pop or reduce more?

[The NAR]

TAGGING. Great Britain.

[Caltarania]

TAGGING. Great Britain.

Uhhh....

* = NPC AFAIK (if there's no name and no *, that means it's probably reserved)

1 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland

[Arumdaum]

Generic Info
Nation Name: Kingdom of Suebi
Symbols: The wolf, a Yellow flag with a black wolf head in the middle
Homeland Population: 6,000,000
Imperial Population: 35,000,000
Location/Claims: 5
Capital City: Riechar (Porto)

Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: the King and royal family holds almost all power but a council of nobles can overturn the Kings actions as defined by the treaty of Porto in 1434
Ideology: national conservatism, Free trade
Leader/s: King Jakob XII

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: The Suebi are Germanic in origin meaning that most citizens have blond or black hair and blue or brown eyes. The colonies however hold a much greater diversity of the people
Religion: Balderism
Ethnicity: Suebi (german)
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Suebi, Roman, German
Other Cultures: Pacific Islander, Several Native American tribes, Visogoth

Military Info
Army: the army is divided between colonial and homeland with no segregation between cultures. You will find Pacific Islanders serving right alongside Suebi. The homeland army has about 60,000 in peace time while the Americas colonial army and pacific colonial army have 75,000 men.
Navy: the navy is a highly capable force and it needs to be as to protect the vast trade of the kingdom. A majority of ships are based in the pacific guarding the profitable spice trade garnering many of the about 50,000 men employed in the navy during peace.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: the economy is mainly centered around trade coming from the spice of the far east colonies as it is the most profitable. The homeland however has shifted to being a center of refined goods as craftsmen turn out fine products made from material from overseas. In the colonies, most people are employed in agriculture growing mostly food crops most about 45% are cash crops and the number is projected to rise
Goals: Continued friendship with the Romans to the south, expansion in the pacific, annexation of Aragon
History: In the year 756, the Suebi in Galicia threw off there Visigoth oppressors and declared the independence of the kingdom of Suebi. The Great War if independence lasted two years and would surely have been taken advantage of by the Muslims if they had not been dealing with internal issues. King Balder was declared the king of the new state as he was a noble who came to lead the rebellion for the Suebi.

He would institute the dramatic overhauling of the catholic faith and institution of the old Suebi dialect of german instead of latin. Balder would create the new Christian sect that would be known as Balderism. It constituted that Jesus was a conduit between heaven and earth to reconnect the people to the gods such as Odin, Loki, Thor and Balder tracing back to the old religion of the Suebi. This of course was considered heretical by the rest of the Christian world leading to the denouncement of the pope by Balder and creation of the High Pontifex of Santiago using the term for the romans high priest . The catholic populace of the kingdom was suprising welcoming of the new sect and many people converted.

The Suebi in land not within the kingdom at that point were ripe with rebellion as they wanted to rejoin their fellow Suebi. This would lead to a many rebellions stretching the Visigoths to their limit. The Suebi kingdom took advantage and after a series of wars, had taken all of norther Spain up to Navarra. It was then that the Suebi turned towards the south and the roman state that occupied southern Spain. They were ready to battle but the Romans were surprisingly welcoming to the Suebi leading to the league of Hispania, a alliance between the Suebi and Romans.

Around 1460, islands far to the east of Suebi were found (Azores) and a expedition financed by the king sailed to claim those islands for the kingdom. Another expedition financed by the king would come by about 1480 when the islands of Cape verde were discovered by the traders of Suebi. In 1492, with word of a land far to east found by a Italian, a Suebi expedition was organized leaving in 1493 and finding the island of Trinidad. A colony would be set up there 10 years later in 1503.

Between 1503-1800, Suebi participated in the rush for the new world snatching up the territories of Mexico, Brazil, panama, Belize and Honduras. They would lose their original colony of Trinidad to war along with Mexico and Brazil in two independence declarations but the kingdom never faltered. The kingdom largely stayed out of European affairs during this time choosing to focus solely on colonization and trade. Once the feasibility of a colonies in the Far East came about, the kingdom also took advantage, colonizing the island of Timor and more of the Far East for the profitable spice.
RP Sample: Tooo lazy
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

good pop or reduce more?

I don't think Borneo, Central America, Bali, and Flores would have 35 million people...

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Today I found out that Svet likes Tchaikovsky :')
I am so happy right now.

[Caltarania]

good pop or reduce more?

I don't think Borneo, Central America, Bali, and Flores would have 35 million people...

Yeah... especially considering my highest estimate for the entirety of Eretz HaQodesh was somewhere around 3 mil.

[Arumdaum]

Today I found out that Svet likes Tchaikovsky :')
I am so happy right now.

He hasn't been born yet though...

[Paketo]

good pop or reduce more?

I don't think Borneo, Central America, Bali, and Flores would have 35 million people...

whoops, i meant to put 15 mil there and imperial is homeland + colonial so it would be 29 mil in colonies with 35

[Western Imperial Union]

as I've said before, lutheranism doesn't exist, nor presumably does "other christians"

the concept for your religious state otherwise- Islam being brought back by crusaders- is pretty ridiculous especially since you are bordered to the south by a gargantuan christian state.

wtf is the last "other" under religions for, anyway?

economy section is unrealistic, since Bavaria-Bohemia is predominately inland and has several other sources of income. Besides that, it needs expansion.

history still needs fleshing out - wtf were bavaria and bohemia going to war over? they're both HRE members, which admittedly didn't stop other countries within the Empire going to war, but they'd probably need a good reason. You mention Bavaria's "inception" but nothing about how or why it happened.

I apologize you hadn't said there was no creation of Protestantism, the other would be non included in the other religions, in history there has never been a nation that was only the two, three or even five main religions, other would include everything too small to be fully represented. The numbers there are actually based on historical fact. And I assumed that it was obvious that being the two major southern HRE members they were fighting for both land and to achieve dominance within the Empire. The Islam being brought back by crusaders did actually happen in the shape of crusaders taking slaves and in some cases being converted during capture. However quite obviously few converts would survive after returning to Europe and I stated that they were attacked. Now with this explanation is my app still unacceptable?

[Sveltlana]

For the Byzantine Empire I got about 20 million, both Homeland and Imperial.

Seems fair?

Today I found out that Svet likes Tchaikovsky :')
I am so happy right now.

OMG I HAVE AS MANY HORMONES AS AN AMERICAN TEEN GIRL MARRY ME PLS

Today I found out that Svet likes Tchaikovsky :')
I am so happy right now.

He hasn't been born yet though...

shaddap

[The NAR]

I can't be the UK?

Wish I could be my home country... America....