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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:11 am

Bujahla wrote:Anyhow, I'mma be off for a bit doing some work I need to get done. I work from 4-9 tonight so don't expect to see me on.

Adios compadres. Also, lets make sure we don't take this to the point of like, no cooperation because we are too invested. That goes for me too btw.


Honestly, you have a point.

This should be about writing a good story anyway.
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Postby Louisianan Confederation » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:12 am

Actually scratch my Peru reservation.
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:15 am

Auroya wrote:
Bujahla wrote:Anyhow, I'mma be off for a bit doing some work I need to get done. I work from 4-9 tonight so don't expect to see me on.

Adios compadres. Also, lets make sure we don't take this to the point of like, no cooperation because we are too invested. That goes for me too btw.


Honestly, you have a point.

This should be about writing a good story anyway.


Mhmm. While it'll be competitive and lots of stuff going on, I care mostly about the story.
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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:16 am

Obviously, this should be Mitteleuropa's flag.

...Dreams of a European Federation? Nah...
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:21 am

WAIT A SECOND!

Is Spain communist or is Franco winning the civil war? Is there even a civil war (cause there should be)?
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Postby Aldelxane » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:23 am

Auroya, would you be ok with me included a past deal between the USGA and Maghreb essentially trading Maghrebi oil for aid in building up the Maghrebi military, as well as humanitarian deals later on? (I'll talk to Jonathian about deals with the German Empire when he gets online, but since you are online I figured I'd ask you)
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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:25 am

Aldelxane wrote:Auroya, would you be ok with me included a past deal between the USGA and Maghreb essentially trading Maghrebi oil for aid in building up the Maghrebi military, as well as humanitarian deals later on? (I'll talk to Jonathian about deals with the German Empire when he gets online, but since you are online I figured I'd ask you)


Sure.




Also!

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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:28 am

Auroya wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Auroya, would you be ok with me included a past deal between the USGA and Maghreb essentially trading Maghrebi oil for aid in building up the Maghrebi military, as well as humanitarian deals later on? (I'll talk to Jonathian about deals with the German Empire when he gets online, but since you are online I figured I'd ask you)


Sure.




Also!

Image


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I'm thinking US flag may say the same as IRL. Idk. I need to find a good symbol to put in the cantor.
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:43 am

Auroya wrote:Monroe Doctrine? Sorry, what?

I'm quite afraid Britain-Japan and Mitteleuropa didn't hear that.


Gah, stop referring to us as if we're on the same side for anything other than to crush the Commies.

The New Lowlands wrote:
Auroya wrote:Monroe Doctrine? Sorry, what?

I'm quite afraid Britain-Japan and Mitteleuropa didn't hear that.

inb4 manhattan project


inb4 Rising Sun Project

The New Lowlands wrote:
Auroya wrote:
dude

you don't think we're on that case ourselves?

russia + murrica = faster research than failnazis


Japan = laser weaponry

-fast nodding-

(seriously though laser weapons and mechs and shit would be like my wet dream for Japan but y'know fucking realism and shit)

Mefpan wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:inb4 manhattan project

Too bad all those Krauts that did wonders for it didn't run off to America this time around, eh?

And yurop has its own uranium, somewhere on the Silesian-Bohemian border, I believe.


Not to mention that the Manhattan project was a join project between the US, Canada, Britain and the other Allies. It'd be much limited with only one of those.

Bujahla wrote:To clarify, all the germans who came to the US were in Operation Paperclip. That was after the bomb you guys.

*not sorry about double post*


Not all.

Einstein.

The New Lowlands wrote:
Auroya wrote:
Yeah, but there were actually a fair few who fled in the early 30s because of the Nazis, as I understand it. Einstein was among them and he's the reason the atom bomb exists.

einstein's direct contribution to the actual bomb project consisted primarily of signing a letter to the President, sorry


I mean, that's still pretty important.

Bujahla wrote:
Mefpan wrote:Oh please, using modified Amerika-Bombers to drop paratroopers onto American soil to let our submersible troopships land under the eyes of the American navy where we then sink them in port will go swimmingly, especially when we do it in '44.

A quick strike then will ensure that America is too preoccupied with trying not to be anschlussed by the Reich to invest much into developing nooks.

Trust me, I've seen it work in vidya gems.


No but think of all the logistics involved with trying to invade America. Literally the only possible nation would be the UK through Canada, but even that'd be difficult. So what if you do a landing and take New York (which would be hard enough). Now you can't expand your borders as you don't have enough troops to supply your movement. Unless if you launched a huge ass army, which would probably get involved in a naval battle in the Atlantic. You land, capture a city, then get blockaded and seiged by the USSA forces before your reinforcements arrive only to be met with a mega-fucking war machine that has the world's highest industrial output.


...Right.

-nabs Hawaii-

-totally doesn't invade the Galapagos-

-nabs Panama-

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The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
ehhh, the Anglo-Japenese alliance prolly would go to war with both of our sides, so naval might is unquestionably theirs. Air power will go to the central powers, with land forces prolly going to the Comitern. So everyone is sadnessed

"naval might"

don't forget, the british empire is collapsing


Except that this time, Japan generally does have naval might. The IJN is competing directly with the Royal Navy for dominance over the seas IIRC, in terms of size.

The New Lowlands wrote:guide to not losing until 1945

1) don't piss off america
2) don't invade russia


I found a better guide.

1) Don't be fascist.

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Rephesus wrote:
There was no Great Depression, the colonies continued to contribute, and that also means those millions of Indians are usable. So the UK is still definitely a global power. Add Japan and you have a superbloc.

There was a Great Depression, how else do you think Murrica went Communist? :p


We already went over this. The GD affected America a hella lot more than Europe ITTL because the loans that the USA gave Britain never happened and ergo Europe was less reliant on the American economy as a whole.
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:47 am

Caltarania wrote:
There was a Great Depression, how else do you think Murrica went Communist? :p


We already went over this. The GD affected America a hella lot more than Europe ITTL because the loans that the USA gave Britain never happened and ergo Europe was less reliant on the American economy as a whole.


Lol what? The US was already communist by the time the GD would have happened. Communist countries are hardly affected by depressions (see Russia) due to command economies. I'm not exactly sure what you're saying.
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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:48 am

Bujahla wrote:
Caltarania wrote:

We already went over this. The GD affected America a hella lot more than Europe ITTL because the loans that the USA gave Britain never happened and ergo Europe was less reliant on the American economy as a whole.


Lol what? The US was already communist by the time the GD would have happened. Communist countries are hardly affected by depressions (see Russia) due to command economies. I'm not exactly sure what you're saying.


He's presenting a scenario as to why it would have affected Europe a lot less than IRL had it happened. But it didn't, I suppose.
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:48 am

Here's a communist USA emblem.

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:48 am

Bujahla wrote:
Caltarania wrote:

We already went over this. The GD affected America a hella lot more than Europe ITTL because the loans that the USA gave Britain never happened and ergo Europe was less reliant on the American economy as a whole.


Lol what? The US was already communist by the time the GD would have happened. Communist countries are hardly affected by depressions (see Russia) due to command economies. I'm not exactly sure what you're saying.


I can't remember exactly what it was that we decided upon, but it was before you apped for the USSA so it could be redundant now -shrug-
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:50 am

Auroya wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Lol what? The US was already communist by the time the GD would have happened. Communist countries are hardly affected by depressions (see Russia) due to command economies. I'm not exactly sure what you're saying.


He's presenting a scenario as to why it would have affected Europe a lot less than IRL had it happened. But it didn't, I suppose.


And the US's booming economy wasn't cause of loans to Britain, it was because of the Young Plan. Even if America stayed neutral and the Allies won, that would have happened and the US would have had a good economy. It wasn't because of Britain, Germany caused it. And the Young Plan is what caused Germany's economy to collapse in 1929 after stock market crash. With both of them crashing, the rest of Europe did as well. Sure, British loans and all that, but Germany was the biggest and regardless of loans to the British, the European economy would have been hit hard HAD THERE BEEN A GREAT DEPRESSION, but there wasn't.
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Postby North-East Ohio » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:52 am

State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: Albania
Native Name of State: Republika Shqiptare
[Complete] Name of State: Albanian Republic
Flag/Banner/Seal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Republic#mediaviewer/File:Flag_of_Albania_%281926-1928%29.svg
Head of State: Ahmet Zogu
Territory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Albania#mediaviewer/File:Principality_of_Albania_%281914%29.svg
Claimed Territory: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Ethnic_albania.jpg
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc: de facto protectorate of USGA
Alignment or Alliances: Aligned to the USGA, strong relations with the Ottoman Empire

Government
Type of Government Officially a Parliamentary Republic. Truly operates as a Unitary Dictatorship
Head of Government Ahmet Zogu
Ideologies: Conservativism, anti-Communist, expansionist, minor Islamism.

Economy
History:
Main Exports: Raw materials, metal ores, leather
Main Imports: Grain, sugar, textiles
Other information:

Population and people
Population: Approx. 1,003,097
Main National Culture: Albanians
Accepted Cultures: Turks, Egyptians
Cultures: Greeks, Serbs, Romani, Bulgarians/Macedonians
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated Greeks, Serbs
National Language(s): Albanian
Recognized Languages: N/A
Minority Languages: Greek, Serbian, Bulgarian
Main religion(s): Official: Sunni Islam
Minority Religions: Greek Orthodox, Albanian Catholic

Military
Ground Forces:
Roughly 15,000 ground troops, with about 26,000 in reserve. Strength of the armed forces is, negligible. Poor training, outdated weaponry. President Zogu is working on upgrading the army with potential help from the Ottomans.
Naval Forces:
N/A
Air Forces:
N/A

Other
History: After gaining independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1912, Albania found itself surrounded by enemies who wished to conquer it. Early in the War, Greece, Italy, Serbia, and Montenegro invaded Albania, but were eventually pushed out by Austria-Hungary who established an occupation zone in the region. Once the situation in the Balkans had been pacified by the Central Powers, and once Italy was no longer a threat to the existence of the Albanian State, an independent kingdom was declared in Tirana. The new Kingdom was still considered an Austro-Hungarian puppet state. In 1920, while the USGA was dealing with a Hungarian uprising, a coup toppled the kingdom and replaced it with a Republic, headed by Ahmet Zogu who promised the people freedom, democracy, and a Greater Albanian homeland. The coup was widely supported in much of Albania, with the notable exception of the South which has a great Greek presence. Fears of Albanian assimilation, the Greeks tried to declare independence, but were defeated by the Albanian army. In 1923, following the assassination of the Ottoman Sultan, Zogu began to increase his power in the government, putting restrictions on dissident parties and opposition groups. Not long after, most political parties were banned, excluding Zogu's own party. And not long after that, Zogu was declared President for life. Now there is talk of him being crowned as King of the Albanians. Meanwhile, Zogu has continued to preach a Greater Albanian homeland and has moved his nation closer to the Ottoman Empire, in the hopes of having a strong ally. There are great fears that the USGA, Bulgaria, and Italy have eyes on Albanian land which is leading to an industrialization campaign in Albania. Zogu hopes that he will be able to get the Ottomans, and perhaps Germany to help it in this and so it may protect itself.
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Anti: conservatism, anarchy, libertarianism, theocracy, Republican party (1980-onwards), hippies, affirmative action.
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:14 am

State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: Rhodesia, sometimes South Africa or the Boer Republic
Native Name of State: Verenigde Sosialistiese state van Rhodesië (VSSR)
[Complete] Name of State: United Socialist States of Rhodesia
Flag/Banner/Seal:
Image

Image

Head of State: President Wilhelm de Klerker
Territory: South Africa
Claimed Territory: Swaziland, Lesotho, ZImbabwe, Botswana
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc:
Alignment or Alliances:Rhodesia is aligned but not allied with the USSA (United Socialist States of America) because of their similar ideologies . But generally does not involve itself in foreign affairs to much.

Government
Type of Government Presidential republic with a strong President and a weaker Parliament.
Head of Government President Wilhelm de Klerker
Ideologies: Socialism

Economy
Main Exports: Gold, Diamonds, Iron, Steel, Agricultural Products
Main Imports: Vehicles, Broadcasting Equipment, Timber
Other information: The economy is a mix between planned and free market, though is more planned than free. The government commands key industries such as Iron, Steel, Gold, Silver and Diamonds and Agriculture which the government has a monopoly on through state-owned companies through which it holds the highest share on. Small companies are allowed to flourish, such as shoemakers, textiles etc. though still regulated by the government. All farmland is owned by the government and farmers take cheap leases in exchange for 60% of the produce. Farms are generally profitable and agriculture quotas are met.

Population and people
Population: 25,550, 600
Main National Culture: Boer/Afrikaans
Accepted Cultures: English, Black African
Cultures: N/A
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated There is no scapegoated culture.
National Language(s): Afrikaans
Recognized Languages: Various aboriginal languages, English
Minority Languages: Hindi, English
Main religion(s): Protestantism
Minority Religions: Hinduism, Native African religions, Catholicism, Sikh

Military
Ground Forces:
Active: 200,000
Reserve: 20,000
Description: The Army of Rhodesia is high in numbers. They have modern weapons, imported from America and made in the nation's burgeoning new industrial factories. They are well, but not excellently trained, the soldiers are very patriotic and lead by brilliant generals. The command structure revolves around the President, who is also Commander-in-Chief. There are several Armies which are commanded by a Marshal, who are answerable only to the President. Armies are 20,000 men each. And are subdivided into 4 Legions of 5,000 men each. Which are then divided into Battalions of 1,000 each, followed by Squadron's of 100.
Naval Forces:
Ships: 15
Submarines: 3
Description: The Navy of Rhodesia is not the best in the world. Most of the ships are old WWI-era dreadnoughts and Ironclads. The sailors are generally well-trained and adept seamen. The Navy is only ever going to be used to defend the coast, not large-scale sea battles. The navy is divided into 3 Squadrons of 5 ships and 1 submarine each. The President commands the navy but delegates most of his power to the Admiral who in turns delegates it to the Commanders of each squadron.
Air Forces:
Planes: 100
Description: The Aerial Forces of Rhodesia is powerful. They do not have very many reconnaissance planes. But they have excellent bomber planes and fighter planes. Like the Rhodes F1 plane, a bomber designed and produced in the new and growing industrial base. Planes are into squadrons based on their types of plane and classification. The President commands the air force but delegates power to the Air Marshall who in turn delegates power to the individual Squadron Commander.

Other
History: Everything is the same as in real life until 1914, except that the country was named Rhodesia instead of South Africa, because I prefer that name and that it was granted independence in 1901 and a Republican constitution was proclaimed in 1914. Remaining neutral in the war. The discovery of iron and steel reserves, creating an economic boom and switching the economic focus from agriculture to industry proved to be key to Rhodesia. By selling iron and steel to both the Central Powers and the Allies they greatly increased the wealth of the country. Using this new wealth the government began to invest in the Five Year Plan, which specified for a new economic model, by reforming the business model and loosening restrictions to increase investment the plan, the plan helped industrialize Rhodesia creating a vibrant industrial scene. Foreign business' started employing Rhodesian workers and by outsourcing to Rhodesia.

Many people moved away from traditional farming into the now profitable industrial business. But as restrictions loosened the economic situations deteriorated. By 1926 the government had stopped making money on the oil business, because they had completely privatized it. In the government under President Paul Ernst Schamultk realized and the right-wing People's Front acknowledged that their model had failed. But they still refused to let go of power. But they still began to slowly tighten restrictions.

In 1927, three high-ranking members of the military, Lt. Gen Jan Kruger, Lt. Col. Wilhelm de Klerker and Air Marshal Abraham Hans Oranje established the Socialist Committee for Venezuela, inspired by the USSA's ideology. On March 1st, 1927 they lead the army and various civil factions in a bloodless coup. Paul Ernst Schamultk and his government fled the country for Botswana, where the British government offered him asylum.

The Committee quickly remodeled the nation, tightening restrictions on the economy and imposing a Socialist constitution, giving equal rights to Blacks and remodeling the nation. Soon it became obvious that Wilhelm de Klerker was the dominant member. When the military junta was due to expire on the 1st of December they determined that de Klerker would take control as the First President of Socialist Rhodesia. He would rule as Provisional President until elections could be conducted, which he won. And has ruled ever since. And has reformed Rhodesia into a mixed economy, strengthened democracy and is improving the military. His government has also created a strong agricultural base and promoted industrial development.

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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:15 am

Aden Protectorate wrote:
State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: Rhodesia, sometimes South Africa or the Boer Republic
Native Name of State: Verenigde Sosialistiese state van Rhodesië (VSSR)
[Complete] Name of State: United Socialist States of Rhodesia
Flag/Banner/Seal:


Head of State: President Wilhelm de Klerker
Territory: South Africa
Claimed Territory: Swaziland, Lesotho, ZImbabwe, Botswana
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc:
Alignment or Alliances:Rhodesia is aligned but not allied with the USSA (United Socialist States of America) because of their similar ideologies . But generally does not involve itself in foreign affairs to much.

Government
Type of Government Presidential republic with a strong President and a weaker Parliament.
Head of Government President Wilhelm de Klerker
Ideologies: Socialism

Economy
Main Exports: Gold, Diamonds, Iron, Steel, Agricultural Products
Main Imports: Vehicles, Broadcasting Equipment, Timber
Other information: The economy is a mix between planned and free market, though is more planned than free. The government commands key industries such as Iron, Steel, Gold, Silver and Diamonds and Agriculture which the government has a monopoly on through state-owned companies through which it holds the highest share on. Small companies are allowed to flourish, such as shoemakers, textiles etc. though still regulated by the government. All farmland is owned by the government and farmers take cheap leases in exchange for 60% of the produce. Farms are generally profitable and agriculture quotas are met.

Population and people
Population: 25,550, 600
Main National Culture: Boer/Afrikaans
Accepted Cultures: English, Black African
Cultures: N/A
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated There is no scapegoated culture.
National Language(s): Afrikaans
Recognized Languages: Various aboriginal languages, English
Minority Languages: Hindi, English
Main religion(s): Protestantism
Minority Religions: Hinduism, Native African religions, Catholicism, Sikh

Military
Ground Forces:
Active: 200,000
Reserve: 20,000
Description: The Army of Rhodesia is high in numbers. They have modern weapons, imported from America and made in the nation's burgeoning new industrial factories. They are well, but not excellently trained, the soldiers are very patriotic and lead by brilliant generals. The command structure revolves around the President, who is also Commander-in-Chief. There are several Armies which are commanded by a Marshal, who are answerable only to the President. Armies are 20,000 men each. And are subdivided into 4 Legions of 5,000 men each. Which are then divided into Battalions of 1,000 each, followed by Squadron's of 100.
Naval Forces:
Ships: 15
Submarines: 3
Description: The Navy of Rhodesia is not the best in the world. Most of the ships are old WWI-era dreadnoughts and Ironclads. The sailors are generally well-trained and adept seamen. The Navy is only ever going to be used to defend the coast, not large-scale sea battles. The navy is divided into 3 Squadrons of 5 ships and 1 submarine each. The President commands the navy but delegates most of his power to the Admiral who in turns delegates it to the Commanders of each squadron.
Air Forces:
Planes: 100
Description: The Aerial Forces of Rhodesia is powerful. They do not have very many reconnaissance planes. But they have excellent bomber planes and fighter planes. Like the Rhodes F1 plane, a bomber designed and produced in the new and growing industrial base. Planes are into squadrons based on their types of plane and classification. The President commands the air force but delegates power to the Air Marshall who in turn delegates power to the individual Squadron Commander.

Other
History: Everything is the same as in real life until 1914, except that the country was named Rhodesia instead of South Africa, because I prefer that name and that it was granted independence in 1901 and a Republican constitution was proclaimed in 1914. Remaining neutral in the war. The discovery of iron and steel reserves, creating an economic boom and switching the economic focus from agriculture to industry proved to be key to Rhodesia. By selling iron and steel to both the Central Powers and the Allies they greatly increased the wealth of the country. Using this new wealth the government began to invest in the Five Year Plan, which specified for a new economic model, by reforming the business model and loosening restrictions to increase investment the plan, the plan helped industrialize Rhodesia creating a vibrant industrial scene. Foreign business' started employing Rhodesian workers and by outsourcing to Rhodesia.

Many people moved away from traditional farming into the now profitable industrial business. But as restrictions loosened the economic situations deteriorated. By 1926 the government had stopped making money on the oil business, because they had completely privatized it. In the government under President Paul Ernst Schamultk realized and the right-wing People's Front acknowledged that their model had failed. But they still refused to let go of power. But they still began to slowly tighten restrictions.

In 1927, three high-ranking members of the military, Lt. Gen Jan Kruger, Lt. Col. Wilhelm de Klerker and Air Marshal Abraham Hans Oranje established the Socialist Committee for Venezuela, inspired by the USSA's ideology. On March 1st, 1927 they lead the army and various civil factions in a bloodless coup. Paul Ernst Schamultk and his government fled the country for Botswana, where the British government offered him asylum.

The Committee quickly remodeled the nation, tightening restrictions on the economy and imposing a Socialist constitution, giving equal rights to Blacks and remodeling the nation. Soon it became obvious that Wilhelm de Klerker was the dominant member. When the military junta was due to expire on the 1st of December they determined that de Klerker would take control as the First President of Socialist Rhodesia. He would rule as Provisional President until elections could be conducted, which he won. And has ruled ever since. And has reformed Rhodesia into a mixed economy, strengthened democracy and is improving the military. His government has also created a strong agricultural base and promoted industrial development.

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Bruh. What happened to socialist Venezuela. Bruh.
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:17 am

South Africa =/= Rhodesia.

Rhodesia is Zimbabwe IIRC.
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Postby Segmentia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:18 am

Traitors! D:
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:20 am

Caltarania wrote:South Africa =/= Rhodesia.

Rhodesia is Zimbabwe IIRC.

I know. I changed the name because I absolutely detest the name South Africa.

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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:21 am

Aden Protectorate wrote:
Caltarania wrote:South Africa =/= Rhodesia.

Rhodesia is Zimbabwe IIRC.

I know. I changed the name because I absolutely detest the name South Africa.


What's wrong with the name itself?
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:21 am

Segmentia wrote:Traitors! D:


It's just becoming so easy for the UK to hate the USSA, lol.
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:22 am

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State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: Rhodesia, sometimes South Africa or the Boer Republic
Native Name of State: Verenigde Sosialistiese state van Rhodesië (VSSR)
[Complete] Name of State: United Socialist States of Rhodesia
Flag/Banner/Seal:


Head of State: President Wilhelm de Klerker
Territory: South Africa
Claimed Territory: Swaziland, Lesotho, ZImbabwe, Botswana
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc:
Alignment or Alliances:Rhodesia is aligned but not allied with the USSA (United Socialist States of America) because of their similar ideologies . But generally does not involve itself in foreign affairs to much.

Government
Type of Government Presidential republic with a strong President and a weaker Parliament.
Head of Government President Wilhelm de Klerker
Ideologies: Socialism

Economy
Main Exports: Gold, Diamonds, Iron, Steel, Agricultural Products
Main Imports: Vehicles, Broadcasting Equipment, Timber
Other information: The economy is a mix between planned and free market, though is more planned than free. The government commands key industries such as Iron, Steel, Gold, Silver and Diamonds and Agriculture which the government has a monopoly on through state-owned companies through which it holds the highest share on. Small companies are allowed to flourish, such as shoemakers, textiles etc. though still regulated by the government. All farmland is owned by the government and farmers take cheap leases in exchange for 60% of the produce. Farms are generally profitable and agriculture quotas are met.

Population and people
Population: 25,550, 600
Main National Culture: Boer/Afrikaans
Accepted Cultures: English, Black African
Cultures: N/A
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated There is no scapegoated culture.
National Language(s): Afrikaans
Recognized Languages: Various aboriginal languages, English
Minority Languages: Hindi, English
Main religion(s): Protestantism
Minority Religions: Hinduism, Native African religions, Catholicism, Sikh

Military
Ground Forces:
Active: 200,000
Reserve: 20,000
Description: The Army of Rhodesia is high in numbers. They have modern weapons, imported from America and made in the nation's burgeoning new industrial factories. They are well, but not excellently trained, the soldiers are very patriotic and lead by brilliant generals. The command structure revolves around the President, who is also Commander-in-Chief. There are several Armies which are commanded by a Marshal, who are answerable only to the President. Armies are 20,000 men each. And are subdivided into 4 Legions of 5,000 men each. Which are then divided into Battalions of 1,000 each, followed by Squadron's of 100.
Naval Forces:
Ships: 15
Submarines: 3
Description: The Navy of Rhodesia is not the best in the world. Most of the ships are old WWI-era dreadnoughts and Ironclads. The sailors are generally well-trained and adept seamen. The Navy is only ever going to be used to defend the coast, not large-scale sea battles. The navy is divided into 3 Squadrons of 5 ships and 1 submarine each. The President commands the navy but delegates most of his power to the Admiral who in turns delegates it to the Commanders of each squadron.
Air Forces:
Planes: 100
Description: The Aerial Forces of Rhodesia is powerful. They do not have very many reconnaissance planes. But they have excellent bomber planes and fighter planes. Like the Rhodes F1 plane, a bomber designed and produced in the new and growing industrial base. Planes are into squadrons based on their types of plane and classification. The President commands the air force but delegates power to the Air Marshall who in turn delegates power to the individual Squadron Commander.

Other
History: Everything is the same as in real life until 1914, except that the country was named Rhodesia instead of South Africa, because I prefer that name and that it was granted independence in 1901 and a Republican constitution was proclaimed in 1914. Remaining neutral in the war. The discovery of iron and steel reserves, creating an economic boom and switching the economic focus from agriculture to industry proved to be key to Rhodesia. By selling iron and steel to both the Central Powers and the Allies they greatly increased the wealth of the country. Using this new wealth the government began to invest in the Five Year Plan, which specified for a new economic model, by reforming the business model and loosening restrictions to increase investment the plan, the plan helped industrialize Rhodesia creating a vibrant industrial scene. Foreign business' started employing Rhodesian workers and by outsourcing to Rhodesia.

Many people moved away from traditional farming into the now profitable industrial business. But as restrictions loosened the economic situations deteriorated. By 1926 the government had stopped making money on the oil business, because they had completely privatized it. In the government under President Paul Ernst Schamultk realized and the right-wing People's Front acknowledged that their model had failed. But they still refused to let go of power. But they still began to slowly tighten restrictions.

In 1927, three high-ranking members of the military, Lt. Gen Jan Kruger, Lt. Col. Wilhelm de Klerker and Air Marshal Abraham Hans Oranje established the Socialist Committee for Venezuela, inspired by the USSA's ideology. On March 1st, 1927 they lead the army and various civil factions in a bloodless coup. Paul Ernst Schamultk and his government fled the country for Botswana, where the British government offered him asylum.

The Committee quickly remodeled the nation, tightening restrictions on the economy and imposing a Socialist constitution, giving equal rights to Blacks and remodeling the nation. Soon it became obvious that Wilhelm de Klerker was the dominant member. When the military junta was due to expire on the 1st of December they determined that de Klerker would take control as the First President of Socialist Rhodesia. He would rule as Provisional President until elections could be conducted, which he won. And has ruled ever since. And has reformed Rhodesia into a mixed economy, strengthened democracy and is improving the military. His government has also created a strong agricultural base and promoted industrial development.

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Bruh. What happened to socialist Venezuela. Bruh.


I just like this idea better.

Auroya wrote:
Aden Protectorate wrote:I know. I changed the name because I absolutely detest the name South Africa.


What's wrong with the name itself?


I just don't like it. I

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:23 am

Aden Protectorate wrote:
Caltarania wrote:South Africa =/= Rhodesia.

Rhodesia is Zimbabwe IIRC.

I know. I changed the name because I absolutely detest the name South Africa.


But it's incorrect.

It's like having the country be France but calling it Germany.

You could call it Kaap?
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Postby Segmentia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:23 am

Bujahla wrote:
Segmentia wrote:Traitors! D:


It's just becoming so easy for the UK to hate the USSA, lol.


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